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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2024

Started by jayffc, May 19, 2024, 11:52:16 AM

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General

Looks like we may have been having one of those days... If we don't get in a forward option this window, then it would be a failure in the inability to do so, and quite a glaring one. God knows why we haven't managed to get at least one in so far (ESR aside).. but we really should've by now.

https://twitter.com/SportsPeteO/status/1829560568589517048

Jules

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Quote from: hopper on August 30, 2024, 02:34:36 PMNo rumours for any goalkeepers - bit worried about Steven Benda being backup
I was about to post the same on this thread. If Leno gets injured we are shafted. Benda is a long way from the standard required.  I hope we get someone in with experience as back up, who can play the cup games as well. Benda can go out on loan. 

Is Benda any less a PL keeper than Rodak?

Rodak led us to two promotions from the Championship and has 22 caps for a decent NT.

Yes but not proven at PL level.
Rodak was OK but there's a reason he was sidelined on both occasions we were promoted, he wasn't quite at the level a mid table PL team required.

For sure Rodak is a good Championship keeper and has that experience that Benda lacks but he's two years
younger.

I would have been happy for Rodak to stay but he needed to move on and Benda looks his equal at least to me.
So Rodak and Benda have not failed at the PL level ?

I never used the word "failed", Rodak was a decent back up for occasional PL games, but wasn't getting any better.
Benda at 25 still has time to improve and get to a higher level than he is now.

If we are expecting mid table security with ambitions for higher we need a decent back up keeper, IMO Rodak was not that but Benda may be.


But he isn't anywhere near that. He is a poor signing. We need better.
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Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 30, 2024, 05:18:44 PMYes but not proven at PL level.
Rodak was OK but there's a reason he was sidelined on both occasions we were promoted, he wasn't quite at the level a mid table PL team required.

For sure Rodak is a good Championship keeper and has that experience that Benda lacks but he's two years
younger.

I would have been happy for Rodak to stay but he needed to move on and Benda looks his equal at least to me.
Agree that it was time for Rodak to go, but my point was that Rodak is at least more proven at a high level, i.e. international competitions and and was a high-level performer in the Championship. Rodak barely played in the PL, but I was much more comfortable with him being the stand-in goalkeeper in the PL and a starter in the cup than I am with Benda.

Totally agree with your first points but we won't know about Benda until he plays more.
Personally I thought his general game was marginally better on Tuesday than Rodaks last few performances.
I look at all aspects of the performance not just saves and for what its worth I have an FA level 2 GK certificate.

I thought his distribution was appalling but he seems a pretty good shot stopper. Sliced one or two long kicks and even his side volley was well off the mark. Plus he just does not look comfortable with the ball at his feet.
This is the premier league. We need a better back up than Benda, and if Leno gets injured, we will be in trouble.

McBrideOfFrankenstein

I don't know. If we don't get a winger I still really like our squad. Saving money for a potentially better player down the line isn't a terrible outcome imo.


SerbianLad

Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 30, 2024, 05:45:12 PMTotally agree with your first points but we won't know about Benda until he plays more.
Personally I thought his general game was marginally better on Tuesday than Rodaks last few performances.
I look at all aspects of the performance not just saves and for what its worth I have an FA level 2 GK certificate.
He was definitely better than he was in the Sevilla game. As you say, he might prove to be better than Rodak, but I also prefered Rodak because I knew what his level was. Benda could be better, but also he could be worse than Rodak. We'll see either way, hopefully Benda comes good.

JimmyConway

Quote from: General on August 30, 2024, 05:52:35 PMLooks like we may have been having one of those days... If we don't get in a forward option this window, then it would be a failure in the inability to do so, and quite a glaring one. God knows why we haven't managed to get at least one in so far (ESR aside).. but we really should've by now.

https://twitter.com/SportsPeteO/status/1829560568589517048
Would not surprise me if Willian done a U turn ?? Kids are back to school next week?

McBrideOfFrankenstein

It's odd to me that Lyon would sell Nuamah to us after buying him in July for £24 million, but I assume there is some good reason for it.


General

Any updates on the potential Reiss Nelson move?

Also, what would people think of a cheeky loan move for Raheem Sterling?

Out of the picture at Chelsea and unlikely to get a game, perhaps his ceiling is higher, but if Arsenal don't come in for him, then signing for us on loan for a season could be a lot better for Chelsea, Raheem and us if he played on loan with us.

Long shot, but worth a punt?


Slaphead in Qatar

Quote from: General on August 30, 2024, 06:02:24 PMAny updates on the potential Reiss Nelson move?

Also, what would people think of a cheeky loan move for Raheem Sterling?

Out of the picture at Chelsea and unlikely to get a game, perhaps his ceiling is higher, but if Arsenal don't come in for him, then signing for us on loan for a season could be a lot better for Chelsea, Raheem and us if he played on loan with us.

Long shot, but worth a punt?



Problem here is the wages

FFC1987

Quote from: General on August 30, 2024, 06:02:24 PMAny updates on the potential Reiss Nelson move?

Also, what would people think of a cheeky loan move for Raheem Sterling?

Out of the picture at Chelsea and unlikely to get a game, perhaps his ceiling is higher, but if Arsenal don't come in for him, then signing for us on loan for a season could be a lot better for Chelsea, Raheem and us if he played on loan with us.

Long shot, but worth a punt?



Not the first time someone's mentioned his name but same answer as before. £325k wages, even if Chelsea offer to pay half, he'd be our highest earner and wages I don't think we can justify. PLUS, and the biggest point, is paying 50% of his wages doesn't help Chelsea.


Sting of the North

Quote from: FFC1987 on August 30, 2024, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: General on August 30, 2024, 06:02:24 PMAny updates on the potential Reiss Nelson move?

Also, what would people think of a cheeky loan move for Raheem Sterling?

Out of the picture at Chelsea and unlikely to get a game, perhaps his ceiling is higher, but if Arsenal don't come in for him, then signing for us on loan for a season could be a lot better for Chelsea, Raheem and us if he played on loan with us.

Long shot, but worth a punt?



Not the first time someone's mentioned his name but same answer as before. £325k wages, even if Chelsea offer to pay half, he'd be our highest earner and wages I don't think we can justify. PLUS, and the biggest point, is paying 50% of his wages doesn't help Chelsea.

Right now they are paying 100% of his wages, so getting someone to pay half does indeed help them.

jayffc

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Quote from: General on August 30, 2024, 06:02:24 PMAny updates on the potential Reiss Nelson move?

Also, what would people think of a cheeky loan move for Raheem Sterling?

Out of the picture at Chelsea and unlikely to get a game, perhaps his ceiling is higher, but if Arsenal don't come in for him, then signing for us on loan for a season could be a lot better for Chelsea, Raheem and us if he played on loan with us.

Long shot, but worth a punt?



Reiss would only be available if Sterling signs for them which looks unlikely.

Cant imagine a world in which sterling comes to us unless a mega wage cut and or if chelse pay like 2 thirds of his wages...still  can't see him wanting to come to Fulham at this point of his career though.

The source above is Peter O'rourke again
Rumour there seems to be it's "stalled" because they were gonna replace the place with Forbs who wolves are signing....but this is presumably nonsense cos they're already signing Zaha

Lets wait till we hear from more credible sources

FFC1987

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Quote from: Sting of the North on August 30, 2024, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 30, 2024, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: General on August 30, 2024, 06:02:24 PMAny updates on the potential Reiss Nelson move?

Also, what would people think of a cheeky loan move for Raheem Sterling?

Out of the picture at Chelsea and unlikely to get a game, perhaps his ceiling is higher, but if Arsenal don't come in for him, then signing for us on loan for a season could be a lot better for Chelsea, Raheem and us if he played on loan with us.

Long shot, but worth a punt?



Not the first time someone's mentioned his name but same answer as before. £325k wages, even if Chelsea offer to pay half, he'd be our highest earner and wages I don't think we can justify. PLUS, and the biggest point, is paying 50% of his wages doesn't help Chelsea.

Right now they are paying 100% of his wages, so getting someone to pay half does indeed help them.

It helps them in the slightest. Thats still over £160k a week they'd be needing to pay which is higher than a lot of the players post their wage drops they lost through failure to hit CL last season. It's such a moot point and fanciful that Chelsea and Sterling are going to go for this in my opinion.



OZ-WHITE

Looks like any potential deal for Miguel Almiron is still ticking along , everything depends on Newcastle signing a striker or winger to replace him
If it wasn't for the medication I,d be chewing on your skin

jayffc

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Quote from: OZ-WHITE on August 30, 2024, 06:15:55 PMLooks like any potential deal for Miguel Almiron is still ticking along , everything depends on Newcastle signing a striker or winger to replace him

Think Almiron, if were even interested, will be a backup for us anyway should other deals fall through. Better than nothing, he has talent if we can refind his form in a new environment, lord knows we've done it before so many times , people writing him off before he's played for us should probably consider the amount of times us Fulham fans have done that saying the same things about other players (Duff, Zamora, Willian, Periera etc) only to be proven wildly wrong. This is the nature of the window though, dominos all over the gaff.


Sting of the North

Quote from: FFC1987 on August 30, 2024, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 30, 2024, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 30, 2024, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: General on August 30, 2024, 06:02:24 PMAny updates on the potential Reiss Nelson move?

Also, what would people think of a cheeky loan move for Raheem Sterling?

Out of the picture at Chelsea and unlikely to get a game, perhaps his ceiling is higher, but if Arsenal don't come in for him, then signing for us on loan for a season could be a lot better for Chelsea, Raheem and us if he played on loan with us.

Long shot, but worth a punt?



Not the first time someone's mentioned his name but same answer as before. £325k wages, even if Chelsea offer to pay half, he'd be our highest earner and wages I don't think we can justify. PLUS, and the biggest point, is paying 50% of his wages doesn't help Chelsea.

Right now they are paying 100% of his wages, so getting someone to pay half does indeed help them.

It helps them in the slightest. Thats still over £160k a week they'd be needing to pay which is higher than a lot of the players post their wage drops they lost through failure to hit CL last season. It's such a mute point and fanciful that Chelsea and Sterlign are going to go for this in my opinion.

I disagree strongly that it is a moot point. Can't see him coming to us though.

The Cravenette

The Jay to Birmingham rumours are still rumbling on.  It makes no sense to me and I will be extremely disappointed if it happens.  I think he will be extremely useful this season and Marco has already stated he intends to give him minutes.  If he was to be sold today it would leave the squad very short I think and also give a bad message to young players joining the academy that the pathway to the first team is nigh on impossible.

On a separate note I would love to see Reiss Nelsson in but not sure Arsenal want to let him go so late.

I was hoping for an early night tonight before the trip to Ipswich tomorrow, but looks like it could be going to the wire again.   ::scarf::

jayffc

Quote from: The Cravenette on August 30, 2024, 06:20:03 PMThe Jay to Birmingham rumours are still rumbling on.  It makes no sense to me and I will be extremely disappointed if it happens.  I think he will be extremely useful this season and Marco has already stated he intends to give him minutes.  If he was to be sold today it would leave the squad very short I think and also give a bad message to young players joining the academy that the pathway to the first team is nigh on impossible.

On a separate note I would love to see Reiss Nelsson in but not sure Arsenal want to let him go so late.

I was hoping for an early night tonight before the trip to Ipswich tomorrow, but looks like it could be going to the wire again.   ::scarf::

He wouldn't leave without being replaced. So it would be a matter of what could be brought in...That much we know


SerbianLad

Quote from: The Cravenette on August 30, 2024, 06:20:03 PMThe Jay to Birmingham rumours are still rumbling on.  It makes no sense to me and I will be extremely disappointed if it happens.  I think he will be extremely useful this season and Marco has already stated he intends to give him minutes.  If he was to be sold today it would leave the squad very short I think and also give a bad message to young players joining the academy that the pathway to the first team is nigh on impossible.

On a separate note I would love to see Reiss Nelsson in but not sure Arsenal want to let him go so late.

I was hoping for an early night tonight before the trip to Ipswich tomorrow, but looks like it could be going to the wire again.   ::scarf::
I'm not saying I'm for selling Stansfield(I'm against it at the price quoted), but it wouldn't leave our squad short as Marco said thay if someone leaves it would be a one in one out type of situation. So if we were to sell Stansfield, that would mean that we have a replacement ready.

RoyTund

Quote from: The Cravenette on August 30, 2024, 06:20:03 PMThe Jay to Birmingham rumours are still rumbling on.  It makes no sense to me and I will be extremely disappointed if it happens.  I think he will be extremely useful this season and Marco has already stated he intends to give him minutes.  If he was to be sold today it would leave the squad very short I think and also give a bad message to young players joining the academy that the pathway to the first team is nigh on impossible.

On a separate note I would love to see Reiss Nelsson in but not sure Arsenal want to let him go so late.

I was hoping for an early night tonight before the trip to Ipswich tomorrow, but looks like it could be going to the wire again.   ::scarf::

It's getting to the kind of sums where I can understand the need to consider the sale, especially if a sell on /buy back option can be included.