On the verge of signing according to Sky.
Hasn't played since November, so I doubt he will walk
into the side(you never know with us).
Centre back or Left back he plays has he been bought to play centre(who drops out?) or is Bryan going and he's going to be left back,or is he just coming as back up(I doubt that)
Anyway welcome to Fulham Terence and let's hope you get your carear going again. 049:gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUna6qQ2_bc
Good video on him
Quote from: @jolslover on January 16, 2020, 07:25:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUna6qQ2_bc
Good video on him
Yes obviously has the ability let's hope he can
get it back playing for us.
If bryan is going i would leaven odoi left full and use kongolo as cover .
If bryan is going to watford i would ask for 8 million plus gray on loan for the rest of the season or if he is goin to southampton i would ask for 12 plus che adams on loan . I ask more for southampton beacuse of what happened with matt target
Looks decent but another left footed CB - to go with Ream, Mawson and MLM
Full credit to LVBPT who broke this news here two days ago. We should acknowledge our ITK`s.
Quote from: river phoenix on January 16, 2020, 08:03:21 AM
Full credit to LVBPT who broke this news here two days ago. We should acknowledge our ITK`s.
Yes👍
Never heard of him, has anyone seen him, how would you describe him
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2020, 08:10:29 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on January 16, 2020, 08:03:21 AM
Full credit to LVBPT who broke this news here two days ago. We should acknowledge our ITK`s.
Yes👍
But we still have no idea if there is any truth in this story. The ex Millwall was supposed to have signed but nothing official. Very sceptical about some of these rumours
Quote from: KeenCottager on January 16, 2020, 07:49:03 AM
Looks decent but another left footed CB - to go with Ream, Mawson and MLM
Mawson is not left footed as far as I know, but he is most used to playing on the left so your point stands.
I do not believe that this transfer would be done because we lack options, but because of Kongolo's potential to be a way better player than Ream and MLM. Thus, if we were to be promoted we would actually have a left sided CB that has proved that he can cut it in the PL (if reports are to be believed). It would be great if we could add such players already now, so that we don't have to acquire 10+ players in the summer in case of promotion. I for one do not see Ream or MLM as anything else than depth options at most in the PL.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2020, 06:42:13 AM
On the verge of signing according to Sky.
Hasn't played since November, so I doubt he will walk
into the side(you never know with us).
Centre back or Left back he plays has he been bought to play centre(who drops out?) or is Bryan going and he's going to be left back,or is he just coming as back up(I doubt that)
Anyway welcome to Fulham Terence and let's hope you get your carear going again. 049:gif
He will run in to the side.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 16, 2020, 08:25:12 AM
Never heard of him, has anyone seen him, how would you describe him
He has two arms, two legs and a head.
Does anyone know why he's not playing at Huddersfield and how much he played when they got relegated?
I've seen video's of him doing some great defending, but also know that he's a defender in a team that did get relegated in only their second season in the league and hasn't played in a championships defence for two to three months. Someone mentioned he's not played in the team since november because he wants out and is disillusioned with Huddersfield - but would he come to another Championship team and does he still have the ability that saw him play for monaco? or a relegated premiership team.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 16, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 16, 2020, 08:25:12 AM
Never heard of him, has anyone seen him, how would you describe him
He has two arms, two legs and a head.
And hips, waist, torso/stomach too I hope... maybe some hair, eyes, a mouth and ears as well.
Let's wait and see. I always like to see a defenders worst blunders
Quote from: General on January 16, 2020, 09:04:14 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 16, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 16, 2020, 08:25:12 AM
Never heard of him, has anyone seen him, how would you describe him
He has two arms, two legs and a head.
And hips, waist, torso/stomach too I hope... maybe some hair, eyes, a mouth and ears as well.
and not two left feet.
Quote from: Andy S on January 16, 2020, 09:18:22 AM
Let's wait and see. I always like to see a defenders worst blunders
Let's hope all his blunders are behind him.
Quote from: river phoenix on January 16, 2020, 08:03:21 AM
Full credit to LVBPT who broke this news here two days ago. We should acknowledge our ITK`s.
Yes, much appreciated - hopefully, he won't get so much hot air thrown at him next time 🤔
Quote from: sarnian on January 16, 2020, 08:27:05 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 16, 2020, 08:10:29 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on January 16, 2020, 08:03:21 AM
Full credit to LVBPT who broke this news here two days ago. We should acknowledge our ITK`s.
Yes👍
But we still have no idea if there is any truth in this story. The ex Millwall was supposed to have signed but nothing official. Very sceptical about some of these rumours
Probably waiting on betts to move on before we announce the new keeper
Quote from: KeenCottager on January 16, 2020, 07:49:03 AM
Looks decent but another left footed CB - to go with Ream, Mawson and MLM
MLM's career with us probably over. Ream hasn't got much longer in him at a high level. Mawson has been poor. It makes sense to try and replace players whilst you aren't desperate.
I have never seen him live, but ar 18 mill Wagner paid it showed he was highly thought of. Looking at the video, it seems he can pass, is quick, and lunges in with his long legs. If he lives up to expectations he could form a pacy centre back partnership with Hector. We have lacked pace at the back for a long time. Odd though that cowley says he is not a left back although reports say he is.
Quote from: river phoenix on January 16, 2020, 08:03:21 AM
Full credit to LVBPT who broke this news here two days ago. We should acknowledge our ITK`s.
appreciated
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 16, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 16, 2020, 08:25:12 AM
Never heard of him, has anyone seen him, how would you describe him
He has two arms, two legs and a head.
Observant of you Woolly, but can you confirm that the head is firmly screwed on.
Quote from: Chesh on January 16, 2020, 09:38:30 AM
Quote from: river phoenix on January 16, 2020, 08:03:21 AM
Full credit to LVBPT who broke this news here two days ago. We should acknowledge our ITK`s.
Yes, much appreciated - hopefully, he won't get so much hot air thrown at him next time 🤔
;-)
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on January 16, 2020, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: KeenCottager on January 16, 2020, 07:49:03 AM
Looks decent but another left footed CB - to go with Ream, Mawson and MLM
MLM's career with us probably over. Ream hasn't got much longer in him at a high level. Mawson has been poor. It makes sense to try and replace players whilst you aren't desperate.
Kongolo, Ream and MLM , all three looking for a game at either centre back or left back while Parker decides to fill the two positions with Mawson and Odoi.
We really do not need more cover, I was hoping that any signing we made in this window would be clearly better than an existing player and would be capable of commanding a regular team place and improve team performance.
So we could have
Kongolo & Archer don't exactly set my heart fluttering. I thought we were after quality players.
Quote from: filham on January 16, 2020, 12:07:48 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on January 16, 2020, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: KeenCottager on January 16, 2020, 07:49:03 AM
Looks decent but another left footed CB - to go with Ream, Mawson and MLM
MLM's career with us probably over. Ream hasn't got much longer in him at a high level. Mawson has been poor. It makes sense to try and replace players whilst you aren't desperate.
Kongolo, Ream and MLM , all three looking for a game at either centre back or left back while Parker decides to fill the two positions with Mawson and Odoi.
We really do not need more cover, I was hoping that any signing we made in this window would be clearly better than an existing player and would be capable of commanding a regular team place and improve team performance.
So we could have
Kongolo was Huddersfield's record signing at 18m, won the dutch league with Feyenoord, id a dutch international who kept Van Dijk out of the squad (admittedly this has probably changed round somewhat!). I would say he is an improvement on current form Ream and Mawson and, obviously, MLM.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 16, 2020, 12:12:38 PM
Quote from: filham on January 16, 2020, 12:07:48 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on January 16, 2020, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: KeenCottager on January 16, 2020, 07:49:03 AM
Looks decent but another left footed CB - to go with Ream, Mawson and MLM
MLM's career with us probably over. Ream hasn't got much longer in him at a high level. Mawson has been poor. It makes sense to try and replace players whilst you aren't desperate.
Kongolo, Ream and MLM , all three looking for a game at either centre back or left back while Parker decides to fill the two positions with Mawson and Odoi.
We really do not need more cover, I was hoping that any signing we made in this window would be clearly better than an existing player and would be capable of commanding a regular team place and improve team performance.
So we could have
Kongolo was Huddersfield's record signing at 18m, won the dutch league with Feyenoord, was a dutch international who kept Van Dijk out of the squad (admittedly this has probably changed round somewhat!). I would say he is an improvement on current form Ream and Mawson and, obviously, MLM.
Signed on loan
Good signing. Hopefully this is a new, positive, chapter for him. Welcome, Kongolo!
I like the idea of signing players of obvious quality when their stocks are low, especially the way this deal is structured where we are able to assess him for half a season before making a decision on the permanent option. However, I really hope that Kongolo isn't a replacement for Bryan just like I hope Archer isn't Bett's replacement as both swaps would make our squad weaker.
Quote from: grandad on January 16, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
Kongolo & Archer don't exactly set my heart fluttering. I thought we were after quality players.
Kongolo was and should still be quality and as for Archer he is an upgrade on Betts, plus signing Cav on a permanent is good business, don't forget we are governed by FFP
Quote from: KeenCottager on January 16, 2020, 07:49:03 AM
Looks decent but another left footed CB - to go with Ream, Mawson and MLM
Wondering if with him up to scratch we'd go with a back three and two wing backs who would then have more freedom to play further forward.
Kongolo-mawson/ream-Hector?
Pleased we have signed Terence Kongolo. He's obviously got a quality player's pedigree. Life deals out professional setbacks and we are generally better, stronger people as a result. So not worried about his Huddersfield track record. They could hardly get the ball out of their own half last season and it didn't seem to be his fault.
Quote from: Matt10 on January 16, 2020, 12:25:57 PM
Good signing. Hopefully this is a new, positive, chapter for him. Welcome, Kongolo!
Have I missed something?
Quote from: KJS on January 16, 2020, 01:19:51 PM
Quote from: grandad on January 16, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
Kongolo & Archer don't exactly set my heart fluttering. I thought we were after quality players.
Kongolo was and should still be quality and as for Archer he is an upgrade on Betts, plus signing Cav on a permanent is good business, don't forget we are governed by FFP
Agree about Kongolo. He has pace and frankly we need that. Him being out of favour is a mystery to me so a loan makes sense. But as for Archer. He is no improvement on Betts. I am hoping he is behind Norman and just cover.
I wonder if Kongolo coming in will mean that we play three at the back with wing backs further forward
Rodak
Mawson Hector Kongolo
Odoi Bryan (if he stays)
Reed Cairney
Knock Cav
Mitro
Is this official?
https://fmdataba.com/compare/147477-terence-kongolo-148339-tim-ream/ (https://fmdataba.com/compare/147477-terence-kongolo-148339-tim-ream/)
I'm excited about the beginnings of a new defence, we've needed it addressing and now the overhaul is becoming clear Hector, Mawson, Kongolo at the back with 2 wing backs could be really interesting. On paper a good mix of height, strength, athleticism, some pace and passing ability all round.
Lets hope it materialises. Now all Id love to see is 2 speedy full backs capable of tearing up and down the line ala Frederick's. Would love Fossey to come good if he can finally overcome his injuries or Sess for that matter. But if Bryan does go I presume that's where the money will go. LB and RB
I watched the youtube. He looks wreckless.
Half the tackles risked being sent off... not sure this is good or not.
There is a video on Youtube of his Feynord days and he definitely looks to be more of a LB in some of the clips?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A70IrEX6L8
Does anyone know his natural position?
Half tackles looked liked being sent off?? You tube provides a selective viewing.Cheer up for gods sake.
Welcome to FFC TG.
Quote from: ALG01 on January 16, 2020, 04:07:15 PM
I watched the youtube. He looks wreckless.
Half the tackles risked being sent off... not sure this is good or not.
"I want to dislike him before he's even kicked a ball for us, what can I say to justify my opinion?"
Never known a defender being a tough tackler a reason to doubt their quality, better to get stuck in in a league like the championship than shirk tackles, is it not??
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 16, 2020, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on January 16, 2020, 04:07:15 PM
I watched the youtube. He looks wreckless.
Half the tackles risked being sent off... not sure this is good or not.
"I want to dislike him before he's even kicked a ball for us, what can I say to justify my opinion?"
Never known a defender being a tough tackler a reason to doubt their quality, better to get stuck in in a league like the championship than shirk tackles, is it not??
I am not sure I even remotely said anything like that. The youtube videos are very misleading IMO but the clips shown here trying to show how good heis seem to me wreckless. I saw a feyenroord selection too and he is just the same... if that is representtive then he seems to rely on his speed and timing to get the challenges in... if he does it every time wonderful but I suspect he may get a lot of cards and nmopt last 90 minutes vbased on current refereeing... BUT I will make up mind on what I see if he comes not on this.
Lots of reports that we have signed this player but nothing on offal as yet ?
Quote from: ALG01 on January 16, 2020, 04:44:47 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 16, 2020, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on January 16, 2020, 04:07:15 PM
I watched the youtube. He looks wreckless.
Half the tackles risked being sent off... not sure this is good or not.
"I want to dislike him before he's even kicked a ball for us, what can I say to justify my opinion?"
Never known a defender being a tough tackler a reason to doubt their quality, better to get stuck in in a league like the championship than shirk tackles, is it not??
I am not sure I even remotely said anything like that. The youtube videos are very misleading IMO but the clips shown here trying to show how good heis seem to me wreckless. I saw a feyenroord selection too and he is just the same... if that is representtive then he seems to rely on his speed and timing to get the challenges in... if he does it every time wonderful but I suspect he may get a lot of cards and nmopt last 90 minutes vbased on current refereeing... BUT I will make up mind on what I see if he comes not on this.
Then I can maybe ease your mind with some facts that are very easily acquired by anyone and fairly trustworthy:
- Kongolo has played 200+ professional games, of which he played the full 90 minutes the vast majority.
- He has been shown a yellow card roughly every 10 games of his professional career so far,
- That would mean that he wouldn't even be suspended once in the Championship for accrued yellow cards if he kept that average.
- He has on one occasion only been sent off because of two yellow cards.
- He has never been shown a straight red card.
Even though it may all be coincidences, quite the decent sample size suggests that he is not a player that is reckless (at least not to the extent that he gets himself sent of or suspended). While the refs in the Championship are not very good, I don't believe they are much more prone to show cards than the refs in the Netherlands or the PL.
Quote from: Sting of the North on January 16, 2020, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on January 16, 2020, 04:44:47 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 16, 2020, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on January 16, 2020, 04:07:15 PM
I watched the youtube. He looks wreckless.
Half the tackles risked being sent off... not sure this is good or not.
"I want to dislike him before he's even kicked a ball for us, what can I say to justify my opinion?"
Never known a defender being a tough tackler a reason to doubt their quality, better to get stuck in in a league like the championship than shirk tackles, is it not??
I am not sure I even remotely said anything like that. The youtube videos are very misleading IMO but the clips shown here trying to show how good heis seem to me wreckless. I saw a feyenroord selection too and he is just the same... if that is representtive then he seems to rely on his speed and timing to get the challenges in... if he does it every time wonderful but I suspect he may get a lot of cards and nmopt last 90 minutes vbased on current refereeing... BUT I will make up mind on what I see if he comes not on this.
Then I can maybe ease your mind with some facts that are very easily acquired by anyone and fairly trustworthy:
- Kongolo has played 200+ professional games, of which he played the full 90 minutes the vast majority.
- He has been shown a yellow card roughly every 10 games of his professional career so far,
- That would mean that he wouldn't even be suspended once in the Championship for accrued yellow cards if he kept that average.
- He has on one occasion only been sent off because of two yellow cards.
- He has never been shown a straight red card.
Even though it may all be coincidences, quite the decent sample size suggests that he is not a player that is reckless (at least not to the extent that he gets himself sent of or suspended). While the refs in the Championship are not very good, I don't believe they are much more prone to show cards than the refs in the Netherlands or the PL.
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Its difficult to equate the differences between leagues. Some make the switch and others don't. Still, the dude is 6'2", has pace and seems fearless. Seems like a good punt to me. Bring him on. At worst he'll be good cover.
He makes plenty of tackles - hence the Huddersfield song (I think)......
'Whoao, he's magic, you,knoooooooow - you'll never get past Kong-o-lo!
:wow:
Quote from: Statto on January 16, 2020, 05:57:15 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on January 16, 2020, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on January 16, 2020, 04:44:47 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 16, 2020, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on January 16, 2020, 04:07:15 PM
I watched the youtube. He looks wreckless.
Half the tackles risked being sent off... not sure this is good or not.
"I want to dislike him before he's even kicked a ball for us, what can I say to justify my opinion?"
Never known a defender being a tough tackler a reason to doubt their quality, better to get stuck in in a league like the championship than shirk tackles, is it not??
I am not sure I even remotely said anything like that. The youtube videos are very misleading IMO but the clips shown here trying to show how good heis seem to me wreckless. I saw a feyenroord selection too and he is just the same... if that is representtive then he seems to rely on his speed and timing to get the challenges in... if he does it every time wonderful but I suspect he may get a lot of cards and nmopt last 90 minutes vbased on current refereeing... BUT I will make up mind on what I see if he comes not on this.
Then I can maybe ease your mind with some facts that are very easily acquired by anyone and fairly trustworthy:
- Kongolo has played 200+ professional games, of which he played the full 90 minutes the vast majority.
- He has been shown a yellow card roughly every 10 games of his professional career so far,
- That would mean that he wouldn't even be suspended once in the Championship for accrued yellow cards if he kept that average.
- He has on one occasion only been sent off because of two yellow cards.
- He has never been shown a straight red card.
Even though it may all be coincidences, quite the decent sample size suggests that he is not a player that is reckless (at least not to the extent that he gets himself sent of or suspended). While the refs in the Championship are not very good, I don't believe they are much more prone to show cards than the refs in the Netherlands or the PL.
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That is impressive. I am sure if he signs you will allow me to worry... the modern rules are at issue and what i saw seems dangerous but if he is that skilled, brilliant.
Quote from: YankeeJim on January 16, 2020, 06:14:51 PM
Still, the dude is 6'2", has pace and seems fearless. Seems like a good punt to me. Bring him on. At worst he'll be good cover.
This. Love a good tackle, it's all part of winning the personal battle. A couple of good ones in the Feyenoord clip, but also some blocks suggesting decent positioning and arguably poor shot direction by the striker. A theatrical dive in the opposition box rather less impressive, but we haven't bought him for that end of the pitch.
As always, YouTube videos are to players what preseason friendlies are to teams. A notoriously unreliable guide. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best whilst cheering him on.
Quote from: KJS on January 16, 2020, 01:19:51 PM
Quote from: grandad on January 16, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
Kongolo & Archer don't exactly set my heart fluttering. I thought we were after quality players.
Kongolo was and should still be quality and as for Archer he is an upgrade on Betts, plus signing Cav on a permanent is good business, don't forget we are governed by FFP
Archer is certainly no upgrade on Betts. Whenever I have watched Archer he has been extremely poor; but as he is now a fulham player I will support him until he gives me enough reasons not to!
Oh man...I wanted Antonee Robinson...but this guy may be able to beat out Joe for that starting LB spot.
Glad this transfer window saw TWO players over 6' coming in to shore up our short back line. This looks like a great pickup this window, but only time will tell.
Quote from: Chesh on January 16, 2020, 06:17:52 PM
He makes plenty of tackles - hence the Huddersfield song (I think)......
'Whoao, he's magic, you,knoooooooow - you'll never get past Kong-o-lo!
i really like that song, is plagiarism wrong in football songs
Quote from: filham on January 16, 2020, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 16, 2020, 08:38:19 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on January 16, 2020, 08:25:12 AM
Never heard of him, has anyone seen him, how would you describe him
He has two arms, two legs and a head.
Observant of you Woolly, but can you confirm that the head is firmly screwed on.
You are ahead of me there. Let's hope he can head a ball and not just a search party.
