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Title: Berbatov - Update - in club car to Motspur - merged
Post by: spikey norman on August 29, 2012, 06:38:10 PM
just seen on sky sports that we are showing late interest in berbatov rivalling fiorantinas interest - can't see it happening
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Jack Fulham on August 29, 2012, 06:39:45 PM
It seems Juve have snatched him from Florence. Not coming to us.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: HatterDon on August 29, 2012, 07:57:43 PM
The very definition of a luxury player. Needed a Keane to do all his running for him. Good finisher, though. I'll not miss him.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: tommy on August 29, 2012, 08:03:02 PM
He's not for us.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcitaly on August 29, 2012, 08:24:49 PM
Italian newspapers have just confirmed that he will go to Juventus.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: God The Mechanic on August 29, 2012, 08:34:48 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on August 29, 2012, 07:57:43 PM
The very definition of a luxury player. Needed a Keane to do all his running for him. Good finisher, though. I'll not miss him.

Seriously??  I personally rate him very highly, and a player who Fulham would massively benefit from.  Then again, having seen Ruiz a few times last season I'd put them both in the same kinda category.  Not too sure you could have two players like that in a team, not that he'd be a "luxury" though :P
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 08:54:48 PM
According to twitter (i know) Sky Italia are reporting he has turned down Juventus to join Fulham
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ElissonSnygg on August 29, 2012, 08:56:11 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 08:54:48 PM
According to twitter (i know) Sky Italia are reporting he has turned down Juventus to join Fulham

Yes saw that as well. Sky Italia reporting that he wants to join Fulham!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: kiwiwaka on August 29, 2012, 08:58:56 PM
Any links?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 08:59:50 PM
If you type berbatov into twitter search you will be his by about a mission retweets of the news

Nothing real yet
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: TWFL on August 29, 2012, 09:01:41 PM
http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html (http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: fulhamben on August 29, 2012, 09:01:59 PM
why would he choose a team we smash every time we play them other us.  hell yes. not sure about his work rate but he is a player ive heard of
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on August 29, 2012, 09:09:56 PM
Quote from: TWFL on August 29, 2012, 09:01:41 PM
http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html (http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html)

http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html (http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html)

Double refusal of Bulgarian: the first is intended to Florence, then to Turin, but in the end who is convinced the London club. Here is the plot of the last days of market.

Between the two litigants has the third: Fulham controsorpassa Juventus and buy former Manchester United striker. DAY Waiting in Florence - In Florence are all waiting for: the fans gathered outside the Artemio Franchi, while the technical director Eduardo Macia is located at the airport. The Postman is Dimitar Berbatov, Manchester United striker: he is ready for a three-year to 1.8 million per season. The airport in Monaco - The player and his agent, however, and will never come. In their place a call comes in, which blocks the situation. The two make a stopover in Germany in Monaco of Bavaria in the early afternoon light up the phone and receive offers from Juventus and Fulham. Overtaking of Juventus - Juventus The surpasses Fulham and closes the deal with Manchester United. British runners to be 4.5 million payable in two years, while the player will receive 1.8 million per year plus bonuses. About twice as much as he would get by signing with Fiorentina. At this point, Berbatov and his agent should only buy a flight with which to Torino and sign the new contract. More difficulties for the Fiorentina has only 48 hours to find a striker (Niclkas Bendtner, Arsenal in pole position). controsorpasso The Fulham - When all seemed done, twist: Bulgarian refuses the offer and Juventus choose English.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: watfordwhite on August 29, 2012, 09:10:47 PM
Quote from: TWFL on August 29, 2012, 09:01:41 PM
http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html (http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html)


Between the two litigants has the third: Fulham controsorpassa Juventus and buy former Manchester United striker. DAY Waiting in Florence - In Florence are all waiting for: the fans gathered outside the Artemio Franchi, while the technical director Eduardo Macia is located at the airport. The Postman is Dimitar Berbatov, Manchester United striker: he is ready for a three-year to 1.8 million per season. The airport in Monaco - The player and his agent, however, and will never come. In their place a call comes in, which blocks the situation. The two make a stopover in Germany in Monaco of Bavaria in the early afternoon light up the phone and receive offers from Juventus and Fulham. Overtaking of Juventus - Juventus The surpasses Fulham and seems to close the deal with Manchester United: 4, 5 million payable to Manchester United in two years, to the footballer 1.8 million per year plus bonuses. About twice as much as he would get by signing with Fiorentina. controsorpasso The Fulham - When everything seems to have done, twist: Bulgarian refuses the offer and choose black and white than English, for family reasons.


4, 5 million payable to Manchester United in two years Not a bad deal.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: horse1031 on August 29, 2012, 09:12:29 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 29, 2012, 09:01:59 PM
why would he choose a team we smash every time we play them other us.  hell yes. not sure about his work rate but he is a player ive heard of

at the end of the article it says he is choosing Fulham for family reasons...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: fulhamben on August 29, 2012, 09:15:41 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on August 29, 2012, 09:12:29 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 29, 2012, 09:01:59 PM
why would he choose a team we smash every time we play them other us.  hell yes. not sure about his work rate but he is a player ive heard of

at the end of the article it says he is choosing Fulham for family reasons...
but if we do sign, we all know its for footballing reasons and to come to the greatest team on earth. dont delude yourself with this family nonsense :)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: itombomb on August 29, 2012, 09:16:18 PM
He's excellent, but I don't think he can play up top on his own, which would mean we would have to either drop Ruiz or have him play out wide.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: westcliff white on August 29, 2012, 09:16:33 PM
if this is true he and petric could be a good partnership, with rodellega on the back burner for us.

i think he would play with petric just behind him, tuiz on the right and a choice to come from the left, and remember dempsey has not gone yet
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: twang on August 29, 2012, 09:18:04 PM
Quote from: watfordwhite on August 29, 2012, 09:10:47 PM
Quote from: TWFL on August 29, 2012, 09:01:41 PM
http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html (http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html)
4, 5 million payable to Manchester United in two years Not a bad deal.


Euros, as well. So about £3,5m, which sounds too good to be true, so it probably is.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Aaron on August 29, 2012, 09:18:59 PM
If this is true and the Dembele fee is accurate I'm very nearly happy again.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Bilet on August 29, 2012, 09:20:19 PM
If we sign Berbatov...that's brilliant. Wow! Just wow!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Jack Fulham on August 29, 2012, 09:23:47 PM
Lol can't wait to see the complaints about Ruiz and Berbatov's work rate. Would be an exceptional signing though.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: horse1031 on August 29, 2012, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on August 29, 2012, 09:23:47 PM
Lol can't wait to see the complaints about Ruiz and Berbatov's work rate. Would be an exceptional signing though.

shhhhh! :033:

He really doesn't have the best work rate does he...  still, he can finish and that is what we need.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Oiseau on August 29, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
I'd love this to be true and I really hope so. He seems like a real gent with a cracking finish.

At the same time, I doubt it. The most 'trustworthy' source talking about this story is TalkSport, isn't it? He had quite a public falling out while he was at Spurs, too (he refused to train with him apparently.)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: itombomb on August 29, 2012, 09:30:45 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on August 29, 2012, 09:23:47 PM
Lol can't wait to see the complaints about Ruiz and Berbatov's work rate. Would be an exceptional signing though.
Ruiz actually worked very hard in both the Norwich and United games, doing a lot of closing down, it is just he can lack strength to affect the tackle.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 29, 2012, 09:31:56 PM
Bulgarian medias confirm he rejected Juventus and will most likely join Fulham. However they are using the same info from italian websites.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Jack Fulham on August 29, 2012, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: itombomb on August 29, 2012, 09:30:45 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on August 29, 2012, 09:23:47 PM
Lol can't wait to see the complaints about Ruiz and Berbatov's work rate. Would be an exceptional signing though.
Ruiz actually worked very hard in both the Norwich and United games, doing a lot of closing down, it is just he can lack strength to affect the tackle.

Don't worry, I know Ruiz works hard. Just not everyone agrees but that is another debate for another time. Fingers crossed Berba signs!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Mr Fulham on August 29, 2012, 09:34:47 PM
Ruiz is actually the player who runs the most miles (dunno if that's grammatically correct) for us during matches.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cottage cheese on August 29, 2012, 09:34:58 PM
wikipedia has him playing for juventus in history  bit..so someone has jumped the gun a bit early!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Grant on August 29, 2012, 09:36:12 PM
Type Sky Italia Sports into Google, it says Berbatov has rejected Juventus in favour of Fulham. Or at least tht's what I'm told. I don't speak Italian.

http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html (http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Mr Fulham on August 29, 2012, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: Grant on August 29, 2012, 09:36:12 PM
Type Sky Italia Sports into Google, it says Berbatov has rejected Juventus in favour of Fulham. Or at least tht's what I'm told. I don't speak Italian.

http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html (http://sport.sky.it/sport/calciomercato/2012/08/29/mercato_berbatov_manchester_united_juventus_fiorentina_fulham.html)

vince - victory

no - no


Ah, the good ol' latin influence in english language.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mr-ska on August 29, 2012, 09:40:14 PM
This rumour is building, as rumours do...  its like a tadpole..  its growing legs.... pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese let it happen
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Senior Supporter on August 29, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
The reported wage figure seems too good to be true, 1.8m equates to 35 grand a week (plus bonuses) ... but are they talking Euros, in which case it is even better.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Berserker on August 29, 2012, 09:41:26 PM
you mean he's growing into a frog!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ElissonSnygg on August 29, 2012, 09:42:06 PM
He've chosen us because of family reasons apparently.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 09:42:19 PM
qpr (or spurs) to intervene in 5.......4........3.......
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: BestOfBrede on August 29, 2012, 09:45:16 PM
Quote from: Berserker on August 29, 2012, 09:41:26 PM
you mean he's growing into a frog!
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Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: horse1031 on August 29, 2012, 09:46:34 PM
it has to have some truth to it doesnt it?  Fiorentina, Juventus, and then FULHAM?  Where would the media get this from...  I guess he did play for Martin and Spurs but did they get along.  I think his goal scoring record was really good there though.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 09:47:37 PM
This is a quote on Twitter being attributed to Guiseppe Marotta (Director General at Juve):

Giuseppe Marotta: "We went for Berbatov after he said no to Fiorentina. He chose Fulham because he wants to stay in England."
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: horse1031 on August 29, 2012, 09:50:50 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 09:47:37 PM
This is a quote on Twitter being attributed to Guiseppe Marotta (Director General at Juve):

Giuseppe Marotta: "We went for Berbatov after he said no to Fiorentina. He chose Fulham because he wants to stay in England."

sign him up then for that type of money.  don't wait for someone else to swoop in. 089.gif
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: HatterDon on August 29, 2012, 09:52:37 PM
Hmmmm, remember earlier in this thread that I said he was a luxury because he needed a Keane to do his running for him? It occurs to me that Petric might be just the guy he needs.

This is becoming interesting.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mr-ska on August 29, 2012, 09:53:42 PM
Berserker..  kiss a frog  what does he turn into....  ha ha ha xx
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: bigalffc on August 29, 2012, 09:53:53 PM
it's on ESPN and sport 360.  I think he's a bargain who could come to fulham to resurrect his career with his old manager
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Mr Fulham on August 29, 2012, 09:54:10 PM
VA BENE.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: twang on August 29, 2012, 09:55:39 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 29, 2012, 09:47:37 PM
This is a quote on Twitter being attributed to Guiseppe Marotta (Director General at Juve):

Giuseppe Marotta: "We went for Berbatov after he said no to Fiorentina. He chose Fulham because he wants to stay in England."

http://translate.google.se/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.calcionews24.com%2Fjuventus-marotta-su-berbatov-contattato-solo-dopo-il-no-alla-fiorentina-262450.html (http://translate.google.se/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.calcionews24.com%2Fjuventus-marotta-su-berbatov-contattato-solo-dopo-il-no-alla-fiorentina-262450.html)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Willard on August 29, 2012, 09:59:37 PM
Marvellous! Wheel him in!

Erik Nevland's replacement is arriving...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cebu on August 29, 2012, 10:00:04 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on August 29, 2012, 09:52:37 PM
Hmmmm, remember earlier in this thread that I said he was a luxury because he needed a Keane to do his running for him? It occurs to me that Petric might be just the guy he needs.

This is becoming interesting.

Don't worry HD, Sidwell will do enough running to satisfy that need ...    :dft012:
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: horse1031 on August 29, 2012, 10:05:35 PM
Fiorentina are NOT happy

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1146058/man-united's-dimitar-set-to-join-fulham-and-snub-juventus?&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1146058/man-united's-dimitar-set-to-join-fulham-and-snub-juventus?&cc=5901)
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His actions have incensed the Viola, who published the following press release late on Wednesday evening: "ACF Fiorentina announces that it missed the acquisition of the player Dimitar Berbatov after we had reached an agreement with Manchester United and a verbal understanding with the player on a contract.

"During today the English club had granted him written permission to travel to Florence for a medical and to sign a contract. The player - accompanied by his agent - embarked on a flight to Florence with tickets paid for by the club.

"But the player never arrived in Florence because of reckless and arrogant actions of other clubs which have nothing to do with the values of honesty, fair play and sporting ethics which lie beyond the boundaries of loyalty.

"As for the player, notwithstanding his characteristics and technical merit, at this point we are happy that he did not come to Fiorentina as he is not worthy of our city, our shirt and the values it represents."
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mr-ska on August 29, 2012, 10:07:38 PM
juve president has confirmed... Bervatov has rejected juve...  for fulham...  
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: bucksfulham on August 29, 2012, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: Senior Supporter on August 29, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
The reported wage figure seems too good to be true, 1.8m equates to 35 grand a week (plus bonuses) ... but are they talking Euros, in which case it is even better.
If it's Italy that the story's from it's Euros. It's less than £28k per week
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:16:32 PM
Real reason y Berbatov is to sign for fulham -
He is too lazy to leave the country
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: God The Mechanic on August 29, 2012, 10:18:08 PM
If he wants to be lazy and be the joint top scorer in the country again, will anyone mind?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: fulhamben on August 29, 2012, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 29, 2012, 09:34:47 PM
Ruiz is actually the player who runs the most miles (dunno if that's grammatically correct) for us during matches.
that makes a change :)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Max Headroom on August 29, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
Yes please!!!!!!!!

Last two seasons 44 league games 27 goals....

Sometimes SAF has no idea.... Tevez and berbatov
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: horse1031 on August 29, 2012, 10:22:11 PM
my only thing is that if he screwed over Fiorentina and then Juve, are we next??
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:22:51 PM
Was only jesting Mate - I actually would be excited about this move. Fingers crossed its legit and a couple more would be lovely
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:24:21 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on August 29, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
Yes please!!!!!!!!

Last two seasons 44 league games 27 goals....

Sometimes SAF has no idea.... Tevez and berbatov

Here is to hoping its been signed cos if the figures are correct there are bound to be other prem teams interested eg Newcastle
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: God The Mechanic on August 29, 2012, 10:27:04 PM
Quote from: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:22:51 PM
Was only jesting Mate - I actually would be excited about this move. Fingers crossed its legit and a couple more would be lovely

I don't think anyone could take that seriously ;)  but it is something that's often thrown at him.  And the fact that he only scores goal against rubbish teams that don't matter, excluding the 7 (I think) winners he scored two seasons back.  If he wants to do that again I doubt anyone would mind.

Ignoring stats and crap like that, on form he is a truly GLORIOUS footballer to watch.  Flick and tricks between him and Ruiz would be majestic.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cebu on August 29, 2012, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:24:21 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on August 29, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
Yes please!!!!!!!!

Last two seasons 44 league games 27 goals....

Sometimes SAF has no idea.... Tevez and berbatov

Here is to hoping its been signed cos if the figures are correct there are bound to be other prem teams interested eg Newcastle

Would he and his family prefer Newcastle to London?  I hope not.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Oiseau on August 29, 2012, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:16:32 PM
Real reason y Berbatov is to sign for fulham -
He is too lazy to leave the country

Apparently his Mrs. doesn't want to leave England.

Argh, I'm trying not to believe any gossip until it's confirmed for my own sanity. It's going to be tough.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:33:47 PM
U wou
Quote from: cebu on August 29, 2012, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:24:21 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on August 29, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
Yes please!!!!!!!!

Last two seasons 44 league games 27 goals....

Sometimes SAF has no idea.... Tevez and berbatov

Here is to hoping its been signed cos if the figures are correct there are bound to be other prem teams interested eg Newcastle

Would he and his family prefer Newcastle to London?  I hope not.

U would like to think not but if it is true he wants to stay in England they have more money and Europe. I want this tied up ASAP along with a couple more...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ElissonSnygg on August 29, 2012, 10:34:25 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11681/8032163/Berbatov-snubs-Italian-duo (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11681/8032163/Berbatov-snubs-Italian-duo)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: itombomb on August 29, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on August 29, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
Yes please!!!!!!!!

Last two seasons 44 league games 27 goals....

Sometimes SAF has no idea.... Tevez and berbatov
Ferguson has an idea, but Berba doesn't fit to the United attacking system, which is all about speed and those flick ons to guys making advanced runs. They do very little patiently in the final 3rd (which is one of the reasons Rooney never developed into that creative player who would play the easy ball when it wasn't on).
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: zander on August 29, 2012, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: Oiseau on August 29, 2012, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:16:32 PM
Real reason y Berbatov is to sign for fulham -
He is too lazy to leave the country

Apparently his Mrs. doesn't want to leave England.

Argh, I'm trying not to believe any gossip until it's confirmed for my own sanity. It's going to be tough.

Yeah I think he's jumped at the chance to stay here. Gazetta have got a fair bit on this and there is no way he'll be heading to Juve or Fiorentina, especially the later given their press release.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Mike on August 29, 2012, 10:40:42 PM
I would be tempted to get a driver to meet Berbatov myself to make sure he arrives at the right football ground, as he keeps getting lost. Hate him to end up at QPR.

Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: itombomb on August 29, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on August 29, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
Yes please!!!!!!!!

Last two seasons 44 league games 27 goals....

Sometimes SAF has no idea.... Tevez and berbatov
Ferguson has an idea, but Berba doesn't fit to the United attacking system, which is all about speed and those flick ons to guys making advanced runs. They do very little patiently in the final 3rd (which is one of the reasons Rooney never developed into that creative player who would play the easy ball when it wasn't on).

Agree 100% I always felt Berba would suite a Liverpool side where the build seems slower compared to a man united or Arsenal. The ONLY thing that he does do that can be frustrating is when he receives the ball his 1st instinct seems to be to go away from goal.....
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: God The Mechanic on August 29, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: itombomb on August 29, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on August 29, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
Yes please!!!!!!!!

Last two seasons 44 league games 27 goals....

Sometimes SAF has no idea.... Tevez and berbatov
Ferguson has an idea, but Berba doesn't fit to the United attacking system, which is all about speed and those flick ons to guys making advanced runs. They do very little patiently in the final 3rd (which is one of the reasons Rooney never developed into that creative player who would play the easy ball when it wasn't on).

Agree 100% I always felt Berba would suite a Liverpool side where the build seems slower compared to a man united or Arsenal. The ONLY thing that he does do that can be frustrating is when he receives the ball his 1st instinct seems to be to go away from goal.....

That first instinct is usually into space.  What's the point going forwards and losing the ball if you can go back, keep it and try and find an opening?  He's an intelligent footballer, rather than one who acts purely impulsively.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:50:02 PM
Quote from: God The Mechanic on August 29, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: itombomb on August 29, 2012, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on August 29, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
Yes please!!!!!!!!

Last two seasons 44 league games 27 goals....

Sometimes SAF has no idea.... Tevez and berbatov
Ferguson has an idea, but Berba doesn't fit to the United attacking system, which is all about speed and those flick ons to guys making advanced runs. They do very little patiently in the final 3rd (which is one of the reasons Rooney never developed into that creative player who would play the easy ball when it wasn't on).

Agree 100% I always felt Berba would suite a Liverpool side where the build seems slower compared to a man united or Arsenal. The ONLY thing that he does do that can be frustrating is when he receives the ball his 1st instinct seems to be to go away from goal.....

That first instinct is usually into space.  What's the point going forwards and losing the ball if you can go back, keep it and try and find an opening?  He's an intelligent footballer, rather than one who acts purely impulsively.

Hence me saying it CAN be frustrating. I am referring to the times he is through and decides to come away from goal instead of being more direct. Similar to Scott Parker doing a pirouette everytime he traps the ball.... Frustrating when there is a quick pass on on 20 yards to run into
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: itombomb on August 29, 2012, 11:05:56 PM
Quote from: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:50:02 PMHence me saying it CAN be frustrating. I am referring to the times he is through and decides to come away from goal instead of being more direct. Similar to Scott Parker doing a pirouette everytime he traps the ball.... Frustrating when there is a quick pass on on 20 yards to run into
Parker does those because he can only use one foot and he isn't quick enough to create separation from his opponent (Barry does them a lot too).
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Ordar on August 29, 2012, 11:06:38 PM
If we sign Berbatov it will be amazing. Two 30m+ players in our starting line up. Jesus!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: hopper on August 29, 2012, 11:08:18 PM
story has legs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9507278/Manchester-United-striker-Dimitar-Berbatov-could-return-to-London-with-Fulham-after-late-bid-by-Martin-Jol.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9507278/Manchester-United-striker-Dimitar-Berbatov-could-return-to-London-with-Fulham-after-late-bid-by-Martin-Jol.html)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 11:09:02 PM
Quote from: itombomb on August 29, 2012, 11:05:56 PM
Quote from: craig10 on August 29, 2012, 10:50:02 PMHence me saying it CAN be frustrating. I am referring to the times he is through and decides to come away from goal instead of being more direct. Similar to Scott Parker doing a pirouette everytime he traps the ball.... Frustrating when there is a quick pass on on 20 yards to run into
Parker does those because he can only use one foot and he isn't quick enough to create separation from his opponent (Barry does them a lot too).

Horrible to see ad cant help but piss myself everytime he touches the ball you know he will do it
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcitaly on August 29, 2012, 11:32:18 PM
now most italian website says he's going to Fulham,I hate football rumours,especially from italian newspapers!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: YankeeJim on August 29, 2012, 11:38:02 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on August 29, 2012, 10:05:35 PM
Fiorentina are NOT happy

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1146058/man-united's-dimitar-set-to-join-fulham-and-snub-juventus?&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1146058/man-united's-dimitar-set-to-join-fulham-and-snub-juventus?&cc=5901)
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His actions have incensed the Viola, who published the following press release late on Wednesday evening: "ACF Fiorentina announces that it missed the acquisition of the player Dimitar Berbatov after we had reached an agreement with Manchester United and a verbal understanding with the player on a contract.

"During today the English club had granted him written permission to travel to Florence for a medical and to sign a contract. The player - accompanied by his agent - embarked on a flight to Florence with tickets paid for by the club.

"But the player never arrived in Florence because of reckless and arrogant actions of other clubs which have nothing to do with the values of honesty, fair play and sporting ethics which lie beyond the boundaries of loyalty.

"As for the player, notwithstanding his characteristics and technical merit, at this point we are happy that he did not come to Fiorentina as he is not worthy of our city, our shirt and the values it represents."

An Italian football team talking about intergity....what's next, an end to the diving & whining?
Wonders will never cease.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: CH FFC on August 30, 2012, 12:35:02 AM
I like it, hope there is genuine interest on his part.  For those that say he is "lazy" or lacks a good work ethic, honestly, I do not see it.  If you watch him he seems to be "efficient" with his work, and really puts in an effort when it counts.  He definitely does not run as much as some, but with his goal scoring record he seems to get in the right spot without.

In the least, I feel this is in the right direction.  At the price it is great business.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Ordar on August 30, 2012, 12:47:26 AM
How can anyone be underwhelmed by this. Seriously. Berbatov is class. He was the PL top scorer a couple years ago, and hardly played.

It may not solve our cm issue, but bloody hell would it be a statement of intent is we wrap it up before the chaos of Friday
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Walsh on August 30, 2012, 01:48:52 AM
Was Martin Jol manager of Tottenham when Berbatov was there? Maybe Berbatov likes Martin Jol and think's he can shine again.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Luke on August 30, 2012, 01:50:49 AM
He was indeed:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/04/article-2069772-05C88A5B0000044D-807_468x396.jpg)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Walsh on August 30, 2012, 01:53:20 AM
Quote from: Luke on August 30, 2012, 01:50:49 AM
He was indeed:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/04/article-2069772-05C88A5B0000044D-807_468x396.jpg)

that's the happiest I have ever seen Jol.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: f5shooter on August 30, 2012, 02:57:02 AM
Quote from: Walsh on August 30, 2012, 01:53:20 AM
Quote from: Luke on August 30, 2012, 01:50:49 AM
He was indeed:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/04/article-2069772-05C88A5B0000044D-807_468x396.jpg)

that's the happiest I have ever seen Jol.

You should see him at a buffet....
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Yarden on August 30, 2012, 03:03:34 AM
Jol was the one that singed Berbatov to Spurs if i remember correct. Would be an awesome signing, firngers crossed!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Patterson on August 30, 2012, 03:04:42 AM
Who's gonna say we don't have ambition...

I don't get some of our fans.  Surely you don't expect us to hold on to footballers who are entering their primes (or in them) and fight off huge bids and wage offers.  We however are good enough that footballers slightly past their prime consider us a viable option.  I know this doesn't sound very impressive, but had I told you 2 years ago that we'd be losing Dempsey and Dembele but we would have a chance to sign Dimitar Berbatov, you'd have laughed at the suggestion.

Say what you will about Berbatov's specifics as a player, but he's CLEARLY class and a huge name signing.  What I like most about going after him in particular is that I think we'll get him at a huge cut rate and on relatively reasonable wages.  It's not going after any big name for the sake of it...it's going after the right big name at the right time in his career.

This is a club on the way up despite what some may think.  I'm convinced of this.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Bradstow on August 30, 2012, 06:45:39 AM
Never stopped scoring for fun despite being under used by Manure. One of the most intelligently gifted forwards of recent years. He has never had to work hard - he lets the ball do that job. Would be a treamendous consolation for the lose of Mousa if he would come here.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: west kowloon white on August 30, 2012, 09:45:52 AM
Lazy??Proven and at less than half the price of Rhodes,money to spare for one of Jol's gems....can't help thinking deal will be hi-jacked by a "bigger" club.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: jelmo on August 30, 2012, 09:48:54 AM
Yeah, we need to push this one through quicker than we usually do (NHS level waiting times for our medicals) and sign up 'Count Berbula' before a club such as QPR come around and offer him 100k a week or something stupid.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Oiseau on August 30, 2012, 09:56:09 AM
Quote from: Luke on August 30, 2012, 01:50:49 AM
He was indeed:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/04/article-2069772-05C88A5B0000044D-807_468x396.jpg)

They fell out horribly when Berbatov wanted to leave. Berbatov even refused to train with Jol from what I've heard...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Andy_M on August 30, 2012, 09:58:24 AM
Imagine if Berba and Ruiz could get on the same wave length!!

Ruiz's passing/eye for a pass with Berba's first touch and finishing .... could be absolute magic!!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:03:25 AM
I dont see how buying a 30 plus year old and selling our best centre mid we have had for a very very long time as a club going forward. Going completely againsty the lowering of the average age of the team which was the point in the first place. If that is an out of place fact and im talking nonsense then you need to go back to primary school fella. I am speaking facts and you dont like it and have to resort to making personal attacks. Its just a shame i cant post on here what i think of you.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Lighthouse on August 30, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
We have two forwards in the whole squad plus Trotta. We have three wide players, including two kids. We have a shortage of creative midfielders. Players have moved on because they are at the end of their best days. We have brought in players who are at the end of their best days. Plus Rodders.

The selling of Dembele IS NOT the problem. It frees up money. But with a 40 odd hours to go our squad is painfully thin. We are an established Prem Side. A shame we are left in the situation. It does show a lack of planning AND ambition. Hoping the kids work in the long run is a gamble.

This is a pivotal moment in our Prem lives. It should never have come to this.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2012, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:03:25 AM
I dont see how buying a 30 plus year old and selling our best centre mid we have had for a very very long time as a club going forward. Going completely againsty the lowering of the average age of the team which was the point in the first place. If that is an out of place fact and im talking nonsense then you need to go back to primary school fella. I am speaking facts and you dont like it and have to resort to making personal attacks. Its just a shame i cant post on here what i think of you.

It is out of place because it is completely ignoring the circumstances.

First you say Berbatov is a step back from Zamora, which is proven hilariously false.

Then you equate losing Moussa and signing Berbatov - two different situtations and Berbatov is not the replacement.

Moussa had one year left on his contract. We got a reported £19m + add ons for him. What did you want the club to do, reinvest the money or let him go for free next summer. He was not signing a contract and wanted to leave (but was happy to play another year here).

If you want to PM me your personal feelings, feel free.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FFC1987 on August 30, 2012, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:03:25 AM
I dont see how buying a 30 plus year old and selling our best centre mid we have had for a very very long time as a club going forward. Going completely againsty the lowering of the average age of the team which was the point in the first place. If that is an out of place fact and im talking nonsense then you need to go back to primary school fella. I am speaking facts and you dont like it and have to resort to making personal attacks. Its just a shame i cant post on here what i think of you.

Read before my comment, you didn't post fact and we have potentially brought in a proven goalscorer fron Manchester United and were horribly quoting that Zamora had outscored him. You were proven wrong on this account. IE head to head Zamora has never outscored. 'At least Zamora is playing for QPR' - Counter argument, Zamora wouldn't even get into United reserves bench so theres the quality difference and as for the age, it has gone from 31 to 29 which is a prime playing age.

If you would just scroll up and stop playing the victim card you could of saved yourself the embarressment. Post what you think, but once proven wrong on this level, stand down and acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, someone on this board is a little more clued up on certain things. 'Go back to primary school' Sums you up pal, you haven't used one stat to back your Zamora case, thats basic primary stuff if ever I saw it. Look up the basics on Objective and Subjective arguments fella and come back with a more constructive argument.

AlFayedschequebook Hook line and sinker, Checkmate.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: LBNo11 on August 30, 2012, 10:14:27 AM
...excuse me asking, but why is mikie a WUM just because he has strong opinions that may differ from others. As long as he does not throw insults or swear there is nothing he is doing wrong.

Respect his views even if you don't agree with them - and that should be mutual.

Thanks...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 10:15:17 AM
Can I point out Bobby Zamora is older (let alone not as good) as Berba
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2012, 10:15:34 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
It does show a lack of planning AND ambition. Hoping the kids work in the long run is a gamble.

How else are the kids meant to develop if they aren't given a chance? And how often are they going to get a chance if we reinvest the Dembele money in first team players who'll expect to play before them? Maybe Jol believes he's seen enough in Frei and Kacaniklic to actually give them a regular starting spot?

Jol always stated he wanted to bring the youth through, and he's sticking to his word.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2012, 10:16:31 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
We have two forwards in the whole squad plus Trotta. We have three wide players, including two kids. We have a shortage of creative midfielders. Players have moved on because they are at the end of their best days. We have brought in players who are at the end of their best days. Plus Rodders.

The selling of Dembele IS NOT the problem. It frees up money. But with a 40 odd hours to go our squad is painfully thin. We are an established Prem Side. A shame we are left in the situation. It does show a lack of planning AND ambition. Hoping the kids work in the long run is a gamble.

This is a pivotal moment in our Prem lives. It should never have come to this.

I suggest you have a look at this: http://cravencottagenewsround.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/what-are-we-lacking-then/ (http://cravencottagenewsround.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/what-are-we-lacking-then/)

We do need players, but the whole 'squad is paper thin' thing is being a tad overplayed.

Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Adam87 on August 30, 2012, 10:18:06 AM
you just no QPRHAHA are going to put in a bid today......i tell you what if we lose out to them for him i dont think i could feel any worse. Hopefully they have enough strikers now. Pray the deal goes through. come on fulham.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2012, 10:18:48 AM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2012, 10:16:31 AM
I suggest you have a look at this: http://cravencottagenewsround.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/what-are-we-lacking-then/ (http://cravencottagenewsround.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/what-are-we-lacking-then/)

We do need players, but the whole 'squad is paper thin' thing is being a tad overplayed.

Agreed! I can also recommend taking a look here http://www.fulhamfc.com/the-teams/first-team (http://www.fulhamfc.com/the-teams/first-team)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:19:37 AM
Zamora is playing regular prem football. Berbatov is not. FACT... We offloaded Zamora age etc and go for another 30 plus year old. How is that building for the future???

A reported 19million plus add ons and you know that as a fact do you????? hilarious...

Dembele never signed a new contract because he was never offered one that was worthy of signing. And yet we are willing to pay the wages of a 30 plus year old player??? We may as well sign up Andy Cole again...


And if you want to air your dirty washing we will do it here in public for all to see.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:20:51 AM
Thankyou LB.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FFC1987 on August 30, 2012, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:19:37 AM
Zamora is playing regular prem football. Berbatov is not. FACT... We offloaded Zamora age etc and go for another 30 plus year old. How is that building for the future???

A reported 19million plus add ons and you know that as a fact do you????? hilarious...

Dembele never signed a new contract because he was never offered one that was worthy of signing. And yet we are willing to pay the wages of a 30 plus year old player??? We may as well sign up Andy Cole again...


And if you want to air your dirty washing we will do it here in public for all to see.

Where do you start with this level of ignorance.....
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Lighthouse on August 30, 2012, 10:22:11 AM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 30, 2012, 10:15:34 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2012, 10:08:54 AM
It does show a lack of planning AND ambition. Hoping the kids work in the long run is a gamble.

How else are the kids meant to develop if they aren't given a chance? And how often are they going to get a chance if we reinvest the Dembele money in first team players who'll expect to play before them? Maybe Jol believes he's seen enough in Frei and Kacaniklic to actually give them a regular starting spot?

Jol always stated he wanted to bring the youth through, and he's sticking to his word.

You do it slowly. By bringing in players too quickly you damage the prospects if they are forced to play while being not ready for the top league. Kaka is not going to last a season which is why we are scrambling for reinforcments. Trotta is not yet ready to take on Prem defences. Being given a chance and being forced to play before you are ready and you are the only available player. Are two very different things.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:22:31 AM
You cannot judge Berba against Zamora simply because they have not both played the same number of games or prem minutes. Lets see what Berba does for us and then you make that judgement and tell me that i am wrong.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 30, 2012, 10:24:07 AM
Quote from: Adam87 on August 30, 2012, 10:18:06 AM
you just no QPRHAHA are going to put in a bid today......i tell you what if we lose out to them for him i dont think i could feel any worse. Hopefully they have enough strikers now. Pray the deal goes through. come on fulham.

I know, its inevitable isnt it? Im just waiting to go onto twitter to see QPR hijack Berbatov move
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:22:31 AM
You cannot judge Berba against Zamora simply because they have not both played the same number of games or prem minutes. Lets see what Berba does for us and then you make that judgement and tell me that i am wrong.

Ur right u can't compare BZ has played 100 more games and scored less goals
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2012, 10:27:14 AM
Quote from: LBNo11 on August 30, 2012, 10:14:27 AM
...excuse me asking, but why is mikie a WUM just because he has strong opinions that may differ from others. As long as he does not throw insults or swear there is nothing he is doing wrong.

Respect his views even if you don't agree with them - and that should be mutual.

Thanks...

To be honest, if you can't see what is happening I worry for the board.

The influx of 'Offal' posters has been a bit bumpy and if the board continues on its downward trajectory I worry.

I have disagreed with many posters on here before but this guy takes the buscuit.

We have a choice to make - we can descend into knee jerk reactions based on nothing or continue on the previous path - relatively constructive arguments.

The mods have a choice to make here.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2012, 10:27:47 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 30, 2012, 10:22:11 AM
You do it slowly. By bringing in players too quickly you damage the prospects if they are forced to play while being not ready for the top league. Kaka is not going to last a season which is why we are scrambling for reinforcments. Trotta is not yet ready to take on Prem defences. Being given a chance and being forced to play before you are ready and you are the only available player. Are two very different things.

I agree. But like I said, maybe Jol believes he's seen enough. Kaka and Frei both made several appearances last season, perhaps that was Jol easing them in. You have to draw a line and take a chance at some point otherwise you risk losing them, and Frei especially is not a talent I want us to risk losing.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
I can actually see where ur coming from mate but u have to be realistic. I would love pato, balotelli etc (young class strikers) but it won't happen so losing AJ, Bobby Z for Rodellaga and (fingers crossed) Berba I am happy
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FFC1987 on August 30, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
I can actually see where ur coming from mate but u have to be realistic. I would love pato, balotelli etc (young class strikers) but it won't happen so losing AJ, Bobby Z for Rodellaga and (fingers crossed) Berba I am happy
And Petric.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FFC1987 on August 30, 2012, 10:29:35 AM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2012, 10:27:14 AM
Quote from: LBNo11 on August 30, 2012, 10:14:27 AM
...excuse me asking, but why is mikie a WUM just because he has strong opinions that may differ from others. As long as he does not throw insults or swear there is nothing he is doing wrong.

Respect his views even if you don't agree with them - and that should be mutual.

Thanks...

To be honest, if you can't see what is happening I worry for the board.

The influx of 'Offal' posters has been a bit bumpy and if the board continues on its downward trajectory I worry.

I have disagreed with many posters on here before but this guy takes the buscuit.

We have a choice to make - we can descend into knee jerk reactions based on nothing or continue on the previous path - relatively constructive arguments.

The mods have a choice to make here.

Hear Hear.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: zzamora on August 30, 2012, 10:30:16 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:22:31 AM
You cannot judge Berba against Zamora simply because they have not both played the same number of games or prem minutes. Lets see what Berba does for us and then you make that judgement and tell me that i am wrong.

Your right. Zamora has played MORE games and scored LESS goals than Berba.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FFC1987 on August 30, 2012, 10:32:40 AM
Quote from: ddeuce on August 30, 2012, 10:30:16 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:22:31 AM
You cannot judge Berba against Zamora simply because they have not both played the same number of games or prem minutes. Lets see what Berba does for us and then you make that judgement and tell me that i am wrong.

Your right. Zamora has played MORE games and scored LESS goals than Berba.

Otherwise, your spot on and 'factually' correct. If this is an argument based on fact, I really do need to go to primary school as I'm missing the point.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
ha thats laughable Craig. At least hes not a bench warmer. And i dont remember too many comments on here slating Zamora when he was scoring goals for us.

I apologise for not being a statistical nut. I enjoy football for the game not the statistics. With Zamora in the team we finished 7th in the prem and got to a europa cup final. Lets see what we do with Berbatov then eh???

And i never stated that Berbatov was dembeles replacement so Fayeds chequebook should read my posts properly before criticiseing. All i said was that we sold on our best player and are now going for a 30 plus year old which is against the grain of what we were told with going for a younger team.

Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: SKSW6 on August 30, 2012, 10:36:41 AM
Along with AFC's breakdown of goals from the last two seasons, Zamora was bench warming first game of the season for QPR. Berbatov was bench warming for a team which was a goal away from winning the premiership last season. How do you not see the difference between United and QPR?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 10:37:42 AM
If u watch football and not stats u must see Berba is a better player than BZ???

As I stated I agree with u to a degree but we are not a club that can get proven (at this level) young strikers so we have to gamble on unknown youth. This is fine but as a previous poster said u can't throw them in at the deep end so having a Berba in there to play and train with is very good for the younger up and coming players. I just feel Berba brings more to the team, squad, dressing room and club than BZ would have
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Classic94 on August 30, 2012, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
ha thats laughable Craig. At least hes not a bench warmer. And i dont remember too many comments on here slating Zamora when he was scoring goals for us.

I apologise for not being a statistical nut. I enjoy football for the game not the statistics. With Zamora in the team we finished 7th in the prem and got to a europa cup final. Lets see what we do with Berbatov then eh???

And i never stated that Berbatov was dembeles replacement so Fayeds chequebook should read my posts properly before criticiseing. All i said was that we sold on our best player and are now going for a 30 plus year old which is against the grain of what we were told with going for a younger team.



Do you ever have anything positive to say? Berbatov would be a coup for Fulham - proven goalscorer at the highest level.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: PokerMatt on August 30, 2012, 10:43:48 AM
What I hope from Berba is that his goals for United were as much his work as that of the team around him. From what I've seen of him (which is more my memories of when he actually played) he can create his own chances (which will be important without Moose) but he has that touch of Cantona about him, where he won't move for a pass if it's not where he expects it. I think that's where lazy tag comes from, he knows his own ability and doesn't feel he should use his energy chasing lost causes.. not that that's necessarily a good thing for a hard-working squad.

He was magnificent at Leverkusen and I think he got about 1 in 3 at Spurs, with probably similar players around him that we have now.

If the 80k that's banded about is true then I don't think he'll come. I don't see us paying him double what anyone else is on.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: zzamora on August 30, 2012, 10:44:54 AM
Quote from: Classic94 on August 30, 2012, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
ha thats laughable Craig. At least hes not a bench warmer. And i dont remember too many comments on here slating Zamora when he was scoring goals for us.

I apologise for not being a statistical nut. I enjoy football for the game not the statistics. With Zamora in the team we finished 7th in the prem and got to a europa cup final. Lets see what we do with Berbatov then eh???

And i never stated that Berbatov was dembeles replacement so Fayeds chequebook should read my posts properly before criticiseing. All i said was that we sold on our best player and are now going for a 30 plus year old which is against the grain of what we were told with going for a younger team.



Do you ever have anything positive to say? Berbatov would be a coup for Fulham - proven goalscorer at the highest level.

Yeah but when has he ever been the Premier Leagues highest goalscorer in a season? When has he ever showed immense flair, skill and talent? When has he ever represented Spurs and United? When has he ever played in the Champions League?

He's half the player Zamora is!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:49:08 AM
We pass on the the 7th placed finish and europa cup run year then shall we???

And Berbatov was also not making the bench during that time and not taking part in a team that was a goal away from winning the prem last season. Statistically speaking for the amount of games he played and points Man U gained from him playing they would have been what 3rd from bottom from all the games he took part in???

Lets judge him on what he does for Fulham before personally attacking me and my opinions.

At the moment we only have two statues in the ground and quite frankly one is extremely embarassing. Its a real shame that we couldnt have kept Dembele...

Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:50:52 AM
yeah And from the last two years all from the bench..
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:52:07 AM
And i will say it again... ANDY COLE... ring any bells...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:52:52 AM
Jordan Rhodes to Blackburn... great signing for them.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 10:53:59 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:52:07 AM
And i will say it again... ANDY COLE... ring any bells...

U mean the 2nd top scorer in prem of all time?? I remember him. He was better than bobby z too lol
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: MJG on August 30, 2012, 10:54:38 AM
Cottage Corner refugee alert.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
Thats right. Came back to Fulham and his statistics dropped right off. Great to have in the dressing room though... No offence Andy if you reading this...pmsl
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:52:52 AM
Jordan Rhodes to Blackburn... great signing for them.

Hope he does well but if the rumoured 8million rising to 10million is true (not saying it is) that's a huge gamble. This year is strange better players going for lesser sums than a lot of unproven players
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 10:58:13 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
Thats right. Came back to Fulham and his statistics dropped right off. Great to have in the dressing room though... No offence Andy if you reading this...pmsl

Andy cole is a completely different player in style to Berba. Berba is more in the mould of teddy sherringham. U would find the goals will dry up with an Andy cole when he goes from a counter attacking/fast attacking side to slower in build up type player and his pace starts to vanish
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: zzamora on August 30, 2012, 10:59:11 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:49:08 AM
We pass on the the 7th placed finish and europa cup run year then shall we???

And Berbatov was also not making the bench during that time and not taking part in a team that was a goal away from winning the prem last season. Statistically speaking for the amount of games he played and points Man U gained from him playing they would have been what 3rd from bottom from all the games he took part in???

Lets judge him on what he does for Fulham before personally attacking me and my opinions.

At the moment we only have two statues in the ground and quite frankly one is extremely embarassing. Its a real shame that we couldnt have kept Dembele...



Fine. Lets compare seasons when we finished 7th and Berbatov was playing in the league (which was 2008-09). Berbatov: 31 games, 9 goals. Zamora, 35 games 2 goals. Wow.

2009-10 (Zamora's best season of his career). Berbatov: 33 games, 12 goals. Zamora (in his BEST season) 8 goals in 27 games.

Lots of United fans are annoyed that Berbatov didn't play, they say that if he had, it would have been the difference between them and city.

Berbatov has constantly outperformed Zamora in every department of football- first touch, finishing as well as many others.

Your opinions are farcical and wrong- you support Fulham (you say at least) but you run them down, refuse to back the manager and the management's decisions and still expect that your appreciated as a fan? A fan is in the long run- they don't run the club down, they back their team and manager regardless of what they might think. We've just come off a season with our second highest points tally (beaten by 1) in a much harder league than it was in 08-09, despite practically playing without a consistent striker for the whole year. Jol has transitioned us to a side who play free flowing football, that scores, and wins in a classy way.

If that is you in you're picture, I hope your son can see the light and realize that perhaps, the management and Jol (paid to do their jobs) are doing the best thing for the club and that we should back them at all times (until it becomes clear that its not working).

Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:59:42 AM
Teddy Sheringham???? what planet are you from... lol
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: zzamora on August 30, 2012, 11:00:08 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:52:07 AM
And i will say it again... ANDY COLE... ring any bells...

Andy Cole spent one season at Fulham, scoring 12 goals in 31 games.

I'd say that's pretty good, wouldnt you?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2012, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: PokerMatt on August 30, 2012, 10:43:48 AM
If the 80k that's banded about is true then I don't think he'll come. I don't see us paying him double what anyone else is on.

If you believe what the papers are reporting, the Fiorentina offer (when converted from Euros) was about £2m a year, which equates to £40k a week - not at all beyond us.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: SKSW6 on August 30, 2012, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:59:42 AM
Teddy Sheringham???? what planet are you from... lol

I thought you said not to attack people's personal opinions?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 11:01:59 AM
I'm starting to think this guy is my mrs now on the laptop cos he argues just like her  :dead horse:
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FFC4Life on August 30, 2012, 11:02:23 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
Thats right. Came back to Fulham and his statistics dropped right off. Great to have in the dressing room though... No offence Andy if you reading this...pmsl

Andy Cole scored 12 Premier League goals for us in his one season back at the club - more than Bobby ever scored for us in a league season.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 11:03:24 AM
Quote from: SKSW6 on August 30, 2012, 11:01:30 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:59:42 AM
Teddy Sheringham???? what planet are you from... lol



I thought you said not to attack people's personal opinions?

Sherringham to me is similar to Berba - good finisher, great 1st touch, no pace, top notch footballing brain. But ur right I haven't got a clue

If Berba uses that brain to score 10 and assist 10 I would be more than delighted
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FFC1987 on August 30, 2012, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: FFC4Life on August 30, 2012, 11:02:23 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
Thats right. Came back to Fulham and his statistics dropped right off. Great to have in the dressing room though... No offence Andy if you reading this...pmsl

Andy Cole scored 12 Premier League goals for us in his one season back at the club - more than Bobby ever scored for us in a league season.

Cole, wasn't he our top scorer? Talk about clutching at straws for arguments....
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Lighthouse on August 30, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
Berbatov wants to stay in England. But he will wait until the last minute in case a better offer from a bigger club comes in. It will be a mistake for us to hang on without bringing in somebody else up front.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: LRCN on August 30, 2012, 11:16:21 AM
mikie, use constructive duductions to formulate an argument. if you continue to call people clowns, ask what planet people are on and offer one line sentences we will impose sanctions on your account

will split this thread and move it to berbatov's. because this has nothing to do with dickson etuhu
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: MasterHaynes on August 30, 2012, 11:19:13 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
ha thats laughable Craig. At least hes not a bench warmer. And i dont remember too many comments on here slating Zamora when he was scoring goals for us.

I apologise for not being a statistical nut. I enjoy football for the game not the statistics. With Zamora in the team we finished 7th in the prem and got to a europa cup final. Lets see what we do with Berbatov then eh???

And i never stated that Berbatov was dembeles replacement so Fayeds chequebook should read my posts properly before criticiseing. All i said was that we sold on our best player and are now going for a 30 plus year old which is against the grain of what we were told with going for a younger team.


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Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
ha thats laughable Craig. At least hes not a bench warmer. And i dont remember too many comments on here slating Zamora when he was scoring goals for us.

I apologise for not being a statistical nut. I enjoy football for the game not the statistics. With Zamora in the team we finished 7th in the prem and got to a europa cup final. Lets see what we do with Berbatov then eh???

And I never stated that Berbatov was dembeles replacement so Fayeds chequebook should read my posts properly before criticiseing. All i said was that we sold on our best player and are now going for a 30 plus year old which is against the grain of what we were told with going for a younger team.


So Zamorra did it all by himself that season? You regularly heard groans from the crowd when he missed  a sitter or screwed up a simple pass. We were lucky that AJ played quite a lot that season and scored many more goals and made more assists than Zamorra. That summer we nearly shifted Zamorra off to Hull and most of us were hoping he would go so we could use the money and buy someone better.

At the start of his one and only best season (though injury prevented continuation of good form) he started where he left off , generating groans and mocking cheers when he shot into the crowd, then he scored, do you remember his hand to ear thing after he scored? You do remember what that was all about don't you?

Berbatov is a way better, more complete player than him.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: fulhamfan on August 30, 2012, 11:45:18 AM
the transfer fee is 3 million
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: whiteburp on August 30, 2012, 11:52:08 AM
i feel SAF did not use him because he had to build a team around him.i think we have a team waiting for this kind of player.as a player i like him he reminds me of allan clarke,a nonchalant,cool,calculated ,accurate striker.i hope so...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: King_Crud on August 30, 2012, 11:58:01 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:03:25 AM
If that is an out of place fact and im talking nonsense then you need to go back to primary school fella. I am speaking facts

Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:19:37 AM
Zamora is playing regular prem football. Berbatov is not. FACT...

Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
I apologise for not being a statistical nut.

But you love telling us the "FACTS", I thought they might include research and stats. You would not make a good scientist
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: westcliff white on August 30, 2012, 12:00:26 PM
if as some on the thread say berba could wait till the last minute then we should say we are not waiting till then as we need to get a player in. so if your happy with the terms come for the medical today or maybe you will have to spend at least another 6 months in utd's reserves.

we dont want to get caught with our pants down and end up with frazier campbell, who if we have 4 forwards will be 5th choice.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Swiss72 on August 30, 2012, 12:11:35 PM
Berbatov off to West Ham it seems. Betting suspended..... At least we will see him play on Saturday  fp.gif
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FFC1987 on August 30, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 30, 2012, 12:11:35 PM
Berbatov off to West Ham it seems. Betting suspended..... At least we will see him play on Saturday  fp.gif
Link?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Swiss72 on August 30, 2012, 12:14:23 PM
SkyBet. Some mention as well on TIFF.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FFC1987 on August 30, 2012, 12:15:57 PM
Wow, I'd be pretty dissappointed after all this if we lost out to the spam.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cottage cheese on August 30, 2012, 12:18:29 PM
money will be the only reason again. Hes played with Jol etc...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: westcliff white on August 30, 2012, 12:20:27 PM
west ham would be a strange choice, big sams route one with berba i just cant see him doing well with that. mJ should be on the phone to him saying come on dimi u know it makes sense
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Mr Fulham on August 30, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
oh well this would've been too good to be true. fp.gif
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 30, 2012, 12:23:16 PM
Its always the same
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: JIMMY D on August 30, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
Sad day number 2 :(
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Luke on August 30, 2012, 12:26:05 PM
If West Ham have been suspended how come we're still 1/3 to sign him? Could it be that they have pulled out? Or am I just being ridiculously optimistic?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: PokerMatt on August 30, 2012, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: Luke on August 30, 2012, 12:26:05 PM
If West Ham have been suspended how come we're still 1/3 to sign him? Could it be that they have pulled out? Or am I just being ridiculously optimistic?

I assume because we were heavy favourites before, and they still want to take people's money until it's confirmed.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Swiss72 on August 30, 2012, 12:28:42 PM
Just optimistic I guess. Look here below:

Jack Sullivan ‏@jsullivanwhu
We expect to sign a top, top, class striker today. My Dad doesn't give up.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cottage cheese on August 30, 2012, 12:30:33 PM
we just cant compete anymore!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 12:31:15 PM
imposing sanctions on my account because i have a different opinion to others is wrong lork. You fail to mention that i had personally been attacked/ name called from one or two other posters long before i criticised there opinions. See LB's post. With regards to the sheringham comment since when did he ever play for fulham anyway???
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: TonyGilroy on August 30, 2012, 12:34:10 PM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 12:31:15 PM
imposing sanctions on my account because i have a different opinion to others is wrong lork. You fail to mention that i had personally been attacked/ name called from one or two other posters long before i criticised there opinions. See LB's post. With regards to the sheringham comment since when did he ever play for fulham anyway???


You're irritating people. Maybe deliberately, maybe not.

I think you need to accept that users of this forum aren't allowed to do that.

You really need to tone things down if you want to keep posting. That's friendly advice.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Oakeshott on August 30, 2012, 12:35:19 PM
"money will be the only reason again [for Berb. going to West Ham]. Hes played with Jol etc..."

Precisely. If he goes to West Ham, the explanation may well be that he has played under Jol before.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Aaron on August 30, 2012, 12:35:52 PM
http://www.tribalfootball.com/node/3485941 (http://www.tribalfootball.com/node/3485941)

Sam says they can't afford him..  Ray of light still just about visible?

Annoyed at myself for going to be last night thinking this might actually happen.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Boggers on August 30, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
I think what Lork is getting at is the way you express your 'different opinions' with the name calling, negativity and antagonistic nature of your posts.

I'm not a regular on here but I do lurk a lot and I'm afraid a few times now your posts have stood out to me as not in the 'FOF spirit' of reasoned and-well argued discussion.

Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ClarksOriginal on August 30, 2012, 12:36:25 PM
Quote from: King_Crud on August 30, 2012, 11:58:01 AM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:03:25 AM
If that is an out of place fact and im talking nonsense then you need to go back to primary school fella. I am speaking facts

Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:19:37 AM
Zamora is playing regular prem football. Berbatov is not. FACT...

Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
I apologise for not being a statistical nut.

But you love telling us the "FACTS", I thought they might include research and stats. You would not make a good scientist

Quite possibly the worst 'facts' I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 12:39:23 PM
so its ok to be personally attacked on here but am not allowed to defend myself ???? perhaps its best that this board is reported for its biased views.

Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Burt on August 30, 2012, 12:40:29 PM
According to The Guardian (updated within the last hour) we are still in with a shout for Berbatov...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 30, 2012, 12:41:07 PM
i think ill turn my cpu off till sat
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: westcliff white on August 30, 2012, 12:43:04 PM
betting is normally suspended on the whole market not just one option within a market in my experience. that may be wrong but i tend to believe they dont just suspend on one option.

that would be similar to saying you cant bet on horse one but you can on the other 9, in a horse race and i have never seen that ever. also the odds on carroll going to west ham are dropping by the second
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Boggers on August 30, 2012, 12:44:07 PM
Sky Bet saying there has been a surge of bets on Andy Carroll to Wet Spam

I think you've got the right idea Rusty, my nerves can't take this!!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: zzamora on August 30, 2012, 12:44:18 PM
Quote from: cottage cheese on August 30, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: Oakeshott on August 30, 2012, 12:35:19 PM
"money will be the only reason again [for Berb. going to West Ham]. Hes played with Jol etc..."

Precisely. If he goes to West Ham, the explanation may well be that he has played under Jol before.

no nazi queen. My fault meant to say hes played under jol before so the only reason to why he would want to go hammers is money

Nazi Queen? wow. I've heard some insults but I think that is the most disgusting AND worst at the same time.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: DJinNJ on August 30, 2012, 12:46:25 PM
Mo
Quote from: Swiss72 on August 30, 2012, 12:28:42 PM
Just optimistic I guess. Look here below:

Jack Sullivan ‏@jsullivanwhu
We expect to sign a top, top, class striker today. My Dad doesn't give up.


More likely that this refers to Carroll. The "doesn't give up" part would suggest it's someone they've been linked with for awhile.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: LRCN on August 30, 2012, 12:46:41 PM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 12:31:15 PM
imposing sanctions on my account because i have a different opinion to others is wrong lork. You fail to mention that i had personally been attacked/ name called from one or two other posters long before i criticised there opinions. See LB's post. With regards to the sheringham comment since when did he ever play for fulham anyway???


as you say, ed dealt with those who attacked you.

clearly you post with an antagonistic, abrasive nature, and the replies are testimant to that. i haven't mentioned your opinion once, just your way of expressing it. i suggest you present your opinion, which of course is entirely valid, in a more measured manner if you wish to use fof as a platform to express it.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: LRCN on August 30, 2012, 12:47:52 PM
one more personal insult and this thread is locked

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Quote from: cottage cheese on August 30, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: Oakeshott on August 30, 2012, 12:35:19 PM
"money will be the only reason again [for Berb. going to West Ham]. Hes played with Jol etc..."

Precisely. If he goes to West Ham, the explanation may well be that he has played under Jol before.

no nazi queen. My fault meant to say hes played under jol before so the only reason to why he would want to go hammers is money
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 12:49:17 PM
I have been name called for my opinions and slated for supplying facts... sorry im not a walking dictionary nor am i a WUM, going to sod of to QPR or any other abuse that this board and its posters are going to throw at me.

We sold our best player are told we are getting the average age of the team down and then try and sign a 30 plus striker. Hardly something to slate me for personally for is it????

Then im told im personally attacking others. what utter rubbish !!!

Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: LRCN on August 30, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 12:49:17 PM
I have been name called for my opinions and slated for supplying facts... sorry im not a walking dictionary nor am i a WUM, going to sod of to QPR or any other abuse that this board and its posters are going to throw at me.

We sold our best player are told we are getting the average age of the team down and then try and sign a 30 plus striker. Hardly something to slate me for personally for is it????

Then im told im personally attacking others. what utter rubbish !!!



i can quote you some, if you like. but be receptive of the response of your posts. asking someone what planet they are on for comparing sheringham to berbatov is  not acceptable. explaining why you think that is an incorrect statement is. the difference, and which one is appropriate for fof, should be clear

if you wish to resume this please message me.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mikie on August 30, 2012, 12:56:03 PM
since when did sheringham ever play for fulham???
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Ubik on August 30, 2012, 12:58:54 PM
That tweet almost certainly relates to Carroll. I reckon we're in the strongest position to get Berba, paperwork may delay it until tomorrow but I feel good about it.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: TonyGilroy on August 30, 2012, 12:59:45 PM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 12:57:31 PM
Perhaps its boards like this and fans like you as to why players wont come to the club and why they leave. One sided opinions.. goodbye FOF..

And goodbye to you.

It's been a pleasure.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: PokerMatt on August 30, 2012, 01:01:45 PM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 12:57:31 PM
Perhaps its boards like this and fans like you as to why players wont come to the club and why they leave. One sided opinions.. goodbye FOF..

Ah of course! It finally adds up now who that lurker Berba4Jol_81 is.

How could we be so reckless?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cottage cheese on August 30, 2012, 01:02:34 PM
ye i went overboard on that insult put my hands up. Sorry Lork!

Wont happen again, I promise
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Boggers on August 30, 2012, 01:05:21 PM
Quote from: mikie on August 30, 2012, 12:57:31 PM
Perhaps its boards like this and fans like you as to why players wont come to the club and why they leave. One sided opinions.. goodbye FOF..

Also, really sorry lads but it's definitely my fault that Mousa went to Spurs   :dft004: :dft004:
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Burt on August 30, 2012, 01:06:14 PM
Is it too late for a group hug?

:group hug:
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: west kowloon white on August 30, 2012, 01:14:13 PM
Can someone PLEASE push him off Putney Bridge(not Betbatov-unless he signs for WHU -of course)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2012, 01:15:53 PM
Berba is having a medical at #ffc according to big martin himself
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: HatterDon on August 30, 2012, 01:20:00 PM
What? I went through 12 full pages of Dixontov Berbatuhu only to discover that none of the posts are about how we've signed him or he's turned us down?

Mind you, I did enjoy the mindless foot-stamping and childish insults. Made my morning! Now I REALLY need a cuppa.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FulhamMic on August 30, 2012, 01:21:26 PM
This will prove an exceptional coup if it happens. Berbatov is a player of real quality.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: LRCN on August 30, 2012, 01:22:16 PM
a shame but he didn't understand i have no problem with his opinion.

BACK TO REALITY
BERBATOV IS HAVING A MEDICAL WITH US RIGHT NOW ACCORDING TO JOL
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ImperialWhite on August 30, 2012, 01:22:45 PM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/07/17/berb460.jpg)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: PokerMatt on August 30, 2012, 01:23:02 PM
Looks likely to move to us then.. I'm excited more for the fact this shows we mean business than anything else. And if he shows what he can do then this could prove a steal (provided we aren't paying more than £40k a week).
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: elgreenio on August 30, 2012, 01:23:32 PM
MEDICAL AT FULHAM!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Whiteroom on August 30, 2012, 01:25:30 PM
Do we think he could sigh this afternoon? How long does it normally take after the medical?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: LRCN on August 30, 2012, 01:26:46 PM
one for the ladies

(http://api.ning.com/files/WVuLClxc4HR1k-Rc-pYNPxK05*1zxcFC3tEy3QN5Uet6EJecI1FBEa1XKcxeecP-7IjXzEk53IAPYyHzRmSPLbYcRiaEygZP/b4.jpg)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: west kowloon white on August 30, 2012, 01:27:01 PM
Good one Fulhammic-but don't you think you might be confused with..or are you too subtle for me...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: west kowloon white on August 30, 2012, 01:29:35 PM
Hope this not the egg mcmuffin in Putney again-gotta be a better addition tha Carroll??
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Aaron on August 30, 2012, 01:31:21 PM
Quote from: Whiteroom on August 30, 2012, 01:25:30 PM
Do we think he could sigh this afternoon? How long does it normally take after the medical?

I don't know if this is still the case but aren't there two medicals at Fulham these days?  One by the club and one by Al Fayed's notorious Egyptian surgeons? :)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: gang on August 30, 2012, 01:32:08 PM
the medical at Fulham normally last until we find some old injury. I hope he signs for us. :German-flag:
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: King_Crud on August 30, 2012, 01:38:07 PM
mikie has left and Berbatov is having a medical? This thread delivers
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: zzamora on August 30, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
JOL OUT!

SHOCKING SIGNINGS

NO AMBITION

ZAMORA IS BETTER THAN BERBS

GREEN IS BETTER THAN SCWHARZER

WE'RE ALL DOOMED

Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: bramble on August 30, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
This is from lEquipe

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Le 30/08/2012 à 14:20:00
Foot - Transferts : Berbatov finalement à Fulham
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Dimitar Berbatov a été le centre d'un énorme imbroglio lors des dernières 24 heures. L'attaquant international bulgare, sous contrat avec Manchester United jusqu'en 2013, a été acheté 4 millions d'euros par Fulham, où il passe sa visite médicale. Mercredi soir, il s'était mis d'accord avec la Fiorentina, qui lui avait payé le billet d'avion pour se rendre en Italie. Finalement, l'ancien joueur de Tottenham avait été discuter avec... la Juventus ! Une Vieille Dame qu'il a finalement éconduit, puisque sa femme ne voulait pas quitter l'Angleterre.
La Fiorentina furieuse !
La Fiorentina, elle, n'a pas digéré l'attitude de la Juventus Turin ni du joueur. «Durant la journée de mercredi, (Manchester United) a donné son accord pour que son joueur se rende à Florence pour passer une visite médicale alors qu'un accord avait trouvé avec lui sur les termes de son contrat, a indiqué la Fiorentina dans un communiqué. Nous pensions que le joueur avait pris place avec son avocat dans un avion pour Florence, avec des billets payés par nos soins, mais il n'est jamais arrivé à Florence, en raison de l'attitude arrogante et sans respect d'autres entreprises qui bafouent les valeurs d'honnêteté, de fair-play et d'éthique. Malgré ses qualités sportives et techniques, nous sommes heureux qu'il n'ait pas rejoint ce club, il ne mérite pas de représenter cette ville et ce maillot».
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Whiteroom on August 30, 2012, 01:48:17 PM
Translation...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Quills on August 30, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
Quote from: King_Crud on August 30, 2012, 01:38:07 PM
mikie has left and Berbatov is having a medical? This thread delivers

Made me laugh, thanks  :011:

As ever I don't want to believe it until I see it on the club website (Berbatov, not mikie), but I am letting myself get a teeny bit excited about this one.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Fulhamfc1989 on August 30, 2012, 01:51:52 PM
He'll be on close to 80k a week according to the Independent. Surely not??!! Although the position we find ourselves in (i.e. losing the two D's) it may be necessary!    
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: LRCN on August 30, 2012, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: Fulhamfc1989 on August 30, 2012, 01:51:52 PM
He'll be on close to 80k a week according to the Independent. Surely not??!! Although the position we find ourselves in (i.e. losing the two D's) it may be necessary!    

reports of under 35k a week from italian media who have been totally accurate with this transfer. so ill go with that. no doubt berbatov's wages are being part subsidised by united
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: JBH on August 30, 2012, 01:53:19 PM
Fiorentina are not impressed then!!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: horse1031 on August 30, 2012, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: ddeuce on August 30, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
JOL OUT!

SHOCKING SIGNINGS

NO AMBITION

ZAMORA IS BETTER THAN BERBS

GREEN IS BETTER THAN SCWHARZER

WE'RE ALL DOOMED



Seriously DDDEUCE RELAX :038:

you are known to be so knee jerk :005:
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Fulhamfc1989 on August 30, 2012, 02:00:37 PM
Quote from: ~lork on August 30, 2012, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: Fulhamfc1989 on August 30, 2012, 01:51:52 PM
He'll be on close to 80k a week according to the Independent. Surely not??!! Although the position we find ourselves in (i.e. losing the two D's) it may be necessary!   

reports of under 35k a week from italian media who have been totally accurate with this transfer. so ill go with that. no doubt berbatov's wages are being part subsidised by united

I hope so- although anything more than that would be justified given our situation
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mr-ska on August 30, 2012, 02:03:08 PM
TOP STORY....  Jol confirms its happening  and Sunderland have accepted an off for Richardson
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Whiteroom on August 30, 2012, 02:07:48 PM
I think that at this moment we need to offer more in wages if that will clinch the deal.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: The Rock on August 30, 2012, 02:10:00 PM
Richardson at 2.5m is pretty cheap. Ok replacement for the time being I guess. We all know Berbatov.

I more have faith in Jol as he will get the best out of these 2, especially as he had Berbatov at Spurs.

This still leaves a lot of money for other players (and dare I say ground upgrades) going forward.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: jelmo on August 30, 2012, 02:12:26 PM
Just need a top notch central midfielder or two and possibly a dentral defender. Clint is gonna probably go so an attacking mid would be good.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: bulgariawhite on August 30, 2012, 02:17:20 PM
I don't disagree with Berbatov, but if he is going to succeed he needs service,
Richardson I am not so sure. We need a creative midfielder who runs into space and can see a magical pass do we have one in our ranks? Are we going to find a gem in 24 hours? Living now in Bulgaria Berbatov may give me a chance of gaining more black and white supporters. Lol
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: itombomb on August 30, 2012, 02:17:58 PM
Quote from: ~lork on August 30, 2012, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: Fulhamfc1989 on August 30, 2012, 01:51:52 PM
He'll be on close to 80k a week according to the Independent. Surely not??!! Although the position we find ourselves in (i.e. losing the two D's) it may be necessary!   

reports of under 35k a week from italian media who have been totally accurate with this transfer. so ill go with that. no doubt berbatov's wages are being part subsidised by united
Fiorentina's offer was €35 a week, then Juve offered to double that. We will likely be offering the upper end of our wage limit, so £45/50K?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: hn4fulham on August 30, 2012, 02:19:11 PM
I'm really excited about berb coming to us:)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 30, 2012, 02:19:48 PM
Quote from: bulgariawhite on August 30, 2012, 02:17:20 PM
I don't disagree with Berbatov, but if he is going to succeed he needs service,
Richardson I am not so sure. We need a creative midfielder who runs into space and can see a magical pass do we have one in our ranks? Are we going to find a gem in 24 hours? Living now in Bulgaria Berbatov may give me a chance of gaining more black and white supporters. Lol

I agree we need a CM (or two) but service can be provided from Ruiz and the wingers.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cmg on August 30, 2012, 02:21:55 PM
Hopefully we'll be sending Fiorentina the price of an airline ticket (business class) Manchester - Florence.

We need to demonstrate that they are not the only ones familiar with 'honesty, fair play and ethics'.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Lighthouse on August 30, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
Richardson will surely play instead of Kaka. Kaka a fine player but needs to be introduced with less pressure to have to perform.

Berbatov if he signs is a lazy brilliant player on his day.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mr-ska on August 30, 2012, 02:22:43 PM
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2012/august/30/jol-closing-in-on-duo (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2012/august/30/jol-closing-in-on-duo)


Jol closing in on duo
Thursday 30 August 2012 14:00

Martin Jol has revealed that Fulham are close to finalising deals for both Dimitar Berbatov and Kieran Richardson, with the former currently undergoing a medical at the Club.

"Berbatov is finishing his medical and if everything is good he will be one of our players," said Jol. "There were a lot of clubs interested in him but we were able and capable of getting him.

"He was on my list all the time. I tried to do something months ago and it didn't come off so I came back and it was the right moment for him to make his decision."

Jol continued: "We are talking to Richardson and hopefully he will come to us. A fee has been agreed and I'm confident it will happen before the deadline. I see him playing as a winger."

The potential signings of the pair from Manchester United and Sunderland respectively are the latest in what has been a busy time at Motspur Park ahead of Friday's 11pm transfer deadline.

Mousa Dembélé joined Tottenham Hotspur on Wednesday, with Jol admitting he was powerless to stop the midfielder leaving.

"He had a clause in his contract and they [Tottenham] agreed to play that money so we had to let him go," stated Jol. "I've tried to keep him over the last six months because I knew of the clause. If he'd stayed it would have been good for him. He could have moved on in a year's time to another club but he'd decided to go earlier.

"We had money before, we're a healthy Club, and it wasn't like we needed the Dembélé money. We want to keep our best players and he was certainly one of our best players. I felt he'd made big steps forward over the last six months. So we are busy trying to get the team as strong as before."

Meanwhile, Jol is expecting further developments on Clint Dempsey's much-publicised situation in the not-too-distant future.

"There is still nothing on the table but discussions are ongoing with more than one club," said Jol. "I expect a few things to happen soon. We are talking to several clubs but it is up to him and his desire to go to a Champions League club.

"Maybe that won't happen but certainly I expect a few clubs to be in the mix for him. Sunderland is one of them but I think that will be difficult. There are different clubs with different scenarios and different ideas but we know exactly what we want and if other clubs come up with the right deal then we'll do it."
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 30, 2012, 02:23:10 PM
It really is an excellent signing.

Top scorer a few years back, cost Man U 30m, wanted by Juventus.

It doesnt matter what age he is, if we get 3 years out of him at 4/5m it will have been worth it.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: jelmo on August 30, 2012, 02:29:46 PM
Looks as though Spurs probably did pay the reported £15 fee then as Jol has confirmed that there was infact a clause.

Shame that Dempsey is probably gonna have to settle for a club that doesnt match his ambitions but diarrhea happens. Hope he is happy in Sunderland!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Tomo on August 30, 2012, 02:34:41 PM
I personally think we will get these two with Dempsey staying and then perhaps a one more. But who?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: jelmo on August 30, 2012, 02:38:05 PM
Granero would have been ideal...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: bulgariawhite on August 30, 2012, 02:43:45 PM
If Dempsey stays he has to sign just to keep some professional creditability with our fans and the manager
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Jack Fulham on August 30, 2012, 04:04:58 PM
This is what the secret footballer had to say on Berbatov.

(https://p.twimg.com/A1dRqJSCcAATI__.jpg)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Burt on August 30, 2012, 05:00:38 PM
Berbatov set for Jol reunion as outcast United striker undergoes Fulham medical
Dimitar Berbatov is set to join Fulham after manager Martin Jol revealed the Manchester United striker is undergoing a medical ahead of a dramatic switch.
The move reunites Craven Cottage boss Jol with Berbatov after he brought the Bulgarian to the Barclays Premier League in 2006 in a £10.9million deal from German outfit Bayer Leverkusen to Tottenham.
If the deal, believed to be worth as much as £5million, is completed without any issues, Jol hopes to include the Bulgarian in his squad for Saturday's trip to West Ham.
Berbatov was in Turin and close to agreeing a deal with Juventus on Wednesday night after the Italian champions seemingly gazumped Fiorentina to his signature.
The 31-year-old flew to Munich with the aim to take a connecting flight to Florence and speak to Fiorentina. Juventus stepped in while he was at the airport and he missed the flight to Florence. Juventus agreed a £5m fee with United and offered Berbatov £2m a year over two years.
However, Fulham made a late move in the hope of persuading him to stay in England.
The move prompted a furious reaction from Fiorentina who claimed the striker 'didn't deserve to wear our jersey.'
In a statement the club said: 'During today the English club had allowed their player the written permission to come to Florence for a medical and to sign his contract.
'The player got on the flight with his agent and on tickets paid for by Fiorentina. He never arrived in Florence. This was down to outlandish and arrogant behaviour of other clubs, who have nothing to do with fair play and sporting ethics that go even beyond the confines of fairness.
'As for the player, apart from his characteristics and his value on the field, we are happy he didn't come to Fiorentina. He did not deserve our city, to wear our jersey or the values that represent it.'
Juventus director of football Beppe Moratta confirmed they have now switched sights to Arsenal striker Nicklas Bendnter.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2195758/Dimitar-Berbatov-Fulham-medical-ahead-Manchester-United-exit.html#ixzz252qairNr (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2195758/Dimitar-Berbatov-Fulham-medical-ahead-Manchester-United-exit.html#ixzz252qairNr)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: DevonFFC on August 30, 2012, 05:08:49 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on August 30, 2012, 04:04:58 PM
This is what the secret footballer had to say on Berbatov.

(https://p.twimg.com/A1dRqJSCcAATI__.jpg)


In relation to this I have a friend who played for wolves in the game where mick made all the changes, he said that berba megged him and that my friend stuck out a leg and after Berba went past he looked him up and down and laughed... If you can back arrogance with performance then why not
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Berserker on August 30, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
If we sigh him i am going to have him as my wallpaper at work and alternative him with Riise
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 30, 2012, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: ollienixs on August 30, 2012, 05:08:49 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on August 30, 2012, 04:04:58 PM
This is what the secret footballer had to say on Berbatov.

(https://p.twimg.com/A1dRqJSCcAATI__.jpg)


In relation to this I have a friend who played for wolves in the game where mick made all the changes, he said that berba megged him and that my friend stuck out a leg and after Berba went past he looked him up and down and laughed... If you can back arrogance with performance then why not

Who is ur mate?? I used to play with a wolves player
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: BestOfBrede on August 30, 2012, 05:51:50 PM
Quote from: bulgariawhite on August 30, 2012, 02:43:45 PM
If Dempsey stays he has to sign just to keep some professional creditability with our fans and the manager
Dempsey signing would be the icing for me!
Come on Clint - you know it makes sense!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: CanadianCottager on August 30, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Berbatov and Ruiz would be the most awkward, most technically amazing and most creative strike partnership in the Premiership. Look for Fulham to lead the league in backheel passes, rainbows, and nutmegs, if nothing else.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Aaron on August 30, 2012, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: CanadianCottager on August 30, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Berbatov and Ruiz would be the most awkward, most technically amazing and most creative strike partnership in the Premiership. Look for Fulham to lead the league in backheel passes, rainbows, and nutmegs, if nothing else.

You know that music that plays whenever the Harlem Globetrotters are on the television?

This: Harlem Globetrotters Song HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyeKAkMwCpw#)

They just play that for the entire match over the Tannoy.  When the whistle goes at full time the scoreboard says 5-0 to Fulham and no one can actually work out what has happened.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: The Bronsons on August 30, 2012, 06:29:12 PM
Quote from: Aaron on August 30, 2012, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: CanadianCottager on August 30, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Berbatov and Ruiz would be the most awkward, most technically amazing and most creative strike partnership in the Premiership. Look for Fulham to lead the league in backheel passes, rainbows, and nutmegs, if nothing else.

You know that music that plays whenever the Harlem Globetrotters are on the television?

This: Harlem Globetrotters Song HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyeKAkMwCpw#)

They just play that for the entire match over the Tannoy.  When the whistle goes at full time the scoreboard says 5-0 to Fulham and no one can actually work out what has happened.

Genius! Especially at home to the cloggers from Stoke.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: RidgeRider on August 30, 2012, 06:59:55 PM
I'm not going to gloat about us having something up our sleeve,  but I LOVE this signing...if it happens.

I ALMOST went for Tottenham when I was choosing a team back in 2007. I remember thinking what a great pair Keane and Berbatov were and so many goals scored. After I finished my spreadsheet, pivot tables and all, Fulham still came up on top, but this guy is amazing on his day.

Loving this if it happens.  098.gif
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cmg on August 30, 2012, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: The Bronsons on August 30, 2012, 06:29:12 PM
Quote from: Aaron on August 30, 2012, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: CanadianCottager on August 30, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Berbatov and Ruiz would be the most awkward, most technically amazing and most creative strike partnership in the Premiership. Look for Fulham to lead the league in backheel passes, rainbows, and nutmegs, if nothing else.

You know that music that plays whenever the Harlem Globetrotters are on the television?

This: Harlem Globetrotters Song HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyeKAkMwCpw#)

They just play that for the entire match over the Tannoy.  When the whistle goes at full time the scoreboard says 5-0 to Fulham and no one can actually work out what has happened.


...and who are we playing this week? Aha! The Washington Generals. Excellent - we've got a decent record against them. (p13000 w12994 d0 l6)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: domprague on August 30, 2012, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: CanadianCottager on August 30, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Berbatov and Ruiz would be the most awkward, most technically amazing and most creative strike partnership in the Premiership. Look for Fulham to lead the league in backheel passes, rainbows, and nutmegs, if nothing else.

Brilliant. I love the Harlem Globetrotters one as well - Sweet Georgia Brown.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Chesh on August 30, 2012, 07:26:07 PM
Quote from: CanadianCottager on August 30, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Berbatov and Ruiz would be the most awkward, most technically amazing and most creative strike partnership in the Premiership. Look for Fulham to lead the league in backheel passes, rainbows, and nutmegs, if nothing else.

What is a 'rainbow' - never heard that term before???
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: hesedmedia on August 30, 2012, 07:41:42 PM
Quote from: Chesh on August 30, 2012, 07:26:07 PM
Quote from: CanadianCottager on August 30, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Berbatov and Ruiz would be the most awkward, most technically amazing and most creative strike partnership in the Premiership. Look for Fulham to lead the league in backheel passes, rainbows, and nutmegs, if nothing else.

What is a 'rainbow' - never heard that term before???
Overhead flick. Rolling the ball up on the ankle, then flicking ball skywards over the head.
Learn Football Soccer skills -Rainbow flick, pot of gold, brazilian flick - soccer skills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY42zsfgEIA#ws)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: MrCheviot on August 30, 2012, 07:55:00 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 30, 2012, 06:59:55 PM
I'm not going to gloat about us having something up our sleeve,  but I LOVE this signing...if it happens.

I ALMOST went for Tottenham when I was choosing a team back in 2007. I remember thinking what a great pair Keane and Berbatov were and so many goals scored. After I finished my spreadsheet, pivot tables and all, Fulham still came up on top, but this guy is amazing on his day.

Loving this if it happens.  098.gif

Wait.. how do you chose the teams you support? Pivot tables?

085.gif

Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: HatterDon on August 30, 2012, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: King_Crud on August 30, 2012, 01:38:07 PM
mikie has left and Berbatov is having a medical? This thread delivers

well that means that there's an addition for QPR and one for Fulham
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: mccscratch on August 30, 2012, 08:11:04 PM
Quote from: Chesh on August 30, 2012, 07:26:07 PM
Quote from: CanadianCottager on August 30, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Berbatov and Ruiz would be the most awkward, most technically amazing and most creative strike partnership in the Premiership. Look for Fulham to lead the league in backheel passes, rainbows, and nutmegs, if nothing else.

What is a 'rainbow' - never heard that term before???

Here is one in a match... wait for the replay... great skill

Amazing dribble "lambreta" of Leandro Damiao - Brazil vs Argentina (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LfrTFPG7Lo#)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Jamie88 on August 30, 2012, 08:15:29 PM
Apparently medical has been passed
http://thepeoplesperson.com/2012/08/30/dimitar-berbatov-joins-fulham-after-passing-medical/? (http://thepeoplesperson.com/2012/08/30/dimitar-berbatov-joins-fulham-after-passing-medical/?)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: dannydog on August 30, 2012, 08:18:40 PM
Being reported in Bulgaria he has passed medical and signed
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Edwatch_Winston_Malone on August 30, 2012, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 30, 2012, 06:59:55 PM
I'm not going to gloat about us having something up our sleeve,  but I LOVE this signing...if it happens.

I ALMOST went for Tottenham when I was choosing a team back in 2007. I remember thinking what a great pair Keane and Berbatov were and so many goals scored. After I finished my spreadsheet, pivot tables and all, Fulham still came up on top, but this guy is amazing on his day.

Loving this if it happens.  098.gif


You are kidding, right?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: westcliff white on August 30, 2012, 08:35:23 PM
altho he is having a medical, has there been any confirmation he has agreed terms?

fr me you dont do the medical unless your sure your going to sign, but have not seen anything to say he has as yet agreed terms.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Burt on August 30, 2012, 08:36:43 PM
Evening Standard said it was all but a done deal...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: supersimmo123 on August 30, 2012, 08:38:38 PM
Jol said if he passes his medical he is a Fulham player on his interview.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: WhiteJC on August 30, 2012, 08:39:56 PM
 
Dimitar Berbatov joins Fulham after passing medical

Dimitar Berbatov has now left Old Trafford with Fulham securing the services of the striker for a reported bargain £4 million. The Bulgarian made the move to the London club after a reported transfer to Fiorentina broke down.

He has officially passed a medical and will soon officially be unveiled by Fulham as a player.

The 31-year-old striker struggled for first team football at United with Danny Welbeck, Javier Hernandez and now Robin van Persie all keeping him on the sidelines. Even after winning the Premier League golden boot with 20 goals in 2010/11, Berbatov still couldn't secure himself a guaranteed starting position but a move to Fulham will hopefully re-kindle his career.

His 56 goals in 149 appearances helped United to two Premier League title, one UEFA Champions League, one League Cup and a FIFA Club World Cup.

It is the least that Berbatov deserves. Few players have ever presented themselves as well as he has at United. Even when he was dropped from the squad completely for the UEFA Champions League final, he didn't kick up a fuss and remained the complete professional, not even questioning the decision. For this, he will always be remembered fondly.

From a hat-trick against Liverpool to a five goal haul against Blackburn, Berbatov certainly graced the Old Trafford turf with some memorable moments.  He may not have lived up to his record breaking £30.75 million price tag but he certainly won't go down in the history books as a Kleberson-esque signing.

Fans were always split over whether Berbatov was right for United but nobody can deny the quality that he possesses. His elegant style of play of football may not have been suited to the fast flowing and pacy style of United but the least he deserves is some top flight regular first team football. At 31, he still has time to play football at the highest level and the slower pace of Fulham will no doubt suit his game.

I wish Berbatov the best of luck at Fulham and hope he can finally get himself some regular first team football, so long as he doesn't score against United that is.

Berbatov skill against West Ham (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJh7mWWIzSg#)


http://thepeoplesperson.com/2012/08/30/dimitar-berbatov-joins-fulham-after-passing-medical/? (http://thepeoplesperson.com/2012/08/30/dimitar-berbatov-joins-fulham-after-passing-medical/?)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 30, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
Welcome to the club :) That eases my decision about my new kit and the name on the back  :wine:
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Burt on August 30, 2012, 09:11:05 PM
This must rate as one of the most striking transfers of the current window.

Very excited by this signing...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on August 30, 2012, 09:19:03 PM
so ....
Fiorentina hope to finalise a £4.5million move for Manchester United's Dimitar Berbatov.
Berbatov flew to Italy on Wednesday to complete the move to the Serie A club, a source close to the Bulgarian revealed.
'Fiorentina have agreed personal terms with Dimitar and they'll announce the deal very soon,' the source said, adding the transfer was subject to Berbatov passing a medical.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2194955/Fiorentina-sign-Dimitar-Berbatov.html#ixzz253uxP7p3 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2194955/Fiorentina-sign-Dimitar-Berbatov.html#ixzz253uxP7p3)

and then ...

Fiorentina have released a statement condemning Dimitar Berbatov after the Manchester United striker failed to show at the club for a medical.
Berbatov travelled to Italy on Wednesday at the expense of the Viola, but opened negotiations with Serie A rivals Juventus instead.
However, the 31-year-old former Tottenham favourite is now poised for a move back to London after undergoing a medical at Fulham.
Fiorentina were miffed by Bebatov's conduct, and have confirmed they are no longer interested in the player.
A statement from the Italian club read: "ACF Fiorentina announce that the transfer for Dimitar Berbatov definitively collapsed after an agreement with Manchester United had been concluded and after reaching a verbal agreement with the player over his contract," read a club statement.
"The English club had allowed their player the written permission to come to Florence for a medical and to sign his contract. The player got on the flight with his agent and on tickets paid for by Fiorentina. He never arrived in Florence.
"This was down to outlandish and arrogant behaviour of other clubs, who have nothing to do with fair play and sporting ethics that go even beyond the confines of fairness.
"As for the player, apart from his characteristics and his value on the field, at this stage we are happy he didn't come to Fiorentina. He did not deserve our city, to wear our jersey or the values that represent it."

Why do we think he will not do the same to us ????
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: epsomraver on August 30, 2012, 09:30:49 PM
Because dear Lady he is at MP and Jol has said that as long as all is ok he is a Fulham player, full interview on the offal which is good because it has changed my view of Jol, he appears very passionate about the club
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: westcliff white on August 30, 2012, 09:36:27 PM
epsom i agree re what you said. for me i would like to know that terms are agreed and will join subject to medical.

Jol did say he doesnt see dembele leaving as no one will come in with the money fo rhim, then low and behold they do. now thats not Jols fault but it does prove everything can change in a mnute or two.

I have full confidence that he will join us but would feel more at ease going to sleep tonight having heard that terms were agreed or even better he had signed.

i honestly believe signing him wille ase the way for others to come in tomorrow
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cebu on August 30, 2012, 10:05:19 PM
Even if the signing happens tonight, it would be typical of our club to wait till tomorrow morning before updating the website.   :dft007:
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: os5889 on August 30, 2012, 10:08:11 PM
Two words of caution - Mummys boy, it aint over till the club confirms the deal!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: PokerMatt on August 30, 2012, 10:18:06 PM
Quote from: os5889 on August 30, 2012, 10:08:11 PM
Two words of caution - Mummys boy, it aint over till the club confirms the deal!

Yep. And even then... Reyna photographed with his FFC top before changing his mind still haunts me.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on August 30, 2012, 10:30:38 PM
 
Quote from: epsomraver on August 30, 2012, 09:30:49 PM
Because dear Lady he is at MP and Jol has said that as long as all is ok he is a Fulham player, full interview on the offal which is good because it has changed my view of Jol, he appears very passionate about the club unquote




But please Sir  !!I saw JAR in a Fulham shirt circa 2002 and it took 9 years before we saw him on the pitch.....and if Dim can do it to them ...he can do it to us .............what if Wenger makes a last ditch bid ???....
Do you remember the moaning about Andrew Cole being a lazy whatsit in the JH ???  it will be doubled if this signing comes about .....................personally I think it is great it it does go through and he has history with Jol,  a  very good player and  cheap  even for a 31 year old .....................was afraid it was  going to be Michael Owen !!!!!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: RidgeRider on August 30, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
Quote from: Edward_Winston_Malone on August 30, 2012, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 30, 2012, 06:59:55 PM
I'm not going to gloat about us having something up our sleeve,  but I LOVE this signing...if it happens.

I ALMOST went for Tottenham when I was choosing a team back in 2007. I remember thinking what a great pair Keane and Berbatov were and so many goals scored. After I finished my spreadsheet, pivot tables and all, Fulham still came up on top, but this guy is amazing on his day.

Loving this if it happens.  098.gif


You are kidding, right?


Of course, but not entirely.....my spreadsheet was very simple and only in my mind. As a newbie to the league, I had NO idea about team histories or reputations or the monopoly that exists in the top 4-6. Having said that I did research at least 4 teams - Fulham, Tottenham, Villa, and Everton and chose Fulham. I am embarrassed to say I did fancy the way Tottenham played over the other teams as it was wide open and I thought Bebatov was amazing even though I didn't know crap about football at the time.

I'm over the moon with him coming to Fulham.  098.gif
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Berserker on August 30, 2012, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 30, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
Quote from: Edward_Winston_Malone on August 30, 2012, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 30, 2012, 06:59:55 PM
I'm not going to gloat about us having something up our sleeve,  but I LOVE this signing...if it happens.

I ALMOST went for Tottenham when I was choosing a team back in 2007. I remember thinking what a great pair Keane and Berbatov were and so many goals scored. After I finished my spreadsheet, pivot tables and all, Fulham still came up on top, but this guy is amazing on his day.

Loving this if it happens.  098.gif


You are kidding, right?


Of course, but not entirely.....my spreadsheet was very simple and only in my mind. As a newbie to the league, I had NO idea about team histories or reputations or the monopoly that exists in the top 4-6. Having said that I did research at least 4 teams - Fulham, Tottenham, Villa, and Everton and chose Fulham. I am embarrassed to say I did fancy the way Tottenham played over the other teams as it was wide open and I thought Bebatov was amazing even though I didn't know crap about football at the time.

I'm over the moon with him coming to Fulham.  098.gif

Potentially
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: General on August 30, 2012, 11:28:30 PM


Will be our highest earner if that's the case..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-striker-dimitar-berbatov-1289858?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-striker-dimitar-berbatov-1289858?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Whilst there are also a few more original quotes surfacing from Jol here...



'I'm very, very happy and I think our fans will be very happy and proud because it's probably the biggest signing in the history of Fulham.'


Jol was Tottenham  manager when Berbatov arrived  at White Hart Lane for £11m  from Bayer Leverkusen in 2006 but had been sacked by the time  the striker was sold to  Manchester United for £30m two years later.


'In my final period at Spurs, I said,"He will go over my dead body",' recalled Jol. 'We had a good relationship and he knows that he will enjoy his football here. Hopefully, he can score his goals and we have other good players around him.'



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2196046/Dimitar-Berbatov-Fulhams-biggest-signing.html#ixzz254TLs8cH (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2196046/Dimitar-Berbatov-Fulhams-biggest-signing.html#ixzz254TLs8cH)

Makes you wonder why it still hasn't been made official considering the whole world knows it's been done and his agent has announced it as a done deal.

Wonder if he'll be available for Saturday.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on August 30, 2012, 11:30:30 PM
Swartz must be on that and then some ??


'I'm very, very happy and I think our fans will be very happy and proud because it's probably the biggest signing in the history of Fulham.'

Huh ??? guilding the lilly !!!!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 30, 2012, 11:31:41 PM
Wonder is there an option for a third year
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Berserker on August 30, 2012, 11:32:36 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 30, 2012, 11:31:41 PM
Wonder is there an option for a third year

He'd be 34 then though, mind you Duffers that and he is still good
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on August 30, 2012, 11:33:32 PM
Well it's not like he was overworked at Ure
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Jack Fulham on August 31, 2012, 12:18:47 AM
Quote from: KCat on August 30, 2012, 11:33:32 PM
Well it's not like he was overworked at Ure

even when he was playing lol. I'm sure Berbatov is going to dazzle us with his skills then frustrate us with his workrate.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 31, 2012, 08:41:14 AM
Interesting reports going around the web. 2 days ago news said he rejected the 1.8mil Euro/season offer from Fiorentina because he wanted 1 million more. Today papers report we are giving him 5mil pounds/season. What do you think the truth is? Obviously he's above the top wage of 45k, but double that? Doubt it.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: King_Crud on August 31, 2012, 09:21:40 AM
Quote from: ffcbulgaria on August 31, 2012, 08:41:14 AM
Interesting reports going around the web. 2 days ago news said he rejected the 1.8mil Euro/season offer from Fiorentina because he wanted 1 million more. Today papers report we are giving him 5mil pounds/season. What do you think the truth is? Obviously he's above the top wage of 45k, but double that? Doubt it.

Daily Mail says £5m transfer and £50k a week for 2 years
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 31, 2012, 09:31:17 AM
Quote from: King_Crud on August 31, 2012, 09:21:40 AM


Daily Mail says £5m transfer and £50k a week for 2 years

here's the link from Sun:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4513010/Fulham-have-shattered-their-pay-structure-to-land-Dimitar-Berbatov-from-Manchester-United.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4513010/Fulham-have-shattered-their-pay-structure-to-land-Dimitar-Berbatov-from-Manchester-United.html)

says 100k/week
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: epsomraver on August 31, 2012, 09:34:10 AM
All complete guess work, the club NEVER disclose any details of transfers and wages
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 31, 2012, 09:37:06 AM
Quote from: epsomraver on August 31, 2012, 09:34:10 AM
All complete guess work, the club NEVER disclose any details of transfers and wages

I can see us going up to 60-70 on a "one off" transfer but double + on our current top earner and double on what so called giants Juventus offered. Not to mention 100k is about what he was getting at Man Utd. I don't think our club would score such an own goal by givin that to even Messi.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on August 31, 2012, 09:37:06 AM
Ferguson just said in his press conference 'he wouldn't be surprised if Berbatov went to Spurs...'

:012:
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Lighthouse on August 31, 2012, 09:39:20 AM
yep as predicted Berbatov is not a done deal to Fulham. May just get ready to  090.gif
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: alexbishop on August 31, 2012, 09:40:48 AM
Grabs whisky bottle...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 31, 2012, 09:45:35 AM
Him signing for Fulham was confirmed on one of the sport radio stations in Bulgaria last night from his manager. But yea, before it comes up at fulhamfc.com we can still doubt the situation :D
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cottage cheese on August 31, 2012, 09:46:33 AM
he did ditch the viola and juventus so why not make it a hat trick.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: fulhamben on August 31, 2012, 09:47:11 AM
Quote from: ffcbulgaria on August 31, 2012, 09:45:35 AM
Him signing for Fulham was confirmed on one of the sport radio stations in Bulgaria last night from his manager. But yea, before it comes up at fulhamfc.com we can still doubt the situation :D
i cant wait 2 weeks
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: bucksfulham on August 31, 2012, 09:47:25 AM
 :012: From the Man U offal:

Sir Alex Ferguson has wished Dimitar Berbatov well - but does not think the Bulgarian is certain to join Fulham yet.

The striker has undergone a medical with Martin Jol's side and will depart Old Trafford before the deadline but there could be yet another twist regarding his future.

"Dimitar was always going to be going," admitted the boss. "I said last year he'd be leaving at the end of the season. He's not gone yet, though. I don't know anything about it. We've not had any contact with him.

"We thought he was in Italy, going to Fiorentina. But it turns out he's not gone there. He could be anywhere, to be honest with you. It wouldn't surprise me if he's at Tottenham.

"I don't think he's certain to go to Fulham, put it that way. He's a very talented player and his contribution is good, particularly at home. He's the only player to score a hat-trick against Liverpool for United. When we changed our game, it didn't suit him. We started to play with more speed. Wherever he goes, he'll do well."

There is unlikely to be any other activity around Old Trafford before the deadline on Friday night.

"There will not be any more business today," stressed Sir Alex. "There's no need to loan today. We can do that seven days after the deadline. There are one or two players we need to get out on loan - younger players - but we don't have to make a decision on that at the moment."
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: rusty shackleford on August 31, 2012, 09:48:50 AM
Why the hell was Jol and co laughing and smiling about it yesterday at the press conf if it wasnt finalised grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: cottage cheese on August 31, 2012, 09:51:06 AM
maybe spurs have come in this morning or late last night?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FulhamMic on August 31, 2012, 09:52:59 AM
Quote from: bucksfulham on August 31, 2012, 09:47:25 AM
I don't know anything about it. We've not had any contact with him.

We thought he was in Italy, going to Fiorentina. But it turns out he's not gone there. He could be anywhere, to be honest with you.

This suggests he has absolutely no clue (if true) and therefore everything else he's said is pure speculation on SAF's part 086.gif

Also, he's leaving Utd. because he wants to play. With Spurs having signed Adebayor and Defoe having signed a new contract, would he get guaranteed first team football?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: fulhamben on August 31, 2012, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 31, 2012, 09:52:59 AM
Quote from: bucksfulham on August 31, 2012, 09:47:25 AM
I don't know anything about it. We've not had any contact with him.

We thought he was in Italy, going to Fiorentina. But it turns out he's not gone there. He could be anywhere, to be honest with you.

This suggests he has absolutely no clue (if true) and therefore everything else he's said is pure speculation on SAF's part 086.gif
he followed that up with there was rumours going around. we have been dupped. panic buy here we come
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: alexbishop on August 31, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 31, 2012, 09:48:50 AM
Why the hell was Jol and co laughing and smiling about it yesterday at the press conf if it wasnt finalised grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

To make other clubs think it was a done deal to stop clubs coming in with late offers.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: craig10 on August 31, 2012, 09:55:43 AM
Seemed to me like a bit of a dig at Berba
But ya never know as every manager says they haven't got a clue when they clearly have. Eg Big Sam all he knew was Maynard. just want them to have it signed b4 12 so he can be involved 2mo and I don't have to keep refreshing this site lol
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: os5889 on August 31, 2012, 09:57:28 AM
Im resigning my FFC commission, my heart cnat take anymore
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Berserker on August 31, 2012, 09:58:30 AM
Apparently turned us down and gone to Spurs
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Ordar on August 31, 2012, 10:06:23 AM
Was told earlier this week that #THFC had made a 'gentle enquiry' about Berbatov but had gone no further. Still hasn't joined #FFC @BenSmithBBC
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 31, 2012, 10:07:47 AM
Quote from: Berserker on August 31, 2012, 09:58:30 AM
Apparently turned us down and gone to Spurs

He'll have agreed terms with them before noon but will decide to join Malaga in the early afternoon. In the late afternoon while flying to Spain he'll miss his connection at Hamburg and will decide to join the local team. A few minutes before transfer deadline he'll actually use his internet signature to accept the contract offered by either CSKA Moscow or Zenit St. Peterburg.....
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: PokerMatt on August 31, 2012, 10:07:53 AM
This is Ruiz having a helicopter sent down to get him up to Newcastle all over again.

But did newcastle even show interest? I don't think so. Last day speculation. I'm waiting for official announcements on this one.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: domprague on August 31, 2012, 10:28:09 AM
Brilliant
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: jelmo on August 31, 2012, 10:36:33 AM
Time for the 'Berba-off' headline yet?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FulhamMic on August 31, 2012, 10:43:36 AM
In his Friday morning press conference, Sir Alex Ferguson suggested that Tottenham had made a late attempt to redirect Berbatov once again. However a senior source at Fulham confirmed this morning that their £4m deal had gone through. The Bulgaria stirker is to be paid £80,000 a week at his new club.

http://sulia.com/channel/soccer/f/a97e8fe5-aa92-4015-8251-7a881bf5e6ab/?source=twitter (http://sulia.com/channel/soccer/f/a97e8fe5-aa92-4015-8251-7a881bf5e6ab/?source=twitter)
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Jamie88 on August 31, 2012, 10:51:43 AM
This really does seem like one of those too good to be true transfers, and the longer it seems to take for the club to announce it, the more and more worried I am about a spanner in the works. And now Ferguson has made it a lot worse!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: MontenegroWhite on August 31, 2012, 11:12:25 AM
 :bang head:

Still nothing official, and he had medical yesterday, so it is obvious there is something strange there.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Boggers on August 31, 2012, 11:18:25 AM
If it does go through, is anyone else a little bit twitchy about his £80k a week wages? Very un-Fulham like...
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: westcliff white on August 31, 2012, 11:18:54 AM
our medicals take ages always have done.

i get encouraged and the deflated with this deal. just missed the guy on sky about spurs so not sure what he said
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: alexbishop on August 31, 2012, 11:20:46 AM
Quote from: Boggers on August 31, 2012, 11:18:25 AM
If it does go through, is anyone else a little bit twitchy about his £80k a week wages? Very un-Fulham like...

Big vote of confidence from the board for Jol ey? We've freed up a big chunk of our wage bill when AJ, Zamora, Murphy and co left though so no doubt we can afford it. I reckon he'll be on a 50k basic going up to 80k based on performance.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: BishopsParkFantastic on August 31, 2012, 11:32:40 AM
Why wouldn't Berbatov go to Spurs. Look how he behaved with the Italian clubs. All this hype about Berbatov - where would he play? First choice in front of Petric? (waste of Petric's goal scoriing/poaching talent) Puts Ruiz back on the wing? (not his best position - waste of talent) Puts Hugo on the wing (not his best position - waste of talent) Trotta (reduces or removes his opportunity for 1st team game play). We need a top quality central midfield player.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Boggers on August 31, 2012, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: alexbishop on August 31, 2012, 11:20:46 AM
Quote from: Boggers on August 31, 2012, 11:18:25 AM
If it does go through, is anyone else a little bit twitchy about his £80k a week wages? Very un-Fulham like...

Big vote of confidence from the board for Jol ey? We've freed up a big chunk of our wage bill when AJ, Zamora, Murphy and co left though so no doubt we can afford it. I reckon he'll be on a 50k basic going up to 80k based on performance.

I hope so, wages like this can set a precedent at clubs though. I hope MAF and AlMac have sanctioned this as a one-off.

Incidentally, if he does sign, how many seasons do you think he'll stay with us?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: FulhamMic on August 31, 2012, 11:35:50 AM
BBC Monitoring reports: "Dimitar Berbatov will give a news conference in Bulgaria's capital Sofia at 10:00 BST on Monday, the country's sports web portal Gong.bg reports. 'Berbatov and his agent Emil Dantchev are expected to give details about his transfer to Fulham,' the website said, recalling that the two gave a similar press briefing four years ago when the striker joined Man Utd from Spurs."
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: alexbishop on August 31, 2012, 11:37:28 AM
Quote from: BishopsParkFantastic on August 31, 2012, 11:32:40 AM
Why wouldn't Berbatov go to Spurs. Look how he behaved with the Italian clubs. All this hype about Berbatov - where would he play? First choice in front of Petric? (waste of Petric's goal scoriing/poaching talent) Puts Ruiz back on the wing? (not his best position - waste of talent) Puts Hugo on the wing (not his best position - waste of talent) Trotta (reduces or removes his opportunity for 1st team game play). We need a top quality central midfield player.

It's called flexibility, healthy competition for places and back up if injuries occur.

Jol will decide on his preferred line up and then other players will come in off the bench to impact games, or they will replace players in bad form/or injured.

I imagine Berbatov would play up top with Petric just behind him. Ruiz would either play wide right or drop deeper into central midfield to fill Dembele's place next to Diarra.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: GloucesterWhite on August 31, 2012, 11:37:59 AM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 31, 2012, 11:35:50 AM
BBC Monitoring reports: "Dimitar Berbatov will give a news conference in Bulgaria's capital Sofia at 10:00 BST on Monday, the country's sports web portal Gong.bg reports. 'Berbatov and his agent Emil Dantchev are expected to give details about his transfer to Fulham,' the website said, recalling that the two gave a similar press briefing four years ago when the striker joined Man Utd from Spurs."

Why would he be in Sofia on Monday when he should be training with his new team mates?
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 31, 2012, 11:39:25 AM
Quote from: FulhamMic on August 31, 2012, 11:35:50 AM
BBC Monitoring reports: "Dimitar Berbatov will give a news conference in Bulgaria's capital Sofia at 10:00 BST on Monday, the country's sports web portal Gong.bg reports. 'Berbatov and his agent Emil Dantchev are expected to give details about his transfer to Fulham,' the website said, recalling that the two gave a similar press briefing four years ago when the striker joined Man Utd from Spurs."

Generally Gong is the most reliable and objective source when it comes to sports news in Bulgaria. This has been put on their website since yesterday 23.38 Bulgarian time (21.38 GMT). I've been reluctant to share it because with Fulham you never know before its announced on the official website.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 31, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
 
Quote from: GloucesterWhite on August 31, 2012, 11:37:59 AM

Why would he be in Sofia on Monday when he should be training with his new team mates?

Because its the International break next week and he also received call-up for the national squad. No idea if he's going to accept and play but pretty sure he'll be able to get a day off if his next game is in 2 weeks time?!
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Senior Supporter on August 31, 2012, 11:53:10 AM
I've just seen for the first time the clip of Ferguson's comments about Berbatov and Tottenham.

It seems quite obvious to me that he was just being mischevious. He even finished by saying something like "no honestly I don't know where he is".

It's a bit worrying though that there is nothing official from the club, even though the Richardson deal has been confirmed.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: alexbishop on August 31, 2012, 12:08:45 PM
Berbatov on his way in club car to Motspur Park to sign remaining paperwork.

BREAKING NEWS! Berbatov is going to ... [rolls drum ... drum rolls too far ... drum keeps rolling ... chases drum ... eventually catches drum ... pants hard] ... Fulham. I will have the story for you ASAP. But he is 100% going there. I promise. And you can trust my promises. I am an honorable man. Unlike Brutus. That news comes via Jamie Jackson and David Hytner by the way. Two other honorable men. Unlike Brutus.

Berbatov is going to sign for #fulham. He is en route to club now, in a club car, driven by a club driver. #spurs hijack not going to happen

#fulham have the no9 shirt ready for Berbatov. He signed the majority of paperwork last night. He might even train with them this afternoon

All from the guardian.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Ordar on August 31, 2012, 12:13:55 PM
Great news if its going to get done. Bad news that its not been done in time for him to play tomorrow
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: Andy_M on August 31, 2012, 12:22:19 PM
To be honest I don't really think it is "bad news" if the deal has not been in time for him to play tomorrow.

He won't know our system, he won't know our players, our players won't know him. We would be better to stick with Petric tomorrow and to give Berbatov a few training sessions to get to understand how we play etc. before putting him in.
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: spikey norman on August 31, 2012, 12:24:09 PM
the wait for official announcement is painful - lets hope there isn't a final twist like the john arne riise saga when mummy stepped in
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: St Eve on August 31, 2012, 01:10:38 PM
This is worrying. I hope there is a plan B
Title: Re: Bebatov + News of Medical. Deal to be completed within hours - Merged
Post by: VicHalomsLovechild on August 31, 2012, 01:14:39 PM
I bet JAR's mum is interfering again !
Title: Sky Sports News.. Berbatov in a Fulham Club Car on the way to the club to sign t
Post by: mr-ska on August 31, 2012, 01:29:02 PM
Breaking News..

Sky Sports News.. Berbatov in a Fulham Club Car on the way to the club to sign the deal...
Title: Re: Sky Sports News.. Berbatov in a Fulham Club Car on the way to the club to sign t
Post by: westcliff white on August 31, 2012, 01:44:48 PM
The guardian had that story 90 minutes or so ago as well. Bloody long car ride thru London
Title: Re: Sky Sports News.. Berbatov in a Fulham Club Car on the way to the club to sign t
Post by: Nero on August 31, 2012, 01:51:53 PM
They're probably giving him a lift to Spurs
Title: Re: Sky Sports News.. Berbatov in a Fulham Club Car on the way to the club to sign t
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 31, 2012, 01:55:13 PM
His old friend Jol convinced him to sign with us and sold him for 15mil to Spurs
Title: Re: Berbatov - Update - in club car to Motspur - merged
Post by: BlaWhiArmyyyyyy on August 31, 2012, 02:00:31 PM
Quote from: mr-ska on August 31, 2012, 01:29:02 PM
Breaking News..

Sky Sports News.. Berbatov in a Fulham Club Car on the way to the club to sign the deal...

Where on sky is that reported? I cant find it
Title: Re: Berbatov - Update - in club car to Motspur - merged
Post by: westcliff white on August 31, 2012, 02:04:47 PM
was mentioned by the guy infront of the transfer tv when he summerises everything, was also on the guardian online about an hour before sky said it.
Title: Re: Berbatov - Update - in club car to Motspur - merged
Post by: Walsh on August 31, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Don't worry he is just taking the long way (driving past Spurs and not stopping) he likes to do his work within the last 10 minutes like he did with United.
Title: Re: Berbatov - Update - in club car to Motspur - merged
Post by: gang on August 31, 2012, 03:12:49 PM
Are we there yet?