Quote from: New Kid on the Block on April 19, 2021, 12:31:55 PMI'm with you on this one. I don't want to watch any more negative football either. He falls out with everyone eventually, plus the kids would never get a look in either.
Absolutely no way. The man is toxic.
Quote from: Willham on April 19, 2021, 03:00:10 PM0001.jpeg and no, I wouldn't want him at FFC.
Right, why do people believe Jose Mourinho would walk us back into the prem?
I mean hes took a very good tottenham side, the media keeps hammering on about Tottenham were 17th when he took over, yes but a few months before that they were champions league finalist, they still had that team, by saying mourinho has done well at tottenham would be saying pochettino is a god because that is a fantastic team and mourinho has made it so boring to watch
And he did the same with United, look at them now with a coach like ole, who I still dont rate that highly but hats off to him, we all were saying Uniteds team was crap and mourinho wasn't to blame but oles done a much better job.
And his return to chelsea was the same.
Mourinho is a has been, would you still play gascoigne now? No gascoigne isnt good enough any more and Mourinho is the same. A few good years are never forgotten but when people consistently fail afterwards ot means their not as good.
A bit like RLC, just because he played quite well for a bit doesnt mean he'll ever play like that again.
Mourinho would ruin our team further!
Quote from: New Kid on the Block on April 19, 2021, 12:31:55 PM
Absolutely no way. The man is toxic.
Quote from: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
NO! A barge pole comes into this. :031: :031:
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Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 04:08:21 PMQuote from: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
NO! A barge pole comes into this. :031: :031:
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Again, why not Mr BOG? What is it about him you dislike so much? No one can say he hasn't had a successful career and we could be the challenge he needs.
Quote from: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:15:48 PMQuote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 04:08:21 PMQuote from: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
NO! A barge pole comes into this. :031: :031:
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Again, why not Mr BOG? What is it about him you dislike so much? No one can say he hasn't had a successful career and we could be the challenge he needs.
Because he has become a caricature of himself. He now makes squads worse, loves the limelight with his stupid face pulling for the cameras on the touchline and plays awful football. That's why.
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Quote from: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
NO! A barge pole comes into this. :031: :031:
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Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 19, 2021, 05:54:45 PM
haha as if he would 'ever' consider Fulham lol
Jose Mourinho's win percentage by club:
— 90min (@90min_Football) April 19, 2021
‣ FC Porto: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 1): 67%
‣ Inter: 63%
‣ Real Madrid: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 2): 59%
‣ Man United: 58%
‣ Tottenham: 51% pic.twitter.com/kVBydSCoes
Quote from: Pluto on April 19, 2021, 09:01:52 PM
Of course. Like him or loathe him, he's one of the best and most successful managers of all time and we are currently managed by Scott Parker. No brainer.
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.
If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.
Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.
He's just not a very good manager anymore.
His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gambleJose Mourinho's win percentage by club:
— 90min (@90min_Football) April 19, 2021
‣ FC Porto: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 1): 67%
‣ Inter: 63%
‣ Real Madrid: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 2): 59%
‣ Man United: 58%
‣ Tottenham: 51% pic.twitter.com/kVBydSCoes
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.
If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.
Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.
He's just not a very good manager anymore.
His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gambleJose Mourinho's win percentage by club:
— 90min (@90min_Football) April 19, 2021
‣ FC Porto: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 1): 67%
‣ Inter: 63%
‣ Real Madrid: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 2): 59%
‣ Man United: 58%
‣ Tottenham: 51% pic.twitter.com/kVBydSCoes
Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 10:01:44 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.
If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.
Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.
He's just not a very good manager anymore.
His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gambleJose Mourinho's win percentage by club:
— 90min (@90min_Football) April 19, 2021
‣ FC Porto: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 1): 67%
‣ Inter: 63%
‣ Real Madrid: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 2): 59%
‣ Man United: 58%
‣ Tottenham: 51% pic.twitter.com/kVBydSCoes
Look at the stats Simply and tell me you wouldn't love them at FFC. He has taken 151 points out of a possible 258. Who's clueless????
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 10:34:07 PMQuote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 10:01:44 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.
If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.
Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.
He's just not a very good manager anymore.
His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gambleJose Mourinho's win percentage by club:
— 90min (@90min_Football) April 19, 2021
‣ FC Porto: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 1): 67%
‣ Inter: 63%
‣ Real Madrid: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 2): 59%
‣ Man United: 58%
‣ Tottenham: 51% pic.twitter.com/kVBydSCoes
Look at the stats Simply and tell me you wouldn't love them at FFC. He has taken 151 points out of a possible 258. Who's clueless????
He has two of the worlds best footballers at his disposal.
Whichever way you want to slice it, it's a poor return.
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 10:34:07 PMQuote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 10:01:44 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.
If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.
Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.
He's just not a very good manager anymore.
His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gambleJose Mourinho's win percentage by club:
— 90min (@90min_Football) April 19, 2021
‣ FC Porto: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 1): 67%
‣ Inter: 63%
‣ Real Madrid: 71%
‣ Chelsea (Part 2): 59%
‣ Man United: 58%
‣ Tottenham: 51% pic.twitter.com/kVBydSCoes
Look at the stats Simply and tell me you wouldn't love them at FFC. He has taken 151 points out of a possible 258. Who's clueless????
He has two of the worlds best footballers at his disposal.
Whichever way you want to slice it, it's a poor return.
Quote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PMQuote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.
It literally says nothing.
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PMMmmm. Isn't that 22 more trophies than we have won in 130 years?Quote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.Quote from: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PMQuote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.
It literally says nothing.
It literally says nothing.
Quote from: St Eve on April 21, 2021, 03:08:18 AMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PMMmmm. Isn't that 22 more trophies than we have won in 130 years?Quote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.Quote from: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PMQuote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.
It literally says nothing.
It literally says nothing.
Quote from: YankeeJim on April 19, 2021, 05:06:47 PM
He is so dam egotistical. NNNnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Quote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'.
Quote from: WindyCity on April 21, 2021, 04:00:56 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on April 19, 2021, 05:06:47 PM
He is so dam egotistical. NNNnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
This mostly for me why I don't want this egotistical asshat managing my club. Yes he has had much success in his managing career, but I do think things have dropped off for him in recent years, with some rather quick sackings. And yes, he has become a sort of caricature. Not sure what of, but seems more a cartoon than anything else. And that massive ego rubs me the wrong way. NO TY!!
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on April 21, 2021, 05:59:49 PM
Not way. The Donald Trump of football.
Quote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:38:39 PMQuote from: WindyCity on April 21, 2021, 04:00:56 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on April 19, 2021, 05:06:47 PM
He is so dam egotistical. NNNnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
This mostly for me why I don't want this egotistical asshat managing my club. Yes he has had much success in his managing career, but I do think things have dropped off for him in recent years, with some rather quick sackings. And yes, he has become a sort of caricature. Not sure what of, but seems more a cartoon than anything else. And that massive ego rubs me the wrong way. NO TY!!
Maybe we need some of that "EGO" to make us into the club we'd like to be. If you are happy being a "YOYO" club fair enough, but I personally would love us to bring home trophy's and win the league. I guess it all boils down to whether or not you want Fulham to develop, or remain the same as we have for years. Funny how no one moaned about success when we got to the final of the Europa Cup eh?
Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 12:24:48 PMReally outdid yourself with this post Bongo
I wouldn't think twice.
Quote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'.
Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time
Quote from: Holders on April 19, 2021, 01:13:12 PMQuote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 12:24:48 PM
I wouldn't think twice.
Neither would I.
NO.
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'.
Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time
What are you on?
Quote from: blingo on April 22, 2021, 10:20:41 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'.
Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time
What are you on?
Look up the facts before making silly comments and embarrassing yourself.
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 03:31:53 PMQuote from: blingo on April 22, 2021, 10:20:41 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'.
Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time
What are you on?
Look up the facts before making silly comments and embarrassing yourself.
1. Sir Alex Ferguson (48 Titles)
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2. Mircea Lucescu (32 Titles)
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3. Valeriy Lobanovskyi (29 Titles)
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4. Pep Guardiola (27 Titles)
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5. Jock Stein (26 Titles)
... and that's before we even talk about successful managers who don't have the trophy haul to match their influence on the game like Paisley, Cruyff, Michels or Wenger.
But hey, don't let facts get in the way of dodgy opinion there Blingo :54:
Quote from: Chrismmo on April 21, 2021, 10:36:32 AM
He would bring in great players on his reputation alone and would guarantee a return to the prem (if needed).
It will never happen though.
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 04:58:46 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 03:31:53 PMQuote from: blingo on April 22, 2021, 10:20:41 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'.
Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time
What are you on?
Look up the facts before making silly comments and embarrassing yourself.
1. Sir Alex Ferguson (48 Titles)
-
2. Mircea Lucescu (32 Titles)
-
3. Valeriy Lobanovskyi (29 Titles)
-
4. Pep Guardiola (27 Titles)
-
5. Jock Stein (26 Titles)
... and that's before we even talk about successful managers who don't have the trophy haul to match their influence on the game like Paisley, Cruyff, Michels or Wenger.
But hey, don't let facts get in the way of dodgy opinion there Blingo :54:
No lets not
https://howtheyplay.com/team-sports/Top-10-Best-Football-Managers-In-The-World
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 04:58:46 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 03:31:53 PMQuote from: blingo on April 22, 2021, 10:20:41 PMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'.
Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time
What are you on?
Look up the facts before making silly comments and embarrassing yourself.
1. Sir Alex Ferguson (48 Titles)
-
2. Mircea Lucescu (32 Titles)
-
3. Valeriy Lobanovskyi (29 Titles)
-
4. Pep Guardiola (27 Titles)
-
5. Jock Stein (26 Titles)
... and that's before we even talk about successful managers who don't have the trophy haul to match their influence on the game like Paisley, Cruyff, Michels or Wenger.
But hey, don't let facts get in the way of dodgy opinion there Blingo :54:
No lets not
https://howtheyplay.com/team-sports/Top-10-Best-Football-Managers-In-The-World
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 06:44:02 PM
He has loads left to offer. You don't become a bad manager overnight.
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 05:12:40 PMWe'd def get worse under him
Whichever stats you go by, JM is one of the worlds best managers and I for one would love to see him at Fulham.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 24, 2021, 12:01:24 AM
I feel JM is a busted flush and like a lot of managers of the so called top clubs can only succeed with an open cheque book. I cannot see him coming here even if Fulham begged him, plus I would not particularly want him.
He is far too defensive minded and falls out with people wherever he goes.
Quote from: perry geyton on April 23, 2021, 10:44:19 PMQuote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 05:12:40 PMWe'd def get worse under him
Whichever stats you go by, JM is one of the worlds best managers and I for one would love to see him at Fulham.
Take the day off Bongo
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 08:47:26 PMQuote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 06:44:02 PM
He has loads left to offer. You don't become a bad manager overnight.
No you don't, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that. But in his case he has slowly become a less effective manager over a 10 year decline.
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 09:47:46 AMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 08:47:26 PMQuote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 06:44:02 PM
He has loads left to offer. You don't become a bad manager overnight.
No you don't, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that. But in his case he has slowly become a less effective manager over a 10 year decline.
Whichever ratings you look at, they are all in the eyes of the person writing them in their way, but this is about Mourinho and however you look at it, the man is a TOP rated football manager. Do we all have periods in life where things don't quite work out? Of course we do, but to think/say/believe that he isn't a MASSIVE improvement on our current manager is to argue for the sake of arguing. Love him or loathe him he is still a class act. A 25% Mourinho would be much better than 100% parker.
Quote from: Willham on April 24, 2021, 10:15:12 AMQuote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 09:47:46 AMQuote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 08:47:26 PMQuote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 06:44:02 PM
He has loads left to offer. You don't become a bad manager overnight.
No you don't, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that. But in his case he has slowly become a less effective manager over a 10 year decline.
Whichever ratings you look at, they are all in the eyes of the person writing them in their way, but this is about Mourinho and however you look at it, the man is a TOP rated football manager. Do we all have periods in life where things don't quite work out? Of course we do, but to think/say/believe that he isn't a MASSIVE improvement on our current manager is to argue for the sake of arguing. Love him or loathe him he is still a class act. A 25% Mourinho would be much better than 100% parker.
I disagree, one thing parker has done very well is getting our team playing for one another, which is what's needed to fight for survival, in mouringos last 3 teams hes demolished the work for each other thesis.
I dont think Mourinho would do a better job than parker, I fully believe he would struggle with our team.
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 09:41:58 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 24, 2021, 12:01:24 AM
I feel JM is a busted flush and like a lot of managers of the so called top clubs can only succeed with an open cheque book. I cannot see him coming here even if Fulham begged him, plus I would not particularly want him.
He is far too defensive minded and falls out with people wherever he goes.
I don't think he's a busted flush at all Woolly, he's still a very very good manager. However, I don't think he would ever come to us either. Would I like to see him at FFC 100% yes, I'd settle for a 50% win rate in the premiership.
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 11:43:25 AMThen again Mr B, that is just an assumption, there is no way you can say for certain that another manager would have kept us up, but of course you are entitled to make that assumption.
Parker has done nothing more than put us in a situation where we are going to be relegated. A good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have.
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 11:43:25 AM
Parker has done nothing more than put us in a situation where we are going to be relegated. A good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have.
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 11:43:25 AM
Parker has done nothing more than put us in a situation where we are going to be relegated. A good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have.
Quote from: Twig on April 24, 2021, 04:38:36 PMQuote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 11:43:25 AM
Parker has done nothing more than put us in a situation where we are going to be relegated. A good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have.
Well actually he got us promoted so your statement is factually incorrect. As to whether "a good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have". I think that's debatable. I agree that Scottt has made mistakes and I'm no fan of his rather negative mmindset and granted we have a few very decent players. However we also have areas of obvious wakness, our squad is hopelessley unbalanceda nd we have a history of investing in injury prone players (thanks TK).