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Title: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 19, 2021, 12:24:48 PM
I wouldn't think twice.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: jayffc on April 19, 2021, 12:28:12 PM
much as I cant stand him a lot of the time. If it's a choice of him or Parker I know probably I'd sooner watch Mourinho's boring football than Scotts. And as a championship team, he'd attract players to the project.
But that's more indicative of how little I've enjoyed the majority of Scott's tactic than an endorsement of Jose.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: New Kid on the Block on April 19, 2021, 12:31:55 PM
Absolutely no way. The man is toxic.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: FFC In Oz on April 19, 2021, 12:53:25 PM
Don't think it's realistic at all, but I wouldn't hesitate.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: rebel on April 19, 2021, 12:57:53 PM
Huge compensation package if he was to be sacked. £5m plus.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9486847/Jose-Mourinho-walk-away-Tottenham-HUGE-compensation-package-worth-16MILLION.html
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Southcoastffc on April 19, 2021, 12:59:29 PM
If a choice between him and Scott Parker, yes. 
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Fulham 442 on April 19, 2021, 01:07:25 PM
Quote from: New Kid on the Block on April 19, 2021, 12:31:55 PM
Absolutely no way. The man is toxic.
I'm with you on this one.  I don't want to watch any more negative football either.  He falls out with everyone eventually, plus the kids would never get a look in either.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Holders on April 19, 2021, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 12:24:48 PM
I wouldn't think twice.

Neither would I.

NO.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Craven Mad on April 19, 2021, 01:19:10 PM
You know, strange as it may be, I can actually see him coming here: he knows and likes the area, lives in London already and has (or had) his son playing in our youth teams. We also have an owner with a squad to rebuild and cash to burn, so could see Jose being given a decent transfer kitty (albeit modest compared to his previous clubs).

I'm not a fan, but can't see us attracting a better option right now. So, for the right wages/package, it seems like a ridiculous (in a good way) option to me...

Could finally take us on a path to becoming a 'Manchester of the South', etc...
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: South Coast White on April 19, 2021, 01:26:51 PM
We all know he can be a bit frustrating at times but with his experience and winning mentality I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Nick Bateman on April 19, 2021, 02:52:43 PM
José Mourinho would be a massive coup for Fulham. What is Tottenham's loss could be Fulham's gain. Whatever your own opinion is of him, he is a high profile manager and vastly experienced. Khan would perhaps need to open his wallet but we would breeze through the Championship and be looking at top half of the PL not another relegation dog-fight as under Parker.

My alternative would be a Parker/Jokanovic co-management which would see the best out of Mitrovic next season.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Willham on April 19, 2021, 03:00:10 PM
Right, why do people believe Jose Mourinho would walk us back into the prem?

I mean hes took a very good tottenham side, the media keeps hammering on about Tottenham were 17th when he took over, yes but a few months before that they were champions league finalist, they still had that team, by saying mourinho has done well at tottenham would be saying pochettino is a god because that is a fantastic team and mourinho has made it so boring to watch

And he did the same with United, look at them now with a coach like ole, who I still dont rate that highly but hats off to him, we all were saying Uniteds team was crap and mourinho wasn't to blame but oles done a much better job.

And his return to chelsea was the same.

Mourinho is a has been, would you still play gascoigne now? No gascoigne isnt good enough any more and Mourinho is the same. A few good years are never forgotten but when people consistently fail afterwards ot means their not as good.

A bit like RLC, just because he played quite well for a bit doesnt mean he'll ever play like that again.

Mourinho would ruin our team further!
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: ScalleysDad on April 19, 2021, 03:18:38 PM
Anything is possible these days especially it seems at our Club. However the very foundations of the Club and the senior positions in the hierarchy would have to be completely reset just to accommodate him and then of course there is his need to spend and spend big.
Of all the fanciful and highly unlikely candidates put forward as Parker's 'possible' replacement this is up there with Benitez which is why I can't take it too seriously but as I said anything is possible.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: filham on April 19, 2021, 03:23:08 PM
No thank you ,he was never a good fit for Spurs and he would be even worse for us. Also it would be yet another short term appointment.
England surely has had enough of Mourinho , he now needs to be re packaged and delivered to a club in Europe to manage a team in the new Super league.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: rebel on April 19, 2021, 03:41:59 PM
Mourinho was having a hard time at Tottenham, I wonder if there is an element of it's a perfect storm for him to go now under the cloud of 'Super League' as the perfect excuse.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: rebel on April 19, 2021, 03:43:00 PM
Can anyone see the Khan's stumping up £20m as compensation for termination of contract?
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: love4ffc on April 19, 2021, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: Willham on April 19, 2021, 03:00:10 PM
Right, why do people believe Jose Mourinho would walk us back into the prem?

I mean hes took a very good tottenham side, the media keeps hammering on about Tottenham were 17th when he took over, yes but a few months before that they were champions league finalist, they still had that team, by saying mourinho has done well at tottenham would be saying pochettino is a god because that is a fantastic team and mourinho has made it so boring to watch

And he did the same with United, look at them now with a coach like ole, who I still dont rate that highly but hats off to him, we all were saying Uniteds team was crap and mourinho wasn't to blame but oles done a much better job.

And his return to chelsea was the same.

Mourinho is a has been, would you still play gascoigne now? No gascoigne isnt good enough any more and Mourinho is the same. A few good years are never forgotten but when people consistently fail afterwards ot means their not as good.

A bit like RLC, just because he played quite well for a bit doesnt mean he'll ever play like that again.

Mourinho would ruin our team further!
0001.jpeg  and no, I wouldn't want him at FFC. 
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 19, 2021, 03:47:03 PM
Quote from: New Kid on the Block on April 19, 2021, 12:31:55 PM
Absolutely no way. The man is toxic.

In what way?????
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: WindyCity on April 19, 2021, 04:00:26 PM
No thank you
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 19, 2021, 04:03:23 PM
Why not? Anderson and Areola might even stay if JM was our manager. It would also be a big battery charger for JM to prove he can take an underperforming side and make it a success.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
NO! A barge pole comes into this.  :031: :031:

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Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 19, 2021, 04:08:21 PM
Quote from: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
NO! A barge pole comes into this.  :031: :031:

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Again, why not Mr BOG? What is it about him you dislike so much? No one can say he hasn't had a successful career and we could be the challenge he needs.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 04:08:21 PM
Quote from: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
NO! A barge pole comes into this.  :031: :031:

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Again, why not Mr BOG? What is it about him you dislike so much? No one can say he hasn't had a successful career and we could be the challenge he needs.

Because he has become a caricature of himself. He now makes squads worse, loves the limelight with his stupid face pulling for the cameras on the touchline and plays awful football.  That's why.

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Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on April 19, 2021, 04:16:45 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 19, 2021, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 04:08:21 PM
Quote from: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
NO! A barge pole comes into this.  :031: :031:

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Again, why not Mr BOG? What is it about him you dislike so much? No one can say he hasn't had a successful career and we could be the challenge he needs.

Because he has become a caricature of himself. He now makes squads worse, loves the limelight with his stupid face pulling for the cameras on the touchline and plays awful football.  That's why.

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So you don't think that he would be a massive improvement over Parker????
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: YankeeJim on April 19, 2021, 05:06:47 PM
He is so dam egotistical. NNNnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on April 19, 2021, 05:08:25 PM
Quote from: bog on April 19, 2021, 04:05:35 PM
NO! A barge pole comes into this.  :031: :031:

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I would touch Mourinho with my barge pole.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: roberto w6 on April 19, 2021, 05:29:09 PM
I'd love a big name not least for the ability to attract big name players
But, it would be short-term, I'm not sure he'd be up to promoting us and his start is in rapid descent: Chelsea (last spell), Man U, Spurs. We're moaning about Parkerball but, from what my mates who follow his last 3 clubs tell me, Mourinho would make it look like Brazil 70. Strange because his first spell at Chelsea was, from what I remember, quite attacking.
We don't need him as much as it would be enjoyable seeing him psych out other managers
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on April 19, 2021, 05:31:52 PM
NO, never! He would be a horrible match for us. Even more boring, negative anti-football. And even if he did get some initial good results he would still leave the club in flames in 2-3 years, MAX.

But sadly I suspect TK might find it cool to hire a celebrity manager like Mourinho and he's probably the only one of those who MIGHT consider Fulham. I hope not...
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: ex-Pat on April 19, 2021, 05:48:33 PM
Sign him up right now,,we are the only failing club in the Premiership that keeps hold of the manager,JOKE..
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: 3 Cherries on April 19, 2021, 05:54:45 PM
haha as if he would 'ever' consider Fulham lol
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Sgt Fulham on April 19, 2021, 06:21:13 PM
Absolute no brainer of a yes for me. Would be a coup for Fulham, let's not pretend otherwise.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: GrumpyWhite on April 19, 2021, 07:22:13 PM
No thank you
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 19, 2021, 08:36:56 PM
Can anyone on here honestly say that he would not be an improvement over Parker?
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: @jolslover on April 19, 2021, 08:50:13 PM
Yeh that would be class
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Pluto on April 19, 2021, 09:01:52 PM
Of course. Like him or loathe him, he's one of the best and most successful managers of all time and we are currently managed by Scott Parker. No brainer.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 19, 2021, 09:31:36 PM
Quote from: 3 Cherries on April 19, 2021, 05:54:45 PM
haha as if he would 'ever' consider Fulham lol

But would he consider your two teams both Bournemouth & Boscombe
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.

If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.

Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.

He's just not a very good manager anymore.

His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gamble

Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: YankeeJim on April 19, 2021, 09:55:57 PM
Quote from: Pluto on April 19, 2021, 09:01:52 PM
Of course. Like him or loathe him, he's one of the best and most successful managers of all time and we are currently managed by Scott Parker. No brainer.

Clearly the man has a good press agent. His 1 1/2 to 2+ year stints at clubs is always followed by turmoil and failure. Your listening to the hype. Take a look at his record and tell me how temporary (very) success at a club is what Fulham needs. He doesn't build clubs. He is like a corporate raider who zips in, rapes the club and moves on. If he came to the Cottage and had a bit of success, he'd use it to leverage a move to a bigger club. If he wasn't successful, he'd throw a temper tantrum, and move on.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Nero on April 19, 2021, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.

If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.

Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.

He's just not a very good manager anymore.

His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gamble



Think people said the same about Moyes.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 19, 2021, 10:01:44 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.

If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.

Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.

He's just not a very good manager anymore.

His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gamble




Look at the stats Simply and tell me you wouldn't love them at FFC. He has taken 151 points out of a possible 258.  Who's clueless????
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: clarkey on April 19, 2021, 10:09:28 PM
Not for me, I think he has lost his charm and he looks severely demotivated to me.

BUT I would think seriously about a big money purchase of Tammy from Chels to go with his brother. Buy him and he could be our 30 goals a season Louis Saha Mk II.

Expensive, yes, but talented and young and we know the family.Also much better to have one good player than RLC, Cav, Josh Onamah, Cyrus Christie and a whole gaggle of others.Would show ambition.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 10:01:44 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.

If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.

Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.

He's just not a very good manager anymore.

His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gamble




Look at the stats Simply and tell me you wouldn't love them at FFC. He has taken 151 points out of a possible 258.  Who's clueless????

He has two of the worlds best footballers at his disposal.

Whichever way you want to slice it, it's a poor return.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 19, 2021, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 10:01:44 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.

If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.

Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.

He's just not a very good manager anymore.

His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gamble




Look at the stats Simply and tell me you wouldn't love them at FFC. He has taken 151 points out of a possible 258.  Who's clueless????

He has two of the worlds best footballers at his disposal.

Whichever way you want to slice it, it's a poor return.

If you say so, but I don't agree with you in the slightest.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Twig on April 19, 2021, 10:46:43 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 10:01:44 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 19, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Blingo you can't serious or else you truly are clueless when it comes to football.

If the only argument against Mourinho was just because he's boring, then maybe you would have a point. But it's more than that.

Tactically he isn't boring, he's just backwards. He hasn't adapted in the last 10 years and his style has become forcibly negative. He alienates players and divides dressing rooms - the same thing happened at Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs.

He's just not a very good manager anymore.

His win rate is on a downward trajectory. These aren't anomalies, it's a pattern that will more than likely continue. But you want to be the next sucker to take that gamble




Look at the stats Simply and tell me you wouldn't love them at FFC. He has taken 151 points out of a possible 258.  Who's clueless????

He has two of the worlds best footballers at his disposal.

Whichever way you want to slice it, it's a poor return.

Agree, he's going downhill. Also, as far as I am aware he's never got a team promoted? And finally I don't like the way he inevitably falls out with players, criticising them publicly and leaving his successor to scoop up the poop.

Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 20, 2021, 01:28:11 AM
If you live by the sword
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: St Eve on April 20, 2021, 01:40:25 AM
It's never going to happen but I wouldn't mind him at Fulham. He must have had a torrid time working for Levy. Now there's a piece of work
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: ex-Pat on April 20, 2021, 05:21:28 AM
Time to go Big,,,,get him at right now, he lives around the corner..
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Willham on April 20, 2021, 07:38:31 AM
I honestly couldn't see why, someone said hed attract bigger names, I'm not so sure anymore, most players are a little wary of playing for mourinho now, as he's known for always arguing with his team.

His recent track records are really short, someone posted his stats for Tottenham, awful, awful stats and I feel sorry for the next manager of tottenham because they'll have to pick up his short fall.

Mourinho stinks of failure these days and I fear it would really dampen our championship chances. The overconfident mourinho would have in the championship would be unpresicedented and I can not even fathom an idea of success with him, I'd rather ian dowie
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: ScalleysDad on April 20, 2021, 09:58:55 AM
Ian Dowie. What a top bloke and one of the better speakers at FA seminars even if some of the words were made up.
To some extent we have to move away from the tags of 'quaint little old Fulham' and 'it's my favourite away day' but equally do we need to jump on the managerial merry go round where the P.R machine around the person is bigger than the Clubs. We tried this tactic with Ranieri. A little while ago in what looked like it might be an interesting thread, before hostilities broke out, there was the makings of a discussion on our identity and what we wanted to be our ethos to be and what the badge meant and the requirements needed to wear it. I hope it's still work in progress but I hope even more that we do not jump on the merry go round of massive salaries, egos, payoffs and media fodder.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Cornishnick on April 20, 2021, 05:47:06 PM
Think he is past his sell by date. We have a good academy and he'll totally ignore it. He only knows one way to make a team and that's with the chairmans wallet! He's rapidly becoming "old school" and doesn't seem to be able to bring on good youngsters - which we are producing and a decent rate.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: General on April 20, 2021, 05:55:31 PM
I would - I think he's disillusioned with football and big clubs and needs an opportunity to get back to the grass roots of the game and find his love of the game too. I believe he's always held Fulham in high regard, from saying as much when Cookie was our manager, to having his son play for our youth setup. I think it'd be a good match. Less pressure admittedly, but let's not fool ourselves, he's still a better manager than we can currently attract.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: ron on April 20, 2021, 07:55:31 PM
"Necessity makes strange bedfellows".

That's about all I'd say on the subject.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: grandad on April 20, 2021, 08:02:08 PM
NO, No, No, a thousand times NO. Every job he has ever had ends in tears. He is toxic & would destroy our club. He would never cope with working with our FFP restrictions.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.

It literally says nothing.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 20, 2021, 08:09:16 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.

It literally says nothing.

That has to be one of the most stupid things ever posted on here
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Asotosyios on April 20, 2021, 11:22:21 PM
I doubt Mourinho would ever consider coming here, but it's funny reading comments some comments here.

Mourinho has lost his mojo, even if his worse record is winning 51% of his Spurs games, so we don't want him here and prefer Parker with 5/33 wins. Or that he can only build a team with the owner's wallet, while we complain that TK got only 9 new players for Parker and not more.

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Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: St Eve on April 21, 2021, 03:08:18 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.

It literally says nothing.

It literally says nothing.
Mmmm. Isn't that 22 more trophies than we have won in 130 years?
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 21, 2021, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: St Eve on April 21, 2021, 03:08:18 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 20, 2021, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 20, 2021, 06:27:19 PM
22 trophies in his career, averaging one every 34 matches. Says it all. He is still a top drawer manager.
The third most successful manager of all time.

It literally says nothing.

It literally says nothing.
Mmmm. Isn't that 22 more trophies than we have won in 130 years?

We won the intertoto cup
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Chrismmo on April 21, 2021, 10:36:32 AM
He would bring in great players on his reputation alone and would guarantee a return to the prem (if needed).


It will never happen though.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: WindyCity on April 21, 2021, 04:00:56 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on April 19, 2021, 05:06:47 PM
He is so dam egotistical. NNNnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

This mostly for me why I don't want this egotistical asshat managing my club.  Yes he has had much success in his managing career, but I do think things have dropped off for him in recent years, with some rather quick sackings.  And yes, he has become a sort of caricature.  Not sure what of, but seems more a cartoon than anything else.  And that massive ego rubs me the wrong way.  NO TY!!
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'. 
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'. 

Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:38:39 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on April 21, 2021, 04:00:56 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on April 19, 2021, 05:06:47 PM
He is so dam egotistical. NNNnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

This mostly for me why I don't want this egotistical asshat managing my club.  Yes he has had much success in his managing career, but I do think things have dropped off for him in recent years, with some rather quick sackings.  And yes, he has become a sort of caricature.  Not sure what of, but seems more a cartoon than anything else.  And that massive ego rubs me the wrong way.  NO TY!!

Maybe we need some of that "EGO" to make us into the club we'd like to be. If you are happy being a "YOYO" club fair enough, but I personally would love us to bring home trophy's and win the league. I guess it all boils down to whether or not you want Fulham to develop, or remain the same as we have for years. Funny how no one moaned about success when we got to the final of the Europa Cup eh?
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Bassey the warrior on April 21, 2021, 05:59:49 PM
Not way. The Donald Trump of football.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 21, 2021, 06:13:12 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on April 21, 2021, 05:59:49 PM
Not way. The Donald Trump of football.

So you prefer the Parker ball style of football?
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: WindyCity on April 22, 2021, 03:52:19 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:38:39 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on April 21, 2021, 04:00:56 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on April 19, 2021, 05:06:47 PM
He is so dam egotistical. NNNnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

This mostly for me why I don't want this egotistical asshat managing my club.  Yes he has had much success in his managing career, but I do think things have dropped off for him in recent years, with some rather quick sackings.  And yes, he has become a sort of caricature.  Not sure what of, but seems more a cartoon than anything else.  And that massive ego rubs me the wrong way.  NO TY!!

Maybe we need some of that "EGO" to make us into the club we'd like to be. If you are happy being a "YOYO" club fair enough, but I personally would love us to bring home trophy's and win the league. I guess it all boils down to whether or not you want Fulham to develop, or remain the same as we have for years. Funny how no one moaned about success when we got to the final of the Europa Cup eh?

Who said anything about being happy being a yo-yo club?  I sure didn't.  I'm not happy.  "I'm not satisfied!" (Fawlty reference)  Of course we all want to see FFC develop and become a regular side in the Prem.  Who says it can only happen with the likes of Jose Assclown Mourinho?   I'm sure there are plenty of managers that can take FFC where we all want to see them go, including, possibly, even SP.  I don't see Mourinho as the end all or necessarily FFC's salvation.  I'll pass......
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Willham on April 22, 2021, 04:03:00 PM
Could you imagine his press conference if we had just lost to a Luton?
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: perry geyton on April 22, 2021, 04:20:09 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 12:24:48 PM
I wouldn't think twice.
Really outdid yourself with this post Bongo
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'. 

Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time

What are you on?
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: The Rock on April 22, 2021, 04:35:01 PM
I don't think he can manage a non-top club.

He has no experience managing an average side, let alone one in a relegation battle.

I'd think he'd be too afraid to take on something like that as well.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Willham on April 22, 2021, 05:36:44 PM
I honestly dont think he coaches teams well anymore, I actually loved him in his first stint at chelsea, even though its chelsea.

I remember him running along the touchline and sliding on his knees, he smiled, actually smiled and seemed gracious in the rare defeat.

But I dont recognise this mourinho, as soon as he arrived back at chelsea he seemed a different man and it seems to reflect in his teams.

I wouldnt be too suprised if kane left tottenham this summer and if that happens then he, Mourinho has single handed put Tottenham so far behind, chelsea were in a dire position when he left, along with a transfer embargo their still rebuilding from Mourinho's mess, you could even argue the transfer embargo came from having too much faith in Mourinho and then also spending big trying to sweep up.

He is leaving clubs in a worst state then he begins, that's not what we want, we want a manager who can build up a team. Mourinho would be a mess!
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: SG on April 22, 2021, 09:17:19 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 19, 2021, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 19, 2021, 12:24:48 PM
I wouldn't think twice.

Neither would I.

NO.

👍👍
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 22, 2021, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'. 

Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time

What are you on?





Look up the facts before making silly comments and embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 22, 2021, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'. 

Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time

What are you on?





Look up the facts before making silly comments and embarrassing yourself.

1. Sir Alex Ferguson (48 Titles)
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2. Mircea Lucescu (32 Titles)
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3. Valeriy Lobanovskyi (29 Titles)
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4. Pep Guardiola (27 Titles)
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5. Jock Stein (26 Titles)



... and that's before we even talk about successful managers who don't have the trophy haul to match their influence on the game like Paisley, Cruyff, Michels or Wenger.


But hey, don't let facts get in the way of dodgy opinion there Blingo  :54:
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 23, 2021, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 22, 2021, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'. 

Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time

What are you on?





Look up the facts before making silly comments and embarrassing yourself.

1. Sir Alex Ferguson (48 Titles)
-
2. Mircea Lucescu (32 Titles)
-
3. Valeriy Lobanovskyi (29 Titles)
-
4. Pep Guardiola (27 Titles)
-
5. Jock Stein (26 Titles)



... and that's before we even talk about successful managers who don't have the trophy haul to match their influence on the game like Paisley, Cruyff, Michels or Wenger.


But hey, don't let facts get in the way of dodgy opinion there Blingo  :54:


No lets not

https://howtheyplay.com/team-sports/Top-10-Best-Football-Managers-In-The-World
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Buffalo76 on April 23, 2021, 05:04:40 PM
Quote from: Chrismmo on April 21, 2021, 10:36:32 AM
He would bring in great players on his reputation alone and would guarantee a return to the prem (if needed).


It will never happen though.





:plus one:
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 23, 2021, 05:12:40 PM
Whichever stats you go by, JM is one of the worlds best managers and I for one would love to see him at Fulham.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: YankeeJim on April 23, 2021, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 22, 2021, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'. 

Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time

What are you on?





Look up the facts before making silly comments and embarrassing yourself.

1. Sir Alex Ferguson (48 Titles)
-
2. Mircea Lucescu (32 Titles)
-
3. Valeriy Lobanovskyi (29 Titles)
-
4. Pep Guardiola (27 Titles)
-
5. Jock Stein (26 Titles)



... and that's before we even talk about successful managers who don't have the trophy haul to match their influence on the game like Paisley, Cruyff, Michels or Wenger.


But hey, don't let facts get in the way of dodgy opinion there Blingo  :54:


No lets not

https://howtheyplay.com/team-sports/Top-10-Best-Football-Managers-In-The-World

Your list is for active managers. The man has been successful and I'm sure that explains your hero worship but you can't deny that he hasn't lasted for long anywhere since Porto and he always leaves the team in turmoil. If you need someone for one year of success than he is an option but if your a low budget team like Fulham, he'd be a disaster.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 06:28:44 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 22, 2021, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 22, 2021, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 21, 2021, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: rebel on April 21, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
As I said previously, he was going anyway, he has 'under performed', the Super League gave the club and him the perfect opportunity to part ways 'soon rather then later'. 

Come on Mr Rebel be realistic. He is the 3rd most successful manager of all time

What are you on?





Look up the facts before making silly comments and embarrassing yourself.

1. Sir Alex Ferguson (48 Titles)
-
2. Mircea Lucescu (32 Titles)
-
3. Valeriy Lobanovskyi (29 Titles)
-
4. Pep Guardiola (27 Titles)
-
5. Jock Stein (26 Titles)



... and that's before we even talk about successful managers who don't have the trophy haul to match their influence on the game like Paisley, Cruyff, Michels or Wenger.


But hey, don't let facts get in the way of dodgy opinion there Blingo  :54:


No lets not

https://howtheyplay.com/team-sports/Top-10-Best-Football-Managers-In-The-World

But... that's an opinion piece? You are aware of that right?

Mourinho has been a manager for about 20 years. In the last 10 years, he's only picked up 4 trophies (if you exclude the charity shield and other equivalents).

He did his best work between about 2002-2011. He's pretty much a busted flush now. He'll go down as one of the biggest influences on the premier league but don't pretend that the current incarnation of Mourinho has got much left to offer.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 23, 2021, 06:44:02 PM
He has loads left to offer. You don't become a bad manager overnight.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Buffalo76 on April 23, 2021, 06:55:57 PM
He still commands a huge salary so no chance he'd manage us anyway - a pity as he'd certainly raise our profile as well as our league position.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 06:44:02 PM
He has loads left to offer. You don't become a bad manager overnight.

No you don't, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that. But in his case he has slowly become a less effective manager over a 10 year decline.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: clarkey on April 23, 2021, 08:56:42 PM
Take him by the neck maybe.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: perry geyton on April 23, 2021, 10:44:19 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 05:12:40 PM
Whichever stats you go by, JM is one of the worlds best managers and I for one would love to see him at Fulham.
We'd def get worse under him
Take the day off Bongo
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 24, 2021, 12:01:24 AM
I feel JM is a busted flush and like a lot of managers of the so called top clubs can only succeed with an open cheque book. I cannot see him coming here even if Fulham begged him, plus I would not particularly want him.
He is far too defensive minded and falls out with people wherever he goes.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 24, 2021, 09:41:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 24, 2021, 12:01:24 AM
I feel JM is a busted flush and like a lot of managers of the so called top clubs can only succeed with an open cheque book. I cannot see him coming here even if Fulham begged him, plus I would not particularly want him.
He is far too defensive minded and falls out with people wherever he goes.

I don't think he's a busted flush at all Woolly, he's still a very very good manager. However, I don't think he would ever come to us either. Would I like to see him at FFC 100% yes, I'd settle for a 50% win rate in the premiership.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 24, 2021, 09:43:07 AM
Quote from: perry geyton on April 23, 2021, 10:44:19 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 05:12:40 PM
Whichever stats you go by, JM is one of the worlds best managers and I for one would love to see him at Fulham.
We'd def get worse under him
Take the day off Bongo

How could we get worse than under parker? Have you considered a psychiatrist?
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 24, 2021, 09:47:46 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 06:44:02 PM
He has loads left to offer. You don't become a bad manager overnight.

No you don't, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that. But in his case he has slowly become a less effective manager over a 10 year decline.


Whichever ratings you look at, they are all in the eyes of the person writing them in their way, but this is about Mourinho and however you look at it, the man is a TOP rated football manager. Do we all have periods in life where things don't quite work out? Of course we do, but to think/say/believe that he isn't a MASSIVE improvement on our current manager is to argue for the sake of arguing. Love him or loathe him he is still a class act. A 25% Mourinho would be much better than 100% parker.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Willham on April 24, 2021, 10:15:12 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 09:47:46 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 06:44:02 PM
He has loads left to offer. You don't become a bad manager overnight.

No you don't, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that. But in his case he has slowly become a less effective manager over a 10 year decline.


Whichever ratings you look at, they are all in the eyes of the person writing them in their way, but this is about Mourinho and however you look at it, the man is a TOP rated football manager. Do we all have periods in life where things don't quite work out? Of course we do, but to think/say/believe that he isn't a MASSIVE improvement on our current manager is to argue for the sake of arguing. Love him or loathe him he is still a class act. A 25% Mourinho would be much better than 100% parker.

I disagree, one thing parker has done very well is getting our team playing for one another, which is what's needed to fight for survival, in mouringos last 3 teams hes demolished the work for each other thesis.
I dont think Mourinho would do a better job than parker, I fully believe he would struggle with our team.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Twig on April 24, 2021, 11:26:22 AM
Quote from: Willham on April 24, 2021, 10:15:12 AM
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 09:47:46 AM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 23, 2021, 08:47:26 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 23, 2021, 06:44:02 PM
He has loads left to offer. You don't become a bad manager overnight.

No you don't, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that. But in his case he has slowly become a less effective manager over a 10 year decline.


Whichever ratings you look at, they are all in the eyes of the person writing them in their way, but this is about Mourinho and however you look at it, the man is a TOP rated football manager. Do we all have periods in life where things don't quite work out? Of course we do, but to think/say/believe that he isn't a MASSIVE improvement on our current manager is to argue for the sake of arguing. Love him or loathe him he is still a class act. A 25% Mourinho would be much better than 100% parker.

I disagree, one thing parker has done very well is getting our team playing for one another, which is what's needed to fight for survival, in mouringos last 3 teams hes demolished the work for each other thesis.
I dont think Mourinho would do a better job than parker, I fully believe he would struggle with our team.

I completely agree. JM has no track record of working at our level but does have track record of publicly criticising his own players and breaking up team morale.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 24, 2021, 11:43:25 AM
Parker has done nothing more than put us in a situation where we are going to be relegated. A good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on April 24, 2021, 12:24:10 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 09:41:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 24, 2021, 12:01:24 AM
I feel JM is a busted flush and like a lot of managers of the so called top clubs can only succeed with an open cheque book. I cannot see him coming here even if Fulham begged him, plus I would not particularly want him.
He is far too defensive minded and falls out with people wherever he goes.

I don't think he's a busted flush at all Woolly, he's still a very very good manager. However, I don't think he would ever come to us either. Would I like to see him at FFC 100% yes, I'd settle for a 50% win rate in the premiership.

He now relies on a cheque book to use as a crutch because he has busted his flush. But his stock is going down fast because he no longer can get the best out of players at any one time, and his bullshite is old hat.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: alfie on April 24, 2021, 02:42:14 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 11:43:25 AM
Parker has done nothing more than put us in a situation where we are going to be relegated. A good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have.
Then again Mr B, that is just an assumption, there is no way you can say for certain that another manager would have kept us up, but of course you are entitled to make that assumption.
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 24, 2021, 03:31:15 PM
As you are fully entitled to your opinion Alfie
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Willham on April 24, 2021, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 11:43:25 AM
Parker has done nothing more than put us in a situation where we are going to be relegated. A good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have.

Really? We have a chance of survival at this late stage of the season and while going through a pandemic, all in all I think parkers had a decent stab at a difficult situation. I really dont think hes a bad manager, not great but he has the makings of a great manager in him.
He hasn't got the team to survive. I said it when we won the play offs, hes esstientially won a battle to his own demise, the team was never going to stay up and whether he gets sacked now or after a poor start next campaign ultimately the play off final was where the end of parker began
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: Twig on April 24, 2021, 04:38:36 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 11:43:25 AM
Parker has done nothing more than put us in a situation where we are going to be relegated. A good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have.

Well actually he got us promoted so your statement is factually incorrect.  As to whether "a good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have". I think that's debatable. I agree that Scottt has made mistakes and I'm no fan of his rather negative mmindset and granted we have a few very decent players. However we also have areas of obvious wakness, our squad is hopelessley unbalanceda nd we have a history of investing in injury prone players (thanks TK).
Title: Re: Would you take Mourinho?
Post by: blingo on April 24, 2021, 05:09:48 PM
Quote from: Twig on April 24, 2021, 04:38:36 PM
Quote from: blingo on April 24, 2021, 11:43:25 AM
Parker has done nothing more than put us in a situation where we are going to be relegated. A good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have.

Well actually he got us promoted so your statement is factually incorrect.  As to whether "a good manager would have kept us up with the squad we currently have". I think that's debatable. I agree that Scottt has made mistakes and I'm no fan of his rather negative mmindset and granted we have a few very decent players. However we also have areas of obvious wakness, our squad is hopelessley unbalanceda nd we have a history of investing in injury prone players (thanks TK).

Mr Twig, we were very very lucky to have gained promotion under Parker. We finished fourth, went up in extra time to a team that were better than we were. We had some diabolical performances through that season, with what was the best team in the championship on paper. At no time has Parker played to our strengths this season and he has been woefully short tactically in the majority of the games we have played. If that were not the case we would not be staring relegation in the face.
A half decent manager would have plugged the tactical gaps and I am pretty sure found the best in our midfield and attacking strengths, in my personal view, that would have kept us up. The Arsenal game was the perfect example of tactical failure. Take off our forwards, and sit back and wait for Arsenal to attack. No defence can hold out on that amount of pressure, no matter how good that defence is. A good manager finds the best way to balance his squad instead of using the same "it's a game of small margins" excuse week in and week out. Does he not learn???

It's a sad time for all of us Fulham supporters new and old and yes i'll always support the team and never change my colours, but i'm sorry 5 games won all season says to me that we have the wrong manager. The DOF should never have even got the job, full stop.