Gets worse every time. Unwatchable now. BBC politically correct propaganda
I just don't like that we get the same "pundits" rammed down our throat every single week now. Oh look it's Alex Scott
I think the female pundits & commentators are terrible. So monotone & lacking in enthusiasm & making even a great match boring. Motty they are not. Same with the cricket ones.
Sorry can't agree, Alex Scott is excellent and really knows her stuff.
Miles more interesting than shearer, Merson, and bloody Jamie rednapp who just has nothing to say
Apart from the fact we have to wait till five for the action, we must suffer women's football, plugs for other bbc programmes, the people's cup, singing from a very unmusical bloke I have never heard of...
Like much of BBC coverage, politically correct and biased drivel.
I just find myself listening to Talk Sport and watching BT Sport.
Alex Scott FA Cup winner big deal.!!!
Watched the European Cup Rugby last week on Channel 4
had the England Womens Rugby Union Captain as pundit.
Felt sorry for her as well out her depth and nervous . Why ??
Quote from: Robbie on May 18, 2019, 03:37:35 PM
Like much of BBC coverage, politically correct and biased drivel.
I just find myself listening to Talk Sport and watching BT Sport.
Talksport is getting as bad.
Suddenly women presenting everywhere.
Every time Natalie Sawyer is on she reminds us all she is a Brentford fan.
So what
Oh dear what a lot of unreconstructed old farts. What the hell is wrong with women presenters? Do men have some sort of monopoly on knowledge and insights into sport? Why is being a womens' FA Cup winner "big deal"? Nothing politically correct about understanding that the female half of the population can play, comment on and understand sport. Just plain common sense.
Some of the female commentators have monotone annoying voices.
The actual reality is, so do some of the male commentators so I don't see the point of this post.
Alex Scott is the only pundit I actually like, male or female because she's very informative and unbiased. She hasn't played the men's game but knows it inside out and can critique it better than former players like shearer and jenas who have fallen into those jobs as opposed to Scott who literally worked flat out to get that job
At the risk of being non pc ,there did seem to be as much about mental health and racism as there was about the match.
I find the attitudes displayed in this topic to be as much insufferable as the BBC is claimed to be by the majority of posters. I like Alex Scott and I like watching top-class women's football.
As a youngster, I thought FA Cup Final Day was second only to Christmas Day in my calendar. But we were starved of football on TV in those days. I turned my TV on about 4.45 p.m. today and turned it off at the final whistle. I'm not much for hype. I thought Watford gave it a good shot until finally overwhelmed.
Well done Man City - and all achieved on a shoestring budget, too . . . ;-)
Should be nowhere near the panel.
Should be at a netball game or something like that or at home washing her panties...Women talking about footie,don't make me laugh.
That other one on the red button with the half shaved head sitting agreeing with everything the male pundit says,never any controversy like the guys will argue about....Zzzzzzz...BBC full of sh++.😱😱😱😱😱
Fulham 1959: I'd like to know when you watched 'top class' women's football on the TV?. It is being forced on the viewer by PC TV companies who are also aware it's cheap. Last weekend some sort of Women's Premier League play off or final was reported all over the media. Just over 2000 people bothered to turn up.
Personally rate Alex Scott highly as a pundit, clearly understands football very well and speaks more lucidly, with greater in-depth analysis than half the other football pundits on air, merson comes to mind. If she's got the ability to excel at her job, which she has shown she has, who cares what cups she has won, which team she played for or what gender she is
I'm an old fart....the bbc should be paid for by advertiser's.... it's currently 75% repeats.... don't get me on why they pay men more than women....or how/why they need 4 channels including bbc3....god knows how many radio stations they offer
The BBC's TV coverage is still a lot better than ITV's. Personally I like Alex Scott. She can be insightful and is far more articulate than most former players. Chris Waddle is a regular on 5 Live and I just wish he was on TV more. He calls it as he sees it, is passionate about all elements of our national sport, doesn't simply regurgitate the BBC party line and is really passionate about football. His rant after England lost to Germany in the 2010 World Cup was brilliant and just today he was utterly scathing regarding the price of Cup Final tickets and ticket allocations for the upcoming Champions League and Europa League finals.
Contrast him with Stuart Pearce who serves only to state the bleeding obvious and bastardise the English language which is why I gave up on Talksport a long time ago.
i do not mind women as long as they know what they are on about. it does worry me they are all young and pretty so suspect this is not quite Kosher. i know plenty of females that undersatand the game and speak brilliantly and men should not imagine they know everything but the pundits are there for how they look and whether they show enough leg..... do not believe me find an 'ordinary looking lady on TV'
The sooner the loony left wing bbc is flushed down the toilet the better.
I echo the Chris Waddle comment, is a good pundit, commentator. Enjoyable to listen too and knows his stuff far more than the bbc crew
So some of you would prefer the boring adverts for things you will never use than to watch the BBC What rubbish the BBC is far better value than any commercial station. All they put on are cheap easy to make programmes with no decent content. As for Bias I like a bit of that as it makes my brain think
The BBC were desperate to appoint a female pundit to promote the women's game a bit an Alex Scott happened to be recently retired, mixed raced, female and good looking. Ticked a lot of boxes. In real life I'm yet to meet a woman who is a genuinely passionate and well informed football fan
Quote from: Westlondonffc on May 19, 2019, 02:07:40 AM
The BBC were desperate to appoint a female pundit to promote the women's game a bit an Alex Scott happened to be recently retired, mixed raced, female and good looking. Ticked a lot of boxes. In real life I'm yet to meet a woman who is a genuinely passionate and well informed football fan
get a life
The BBC openly state that they are recruiting more woman so that programmes are more equally representative of the population as a whole. Hence more women on question time, Today, Newsnight, etc. No doubt football commentary falls into this as well. Can't wait for the invitation to commentate on the next women's netball international
It is not FF but I will never forget how when we lost 2-0 at that lot down the road but played so well, on MOTD 2 they never uttered a single word on our performance. I wrote to the editor of the programme politely (I struggled with that) pointing out this fact, I also enclosed an sae and informed of my email address.....not a word in reply. :031:
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I think it is good to have a nice young lady on M.O.T.D.
instead of the old tarts that have been on it for years
Quote from: MikeW on May 18, 2019, 08:20:10 PM
Fulham 1959: I'd like to know when you watched 'top class' women's football on the TV?. It is being forced on the viewer by PC TV companies who are also aware it's cheap. Last weekend some sort of Women's Premier League play off or final was reported all over the media. Just over 2000 people bothered to turn up.
England's Women International matches. Open your eyes. They are as skilful as the men, with the possible exception of the goalkeeping.
must agree i have seen some terrible boobs from female keepers.
The problem is women do not know how to cheat playing football.When a man is fouled he knows he must roll around as if a sniper in the crowd has just shot him.A woman does not know how to get an opponent sent off.The girlies are clueless.Long live mens football only!!!
Quote from: Statto on May 18, 2019, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 18, 2019, 04:37:56 PM
Some of the female commentators have monotone annoying voices.
The actual reality is, so do some of the male commentators so I don't see the point of this post.
Alex Scott is the only pundit I actually like, male or female because she's very informative and unbiased. She hasn't played the men's game but knows it inside out and can critique it better than former players like shearer and jenas who have fallen into those jobs as opposed to Scott who literally worked flat out to get that job
I fully accept Shearer, Wright et al are terrible pundits and only there because they were good footballers in their hayday.
But let's not kid ourselves, Scott is there because she's also an ex-footballer, and she ticks both the gender and ethnic minority boxes for the BBC.
Ummmmmm Ian Wright is black. Hadn't you noticed?
Quote from: Statto on May 19, 2019, 11:43:29 PM
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on May 19, 2019, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 18, 2019, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 18, 2019, 04:37:56 PM
Some of the female commentators have monotone annoying voices.
The actual reality is, so do some of the male commentators so I don't see the point of this post.
Alex Scott is the only pundit I actually like, male or female because she's very informative and unbiased. She hasn't played the men's game but knows it inside out and can critique it better than former players like shearer and jenas who have fallen into those jobs as opposed to Scott who literally worked flat out to get that job
I fully accept Shearer, Wright et al are terrible pundits and only there because they were good footballers in their hayday.
But let's not kid ourselves, Scott is there because she's also an ex-footballer, and she ticks both the gender and ethnic minority boxes for the BBC.
Ummmmmm Ian Wright is black. Hadn't you noticed?
Ummmmmm my point was that Scott is no more there on merit than Shearer or Wright.
What's yours?
Any ex-footballer with 100+ caps for England seems to be automatically selected pundits job. When Wayne Rooney retires he only needs to apply to get a pundits job. Alex Scott has more caps than Rooney and surely better a pundit than Rooney.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 20, 2019, 12:22:58 AM
Quote from: Statto on May 19, 2019, 11:43:29 PM
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on May 19, 2019, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 18, 2019, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 18, 2019, 04:37:56 PM
Some of the female commentators have monotone annoying voices.
The actual reality is, so do some of the male commentators so I don't see the point of this post.
Alex Scott is the only pundit I actually like, male or female because she's very informative and unbiased. She hasn't played the men's game but knows it inside out and can critique it better than former players like shearer and jenas who have fallen into those jobs as opposed to Scott who literally worked flat out to get that job
I fully accept Shearer, Wright et al are terrible pundits and only there because they were good footballers in their hayday.
But let's not kid ourselves, Scott is there because she's also an ex-footballer, and she ticks both the gender and ethnic minority boxes for the BBC.
Ummmmmm Ian Wright is black. Hadn't you noticed?
Ummmmmm my point was that Scott is no more there on merit than Shearer or Wright.
What's yours?
Any ex-footballer with 100+ caps for England seems to be automatically selected pundits job. When Wayne Rooney retires he only needs to apply to get a pundits job. Alex Scott has more caps than Rooney and surely better a pundit than Rooney.
My Ventriloquist Dummy is a better pundit than Wayne Rooney.
Wow. Amazed at most of the comments on this thread. Would have expected (and certainly hoped for) better from the FFC community.
Quote from: FulhamKC on May 20, 2019, 01:51:36 AM
Wow. Amazed at most of the comments on this thread. Would have expected (and certainly hoped for) better from the FFC community.
I agree. The level of naked racism and sexism on this thread leaves me gobsmacked. It seems like anytime a woman or ethnic minority get a promotion then some on here thinks it's due to political correctness. Er hello - but people from all sections of society are capable and competent.
Alex is one of the best pundits out there at the moment - she speaks with clarity and has an excellent reading of the game.
Quote from: Westlondonffc on May 19, 2019, 02:07:40 AM
The BBC were desperate to appoint a female pundit to promote the women's game a bit an Alex Scott happened to be recently retired, mixed raced, female and good looking. Ticked a lot of boxes. In real life I'm yet to meet a woman who is a genuinely passionate and well informed football fan
Then you've not met many women.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on May 20, 2019, 05:45:07 AM
Quote from: FulhamKC on May 20, 2019, 01:51:36 AM
Wow. Amazed at most of the comments on this thread. Would have expected (and certainly hoped for) better from the FFC community.
I agree. The level of naked racism and sexism on this thread leaves me gobsmacked. It seems like anytime a woman or ethnic minority get a promotion then some on here thinks it's due to political correctness. Er hello - but people from all sections of society are capable and competent.
Alex is one of the best pundits out there at the moment - she speaks with clarity and has an excellent reading of the game.
Plus one
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 18, 2019, 08:01:39 PM
Should be nowhere near the panel.
Should be at a netball game or something like that or at home washing her panties...Women talking about footie,don't make me laugh.
That other one on the red button with the half shaved head sitting agreeing with everything the male pundit says,never any controversy like the guys will argue about....Zzzzzzz...BBC full of sh++.😱😱😱😱😱
Perhaps you should be at home washing your panties?
Quote from: Twig on May 20, 2019, 07:27:30 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 18, 2019, 08:01:39 PM
Should be nowhere near the panel.
Should be at a netball game or something like that or at home washing her panties...Women talking about footie,don't make me laugh.
That other one on the red button with the half shaved head sitting agreeing with everything the male pundit says,never any controversy like the guys will argue about....Zzzzzzz...BBC full of sh++.😱😱😱😱😱
Perhaps you should be at home washing your panties?
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I never wear any.
Quote from: Twig on May 20, 2019, 07:24:17 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on May 20, 2019, 05:45:07 AM
Quote from: FulhamKC on May 20, 2019, 01:51:36 AM
Wow. Amazed at most of the comments on this thread. Would have expected (and certainly hoped for) better from the FFC community.
I agree. The level of naked racism and sexism on this thread leaves me gobsmacked. It seems like anytime a woman or ethnic minority get a promotion then some on here thinks it's due to political correctness. Er hello - but people from all sections of society are capable and competent.
Alex is one of the best pundits out there at the moment - she speaks with clarity and has an excellent reading of the game.
Plus one
Plus 2
Simply cannot believe some of the mindless comments on here who should all join the rag worm club
Quote from: HV71 on May 20, 2019, 07:49:21 AM
Quote from: Twig on May 20, 2019, 07:24:17 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on May 20, 2019, 05:45:07 AM
Quote from: FulhamKC on May 20, 2019, 01:51:36 AM
Wow. Amazed at most of the comments on this thread. Would have expected (and certainly hoped for) better from the FFC community.
I agree. The level of naked racism and sexism on this thread leaves me gobsmacked. It seems like anytime a woman or ethnic minority get a promotion then some on here thinks it's due to political correctness. Er hello - but people from all sections of society are capable and competent.
Alex is one of the best pundits out there at the moment - she speaks with clarity and has an excellent reading of the game.
Plus one
Plus 2
Simply cannot believe some of the mindless comments on here who should all join the rag worm club
Do you people ever stop to think for a minute that a lot of what is said on this forum is tongue in cheek.
You sad PC lefties really need to get a life and stop worrying about everything, you'll put yourselves in an early grave.😟
Quote from: Twig on May 20, 2019, 07:24:17 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on May 20, 2019, 05:45:07 AM
Quote from: FulhamKC on May 20, 2019, 01:51:36 AM
Wow. Amazed at most of the comments on this thread. Would have expected (and certainly hoped for) better from the FFC community.
I agree. The level of naked racism and sexism on this thread leaves me gobsmacked. It seems like anytime a woman or ethnic minority get a promotion then some on here thinks it's due to political correctness. Er hello - but people from all sections of society are capable and competent.
Alex is one of the best pundits out there at the moment - she speaks with clarity and has an excellent reading of the game.
Plus one
Plus two
Quote from: HobGoblin on May 18, 2019, 10:27:47 PM
I echo the Chris Waddle comment, is a good pundit, commentator. Enjoyable to listen too and knows his stuff far more than the bbc crew
+1
Just popping in to quickly say that Alex Scott is the best pundit the BBC have and it's not even close.
BBC coverage is fairly terrible, but Alex is a shining light in that.
About 3 years ago the BBC advertised 10 jobs in Salford (only ethnic people apply).
Why were they never taken to court?
If you had a business and advertised for White Brits only you'd be put in jail..
Tongue in cheek or not, racist or sexists comments never sit well lets face it. Some really poor posts on here.
Quote from: Statto on May 20, 2019, 09:03:25 AM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on May 20, 2019, 05:45:07 AM
The level of naked racism and sexism on this thread leaves me gobsmacked.
Oh do calm down.
Is it sexist not to like women's football? Is it racist to notice that Alex Scott is black? Is it sexist or racist not to be a fan of hers, or to observe that the BBC is actively trying to increase its proportion of female and minority group staff, particularly in prominent or well-paid roles?
There are perhaps two posts on this entire thread that are genuinely sexist and that's only if they're taken at face value, when they're patently written with tongue in cheek, albeit not funny and in somewhat poor taste.
This thread, like any debate about this sort of thing these days, is on the cusp of descending into abuse and being shut down, and as usual it's because of a few precious posters, most of whom I suspect are merely virtue-signalling and getting vicariously offended on behalf of other people rather than genuinely upset.
Maybe, just maybe, they're trying to get women's football on the map a bit more. Believe it or not, the two best footballers I know personally are women. They love the game as much, if not more than, men. Weirdly, they're both gay so before anyone say "it's probably cos they like the men in shorts", that couldn't be further from the truth.
The level of women's football is very, very good. In some cases, better than some we've played this season.
Also, I find it ironic that Fulham fans out of everyone have an issue with women and football, when Fulham has the first professional ladies team 🤷🏼♂️
And yes, black women do like football as much as white women. Quite in the same wayblack men like football as much as white men.
Even, shock horror, some homosexuals have been known to enjoy the sport too. What is world coming too, I ask you?!
Quote from: Fulham1959 on May 19, 2019, 05:37:41 PM
Quote from: MikeW on May 18, 2019, 08:20:10 PM
Fulham 1959: I'd like to know when you watched 'top class' women's football on the TV?. It is being forced on the viewer by PC TV companies who are also aware it's cheap. Last weekend some sort of Women's Premier League play off or final was reported all over the media. Just over 2000 people bothered to turn up.
England's Women International matches. Open your eyes. They are as skilful as the men, with the possible exception of the goalkeeping.
Are you on smarties.
If the men's team met the Girlies it would be 15-0 by half time...Without breaking sweat.😋
Some right dinosaurs on here
sexism /racism. now you go and introduce ageism
just need to bring disability into it and we have a full house.
Quote from: Fulham1959 on May 19, 2019, 05:37:41 PM
Quote from: MikeW on May 18, 2019, 08:20:10 PM
Fulham 1959: I'd like to know when you watched 'top class' women's football on the TV?. It is being forced on the viewer by PC TV companies who are also aware it's cheap. Last weekend some sort of Women's Premier League play off or final was reported all over the media. Just over 2000 people bothered to turn up.
England's Women International matches. Open your eyes. They are as skilful as the men, with the possible exception of the goalkeeping.
I always watch the England 🏴 Football, Rugby and Cricket International matches, there is a lot of skill and effort in those matches, and it is actually very refreshing not to see hardly and dissent or diving and feigning injuries in the football like blokes do.
Quote from: john dempsey on May 20, 2019, 02:24:47 PM
sexism /racism. now you go and introduce ageism
just need to bring disability into it and we have a full house.
Nice one, You are most definitely right about ageism which is the worst and most extreme of them all. I have had to put up with all my life through the Stone Age, the Iron Age, the Bronze Age and right up to the Cleav Age.
Quote from: john dempsey on May 20, 2019, 02:24:47 PM
sexism /racism. now you go and introduce ageism
just need to bring disability into it and we have a full house.
Trouble with you Del boy you got an "Ism"
I ain't got an Ism have I Rodney...lol
Wow so this thread reminds me nicely why I barely come on here any more.
Keep it up, you dinosaurs :54:
Quote from: PokerMatt on May 21, 2019, 09:33:33 AM
Wow so this thread reminds me nicely why I barely come on here any more.
Keep it up, you dinosaurs :54:
And there was I thinking you were thrown off because of your constant remarks about how everyone who doesn't have your extreme left wing views and idolises the ground that the racist Dianne Abbott walks on. :022:
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on May 21, 2019, 09:48:22 AM
Quote from: PokerMatt on May 21, 2019, 09:33:33 AM
Wow so this thread reminds me nicely why I barely come on here any more.
Keep it up, you dinosaurs :54:
And there was I thinking you were thrown off because of your constant remarks about how everyone who doesn't have your extreme left wing views and idolises the ground that the racist Dianne Abbott walks on. :022:
I'm glad you've been corrected then. Happy to help.
I'll bite to the Alex Scott fandom's claiming shes the best pundit going and is a beacon of light. I personally think its great she's there but blimey she add's very little to in depth analysis but then again shes not alone. I'm glad you like her, but like some of here, I wouldn't say she's quite the bastion of knowledge and insight that some of yo think. I hope my very basic criticism of her work isn't construed as racism or sexism though. One can criticise someones work whilst not being bigoted.....sadly that aspect has been lost by some here. To the actual bigoted people on here, keep it clean people. Promoting a sport that isn't popular in the hope it can become popular and boost our national game isn't a bad thing. I also think the plug to promote womans sport is also down to the fact the BBC rarely get the mens sports anymore and constantly get's priced out by competition so to offer any sport now, they go for the womans which they can afford. Maybe that's the cynic in me though.
