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Very tough game today. An early goal for us would really help
Come on Fulham, is this the first prem game in the green shirts?
Green jersey.
Great challenge by Diop
I wonder if the WHU fans still feel £15m for Diop was a great deal for them?
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on January 15, 2023, 02:07:05 PM
Great challenge by Diop
It was his mistake with a shanked pass that gave Newc a throw high up the pitch, and then his fine tackle that prevented a goal. The two sides to him
Sitting in Austrian alps... Can you hear me cheering us on? COYWs
Quote from: bencher on January 15, 2023, 02:08:57 PM
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on January 15, 2023, 02:07:05 PM
Great challenge by Diop
It was his mistake with a shanked pass that gave Newc a throw high up the pitch, and then his fine tackle that prevented a goal. The two sides to him
Thought that shanked pass was kurzawa as it came from the left side
Diopanldo
Great tackle by Kurzawa
game more open now
KurzaWOW
keep pressing boys
Bruno's turned his ankle there, could help us out
We are the better side so far
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on January 15, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
Bruno's turned his ankle there, could help us out
Thanks to Joao's slippery boot
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on January 15, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
Bruno's turned his ankle there, could help us out
At first i thought he was trying to get a call for stepping on palhinha
We are keeping a great shape and balance and are punching forward when necessary giving them something to think about every time we have possession.
Joaos played some sloppy passes this first half, very unlike him.
22 minutes in & no dive from Wilson yet, must be a record.
newc on top now, at least possession wise
We're doing ok. Newcastle are a well coached team
If we are playing out from the back I feel we need to play out quicker, Newcastle are too well organised
We look very lethargic.
Yes I do think we look a bit less lively than usual.
Quote from: cookieg on January 15, 2023, 02:33:57 PM
We look very lethargic.
there is two days recouperation difference between the teams. it might show a lot more in the second half. hope were still in the game or heads could drop and we could see a few goals in the wrong end
dropping like flies
I think we are just having to work very hard to keep them at bay
They're taking it to us. Hopefully we can hold strong.
need to flip-flop Bobbi & Willian back to normal
BDR looks knackered
I like Willian more and more each game
Bobby playing very deep
poor cross after moments of skill from willian
This feels like a game for Dan James
Really missing Robinson today.
LeNoWAY
Newcastle are impressing us really well
Tete and Willian working really well on the right (solid, sharp and enterprising) - Kurzawa and Reid on the left less so....
We're under the cosh here.
nice dive 7.2
No contact whatsoever there
We need half time asap
That was such a clear dive
im 2 mins behind but that was a waste of a free kick from pereira. we're seeing less and less of the ball so the last thing we want to be doing is surrendering possession cheaply.
Defo a dive
That was never a free kick
Reed nearly in there
Palhinha radar a bit off at the moment.
Quote from: Twig on January 15, 2023, 02:47:12 PM
Palhinha radar a bit off at the moment.
Love him but don't think he completed a pass that is over 5 yards
A real contrast to Thursday's game, I hope we don't run out of steam.
LeNoWay (I like that, so I stole it... ;P)
A strange decision from the ref there.
This ref is losing the plot.
Need to make it to half time
Ref is the usual crap
Ah the old eyes are only working for Newcastle fouls situations from the Ref as per usual
I love watching Marco on the sideline
Bruno toast? Lots of tears.
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on January 15, 2023, 02:50:49 PM
Ah the old eyes are only working for Newcastle fouls situations from the Ref as per usual
Very worrying when even the Sky pundits think it's a foul.
That foul on Reed not given was just ridiculous. That would've given a free kick in a good area.
We're doing ok,we had a hard game late Thursday,Newcastle
have had a good break.
I'm never surprised these days when the ref gives something against us that clearly was not supposed to.
That camera angle on wilson's shirt pulling diop and diop responding with hands over wilson's chest leaves a bad taste. Somethings i hate about this sport...
Extremely weak refereeing, he's letting the fans get to him perhaps.
Why are PL refs so crap?
Quote from: MisfitKid on January 15, 2023, 02:51:27 PM
Bruno toast? Lots of tears.
You would think it is a bad injury the way he was welling up. But that being the case, why did he stay on pitch until half time...!?
Leno gives us so much calm on defence. Such a bargain.
We're doing good defensively but, similar to against Chelsea we're struggling to create clear cut chances on the offensive sides.
Wish MS would try Solomon instead of BDR on right wing.
A few leggy players out there but Reed has been everywhere again so far
Surely a booking if Trippier moved the foam forward at the free kick?
Quote from: TheCeiling on January 15, 2023, 02:55:36 PM
Leno gives us so much calm on defence. Such a bargain.
We're doing good defensively but, similar to against Chelsea we're struggling to create clear cut chances on the offensive sides.
Wish MS would try Solomon instead of BDR on right wing.
I think his plan all along is to play Willian on the right from the start and sub BDR with Solomon at half time or 60-70 mins on the left
Quote from: Lordedmundo on January 15, 2023, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: MisfitKid on January 15, 2023, 02:51:27 PM
Bruno toast? Lots of tears.
You would think it is a bad injury the way he was welling up. But that being the case, why did he stay on pitch until half time...!?
Those ankle rolls tend to be ok immediately but swell up after a while. I cant see him coming back out
Quote from: TheCeiling on January 15, 2023, 02:55:36 PM
Leno gives us so much calm on defence. Such a bargain.
We're doing good defensively but, similar to against Chelsea we're struggling to create clear cut chances on the offensive sides.
Wish MS would try Solomon instead of BDR on right wing.
Maybe because he been out for so long,he is being eased in bit by bit.
Quote from: Lordedmundo on January 15, 2023, 02:43:37 PM
Tete and Willian working really well on the right (solid, sharp and enterprising) - Kurzawa and Reid on the left less so....
This. Think I would have rested BDR this game but in Marco we trust.
Quote from: Karlos on January 15, 2023, 02:55:50 PM
A few leggy players out there but Reed has been everywhere again so far
Its them Duracell batteries.😀
Pretty happy with that first half performance. Newcastle are so dangerous, and we contained them pretty well. Good defending. Not so good attacking from us, but some half chances.
Quote from: Karlos on January 15, 2023, 02:55:50 PM
A few leggy players out there but Reed has been everywhere again so far
Yes he's looked up for it and has helped Palhina out a couple of times.
Mitro looks a bit tired by his normal standards for someone that's had a rest.
Think Leno, Reed and Tete had good first halfs. Joao needs to sort out his passing
Quote from: TheCeiling on January 15, 2023, 02:55:36 PM
Leno gives us so much calm on defence. Such a bargain.
We're doing good defensively but, similar to against Chelsea we're struggling to create clear cut chances on the offensive sides.
Wish MS would try Solomon instead of BDR on right wing.
Maybe he can handle 45?
BDR is there to help Kurzawa
Would be surprised to see Bruno after half time. His ankle looks toast.
Quote from: St Eve on January 15, 2023, 03:00:58 PM
BDR is there to help Kurzawa
I guess that's right. Other wing options certainly don't give him as much cover.
That's not a bad substitution to be able to make, St Maximin is a quality player if fit.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 15, 2023, 02:59:27 PM
Quote from: Karlos on January 15, 2023, 02:55:50 PM
A few leggy players out there but Reed has been everywhere again so far
Its them Duracell batteries.😀
he has been immense this first half, our best player. Tete good and Diop good apart from the Wilson turn just before halftime.
Saint Maximan on
This ref is going to do us in the end
that's a yellow?
No way we end the game with 11 men given this ref and the track record at SJP
Burn just did to Mitro what Diop did to Wilson and of course no foul
Kurzawa is being caught out time and time again.
Ref cr4p and missing Jedi. What could possibly go wrong!
Reed a one man assault weapon today.
Kurzawa is being targeted by Newcastle - not unexpected mind you - and will be even harder with an early yellow card.
Reed however terrific
However only Newcastle creating actual chances!
Goodie fans in uproar as the ref actually gives a decision against them!
Wilson is such a cheat
I hope they don't drug test Reed after the game, no way his urine isn't nuclear green given the amount of energy he seems to have
Hoping Reed can keep running...
He's not got everything right, but I genuinely think this ref has had a decent game on balance.
He's at least 5x better than the shambolic display by David Coote on Thursday night.
Brilliant cover by Reed.
Somehow we have to give Mitro a bit of service. He's been given absolutely nothing to work with.
This is the type of game where I would love a speedster up top for a quick counter attack.
Quote from: simplyfulham on January 15, 2023, 03:16:22 PM
He's not got everything right, but I genuinely think this ref has had a decent game on balance.
He's at least 5x better than the shambolic display by David Coote on Thursday night.
I think Coote had a much harder challenge on Thursday as the midfield was congested & due to the speed of play.
I would put Dan James on asap and have him run at Burn
We seem allergic to going forward
Far too much back passing
How did we escape that?
Quote from: Pluto on January 15, 2023, 03:19:38 PM
I would put Dan James on asap and have him run at Burn
Exactly!
thank you post
God we got lucky there
Time for substitutions we need some ball retention.
Quote from: SP on January 15, 2023, 03:19:37 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on January 15, 2023, 03:16:22 PM
He's not got everything right, but I genuinely think this ref has had a decent game on balance.
He's at least 5x better than the shambolic display by David Coote on Thursday night.
I think Coote had a much harder challenge on Thursday as the midfield was congested & due to the speed of play.
Don't think that excuse/reason is anywhere near good enough to justify the baffling inconsistencies in his decisions quite frankly.
We are going to concede if Marco doesn't change something.
Got to make some subs
hanging on
just
Nice punch by Leno
that was a pull
Pressure is building
How was that not a pen?
Can VAR give 2 penalties?
Seen the replay and that was a pen for sure.
How was that not a penalty?
Diop has been amazing today
If that had been at the other end.........
come on
Do we need to have a drive by shooting toget a pen?
VAR so slow
Quote from: ron on January 15, 2023, 03:26:13 PM
Do we need to have a drive by shooting toget a pen?
Lol
Bite your hand off for a 0-0 right now quite frankly
Mitro time to step up.
He really didn't want to give that.
no way?
At the monitor. Will he give it?
He tried so hard not to give that
Yes he does!
I thought the first one was more of a foul?
How he didn't blow for that I have no idea. Terrible ref
Quote from: SP on January 15, 2023, 03:28:12 PM
I thought the first one was more of a foul?
So did I!
Palhinhia's fight to keep the ball alive prior to the pen, such passion!
get someone else to take it
Sorry but it's time to take Mitro off pens.
you're kidding
OMG
I'm fuming with the guy he just looks cumbersome when he takes pens.
Why is Mitro on penalties...
He should never take a pen again
Mitro not again.
Finding new ways not to score from the spot!
Surely hes off pens now ffs
Well..
What now?
Mitro slipped. That could happen to anyone.
I have never seen that
For the love of God. Unbelievable!
Need to add a bonus into Mitro's contract for every penalty he doesn't take
He should be off pens, Andreas takes a great pen. Saw Wilson messing with the pen spot
i thought you'd retake it?
Why would it not retaken?
It's time to stop letting Mitro takes the penalties. I didn't like it that he took it in the first place :/
What a shambles!
The kicker can't touch it twice.
Can someone explain? Have it on video and can't see him kick it twice
I honestly can't believe it
Quote from: cookieg on January 15, 2023, 03:31:24 PM
Mitro slipped. That could happen to anyone.
It could but he doesn't look comfortable taking pens. He looks ill balanced.
My TV is muted... What was the call?
Mitro - Amazing player, but he needs to stay away from penalties. I have been saying this literally for years. Pereira and Willian are substantially better at them.
Pope was diving the right way so the double-hit probably saved Mitro there anyway
James & TC, good call.
Quote from: Pluto on January 15, 2023, 03:32:16 PM
Can someone explain? Have it on video and can't see him kick it twice
his left foot slipped and he scuffed the shot with his right slightly off his left (while falling down). Definitely crossed up the keeper.
soooo angry. This ref should put on a striped shirt soooo biased.
It's costing us points. Time for silva to take charge and take him off penalties
We might as well forget trying to win this, the ref's always one step ahead.
His plant foot slipped and it touched the ball after he shot it with his right foot
If I'm going to be a tiny bit critical of Marco I'd say his substitutions cone too late.
Quote from: jarv on January 15, 2023, 03:33:29 PM
soooo angry. This ref should put on a striped shirt soooo biased.
How is the ref at fault?
Odds on after that fiasco,they'll fluke or var a winner.
Quote from: FulhamKC on January 15, 2023, 03:34:20 PM
His plant foot slipped and it touched the ball after he shot it with his right foot
thanks
That is the 11th penalty miss of Aleksandar Mitrovic's career.
He cannot be on pens going forward
Quote from: MisfitKid on January 15, 2023, 03:32:50 PM
My TV is muted... What was the call?
What stream? Keep losing them after 5 mins of watching
Quote from: roberto w6 on January 15, 2023, 03:35:58 PM
Quote from: MisfitKid on January 15, 2023, 03:32:50 PM
My TV is muted... What was the call?
What stream? Keep losing them after 5 mins of watching
I am on Peacock here in the States.
How was that foul given against Mitro?
Quote from: Twig on January 15, 2023, 03:39:24 PM
How was that foul given against Mitro?
Thats what i was thinking
Mitro is having a terrible game
Quote from: Twig on January 15, 2023, 03:39:24 PM
How was that foul given against Mitro?
Somehow he fouled a player that was behind him?
Not too sure about bringing on another CB.
Wilson diving
Mitro shocking today. The sky sports interview effect
Ah there's Wilson's first dive.
Dive - 8.3
I really don't like Wilson
Another CLEAR dive from Wilson
Wilson diving as per usual
If, after the penalty kick has been taken:
the kicker touches the ball again before it has touched another player:
an indirect free kick (or direct free kick for a handball offence) is awarded
From https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick (https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick)
Wilson is a diving cheat
Quote from: Twig on January 15, 2023, 03:40:21 PM
Not too sure about bringing on another CB.
Agree - feels like we are surrending any initiative and inviting Newcastle on to us. It's a Scott Parker type of substitution.
Quote from: DadCreature on January 15, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
Quote from: Pluto on January 15, 2023, 03:32:16 PM
Can someone explain? Have it on video and can't see him kick it twice
his left foot slipped and he scuffed the shot with his right slightly off his left (while falling down). Definitely crossed up the keeper.
Thanks. Difficult to see from the angle from the stand.
Something I don't understand. The penalty was awarded three or so minutes after play had continued. Surely those minutes are void and the time should re-start after the penalty?
I am sorry, the PL should have some of the best ref's in the world. This is a joke.
Reed looks knackered
Quote from: St Eve on January 15, 2023, 03:44:14 PM
Reed looks knackered
He deserves to be. How much ground has the man covered!
Diop has had a good game
There was I thinking you stop the game for head injuries?
Dreadful referee
With Kurzawa down the ref allowed Newcastle to continue. As soon as they lost possession to us he stopped it. How does that work?
Looks like boa was calling someone from the warm-up line
EPL has a big ref problem, most of them seem useless
What a tackle by Palinha
Jammy b*stards.
of course
Come on fulham
Cert to happen,after Mitro miss.
Well that was coming all day long
Three centre backs and no one picks up their best striker
I just keep looking at my watch - will take 0-0 even though we missed a penalty
We arent good enough to constantly miss penalties in the prem...
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on January 15, 2023, 03:49:37 PM
Well that was coming all day long
Yes we don't deserve anything today
What was the point of 5 at the back?
Another late goal.
Rubbish !
Again we were playing the ref as wel las the other team.
5 mins
How many points have missed pens cost us?
They're all diving now.
It was coming for a while. Not sure what 5 at the back did except for confusing everyone at the end.
Quote from: Pluto on January 15, 2023, 03:50:10 PM
Three centre backs and no one picks up their best striker
Never mind blaming them.
It's our Striker who has lost us the game.
I am sure it will be 5 wasted minutes
bloody hell - I waited & waited until it was nearly over & then they score.
Still a good performance
reed comes off after a mom performance
This has been a very frustrating game to watch. Newcastle turning into our bogey team.
the referee cost us this game, one of the worst I have seen.
We never look good with 5 at the back.
To be honest we didn't create much all game, and that goal had been coming a long time.
Deserved result... however frustrating..
last 5 mins i bet the ball is actually in play for less than a minute
Ref will blow up at 5 and half minutes even though they have already wasted 2 minutes
should add 30 seconds per sub
Obviously Newcastle away is a very tough match, but I didn't like MS' substitutions at all. What Dan James can add in such game? Why the rush to bring on Tosin? No Solomon minutes at all? It just felt MS plays not to lose instead of trying to crack a win in one of those nights when we could actually win in Newcastle.
Never mind. We'll grow better from this.
Of the past 4.75 mins, about 30secs of playing time
Gutted.
Toon fans already blowing at 95 mins even though the ball has only been in play for about a min. Cretins.
Can't believe this lot are third in the table.
I think it was a mistake to bring Tosin on.
Mitro should never take another penalty for us again
Tosin absolutely doing nothing for their goal just watching them score
0-0 would have been a great result
1-0 smash and grab even better but to lose 1-0 after all that effort is sickening.
Shows how far we've come when we've gone up to Newcastle who one of the best teams at home this year and we're disappointed not to have won
Quote from: TheCeiling on January 15, 2023, 03:55:20 PM
Obviously Newcastle away is a very tough match, but I didn't like MS' substitutions at all. What Dan James can add in such game? Why the rush to bring on Tosin? No Solomon minutes at all? It just felt MS plays not to lose instead of trying to crack a win in one of those nights when we could actually win in Newcastle.
Never mind. We'll grow better from this.
Don't forget the exhaustion after the Chelsea game plus the 2 day turn round. Agree about Tosin - he lost his man.
Marco needs to have the nads to tell Mitro his PK time is done.
Tough loss, but strong performance. Hard to find fault in anyone's game against an in form team (though at 5 Ws, Fulham had the better form starting the game ).
Great start to the new year so far.
Stop the blame game. We held our own against a good team, owned by a country, 3rd in the league and at their place. No shame and no blame
Quote from: LittleErn on January 15, 2023, 03:58:37 PM
I think it was a mistake to bring Tosin on.
Wonder if marco will think - never again will i fight for the draw...
we played against 12 all game. I have never seen this ref before, hope to never see him again. I see Marco got a yellow for giving it to the ref. Well done Marco, I was steaming so cant imagine how he feels.
We didn't hurt them enough which meant that it was wave after wave of Newcastle attack. It would have been a superb point but on balance couldn't hugely argue against losing the game; it's just such a shame when you get so close to holding them off. Obviously had we scored the penalty it could have all been different.
Quote from: demeant0r on January 15, 2023, 03:59:16 PM
Mitro should never take another penalty for us again
...he looked as if he had the troubles of the world on his shoulders as he stepped up to it.
Quote from: St Eve on January 15, 2023, 04:02:23 PM
Stop the blame game. We held our own against a good team, owned by a country, 3rd in the league and at their place. No shame and no blame
Agreed. A great performance in the circumstances. Not blaming Tosin. He wasn't on long enough to settle. I don't think Silva had any choice but to make changes because of the exhaustion factor.
I'm happy that we can give any of the top teams a game on equal terms.
Quote from: LittleErn on January 15, 2023, 04:01:47 PM
Don't forget the exhaustion after the Chelsea game plus the 2 day turn round. Agree about Tosin - he lost his man.
Players were exhausted indeed and Marco made his first substitution only at the 75' mark if I recall correctly.
He also didn't made the ideal subs (IMO), more to get a draw rather than trying to win.
I don't think Dan James has the skills to create anything against as strong defence as Newcastle. Would much rather see Manor on if we're about to create something out of nowhere. The Tosin sub was.. yeah, not an ideal one to say the least.
Anyway our next step as a team, is to to start changing this mindset and play like a team that believe they can win away also against strong sides. Marco is not there yet, mental wise. Hopefully we'll get there. One game at a time.
Quote from: LittleErn on January 15, 2023, 04:07:39 PM
Quote from: St Eve on January 15, 2023, 04:02:23 PM
Stop the blame game. We held our own against a good team, owned by a country, 3rd in the league and at their place. No shame and no blame
Agreed. A great performance in the circumstances. Not blaming Tosin. He wasn't on long enough to settle. I don't think Silva had any choice but to make changes because of the exhaustion factor.
I'm happy that we can give any of the top teams a game on equal terms.
+1
Quote from: TheCeiling on January 15, 2023, 04:08:52 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on January 15, 2023, 04:01:47 PM
Don't forget the exhaustion after the Chelsea game plus the 2 day turn round. Agree about Tosin - he lost his man.
Players were exhausted indeed and Marco made his first substitution only at the 75' mark if I recall correctly.
He also didn't made the ideal subs (IMO), more to get a draw rather than trying to win.
I don't think Dan James has the skills to create anything against as strong defence as Newcastle. Would much rather see Manor on if we're about to create something out of nowhere. The Tosin sub was.. yeah, not an ideal one to say the least.
Anyway our next step as a team, is to to start changing this mindset and play like a team that believe they can win away also against strong sides. Marco is not there yet, mental wise. Hopefully we'll get there. One game at a time.
I think the subs should have been more positive (no need to go 5 at the back for starters). We are on 31 points, there shouldn't be a desperation to hang on for a point in games like this - apart from anything else it plays into the hands of the opposition.
i agree with the sentiments of most posters on here that maybe hanging on for a draw was with hindsight the wrong way to go about it. who knows fresh legs and a willingness to take the game to newcastle from the 60th minute might have took some of the at times relentless pressure off us.
part of me thought at 0-0 marco would be reluctant to change anything because it was working.
maybe a different more carefree attitude ie these are third, its almost a free hit, lets go for a win. we have enough points in the bag to not need to worry about every point as if its the end of the world.
but its hard for managers to break away from the hang on to what weve got instead of speculate to accumulate thinking.
no big shame in losing to a top 3 team, buit i thought they were there for the taking if we'd had more of a go.
but its hard to have a go when the players are in dug in mode.
Quote from: Lordedmundo on January 15, 2023, 04:23:51 PM
Quote from: TheCeiling on January 15, 2023, 04:08:52 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on January 15, 2023, 04:01:47 PM
Don't forget the exhaustion after the Chelsea game plus the 2 day turn round. Agree about Tosin - he lost his man.
Players were exhausted indeed and Marco made his first substitution only at the 75' mark if I recall correctly.
He also didn't made the ideal subs (IMO), more to get a draw rather than trying to win.
I don't think Dan James has the skills to create anything against as strong defence as Newcastle. Would much rather see Manor on if we're about to create something out of nowhere. The Tosin sub was.. yeah, not an ideal one to say the least.
Anyway our next step as a team, is to to start changing this mindset and play like a team that believe they can win away also against strong sides. Marco is not there yet, mental wise. Hopefully we'll get there. One game at a time.
I think the subs should have been more positive (no need to go 5 at the back for starters). We are on 31 points, there shouldn't be a desperation to hang on for a point in games like this - apart from anything else it plays into the hands of the opposition.
youve summed up in far less words than ive used the same thinking.
