FA Statement

[davew]

I think we will get a 39 points deduction!

[Ruislip White]

Lots on sky sports this morning citing Bruno Fernandes, and suggesting FFC will bring that up.  Also lots of criticism about how the ref and FA that day, set the tone by not punishing it (if Bruno got a ban players would be likely to be more respectful of our officials). 

2 wrongs don't make a right.  I don't really care about Bruno, Toney etc as they are not the ones who let us down on Sunday.

One good thing though that could come out of our response is that the clear inconsistencies will be highlighted and add pressure on standards of refereeing and consistency of VAR use.

[RoyTund]

Absurd. If a man nudging another is considered violent then the referees association and FA have been a sensitive and woke touch and need to examine themselves before they fall apart internally and bring the game down.

Absurd that Bruno Fernandes gets nothing. Definitely feels like we're being made an example of.

Absurd also that the refs word is considered absolute in this instance. How on earth are they planning on proving what Marco or mitro said.

It's about time a ref link gets brought into football so these conversations can be heard.

It was Mitrovic's actions after receiving the red card that is the big issue, I think some of us must put away our bias thoughts and look at his actions, they were both aggressive and confrontational, and then look what it took to get him off the pitch. As for what Marco said, well none of us know, so can't really say one way or the other.

Then if it's for actions after the red are Wolves being charged for what happened on Saturday after the 4th goal?

[Surlyc]

Given that they included Silva in the statement, I think he will get a (minimum) three or (probably) four match ban.

I think the media messaging is slowly changing and calming down. More and more people are bringing up Fernandes and saying that Mitrovic should have his ban doubled (to 6 games) rather than the rest of the season. Honestly if they do give Mitrovic a 10 match ban, I think we should open every interview with the fact that Suarez only got 8 games for being provably racist.

[toshes mate]

25% of posts on the thread about our own misconduct mention Toney.

Brentford fans must be laughing their heads off at us for crying out loud.

Are you obsessed with Brentford and Toney for crying out loud?

[EastEndWhite]

Given that they included Silva in the statement, I think he will get a (minimum) three or (probably) four match ban.

I think the media messaging is slowly changing and calming down. More and more people are bringing up Fernandes and saying that Mitrovic should have his ban doubled (to 6 games) rather than the rest of the season. Honestly if they do give Mitrovic a 10 match ban, I think we should open every interview with the fact that Suarez only got 8 games for being provably racist.

I won't be surprised if part of Silva's punishment includes a stadium ban

[alfie]

Absurd. If a man nudging another is considered violent then the referees association and FA have been a sensitive and woke touch and need to examine themselves before they fall apart internally and bring the game down.

Absurd that Bruno Fernandes gets nothing. Definitely feels like we're being made an example of.

Absurd also that the refs word is considered absolute in this instance. How on earth are they planning on proving what Marco or mitro said.

It's about time a ref link gets brought into football so these conversations can be heard.

It was Mitrovic's actions after receiving the red card that is the big issue, I think some of us must put away our bias thoughts and look at his actions, they were both aggressive and confrontational, and then look what it took to get him off the pitch. As for what Marco said, well none of us know, so can't really say one way or the other.

Then if it's for actions after the red are Wolves being charged for what happened on Saturday after the 4th goal?

Well I don't know what happened at Wolves, and I have no idea if they are being charged, so I can't comment.

[SerbianLad]

Absurd. If a man nudging another is considered violent then the referees association and FA have been a sensitive and woke touch and need to examine themselves before they fall apart internally and bring the game down.

Absurd that Bruno Fernandes gets nothing. Definitely feels like we're being made an example of.

Absurd also that the refs word is considered absolute in this instance. How on earth are they planning on proving what Marco or mitro said.

It's about time a ref link gets brought into football so these conversations can be heard.

It was Mitrovic's actions after receiving the red card that is the big issue, I think some of us must put away our bias thoughts and look at his actions, they were both aggressive and confrontational, and then look what it took to get him off the pitch. As for what Marco said, well none of us know, so can't really say one way or the other.

Even if all of that is 100% true, what set Mitro off was a red card. I've posted a picture of multiple Man U players handling the ref and none of them got a red. Bruno pushed the linesman recently and didn't get a red. If you say Mitro's red was fair then why didn't those United players get a 3 match retrospective ban for touching the ref if the Mitro red card was the right decision? Also is what Mitro did after getting a red card really worthy of a 7-8 match ban? That's what Suarez got for racism and it's incomparable.

[Fulham 442]

I am worried now I have to be honest, i thought it would be 5/6 games but no i think it could be ludicrously 10 or more. I think 6 is about right but I am worried more after the FA statement. If Silva gets 5 or 6 the what will they give Mitro.

I do hope the club ask for all the angles of all the incidents form the game, with those charges against Mitro and Silva all the angles so we can use specialists to see what was and wasn't said so we can use that as a defuse or not then. Find incidents during the match where united players swore and touched the ref and ask why nothing was done, find evidence from other games where any teams player has touched / sworn at an official and nothing has been done. Look at the non refers VAR incidents nd ask why these haven't been looked at and find similar incidents where they have been (especially with the ref from Sunday)m ask why a local ref was assigned to the game, especially one that was made to apologise to us earlier on the season.

We should release a statement saying we are aware of the charges and to a degree accept them but we will be defending ourselves in the strongest way and asking the following questions at the same time, the list the questions we will be asking.

What we d was wrong we all know that but this smacks of throwing the book at a smaller team whilst letting the bigger teams off as they do not want to spoil the league title run in or get a backlash from a better supported clubs fans

Agree completely with your post JW.

[Deeping_white]

Don't know how many of you are on Twitter but there have been a lot of videos surfacing of similar things happening within the last 12 months within the EFL and Premier League of players doing what Mitro did, and teams either escaping punishment entirely or at the worst case a player doing almost a carbon copy of what he did and getting a 4 game ban, and that also includes said player trying to fight the 4th official. If the FA try and scapegoat Mitro due to their own inaction, I'm fairly sure the club will appeal and appoint a legal team to go to town on the inconsistency of the FA and likely take it to CAS where the ban will get reduced to somewhere in the region of 4-6 games which is reflective of other punishments metered out. The other thing to consider is that if they ban him for more than 7 games, they'll basically be saying that grabbing the ref by his arm is worse than racism, since they dished out smaller bans to Terry and Suarez than what is being suggested. Not sure they'll want another racism scandal but we'll see.

[cookieg]

Lots on sky sports this morning citing Bruno Fernandes, and suggesting FFC will bring that up.  Also lots of criticism about how the ref and FA that day, set the tone by not punishing it (if Bruno got a ban players would be likely to be more respectful of our officials). 

2 wrongs don't make a right.  I don't really care about Bruno, Toney etc as they are not the ones who let us down on Sunday.

One good thing though that could come out of our response is that the clear inconsistencies will be highlighted and add pressure on standards of refereeing and consistency of VAR use.

I hope Mr Khan hires the best lawyers and rips the FA to pieces with the inconsistency they show. I get that Mitro and Silva will be punished but highlighting all the decisions being missed by the ref and lino on Sunday alone will be a good start to reforming a rotten organisation which favours the big clubs.

[boyboy]

 I would have thought the following statement would have been much more appropriate, "Mitrovic will be given an immediate 3 match ban as per expected for the straight red. Whilst he is serving this ban we will be scrutinising all video evidence along with interviews and studying the written reports of all concerned. We will then make the decision on whether and by how many additional games will be added to the 3 match ban already imposed."

[Ludlow Richard]

I would have thought the following statement would have been much more appropriate, "Mitrovic will be given an immediate 3 match ban as per expected for the straight red. Whilst he is serving this ban we will be scrutinising all video evidence along with interviews and studying the written reports of all concerned. We will then make the decision on whether and by how many additional games will be added to the 3 match ban already imposed."

Something like that would be much better than what the FA put out though I'd change your last sentence to read "We will then decide if an additional penalty is merited based on a thorough review of all the evidence"

[blingo]

I'll wait until Khan's lawyers speak.

[cookieg]

I think Fulham "need to own the narrative" as they say and get those apologies out now to show remorse etc. We will still be in the hands of the FA but at least we will be on the front foot.

[Oakeshott]

"I hope Mr Khan hires the best lawyers and rips the FA to pieces with the inconsistency they show."

It is inconceivable that we won't have good lawyers working on this. Given the fact that there is much evidence on video that what M did was far from that unusual, that there are manifest inconsistencies right down to cards for celebrations and that the FA's statement is palpably prejudicial as to outcome, a decent lawyer will have a field day at the FA's expense.

Hopefully some ex pros are now being paid to go through lots of videos picking out similar situations ready for our lawyers to deploy.

Unless Premiership clubs accept as part of being in the Premiership a curtailment of what would otherwise be their legal redress, if our lawyers aren't satisfied with the conduct of the hearing, this could go a lot further. We may, as one poster wrote, be a small club with relatively few supporters (obviously only true in respect of the likes of Man U) but fortunately we have as wealthy an owner as virtually any and this isn't a case where one party is well-funded and the other has to rely on legal aid!

[Black and White Town]

Where was their statement for this? Seems no different to me.

De Gea: puts fist on referee to prevent him walking away from the scene then proceeds to shout in his face
Fred: pulls the referee back (similar to Mitro but with less aggression) and shouts in his face

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[boyboy]

Maybe, just maybe, and I know this is clutching at straws, the referee said something to Mitro to cause him to act as he did. Or it could be that if the club were to issue an apology then that would be seen as an admission to the charge of failing to ensure its players conduct themselves in an orderly fashion. But I feel, as many others do here, we are in the brown stuff and will be stuffed.

[toshes mate]

Lots on sky sports this morning citing Bruno Fernandes, and suggesting FFC will bring that up.  Also lots of criticism about how the ref and FA that day, set the tone by not punishing it (if Bruno got a ban players would be likely to be more respectful of our officials). 

2 wrongs don't make a right.  I don't really care about Bruno, Toney etc as they are not the ones who let us down on Sunday.

One good thing though that could come out of our response is that the clear inconsistencies will be highlighted and add pressure on standards of refereeing and consistency of VAR use.

I absolutely agree that no amount of wrongs make a right but isn't that the problem?  When inconsistency abounds no matter if its a referee, an assistant or a VAR assessor, the results are absolutely obvious as clearly as when a police officer or demonstrator goes beyond what is acceptable.  Forget the partisan way we follow FFC and instead do as I do which is to assess consistency when I have no emotional affiliation to anyone and you will see the inconsistency rear up and show its ugly face.  Why?  I do not know but when you read articles about referees these days they are not about guys keeping order they are about an apparent religious sect, a cult, acting as if they are practising dark arts because they certainly cannot be bothered to do stuff properly.   No wonder so many referees give up before they even get started.   

[jarv]

I am sure Fulham will use the Fernandez incident and many others available for comparisons. Hoping they do and the ban will not be over the top. This ref  had a bad day at the office and lost control of a difficult situation.  The Fernandez bit will always stick in my throat. Add to that Mitro was angry about 2 penalty claims which must have affected him. (thats no excuse though).

The good news, we do have some quality to come in to replace both forwards. Solomon, BDR, TC, the 2 welsh lads.