Silva has not made his mind up yet

[Jimsbeerbelly]

That's nice of him, but how long do the hierarchy let this go on before it has a serious impact on next seasons proceedings?

https://x.com/fulhamtransfer/status/2045799888638587089?s=46&t=MQpeKLAIS_cZtCbMzx7__w

[Deadcowboys]

That's nice of him, but how long do the hierarchy let this go on before it has a serious impact on next seasons proceedings?

https://x.com/fulhamtransfer/status/2045799888638587089?s=46&t=MQpeKLAIS_cZtCbMzx7__w

Well he made 1 decision, he got his hair cut.

[Volz]

Personally i am incredibly fine with Wilson leaving. One year ago I considered him our weakest current player together with Reed. And don't get me wrong, i am very thankful for both of them. But in five years Wilson has had one full, great season with us. He is 29. His salary is expected to be at least multiplied with 5 from what i understand of his current pay.
 
At this point in time all our players look grinded down and severely hampered by tactical limitations in all offensive manners yet again. Which is also a recurring theme at the end of a season. Be careful what you wish for etc, I know. But  personally I want a fresh, inspired manager with new and inspiring ideas that can truly get the best out of all our attackers. Enough of this "everybody has to contribute defensively and play safe and slow passes and make triple sure that one is one hundred percent sure before even thinking about taking a shot at goal" kind of approach.
Thanks Marco, truly one of the best managers that we have had for many years. But this approach will never get us any further than mid table.

[KentFulham]

Silva out

[cookieg]

SK needs to call time on all this will he won't he nonsense.

[SuffolkWhite]

Hopefully the Club have given Silva the deadline of the Newcastle game, and if he decides to leave we can give him a good send off on the final day of the season. We can then get in a Manager from the list the club have drawn up!

[hovewhite]

We should move on get rid of Marco simples.

[Hugh Janus]

Personally i am incredibly fine with Wilson leaving. One year ago I considered him our weakest current player together with Reed. And don't get me wrong, i am very thankful for both of them. But in five years Wilson has had one full, great season with us. He is 29. His salary is expected to be at least multiplied with 5 from what i understand of his current pay.
 
At this point in time all our players look grinded down and severely hampered by tactical limitations in all offensive manners yet again. Which is also a recurring theme at the end of a season. Be careful what you wish for etc, I know. But  personally I want a fresh, inspired manager with new and inspiring ideas that can truly get the best out of all our attackers. Enough of this "everybody has to contribute defensively and play safe and slow passes and make triple sure that one is one hundred percent sure before even thinking about taking a shot at goal" kind of approach.
Thanks Marco, truly one of the best managers that we have had for many years. But this approach will never get us any further than mid table.

I agree entirely. Given Harry's age and the fact I'm getting deja vu vibes with his purple patch and Muniz I'm not fussed about him leaving. He couldn't get in the team last season.

We could have had £40m for Muniz. Sadly we aren't getting that offer again.

Preference would be Marco stays but again if he wants out there will be another manager - Frank, Amorin etc.

[Marcus]

Personally i am incredibly fine with Wilson leaving. One year ago I considered him our weakest current player together with Reed. And don't get me wrong, i am very thankful for both of them. But in five years Wilson has had one full, great season with us. He is 29. His salary is expected to be at least multiplied with 5 from what i understand of his current pay.
 
At this point in time all our players look grinded down and severely hampered by tactical limitations in all offensive manners yet again. Which is also a recurring theme at the end of a season. Be careful what you wish for etc, I know. But  personally I want a fresh, inspired manager with new and inspiring ideas that can truly get the best out of all our attackers. Enough of this "everybody has to contribute defensively and play safe and slow passes and make triple sure that one is one hundred percent sure before even thinking about taking a shot at goal" kind of approach.
Thanks Marco, truly one of the best managers that we have had for many years. But this approach will never get us any further than mid table.

I agree entirely. Given Harry's age and the fact I'm getting deja vu vibes with his purple patch and Muniz I'm not fussed about him leaving. He couldn't get in the team last season.

We could have had £40m for Muniz. Sadly we aren't getting that offer again.

Preference would be Marco stays but again if he wants out there will be another manager - Frank, Amorin etc.

For a club like Fulham to get any further than mid-league would be quite exceptional the way the cartel has carved things up. And if we got a manager who did that he'd be off to one of the cartel in a shot. I don't get what planet some of our fans are on.

[cookieg]

Personally i am incredibly fine with Wilson leaving. One year ago I considered him our weakest current player together with Reed. And don't get me wrong, i am very thankful for both of them. But in five years Wilson has had one full, great season with us. He is 29. His salary is expected to be at least multiplied with 5 from what i understand of his current pay.
 
At this point in time all our players look grinded down and severely hampered by tactical limitations in all offensive manners yet again. Which is also a recurring theme at the end of a season. Be careful what you wish for etc, I know. But  personally I want a fresh, inspired manager with new and inspiring ideas that can truly get the best out of all our attackers. Enough of this "everybody has to contribute defensively and play safe and slow passes and make triple sure that one is one hundred percent sure before even thinking about taking a shot at goal" kind of approach.
Thanks Marco, truly one of the best managers that we have had for many years. But this approach will never get us any further than mid table.

I agree entirely. Given Harry's age and the fact I'm getting deja vu vibes with his purple patch and Muniz I'm not fussed about him leaving. He couldn't get in the team last season.

We could have had £40m for Muniz. Sadly we aren't getting that offer again.

Preference would be Marco stays but again if he wants out there will be another manager - Frank, Amorin etc.

For a club like Fulham to get any further than mid-league would be quite exceptional the way the cartel has carved things up. And if we got a manager who did that he'd be off to one of the cartel in a shot. I don't get what planet some of our fans are on.

How many of our fans have commented that Marco is off to bigger and better things? He's been here 5 years and yes we are a stable mid table club but he isn't getting a big job. He isn't a big enough name to get the fans of Newcastle, ManUre, Chelsea excited I can't even see Palace being interested. If he goes anywhere it will be abroad.

Maybe if over the last couple seasons if we'd had got to the FA Cup semis or into Europe which we really should given how well we were performing up until March and then got to safety and stopped trying I could understand his head being turned.

[Volz]

Personally i am incredibly fine with Wilson leaving. One year ago I considered him our weakest current player together with Reed. And don't get me wrong, i am very thankful for both of them. But in five years Wilson has had one full, great season with us. He is 29. His salary is expected to be at least multiplied with 5 from what i understand of his current pay.
 
At this point in time all our players look grinded down and severely hampered by tactical limitations in all offensive manners yet again. Which is also a recurring theme at the end of a season. Be careful what you wish for etc, I know. But  personally I want a fresh, inspired manager with new and inspiring ideas that can truly get the best out of all our attackers. Enough of this "everybody has to contribute defensively and play safe and slow passes and make triple sure that one is one hundred percent sure before even thinking about taking a shot at goal" kind of approach.
Thanks Marco, truly one of the best managers that we have had for many years. But this approach will never get us any further than mid table.

I agree entirely. Given Harry's age and the fact I'm getting deja vu vibes with his purple patch and Muniz I'm not fussed about him leaving. He couldn't get in the team last season.

We could have had £40m for Muniz. Sadly we aren't getting that offer again.

Preference would be Marco stays but again if he wants out there will be another manager - Frank, Amorin etc.

For a club like Fulham to get any further than mid-league would be quite exceptional the way the cartel has carved things up. And if we got a manager who did that he'd be off to one of the cartel in a shot. I don't get what planet some of our fans are on.

It is not at all about delusional entitlement thinking we should compete for Champions League. To me this is about acknowledging that we have now stabilized in PL (thank you Marco), we are spending record sums on transfers (ESR. Kevin), and hence we should attempt at slight progression instead of aiming to stay put.
I don't especially enjoy this pedestrian style of football that we have showcased lately. You see other teams at similar size and similar spending going full force in attack and at least attempt to challenge. Again, this is of course to be adapted according to who the opposition is. Fulham under Marco has become increasingly predictable, and feels slower and more safety focused game by game.
I also feel that perhaps the reason why Wilson has been so good this year is because there was a fire burning under his feet, needing to showcase what he could do, for a new contract, for the World Cup, for a potential transfer. Perhaps he took shots at times where Marco normally would say "not in that position" and scored. But what is Marco then gonna say afterwards, "yes yes he played well and he won us the game but he didn't follow my instructions"?
On top of that Marco seemingly demands all  new players to adapt to his intricacies fully before fielding them unlike most other clubs.
Look at Kevin, seemingly great in Europe, record signing. got an early cameo amd showed such promise. Then endless comments from Marco about "he needs to understand our system and get ready first.". Which means, help cover at left back, back track, back track. And magic has been fading.
Look at Chukwueze. Spectacular cameos at the very beginning. Again the same. fading  when tactical approach fully implemented.

I feel that the issue here in attack may not just be the players, but the rigid instructions they are given in how to play, not take any chances, look for clear openings, cycle the ball, rinse and repeat 

And to me this game plan also affects our sense of urgency. When we play 80-85 minutes of highly controlled football and we suddenly find ourselves one goal down, regardless of plan it's not just to flip a switch and say "everybody ATTACK". The players have embodied "safety first" for the entire game and are often tired, probably both physically and mentally. and just a few may be able to overcome that.

[The blahblahman]

I think Marco will stay. I don't see where he goes.

[demeant0r]

At some point, we need to stop expecting things from Fulham because either the manager or this squad is not it.

[Deeping_white]

Personally i am incredibly fine with Wilson leaving. One year ago I considered him our weakest current player together with Reed. And don't get me wrong, i am very thankful for both of them. But in five years Wilson has had one full, great season with us. He is 29. His salary is expected to be at least multiplied with 5 from what i understand of his current pay.
 
At this point in time all our players look grinded down and severely hampered by tactical limitations in all offensive manners yet again. Which is also a recurring theme at the end of a season. Be careful what you wish for etc, I know. But  personally I want a fresh, inspired manager with new and inspiring ideas that can truly get the best out of all our attackers. Enough of this "everybody has to contribute defensively and play safe and slow passes and make triple sure that one is one hundred percent sure before even thinking about taking a shot at goal" kind of approach.
Thanks Marco, truly one of the best managers that we have had for many years. But this approach will never get us any further than mid table.

I agree entirely. Given Harry's age and the fact I'm getting deja vu vibes with his purple patch and Muniz I'm not fussed about him leaving. He couldn't get in the team last season.

We could have had £40m for Muniz. Sadly we aren't getting that offer again.

Preference would be Marco stays but again if he wants out there will be another manager - Frank, Amorin etc.

For a club like Fulham to get any further than mid-league would be quite exceptional the way the cartel has carved things up. And if we got a manager who did that he'd be off to one of the cartel in a shot. I don't get what planet some of our fans are on.

It is not at all about delusional entitlement thinking we should compete for Champions League. To me this is about acknowledging that we have now stabilized in PL (thank you Marco), we are spending record sums on transfers (ESR. Kevin), and hence we should attempt at slight progression instead of aiming to stay put.
I don't especially enjoy this pedestrian style of football that we have showcased lately. You see other teams at similar size and similar spending going full force in attack and at least attempt to challenge. Again, this is of course to be adapted according to who the opposition is. Fulham under Marco has become increasingly predictable, and feels slower and more safety focused game by game.
I also feel that perhaps the reason why Wilson has been so good this year is because there was a fire burning under his feet, needing to showcase what he could do, for a new contract, for the World Cup, for a potential transfer. Perhaps he took shots at times where Marco normally would say "not in that position" and scored. But what is Marco then gonna say afterwards, "yes yes he played well and he won us the game but he didn't follow my instructions"?
On top of that Marco seemingly demands all  new players to adapt to his intricacies fully before fielding them unlike most other clubs.
Look at Kevin, seemingly great in Europe, record signing. got an early cameo amd showed such promise. Then endless comments from Marco about "he needs to understand our system and get ready first.". Which means, help cover at left back, back track, back track. And magic has been fading.
Look at Chukwueze. Spectacular cameos at the very beginning. Again the same. fading  when tactical approach fully implemented.

I feel that the issue here in attack may not just be the players, but the rigid instructions they are given in how to play, not take any chances, look for clear openings, cycle the ball, rinse and repeat 

And to me this game plan also affects our sense of urgency. When we play 80-85 minutes of highly controlled football and we suddenly find ourselves one goal down, regardless of plan it's not just to flip a switch and say "everybody ATTACK". The players have embodied "safety first" for the entire game and are often tired, probably both physically and mentally. and just a few may be able to overcome that.

I think this is pretty close to it for me as well. Lately there've been so many threads started along the lines of "Look how badly X is doing" or "what's the point in X" and if we're having a discussion about so many players being out of form or looking worse as the season has gone on, eventually you have to start looking at the coaching or tactics because half a squad doesn't just become rubbish overnight; the system they're being forced to play is making them regresss in their performances. I don't quite know how we've gone from being willing to go toe to toe with every team in the league to incredibly risk averse, but Silva has to own that because the players are following his instructions.

In reply to Marcus' point - I would rather we had the issue of our players/coaches being at risk of being poached because we're doing so well because it means we'll likely be getting good money for them, which can then be reinvested back into the squad to maintain standards or improve it. At the moment we're just a midtable team who aren't even posing a serious threat to winning a domestic trophy. Whilst midtable anonymity might be safe and secure, you surely have to ask the question of what the plan for the club would ever be if we even wanted to try and punch above our weight in the sense of trying to get into Europe or win the energy drink or FA Cup and finally have a major tropy to our names.

[Twig]

Personally i am incredibly fine with Wilson leaving. One year ago I considered him our weakest current player together with Reed. And don't get me wrong, i am very thankful for both of them. But in five years Wilson has had one full, great season with us. He is 29. His salary is expected to be at least multiplied with 5 from what i understand of his current pay.
 
At this point in time all our players look grinded down and severely hampered by tactical limitations in all offensive manners yet again. Which is also a recurring theme at the end of a season. Be careful what you wish for etc, I know. But  personally I want a fresh, inspired manager with new and inspiring ideas that can truly get the best out of all our attackers. Enough of this "everybody has to contribute defensively and play safe and slow passes and make triple sure that one is one hundred percent sure before even thinking about taking a shot at goal" kind of approach.
Thanks Marco, truly one of the best managers that we have had for many years. But this approach will never get us any further than mid table.

I agree entirely. Given Harry's age and the fact I'm getting deja vu vibes with his purple patch and Muniz I'm not fussed about him leaving. He couldn't get in the team last season.

We could have had £40m for Muniz. Sadly we aren't getting that offer again.

Preference would be Marco stays but again if he wants out there will be another manager - Frank, Amorin etc.

For a club like Fulham to get any further than mid-league would be quite exceptional the way the cartel has carved things up. And if we got a manager who did that he'd be off to one of the cartel in a shot. I don't get what planet some of our fans are on.

It is not at all about delusional entitlement thinking we should compete for Champions League. To me this is about acknowledging that we have now stabilized in PL (thank you Marco), we are spending record sums on transfers (ESR. Kevin), and hence we should attempt at slight progression instead of aiming to stay put.
I don't especially enjoy this pedestrian style of football that we have showcased lately. You see other teams at similar size and similar spending going full force in attack and at least attempt to challenge. Again, this is of course to be adapted according to who the opposition is. Fulham under Marco has become increasingly predictable, and feels slower and more safety focused game by game.
I also feel that perhaps the reason why Wilson has been so good this year is because there was a fire burning under his feet, needing to showcase what he could do, for a new contract, for the World Cup, for a potential transfer. Perhaps he took shots at times where Marco normally would say "not in that position" and scored. But what is Marco then gonna say afterwards, "yes yes he played well and he won us the game but he didn't follow my instructions"?
On top of that Marco seemingly demands all  new players to adapt to his intricacies fully before fielding them unlike most other clubs.
Look at Kevin, seemingly great in Europe, record signing. got an early cameo amd showed such promise. Then endless comments from Marco about "he needs to understand our system and get ready first.". Which means, help cover at left back, back track, back track. And magic has been fading.
Look at Chukwueze. Spectacular cameos at the very beginning. Again the same. fading  when tactical approach fully implemented.

I feel that the issue here in attack may not just be the players, but the rigid instructions they are given in how to play, not take any chances, look for clear openings, cycle the ball, rinse and repeat 

And to me this game plan also affects our sense of urgency. When we play 80-85 minutes of highly controlled football and we suddenly find ourselves one goal down, regardless of plan it's not just to flip a switch and say "everybody ATTACK". The players have embodied "safety first" for the entire game and are often tired, probably both physically and mentally. and just a few may be able to overcome that.

Volz I agree with both your posts and I think they are fair and balanced.

[bill taylors apprentice]

If he hasn't made his mind up yet, that suggests to me he has offers and is waiting to see what FFC's final offer will be.

If was definitely  staying he would have signed by now.

I would be OK with him staying but only because there's a risk bringing in a new regime but he needs to change his approach to how we play.
Expecting Kevin, Bobb, Muniz, ESR, King etc to all on a sudden just raise their game consistently and take us to the next level is dreaming.

[perry geyton]

Don't really need to refer to X to put 2 and 2 together

Marco's weighing up his options on his career, fair enough

Time will tell

Eddie Howe
Tomas Frank
etc etc etc

[JimmyConway]

I have always thought he would sign a new contract and still lean towards that but it is looking more and more unlikely as the season concludes. It must be a difficult final hurdle to jump since Khan Senior was here around the time we played Burnley. What's that 4 weeks or so ago? Perhaps Marco might be leaning towards he has an even stronger hand should he lead the team to European football or beating highest ever position? Might be barking up the wrong tree here but I wonder if the issue is a power struggle between him and Khan Junior?

[FFC007]

Hopefully with Spurs (fingers crossed) crashing out of the top flight the bigger clubs may start to get jittery in that they could easily fall through the trap door, even if they think they have a god given right not to be relegated.

Unfortunately, oil money and dirty hedge fund dollars will always buy success, and the best legal teams to get them off any punishment.