POST MATCH: Brentford

[bahay18]

It was pretty poor across the board.  Muniz didn't have a good day but you can remember one ball in the box or through ball he could have done anything with ?

I'm sure all the clubs who were rubbing their hands and getting Wilson on a free will all be thinking ' off the 200k a week offer ' after the last half a dozen games

[Jonny4]

Been to Forest, Liverpool & now Brentford. No goals scored in either game.

Most damning of Silva is that we've become boring to watch - something he hasn't had to contend with till now.

Today was dreadful (reflective of a dreadful standard of football in the entire league). The attack is non functioning at the moment.

The bad: Muniz, Smith Rowe, Bobb, Chukwueze, Iwobi - all dreadful out there. Everyone so tentative and lacking in spark. It's so bad, I'm not sure what the solution is. Nothing is working. Kevin has gained the most from this barren run, at least he drives forward.

Thought Lukic & Cairney worked OK, but ran out of puff. Do think two new CMs is a priority. Since Andreas & Jao left we look so weak and lacking in a press.

The Good: Leno, Bassey & Sess (our most dangerous attacker!). Thought Andersen was dreadful on the ball and got bailed out by Leno. Poor Diop must wonder what he needs to do to start.

We're still in the European mix, but seems unlikely. We look substantially worse than the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Everton. Bigger danger Leeds overtake us at this point.

[Somerset Fulham]

That was as bad a watch as I have seen all season. But we weren't the only poor side out there and the other lot are apparently still in the hunt for Europe, so y'know.

Leno was tremendous and that save at the end was absolutley out of order.

[alfie]

Been to Forest, Liverpool & now Brentford. No goals scored in either game.

Most damning of Silva is that we've become boring to watch - something he hasn't had to contend with till now.

Today was dreadful (reflective of a dreadful standard of football in the entire league). The attack is non functioning at the moment.

The bad: Muniz, Smith Rowe, Bobb, Chukwueze, Iwobi - all dreadful out there. Everyone so tentative and lacking in spark. It's so bad, I'm not sure what the solution is. Nothing is working. Kevin has gained the most from this barren run, at least he drives forward.

Thought Lukic & Cairney worked OK, but ran out of puff. Do think two new CMs is a priority. Since Andreas & Jao left we look so weak and lacking in a press.

The Good: Leno, Bassey & Sess (our most dangerous attacker!). Thought Andersen was dreadful on the ball and got bailed out by Leno. Poor Diop must wonder what he needs to do to start.

We're still in the European mix, but seems unlikely. We look substantially worse than the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Everton. Bigger danger Leeds overtake us at this point.

Sorry I totally disagree with ESR being totally terrible, he was the only one who looked like pressing.

[Jonny4]

Been to Forest, Liverpool & now Brentford. No goals scored in either game.

Most damning of Silva is that we've become boring to watch - something he hasn't had to contend with till now.

Today was dreadful (reflective of a dreadful standard of football in the entire league). The attack is non functioning at the moment.

The bad: Muniz, Smith Rowe, Bobb, Chukwueze, Iwobi - all dreadful out there. Everyone so tentative and lacking in spark. It's so bad, I'm not sure what the solution is. Nothing is working. Kevin has gained the most from this barren run, at least he drives forward.

Thought Lukic & Cairney worked OK, but ran out of puff. Do think two new CMs is a priority. Since Andreas & Jao left we look so weak and lacking in a press.

The Good: Leno, Bassey & Sess (our most dangerous attacker!). Thought Andersen was dreadful on the ball and got bailed out by Leno. Poor Diop must wonder what he needs to do to start.

We're still in the European mix, but seems unlikely. We look substantially worse than the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Everton. Bigger danger Leeds overtake us at this point.

Sorry I totally disagree with ESR being totally terrible, he was the only one who looked like pressing.

Unfortunately I don't think pressing is enough for him - £35m and all he does is turn backwards or pass the back where it came. I don't think he's got the mentality to ever be a success, basically a tidy footballer and nothing more. Is impact on the game is negligible and it has been for two seasons. He's certainly not the only out there failing to meet the necessary standards, but as a marquee attacker playing #10 it's not nearly good enough.

Three goals and zero assists in 32 games? Rubbish. That's a big reason we don't score any goals or feed the strikers.

[LittleErn]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

[Zoppa77]

Bees go Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
FFC  go Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Marco Rinse & Repeat.

Agree with many of the posts above.
Special mention Andersen. OMG So bad.
Thank you Leno, top save.

[Carborundum]

An away point against a team in the top half of the table is never a bad point.  This one was as close to being a bad point as they come.

When our opponents press, we struggle to break free.  So we have got good at defending the consequences of not breaking the press.  That's not as good as breaking the press.

When our opponents hold shape, there's insufficient devilment in the final third.  Kevin's injured, Chukwueze can't or won't, HW is off the boil, ESR, Bobb they appear to lack confidence.

It's a confidence game, right now there's a cloud of uncertainty.  I don't expect it to lift until the team know who next season's gaffer is going to be and where they stand.

[KJS]

Bees go Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
FFC  go Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Marco Rinse & Repeat.

Agree with many of the posts above.
Special mention Andersen. OMG So bad.
Thank you Leno, top save.

The Beezz were poor and the supposedly super striker was in either Bassey's or Anderson pocket all game

[sarnian]

Bees go Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
FFC  go Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Marco Rinse & Repeat.

Agree with many of the posts above.
Special mention Andersen. OMG So bad.
Thank you Leno, top save.

The Beezz were poor and the supposedly super striker was in either Bassey's or Anderson pocket all game

TNT were giving man of the match to Andersen over Bassey until Leon's wonder save so I find the slating of Andersen by some very strange. Watching the game I have to agree with TNT.

[KentFulham]

I watched Brighton and the pace and movement they have was very exciting to watch. It really highlighted how little movement we have and how slow we are.

[SerbianLad]

I watched Brighton and the pace and movement they have was very exciting to watch. It really highlighted how little movement we have and how slow we are.

And they drew that game (as well as the reverse fixture) against the terrible Spurs side that we beat both times we played them. They are also only 2 points ahead of us.

[SG]

I watched Brighton and the pace and movement they have was very exciting to watch. It really highlighted how little movement we have and how slow we are.

I can assure you that has not been typical of their season. Maybe it's because Spurs are open and easy to play against. As a south coast resident surrounded by Seagull fans many of them are moaning about their manager, his substitutions and boring performances at home - sound familiar?

[demeant0r]

I watched Brighton and the pace and movement they have was very exciting to watch. It really highlighted how little movement we have and how slow we are.

I can assure you that has not been typical of their season. Maybe it's because Spurs are open and easy to play against. As a south coast resident surrounded by Seagull fans many of them are moaning about their manager, his substitutions and boring performances at home - sound familiar?

To be fair, spurs made us look good too

[hovewhite]

It was pretty poor across the board.  Muniz didn't have a good day but you can remember one ball in the box or through ball he could have done anything with ?

I'm sure all the clubs who were rubbing their hands and getting Wilson on a free will all be thinking ' off the 200k a week offer ' after the last half a dozen games

now world cup interest is over Wilson back to playing his usual game.

[SimonDaviesEnjoyer]

Far to many lightweight players in the squad

This is a good point. We need to get some of our forwards in the gym over the summer, notably King (although he'll naturally get stronger as he grows into his body).

[3rdgenfan]

I am surprised how many on here persist in  making excuses for Muniz. Mainly that he receives no service and that he still isn't match fit.

He seems to be perfectly fit to me, and I can see no difference between his performances before his injury and since he came back.

Some possible reasons why he gets no service are: 1 his teammates don't trust him to do anything meaningful with the ball once he gets it. 2 he rarely if ever loses his marker. 3 he hasn't got the speed to run past most defenders so is rarely in space. 4 he doesn't attack the ball in the box but waits for a mistake.

Totally agree. He's a reactive striker not a proactive striker. Only time he will score is if he gets the perfect pass or cross and never creates anything for himself or anyone else.

We should have sold him when we could as his value is going down with every game he plays

[bog]

It was that riveting that the match commentary team started showing the M4 and talking about this! 

What is really annoying is that we are only 3 points behind our billionaire strugglers up the road. 

[alfie]

Been to Forest, Liverpool & now Brentford. No goals scored in either game.

Most damning of Silva is that we've become boring to watch - something he hasn't had to contend with till now.

Today was dreadful (reflective of a dreadful standard of football in the entire league). The attack is non functioning at the moment.

The bad: Muniz, Smith Rowe, Bobb, Chukwueze, Iwobi - all dreadful out there. Everyone so tentative and lacking in spark. It's so bad, I'm not sure what the solution is. Nothing is working. Kevin has gained the most from this barren run, at least he drives forward.

Thought Lukic & Cairney worked OK, but ran out of puff. Do think two new CMs is a priority. Since Andreas & Jao left we look so weak and lacking in a press.

The Good: Leno, Bassey & Sess (our most dangerous attacker!). Thought Andersen was dreadful on the ball and got bailed out by Leno. Poor Diop must wonder what he needs to do to start.

We're still in the European mix, but seems unlikely. We look substantially worse than the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Everton. Bigger danger Leeds overtake us at this point.

Sorry I totally disagree with ESR being totally terrible, he was the only one who looked like pressing.

Unfortunately I don't think pressing is enough for him - £35m and all he does is turn backwards or pass the back where it came. I don't think he's got the mentality to ever be a success, basically a tidy footballer and nothing more. Is impact on the game is negligible and it has been for two seasons. He's certainly not the only out there failing to meet the necessary standards, but as a marquee attacker playing #10 it's not nearly good enough.

Three goals and zero assists in 32 games? Rubbish. That's a big reason we don't score any goals or feed the strikers.

He is a quick short passing player and at Arsenal he had players around him that were of the same mould, unfortunately here he doesn't have that, especially as Silva seems to want to play a slow defensive game, any flare he has will soon be driven out of him.

[H4usuallysitting]

That was as bad a watch as I have seen all season. But we weren't the only poor side out there and the other lot are apparently still in the hunt for Europe, so y'know.

Leno was tremendous and that save at the end was absolutley out of order.

Was it a Timex