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Anguissa: Merged

Started by perry geyton, May 12, 2022, 03:25:28 PM

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Mince n Tatties

Some players are suited to other teams and other countries  leagues,he just wasn't suited to ours.
He's not the first,and want be the last.

jayffc

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on September 08, 2022, 03:08:03 PM
Some players are suited to other teams and other countries  leagues,he just wasn't suited to ours.
He's not the first,and want be the last.

Yeh were just not going to agree on this Im afraid...

If you judged 99% our teams performances in the prem during Anguissas time here you'd assume basically none of the players were suitable for this league.

And yet, under a different manager, even Ream has been good at this level... Mitro was also accused of not being able to do it at that level because he was utterly dreadful on the season under Parker. Looked way more undermotivated and unfit than Anguissa, completely underwhelmed... but its pretty clear the issue was the manager and his style of play. Its not that Mitro didnt have this talent in his locker all the time, he just needed a manager capable of unlocking his full potential.

As many here have stated well, Anguissa has performed very well in 2 other top leagues for big clubs and also at international level and in european competitions. And in plenty of moments for us, he showed that class, but ultimately he was playing alongside players and enduring tactics that didn't utilize him best.

Sorry but you won't convince me otherwise. Anguissa could absolutely do it at this level, as he did dominationg Liverpool this week... hes easily talented enough and Silva knew it which is why he would have wanted to keep him.

Ah well, In some ways I hope for his sake one day he does a Mitro and returns to the Prem and dominates, just a shame it likely wouldnt be with us as I really do think him and Palhinha in CDM would be brilliant to watch under Silva

Hatch007

Quote from: Palhinha Colada on September 07, 2022, 09:39:21 PM
The deflected goal vs Everton was actually RLC's only goal at Fulham. Anguissa never scored for us.
Ah yes my apologies I stand corrected.

Even more amazing that he scored against Liverpool


Middlesexclub

Think he hit nearly the inside of the post for that goal last night. With the best wish in the world he is not a natural finisher. He did have a great game though.

hovewhite

Quote from: Twig on September 08, 2022, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: Willham on September 07, 2022, 11:49:34 PM
Quote from: Count Flapula on September 07, 2022, 10:02:35 PM
Mitro
O'Riley
Anguissa

A lot of this is viewed through the prism of hindsight but Parker has a lot to answer for. Too many coincidences for it not to be down to him and cost Fulham criminally in various ways.

You could also add carvalho onto that list, if parker had given him a bigger role then a near 200 mins when relegation was certain, then he'd have signed a new contract that year. Instead he went into his last year and we all regretfully know the rest.

Add Cavaleiro too. Parker grossly misused him and destroyed his Fulham career.
Parker playing him as a false 9 think he was as confused as the rest of us when given that role by nosy.

S.F.Sorrow

#245
It's easy to blame Parker for everything but we signed Anguissa long before Parker arrived. Anguissa actually performed far worse under Jokanovic (and the couple of games he got under Ranieri). He was used in a role he was unfamiliar with and was very much a square peg in a round hole for us. What we desperately needed at the time was a replacement for KMac but TK and our recruitment team wasted an insane amount of money on Anguissa+Seri instead. Neither of them had the necessary skill set to play the lone DM 'KMac role' in Joka's team.

If anything, Anguissa performed far better in his last season for us under Parker. At least until he got covid.

He always looked like a quality player but was clearly played out of position in Joka's team. Signing him that season was a huge mistake by TK and our rectruitment team. We also overpaid for him and were financially crippled by this for several seasons. Parker had nothing to do with this.

Don't get me wrong, I was happy to get rid of Parker but let's at least get the facts straight.


FreiBird

Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.

perry geyton

Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.
One of the best midfielders in the league
Comical


@jolslover

Anguissa would have been the best midfielder in Champ if he had stayed .. if that's what he means

Anguissas performance against Liverpool (a premier league team) shows his potential that he could have been one of the top CMs in the Prem

I thought he was good when he played for us too, I suspect if he was an academy player people would have rated him more

STH H3


FFC1987

Quote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2022, 04:55:08 PM
Anguissa would have been the best midfielder in Champ if he had stayed .. if that's what he means

Anguissas performance against Liverpool (a premier league team) shows his potential that he could have been one of the top CMs in the Prem

I thought he was good when he played for us too, I suspect if he was an academy player people would have rated him more

Love Anguissa. But this is very hyperbolic. He's good, but he isn't great. There's some great CM's that when all is said and done will be talked about as greats in the Prem. Anguissa won't be in that conservation and I doubt he'll achieve much more in terms of accolades in foreign leagues.

ffcne

Anguissa was anonymous in most games for us .
Looked like his heart was never in playing for Fulham


Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: ffcne on September 09, 2022, 05:24:41 PM
Anguissa was anonymous in most games for us .
Looked like his heart was never in playing for Fulham



Perfectly correct
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


Stevieboy

Quote from: Somerset Fulham on September 07, 2022, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 07, 2022, 09:01:40 PM
Putting on a 10/10 performance against Liverpool in the Champions League here, Gammons celebrated him leaving the club hahaha.

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Thought Perry had been telling porkies again when I saw this thread reappear.  :wine:

Zambo was absolutely outstanding tonight, I am glad he is doing so well and sad that we couldn't unlock what every other club he has played for has unlocked.


Gammons ?? What's that all about.
Anguissa playing well for Napoli is about as important as what Scott Parker is doing at the moment, neither concern Fulham in any way.

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Pluto on September 07, 2022, 09:04:16 PM
He put in countless terrible performances for us, most of which were completely devoid of effort. One half decent game doesn't make him a good premier league player.

Glad to see the back of him, i expect the dressing room is also glad he is no longer with us.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

alfie

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 09, 2022, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: ffcne on September 09, 2022, 05:24:41 PM
Anguissa was anonymous in most games for us .
Looked like his heart was never in playing for Fulham



Perfectly correct
Let's not forget who's style and tactics he was trying to play.
Story of my life
"I was looking back to see if she was looking back to see if i was looking back at her"
Sadly she wasn't


FreiBird

Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.
One of the best midfielders in the league
Comical

Sadly can't make you understand football but it's nice you watch it for the pretty jerseys or whatever.

perry geyton

Quote from: Stevieboy on September 09, 2022, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on September 07, 2022, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 07, 2022, 09:01:40 PM
Putting on a 10/10 performance against Liverpool in the Champions League here, Gammons celebrated him leaving the club hahaha.

064.gif

Thought Perry had been telling porkies again when I saw this thread reappear.  :wine:

Zambo was absolutely outstanding tonight, I am glad he is doing so well and sad that we couldn't unlock what every other club he has played for has unlocked.


Gammons ?? What's that all about.
Anguissa playing well for Napoli is about as important as what Scott Parker is doing at the moment, neither concern Fulham in any way.

Porkies"hillarious !!!
I just mentioned my Friend Alfredo is from Napoli and says Zambo's hit & miss
He thinks it's a bit far fetched

perry geyton

Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.
One of the best midfielders in the league
Comical

Sadly can't make you understand football but it's nice you watch it for the pretty jerseys or whatever.

OK mr know it all
I'd take Joao all day long over him, plays for the badge and doesn't think he's supreme to others

Oh yeah and he can score

But what do I know I just like pretty jerseys


Twig

Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.

Whenever someone doesn't agree wit your views you slag them off; "fans who don't know football...".  Why on earth can't you accept that footbsll is a game that generates differing opinions and many of them can have a degree of legitimacy.
As to Zambo being the one of the best midfielders ine the league, well I personlly would disagree with that assertion as he never showed he could produce at that level in the Premier League and I tend to go with the evidence in fron of me.  Without hard evidence your assertion becomes just another opinion, nothing more.

Colton F.C.

Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.
One of the best midfielders in the league
Comical

Sadly can't make you understand football but it's nice you watch it for the pretty jerseys or whatever.
You are absolutely right Firebird.  For Anguissa read the late great Frank Large who managed to bang in plenty of goals for whatever club he played for except Fulham.  An extraordinary waste of talent.