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Parker IN or Parker OUT?

Started by Sgt Fulham, February 15, 2020, 07:22:55 PM

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Should we sack Scott Parker as our manager tonight?

Parker in
59 (44.4%)
Parker out
74 (55.6%)

Total Members Voted: 132

Statto

We've had a year to assess him and I'm just not impressed. Even in the highly unlikely event that we went up I'd still have no confidence in him for next season.

Get rid now (and give Gray a crack at the play-offs) or as soon the season's over. 

elgreenio

I'm struggling to remember any games that we've really played well, unless you happen to combine the two 1st halves of Milwall and Boro at home.

Beyond that Parker just doesn't come across with any vibrancy does he, he's a hard man to get behind.

It's such a shame as we've addressed some of the mistakes behind the scenes this time around (including purchase options in loans, removing the big money flops of last season, bringing back Stuart Gray)
touch my camera through the fence

KingofCheese

Quote from: MikeW on February 15, 2020, 08:45:50 PM
Hopefully in the Motspur Park complex tonight there is a single office light on with just two cars in the car park.  Only one car will leave, the other recipient will leave his keys and get a final taxi home.

So who have you got lined up? Pep?
Jullie Kaas is mijn Kaas


KingofCheese

Quote from: elgreenio on February 15, 2020, 10:17:46 PM
I'm struggling to remember any games that we've really played well, unless you happen to combine the two 1st halves of Milwall and Boro at home.

Beyond that Parker just doesn't come across with any vibrancy does he, he's a hard man to get behind.

It's such a shame as we've addressed some of the mistakes behind the scenes this time around (including purchase options in loans, removing the big money flops of last season, bringing back Stuart Gray)

Still in 3rd place and only 3 points behind Leeds..the way people talk it's as if we are in the relegation zone. As to the land of milk and honey, did any of us enjoy last year in the Prem?
Jullie Kaas is mijn Kaas

Sgt Fulham

Quote from: KingofCheese on February 15, 2020, 10:20:27 PM
Quote from: MikeW on February 15, 2020, 08:45:50 PM
Hopefully in the Motspur Park complex tonight there is a single office light on with just two cars in the car park.  Only one car will leave, the other recipient will leave his keys and get a final taxi home.

So who have you got lined up? Pep?

Anyone but Parker.

Ged

#25
Quote from: KingofCheese on February 15, 2020, 10:22:14 PM
[quote author=elgreenio link=topic=74653.msg1118290#msg1118290 date=1581805066

I'm struggling to remember any games that we've really played well, unless you happen to combine the two 1st halves of Milwall and Boro at home.

Beyond that Parker just doesn't come across with any vibrancy does he, he's a hard man to get behind.

It's such a shame as we've addressed some of the mistakes behind the scenes this time around (including purchase options in loans, removing the big money flops of last season, bringing back Stuart Gray)

Still in 3rd place and only 3 points behind Leeds..the way people talk it's as if we are in the relegation zone. As to the land of milk and honey, did any of us enjoy last year in the Prem?
[/quote]
So are you enjoying watching negative football every week?


elgreenio

Quote from: KingofCheese on February 15, 2020, 10:22:14 PM
Quote from: elgreenio on February 15, 2020, 10:17:46 PM
I'm struggling to remember any games that we've really played well, unless you happen to combine the two 1st halves of Milwall and Boro at home.

Beyond that Parker just doesn't come across with any vibrancy does he, he's a hard man to get behind.

It's such a shame as we've addressed some of the mistakes behind the scenes this time around (including purchase options in loans, removing the big money flops of last season, bringing back Stuart Gray)

Still in 3rd place and only 3 points behind Leeds..the way people talk it's as if we are in the relegation zone. As to the land of milk and honey, did any of us enjoy last year in the Prem?

it's a very weird feeling, looking at the table in disbelief, "how the hell are we still in this position".

Personally no I didnt enjoy it in the prem, but i'd much rather be there than the championship that's for sure. And right now it doesn't feel like we're going to get there looking at the way we've played the last two games especially adding in the state of our run-in. Fully expect us to go and win at Elland Road and the Hawthorns now :D
touch my camera through the fence

HobGoblin

I'm out on him. Never wanted him in first place, felt the decision to bring him in after a couple of results when we'd been relegated and there was no pressure on the players/manager at the time was a mistake.

The team is set up how he played, crab sideways football. The team are far to ponderous in transition from defense to attack

We may have the possession but most of the time the opposition have the chances/shots on target. That tells me that we have a mantra to be to cautious and pass pass pass without getting it forward quickly. It allows opposition teams to set up ready to pounce on a mistake that does tend to happen.

Luka

Parker's brand of football just doesn't entertain, it's turgid and predictable.
Win, loose or draw it always the same.


ByTheRiver

Quote from: KingofCheese on February 15, 2020, 10:20:27 PM
Quote from: MikeW on February 15, 2020, 08:45:50 PM
Hopefully in the Motspur Park complex tonight there is a single office light on with just two cars in the car park.  Only one car will leave, the other recipient will leave his keys and get a final taxi home.

So who have you got lined up? Pep?

Let's be brutally honest, even Tony Khan probably wouldn't perform much worse... Or Margot Robbie, Joaquin Phoenix, anyway who fancies a stab at it really. He is getting literally the minimum output from the current playing squad. We are where we are (as in not bottom of the table) because of the resources available to him. He is underperforming. Massively.

Who comes in depends on if, or how long, the owners have been considering other options. Failing that, I'd feel that Stuart Gray could step into the caretaker role and get more from the squad until the end of the season (during the play offs).

Woolly Mammoth

Hungry to prove themselves, with desire and appetite and ambition with the will to win. Something currently not in the clubs manual of regulations.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Tabby

Quote from: elgreenio on February 15, 2020, 10:17:46 PM
I'm struggling to remember any games that we've really played well, unless you happen to combine the two 1st halves of Milwall and Boro at home.

Beyond that Parker just doesn't come across with any vibrancy does he, he's a hard man to get behind.

It's such a shame as we've addressed some of the mistakes behind the scenes this time around (including purchase options in loans, removing the big money flops of last season, bringing back Stuart Gray)

Yeah, that has been my problem with him. There were signs of an idea early in the season, but it has ended up being just play it around and hope for some individual brilliance to get a goal and then battening the hatches for the final 20 minutes.

There are worse managers no doubt, but I don't get what Parker actually brings to the table. He'll be staying for the rest of the season though.


Worcesterwhite

Quote from: KingofCheese on February 15, 2020, 10:22:14 PM
Quote from: elgreenio on February 15, 2020, 10:17:46 PM
I'm struggling to remember any games that we've really played well, unless you happen to combine the two 1st halves of Milwall and Boro at home.

Beyond that Parker just doesn't come across with any vibrancy does he, he's a hard man to get behind.

It's such a shame as we've addressed some of the mistakes behind the scenes this time around (including purchase options in loans, removing the big money flops of last season, bringing back Stuart Gray)

Still in 3rd place and only 3 points behind Leeds..the way people talk it's as if we are in the relegation zone. As to the land of milk and honey, did any of us enjoy last year in the Prem?
If you can't see we are underperforming for the squad we have then something is wrong, some people may be happy with the current manager doing the bare minimum with the squad at his disposal, but some realize that the end product we are producing is just not good enough.

Zoppa77

What will it take for the SP supporters to realise he simply isn't good enough to coach at this level. We were outplayed on all level against the bottom placed side. A side that may well be playing League 1 next season. For those who argue our current 3rd position on the ladder, we may as well be 21st as we are not going to win the play offs should we make them. Change is needed. 'Doing the same thing yet expecting different outcome' springs to mind. 13 games remain. There is time to rectify this mess. SP out please.

Baszab

"Destined for play-offs" ???

We have a three point cushion with Derby away on Friday

Dream on


rogerpbackinMidEastUS

#35
There is no doubt that squad for squad there should be no better team than us.
I've watched most of our games from over here in Florida.
I have seen a few teams against us much better, eg  Brentford and Barnsley today.
And a few teams who are worse or (like Barnsley) were better trained for it.
With regard today, we actually weren't too bad for effort, but here was no "class" or desire
that we should expect from this squad
We were completely overrun, particularly in midfield, it almost seemed that they has 13 players on the pitch.
When we actually got the ball in their box there were some many players with so much desire to keep us out
But....
By the time we started doing this it was too late.
Our defence has been great for a few games, I think our subs and tactics completely blew it for us.
We were still 'in it' at 1-0 and 2-0,,however............
Our initial selection and tactics + subs were quite honestly bizarre.
It was a wet, slippery pitch and yet we didn't 'run at them'
Whoever advises the players on what studs they wore should be out of a job.
One bad game from Rodak shouldn't relegate him, he was left exposed, but made a couple of wrong decisions.

One of those games.

But, I think it's time for Scott to move on.
If you can't design the tactics for this squad to win (easily) against far better prepared opposition, then
you shouldn't be in his job.
I'm sorry, I like the guy, but NO

The team needs motivating for the last few games,
Bring in a motivator
VERY DAFT AND A LOT DAFTER THAN I SEEM, SOMETIMES

Rodshig

Think we have given him enuf time. Change required.

I don't get the argument that Parker is doing a good job cos we are third. Given the squad we have, we should be leading the pack. We are underperforming and i put that down to the parker.

Going by how we have been playing, We will not get promoted even if we make the playoff.

Experienced manager in the championship will be required.


FulhamStu

#37
Academic question.  I think we could do a lot better than Parker and never understood why you invest so much in players but so little in a coach/manager.  Clearly the Khans have a huge amount of time for Parker so it's incredibly unlikely that they will sack him, esp with the club 3rd in the league.  I am not totally sure they would sack him if we were as low as 10th.

For me Parker strengths are his attempts to get the basics right, attitude, discipline, that sort of thing, but tactically and creatively he is weak and lacks imagination.   It's his first job and his safety first attitude is completely understandable.  I would however have thought the Khans would want better than that.

One thing that could be behind things are that the Khans are not as desperate for promotion this season as they say.  Maybe they want the football team given more stability and then to get promotion once the stand is nearer completion next season.  Maybe this is a trial season for Parker, that would all at least make some kind of sense to me.

Having such a high caliber playing squad that must me using up all FFP allowance yet such a lowly qualifies manager and coach is frankly odd.


One Martin Thomas

Quote from: Dodger53 on February 15, 2020, 08:28:20 PM
Parker didn't see it coming.... I did.

I did too ! Last two matches were awful: 1st half against Millwall and match against Blackburn. Blackburn going forward were that weak and MOTM was Hector ???????!!!!!!!!? Somethings wrong.

The players are not running for him and he's lost the dressing-room IMO

Mince n Tatties

I'm afraid you can all yapper on about it till the cows come home,there is no way the Khans are going to sack him sitting 3rd in table.