POST MATCH: Brentford

[KentFulham]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling

[Southcoastffc]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling

Apart from being what I'll generously call a half glass full merchant, perhaps you aren't a finance man. We're doing OK. Just need awareness and good business management,  which we seem to have.

[Woolly Mammoth]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling

Spot on, on all accounts. Never get an offer like that again.

[Moussa Dembele the 3rd]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling

If we had sold Muniz last summer this board would have had a melt-down.

[Matt10]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

I think this is just low hanging fruit. We have gone from a Pereira led creative attack to a systematic progressive forward passing team. Both fine in their own rights, but I think the creative loss of unpredictability that Pereira brought is starting to show when a team like us becomes one dimensional. Our strikers are suffering because we don't have good enough crossers of the ball, and we have very stock players that play in the 10 such as ESR who plays short on the ground and Josh King who is a typical 1v1 speed youth player that tries to play to feet or space, but in smaller spaces as well.

[MickTheBeard]

When ever people go on about munis I keep on thinking of silva kept on about how he told the club to buy him.Well as he has held us to ransom hope he pays his wages and takes him with him at the end of the season kill two birds with 1 stone.

[KentFulham]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling

If we had sold Muniz last summer this board would have had a melt-down.

Based on his stats for this season we would not have missed him though

[demeant0r]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling

If we had sold Muniz last summer this board would have had a melt-down.

Based on his stats for this season we would not have missed him though

Okay Captain Hindsight. Are you seriously suggesting we should've known he'd be shite this season after his incredible 24/25 season, where he was capable of dismantling the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea?

[General]

People seem to forget a fully fit Muniz, aged 23?, was at one point the most prolific striker in the league.

People seem desperate for instant gratification these days, and that's never been how the real world actually works.

Things take time. He's been out a lot of this season.. you just need to look at how reliable Wilson and Jimenez had become with consistent game time, when in pervious seasons they had struggled being in and out of the team.

As a young striker who can score in this league and has room for development before reaching his peak, he's definitely worth keeping around as a second striker and, if he gets back up to scratch, maybe a first team regular.

We obviously need a more reliable forward line, and our lack of goals isn't just Muniz related, but Wilson, Bobb, King, ESR, Iwobi etc related.

We've all known we've needed another option up front, and had we got in pepi in Jan, or someone else then or even before, then this season or second half of a season could've been a completely different proposition..

There are 3 points between us and 6th, with all to play for. That's not only indicative of us as a team and squad, but the general playing field across the PL being pretty tight and with few teams really charging on and having great seasons.

[LittleErn]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling

Spot on, on all accounts. Never get an offer like that again.

Hindsight is wonderful. did you say that at the time?

[H4usuallysitting]

Looking back I'm devastated we didn't pick up Raul when he was 21...what was our club thinking

[Volz]

I remember when Anguissa left, a lot of people said "good riddance", there was a thread about him being "the worst purchase in PL history" etc. He turned out be quite OK I would say.

And I am one hundred percent certain that if we sold Muniz and he turned out alright, these comments would be all about "how could we let him go, such incompetency."

Perhaps it is not always about the player, but the system and setup that they play in.

[KentFulham]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling

Spot on, on all accounts. Never get an offer like that again.

Hindsight is wonderful. did you say that at the time?

Damm right I did, and came in for the usual being negative stick as he will come good etc. Outside one purple patch he has never come good

[KentFulham]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

40 million Euro we could have had. Look at the state of our accounts!!!! What idiots sanctioned not selling

If we had sold Muniz last summer this board would have had a melt-down.

Based on his stats for this season we would not have missed him though

Okay Captain Hindsight. Are you seriously suggesting we should've known he'd be shite this season after his incredible 24/25 season, where he was capable of dismantling the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea?

He didnt have an incredible season did he, he had good stats for about 7 games