Big news just breaking, Poch sacked at spurs!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50480860
Ryan!! How are you feeling?
He won't be out of a job for long, wouldn't be surprised if he took over at the club that stuffed them 7-2 not so long ago.
Agree Ryan must be gutted
Benitez, Mourinho and Magath must be tweaking their cvs.
Early rumours are Jose will go there. Backwards step for them.
Warnock is also free.
Poch wont be free for long. Probably end up at real madrid.
see Parker leaves jis coaching team and he ends up getting sacked
Personally think he's well overrated anyway
Last season's Champions' League cup run aside, he's met expectations whilst at Spurs, rather than exceeding them IMO
A bit like finishing 2nd in the Championship with the current Fulham team - respectable but expected, so nothing special
Quote from: Statto on November 19, 2019, 08:23:53 PM
Personally think he's well overrated anyway
Last season's Champions' League cup run aside, he's met expectations whilst at Spurs, rather than exceeding them IMO
A bit like finishing 2nd in the Championship with the current Fulham team - respectable but expected, so nothing special
Agree....Over hyped for some reason
10 years as a manager,Espanyol, Southampton and Spurs...Trophies won....Zilch.
Eddie Howe....Shoe in.
Scotty Parker 66/1 with bookies😁
hmm could we get Sess back on the cheap if Mourinho joins he doesnt like youngsters
Quote from: Nero on November 19, 2019, 08:46:02 PM
hmm could we get Sess back on the cheap if Mourinho joins he doesnt like youngsters
Will have watched Sess a lot though as watches Fulham live quite a bit.
I understand that the whole coaching staff have been given P45's as well. At the risk of feeding fuel to the Parker out debate it would not be too daft a move for the incoming Manager to take SP and some of his team back to shore up things whilst the new staff get settled in. They know the players which is far more than the newbies will. IF an approach is made it will be a big statement from SP and Khan to say No, go away.
It's an IF of course. No evidence, insider info, sneak peeks, nuffing
Brave decision... They've done well under him relative to what went before.
I'm sure he won't be out of a job for too long.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 19, 2019, 09:20:37 PM
I understand that the whole coaching staff have been given P45's as well. At the risk of feeding fuel to the Parker out debate it would not be too daft a move for the incoming Manager to take SP and some of his team back to shore up things whilst the new staff get settled in. They know the players which is far more than the newbies will. IF an approach is made it will be a big statement from SP and Khan to say No, go away.
It's an IF of course. No evidence, insider info, sneak peeks, nuffing
Absolutely won't happen. They'll have their eyes on bigger names.
Overrated, over hyped some on here say ? The guy took an un-fancied team to a Champions League Final. He may not have won anything but under his stewardship Spurs have been transformed into contenders. Bizarre decision which I think they'll regret, particularly if they go for Mourinho.
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on November 19, 2019, 10:21:41 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 19, 2019, 09:20:37 PM
I understand that the whole coaching staff have been given P45's as well. At the risk of feeding fuel to the Parker out debate it would not be too daft a move for the incoming Manager to take SP and some of his team back to shore up things whilst the new staff get settled in. They know the players which is far more than the newbies will. IF an approach is made it will be a big statement from SP and Khan to say No, go away.
It's an IF of course. No evidence, insider info, sneak peeks, nuffing
Absolutely won't happen. They'll have their eyes on bigger names.
Big name absolutely but I was thinking about the coaching set up. Spurs could be looking for a Manager plus a back room staff of up to fifteen front line coaches, medics, Physio's etc.
I do like the fanciful notion of Warnock going there!
Oh no we are going to lose out on"the special one"
Quote from: Whitestone on November 19, 2019, 10:26:25 PM
Overrated, over hyped some on here say ? The guy took an un-fancied team to a Champions League Final. He may not have won anything but under his stewardship Spurs have been transformed into contenders. Bizarre decision which I think they'll regret, particularly if they go for Mourinho.
Unfancied team,the squad of players he's had under him,plenty of managers would have done the same and got them in top 4,imo.
Like I said 10 years in top flight football, won nothing.
Could easily prove me wrong in future, nearly always the case.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on November 19, 2019, 11:05:23 PM
I do like the fanciful notion of Warnock going there!
Yes,would love to see what he could do with some decent players to work with instead of some of the plodders in the past.
And a picture of his first day of training of him kicking Deli Ali's arse and telling him to pull himself together.😊
Remember the Glory, Double winning days under Bill Nicholson.
When they came to the Cottage in 1961 you couldn't move on the packed terraces - I wasn't able to get past the Putney End to my usual position on the Riverside terracing half- way line. I just got stuck in the packed crowd of over 38,000.
I can remember little, if anything else, about the game though apart from that - but I think it was 0-0.
Since those days Spurs have always flattered to achieve, and generally been in the shadow of bitter rivals Arsenal.
Poch has been a popular manager,but hasn't actually won anything, but seems frustrated by lack of investment, though imagine if Fulham had those players.
Quote from: RaySmith on November 20, 2019, 06:02:58 AM
Remember the Glory, Double winning days under Bill Nicholson.
When they came to the Cottage in 1961 you couldn't move on the packed terraces - I wasn't able to get past the Putney End to my usual position on the Riverside terracing half- way line. I just got stuck in the packed crowd of over 38,000.
I can remember little, if anything else, about the game though apart from that - but I think it was 0-0.
Since those days Spurs have always flattered to achieve, and generally been in the shadow of bitter rivals Arsenal.
Poch has been a popular manager,but hasn't actually won anything, but seems frustrated by lack of investment, though imagine if Fulham had those players.
Which brings me to mourinho. The man wins stuff yeah, but with the ability to spend a hell of a lot of money. Will be interesting to see how he fares with tightarse levy. But then again, if levy opens his cheque book for Jose but didn't for poch, it would seem really harsh.
Good news for Sess, Jose Mourinho watched him a lot at CC as a visitor and knows what he can do. Another manager maybe from abroad would not know him really.
Happened Quickly, so obviously been set up already.
Thought they might have given Eddie Howe a bash at the big time...Still jobs for the boys as usual.
Hope he falls flat on his face.
Such a boring, predictable appointment. Mourinho doesn't deserve the job after such a failure at Man Utd.
Still, he could thrive there as there's less pressure than he's used to. He will play up their underdog status.
Quote from: MJG on November 20, 2019, 06:53:17 AM
Good news for Sess, Jose Mourinho watched him a lot at CC as a visitor and knows what he can do. Another manager maybe from abroad would not know him really.
Yeah because Mourinho has such a good record with youngsters recently. He may at least coach him on the defensive side.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on November 20, 2019, 07:23:11 AM
Quote from: MJG on November 20, 2019, 06:53:17 AM
Good news for Sess, Jose Mourinho watched him a lot at CC as a visitor and knows what he can do. Another manager maybe from abroad would not know him really.
Yeah because Mourinho has such a good record with youngsters recently. He may at least coach him on the defensive side.
Sess is a hard worker which Jose likes and as i said he knows him and I think he will be fine.
Quote from: Art Vandelay on November 19, 2019, 07:59:35 PM
He won't be out of a job for long, wouldn't be surprised if he took over at the club that stuffed them 7-2 not so long ago.
Agree Ryan must be gutted
Agree with this. If he doesn't get that job, he'll wait for Zidane to be sacked at Real.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 20, 2019, 05:31:45 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on November 19, 2019, 10:26:25 PM
Overrated, over hyped some on here say ? The guy took an un-fancied team to a Champions League Final. He may not have won anything but under his stewardship Spurs have been transformed into contenders. Bizarre decision which I think they'll regret, particularly if they go for Mourinho.
Unfancied team,the squad of players he's had under him,plenty of managers would have done the same and got them in top 4,imo.
Like I said 10 years in top flight football, won nothing.
Could easily prove me wrong in future, nearly always the case.
Would they though? I somehow doubt it. Not only did he do well with the squad but he improved every player and England have benefited. That being said results have dipped ever since he started getting itchy feet last season, so it was inevitable he'd leave soon.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on November 20, 2019, 07:28:00 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 20, 2019, 05:31:45 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on November 19, 2019, 10:26:25 PM
Overrated, over hyped some on here say ? The guy took an un-fancied team to a Champions League Final. He may not have won anything but under his stewardship Spurs have been transformed into contenders. Bizarre decision which I think they'll regret, particularly if they go for Mourinho.
Unfancied team,the squad of players he's had under him,plenty of managers would have done the same and got them in top 4,imo.
Like I said 10 years in top flight football, won nothing.
Could easily prove me wrong in future, nearly always the case.
Would they though? I somehow doubt it. Not only did he do well with the squad but he improved every player and England have benefited. That being said results have dipped ever since he started getting itchy feet last season, so it was inevitable he'd leave soon.
Won 11 and lost 12 in 2019 in the league, not the record of a team that needs to be at the top. Can see why they sacked him.
Breaking news....Scotty Parker will be his No2,and Fulham to bring in Colin..😉
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 20, 2019, 07:49:19 AM
Breaking news....Scotty Parker will be his No2,and Fulham to bring in Colin..😉
In more breaking news a man who has temporarily lost his specs drives to Suffolk and burns down a shed. In a statement to police he said he could'nt make out what the emoji was but the message broke him. The judges concurred. 🎉
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 20, 2019, 08:31:00 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 20, 2019, 07:49:19 AM
Breaking news....Scotty Parker will be his No2,and Fulham to bring in Colin..😉
In more breaking news a man who has temporarily lost his specs drives to Suffolk and burns down a shed. In a statement to police he said he could'nt make out what the emoji was but the message broke him. The judges concurred. 🎉
Oh no not the shed,take my money,take the wife,but leave the shed alone.😊
As always in football it'll either get better with Mourinho or it'll stay the same or get worse. Is this just another case of a heartless, soulless club looking for a scapegoat when the real problem is in the boardroom? We shall see.
What I find interesting is, Jose loves spending big bucks on established players. Levy is a real tight arse (as we found out). Watch this space!
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on November 20, 2019, 07:22:07 AM
Such a boring, predictable appointment. Mourinho doesn't deserve the job after such a failure at Man Utd.
Still, he could thrive there as there's less pressure than he's used to. He will play up their underdog status.
Was Mourinho REALLY a failure at Man U though?
144 games. He won 84 of those matches, drew 32 and lost 28 - overall that gives him a relatively healthy win percentage of 58.3 percent.
Based on the relative car crash that club has been subsequently I don't think he did badly there at all in context of the situation - he got them to 2nd, they'll not be close to 2nd for some time. I agree his limitations as a manager seem constrained by ££ and he doesn't seem to favour giving youngsters a chance but don't think we can quantify him as a failure.
I think this will work out well for Sess.
Hmm I'm surprised people think this will work out better for Sess to be honest. Mourinho had much better youth prospects (no offence to Ryan) but isolated them and if anything, set them backwards. I don't think Ryan is a Mourinho type player either. Not combative or pacey enough really. Be interesting to see how it turns out but I'm sceptical.
Shocked, Mourinho and Spurs, who would have predicted that. It just doesn't fit somehow.
If the underlying problem is players not really wanting to play for the club, then we can expect Mourinho's arrival to lead to some interesting times, at least off the pitch. Expect that he's going to ostracise one or two, so better to encourage waverers.
Will Sessegnon benefit? Probably not. Think back to how good Spurs were in the FA Cup against us two seasons ago. That's how good Mourinho needs to get them. Is Sess able to play at that level? For all his qualities, seems doubtful. He might get some early run outs, but long term I'd expect Mourinho to prefer someone more bruising.
Well it will be interesting to watch the surly one perform under a chairman who historically may not give him a cheque book to use as a crutch, without the money to buy glory the surly one will Park the bus and bore the pants off of Tottenham Hotspur supporters, and the youth players might as well find another job. So If the sulky one is lucky, i give it no more than 365 days, if it's a leap year 366 days, but whenever the divorce happens it will all end in tears.
I'd only give him until the end of the transfer window in January.
Quote from: Carborundum on November 20, 2019, 11:17:11 AM
If the underlying problem is players not really wanting to play for the club, then we can expect Mourinho's arrival to lead to some interesting times, at least off the pitch. Expect that he's going to ostracise one or two, so better to encourage waverers.
Will Sessegnon benefit? Probably not. Think back to how good Spurs were in the FA Cup against us two seasons ago. That's how good Mourinho needs to get them. Is Sess able to play at that level? For all his qualities, seems doubtful. He might get some early run outs, but long term I'd expect Mourinho to prefer someone more bruising.
He will at least teach Sess how to defend
Quote from: MJG on November 20, 2019, 07:30:47 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on November 20, 2019, 07:28:00 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 20, 2019, 05:31:45 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on November 19, 2019, 10:26:25 PM
Overrated, over hyped some on here say ? The guy took an un-fancied team to a Champions League Final. He may not have won anything but under his stewardship Spurs have been transformed into contenders. Bizarre decision which I think they'll regret, particularly if they go for Mourinho.
Unfancied team,the squad of players he's had under him,plenty of managers would have done the same and got them in top 4,imo.
Like I said 10 years in top flight football, won nothing.
Could easily prove me wrong in future, nearly always the case.
Would they though? I somehow doubt it. Not only did he do well with the squad but he improved every player and England have benefited. That being said results have dipped ever since he started getting itchy feet last season, so it was inevitable he'd leave soon.
Won 11 and lost 12 in 2019 in the league, not the record of a team that needs to be at the top. Can see why they sacked him.
He wanted to leave last year and but for the compensation charge would probably have left in the summer for Real. He's lost the dressing room and leaving is probably right, but it doesn't diminish his legacy.
A couple of ex players saying on radio he orchestrated it himself, refusing to discuss tactics,and missing training...He wanted out.
Quote from: Whitestone on November 19, 2019, 10:26:25 PM
Overrated, over hyped some on here say ? The guy took an un-fancied team to a Champions League Final. He may not have won anything but under his stewardship Spurs have been transformed into contenders. Bizarre decision which I think they'll regret, particularly if they go for Mourinho.
Define "contenders". Personally can't recall ever thinking they'd win the title in the last 5 yrs. Just seem to be in the group of also-rans with Arsenal, Leicester et al competing for the lower champions' league places (albeit Leicester, unlike Spurs, did actually win the title)
Quote from: Statto on November 20, 2019, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on November 19, 2019, 10:26:25 PM
Overrated, over hyped some on here say ? The guy took an un-fancied team to a Champions League Final. He may not have won anything but under his stewardship Spurs have been transformed into contenders. Bizarre decision which I think they'll regret, particularly if they go for Mourinho.
Define "contenders". Personally can't recall ever thinking they'd win the title in the last 5 yrs. Just seem to be in the group of also-rans with Arsenal, Leicester et al competing for the lower champions' league places (albeit Leicester, unlike Spurs, did actually win the title)
I'd agree with this view, and also very over-hyped.
He had some great players there, and England have benefited from that, but even with the best squad in the world, unless the manager has the wherewithal to actually have them play together, then there is little chance of real success.
One of my issues is that Levy was more concentrating last season on making sure the faucets were the right shape for his personal mausoleum, than the team itself, and that can easily put the manager off altogether, especially one that talked about how much he would achieve with the team, but failed to produce.
As for JM, I like him and I have done since before his 'special one' tag, he had Bobby Robson as his mentor back in his early days.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 20, 2019, 02:07:10 PM
A couple of ex players saying on radio he orchestrated it himself, refusing to discuss tactics,and missing training...He wanted out.
That doesn't surprise me. He wanted to leave last year but they priced him out of a move to Real.
Apparently Brendan Rogers was first choice but turned them down.