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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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Coastwalker

Strange that we're not being rumoured with any most of the time,that's all gone quiet.

FFC1987

Bournemouth links with a £15-20m bid for Nelson. Can't say how impressed I'd be if we spent upwards of £20m on him. But I don't think that's an unfair market valuation either. Serious question marks over his ability to stay fit.

irish_mike

Quote from: FFC1987 on July 15, 2025, 08:36:55 AMBournemouth links with a £15-20m bid for Nelson. Can't say how impressed I'd be if we spent upwards of £20m on him. But I don't think that's an unfair market valuation either. Serious question marks over his ability to stay fit.
hasn't done anything to justify that price rag


Count Flapula

#2263
Quote from: irish_mike on July 15, 2025, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 15, 2025, 08:36:55 AMBournemouth links with a £15-20m bid for Nelson. Can't say how impressed I'd be if we spent upwards of £20m on him. But I don't think that's an unfair market valuation either. Serious question marks over his ability to stay fit.
hasn't done anything to justify that price rag

Price tag yes (reasonable in today's market IMO), £100k/week wages not so sure.

I'd be suprised if Bournemouth paid him that as their current highest earner is their Brazilian striker on £85k/week.

Rumours are he's interested in joining us and Silva wants him/club not so sure. I reckon the wages for someone with his injury record are the stumbling block for the club and frankly I get it, good player nonetheless. Contract negotiations are Ali Mac's domain and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is trying to structure as low a basic wage as possible (i.e: less than £100k/week) which could be why he's not signed yet as he assesses his options.

I'd like him back from a player perspective but Arsenal have a lot to answer for by massively over inflating his wages like that. Their wage bill must be a bloated mess if this is anything to go by.



YoungsBitter

As well as Nelson according to the Gruaniad they are looking to shift Zinchenko, who we have also had some random links with but also Fabio Viera. He played through all Portugal youth age groups and at Porto was seen as a big future star, Arsenal paid 30plus million Euros for him in 2022 but couple of injuries and as right footed he is behind Saka on right wing and behind Odegaard, Rice and Trossard in midfield, so not really been playing and spent part of last season on loan back at Porto. He strikes me as a classic Marco Silva signing and Arse would take package £15m++ probably.
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bencher

Quote from: YoungsBitter on July 15, 2025, 09:22:02 AMAs well as Nelson according to the Gruaniad they are looking to shift Zinchenko, who we have also had some random links with but also Fabio Viera. He played through all Portugal youth age groups and at Porto was seen as a big future star, Arsenal paid 30plus million Euros for him in 2022 but couple of injuries and as right footed he is behind Saka on right wing and behind Odegaard, Rice and Trossard in midfield, so not really been playing and spent part of last season on loan back at Porto. He strikes me as a classic Marco Silva signing and Arse would take package £15m++ probably.

Vieira has quality on the ball, but there are questions about whether he's too lightweight for the PL. I expect him to go to a different league.


demeant0r

Why does Arsenal have so many injury-prone players? Something in their training ground must be ruining their players.

Tabby

Think Viera would be £25 million at least. Arsenal are pretty stubborn about selling their players unless they are on high wages (like Leno) or persona non grata like Guendozi. They managed to flog Nketiah for £25 million.

Drewry66

#2268
I really, really like Nelson but £15m to £20m if true has to be crazy money for the injuries he's had. Worth it if fit but how can that be guaranteed? Hamstrings can be a nightmare. The surgery could have fixed it but no guarantees. Wasn't Kongolo hamstrings and barely played a game for us?

The only way I'd pay tgat is if it was a loan with an obligation based on appearances to prove his fitness next season. As much as I'd love him back as I think if he stays fit he really has something unless it is a loan deal as above or something like £5m with a tonne of add ons I'd walk away. And yeah either way he'd need to drop wages significantly and then potentially have a load of bonuses built in again for appearances etc. Sounds like he is desperate to come back to us and the player has to agree to any deal so surely we hold most of the cards here.


ffcthereligion


Tabby

When it comes to Nelson the absolute max I would pay is £10-12 million. He hasn't consistently played a full season since 2019. He probably has great talent and impresses in training, but he seems to be made of glass.

Lordedmundo

Quote from: Drewry66 on July 15, 2025, 09:48:20 AMI really, really like Nelson but £15m to £20m if true has to be crazy money for the injuries he's had. Worth it if fit but how can that be guaranteed? Hamstrings can be a nightmare. The surgery could have fixed it but no guarantees. Wasn't Kongolo hamstrings and barely played a game for us?

The only way I'd pay tgat is if it was a loan with an obligation based on appearances to prove his fitness next season. As much as I'd love him back as I think if he stays fit he really has something unless it is a loan deal as above or something like £5m with a tonne of add ons I'd walk away. And yeah either way he'd need to drop wages significantly and then potentially have a load of bonuses built in again for appearances etc. Sounds like he is desperate to come back to us and the player has to agree to any deal so surely we hold most of the cards here.

No - Kongolo's main injury at Fulham was a broken foot. That kept him completely out of action for a entire year and he never really got fit for us after that. I understand that has also had knee injuries since then, but he seems to be an incredibly injury prone players.

Sess had both his hamstrings surgically repaired in the year or so before he joined us and thankfully has been fine since then.  Prior to that I think he had had physical therapy to fix them, which clearly didn't work as he seemed to get hamstring issues repeatedly at Spurs prior to the surgery.


Drewry66

Quote from: Lordedmundo on July 15, 2025, 10:34:00 AM
Quote from: Drewry66 on July 15, 2025, 09:48:20 AMI really, really like Nelson but £15m to £20m if true has to be crazy money for the injuries he's had. Worth it if fit but how can that be guaranteed? Hamstrings can be a nightmare. The surgery could have fixed it but no guarantees. Wasn't Kongolo hamstrings and barely played a game for us?

The only way I'd pay tgat is if it was a loan with an obligation based on appearances to prove his fitness next season. As much as I'd love him back as I think if he stays fit he really has something unless it is a loan deal as above or something like £5m with a tonne of add ons I'd walk away. And yeah either way he'd need to drop wages significantly and then potentially have a load of bonuses built in again for appearances etc. Sounds like he is desperate to come back to us and the player has to agree to any deal so surely we hold most of the cards here.

No - Kongolo's main injury at Fulham was a broken foot. That kept him completely out of action for a entire year and he never really got fit for us after that. I understand that has also had knee injuries since then, but he seems to be an incredibly injury prone players.

Sess had both his hamstrings surgically repaired in the year or so before he joined us and thankfully has been fine since then.  Prior to that I think he had had physical therapy to fix them, which clearly didn't work as he seemed to get hamstring issues repeatedly at Spurs prior to the surgery.

Ah yeah...foot rings a bell now. What a strange injury to keep someone out for so long. Suppose still worries powers that be after nightmares with him and Mawson after big outlays. Then again they took the risk with ESR for a big fee and Sess of course but low with him with no fee.

Just a shame Bournemouth are in for him if true as really didn't think anyone would go for him after major hamstring surgery and we could have picked him up for next to nothing. See what happens.

If we can get him for the right price and the keep him fit he's in the top percentiles for so many stats I think he really could be a player for us:

https://fbref.com/en/players/c5bdb6e3/scout/365_m1/Reiss-Nelson-Scouting-Report

MickTheBeard

#2273
No one will pay money for Nelson upfront as he has 2 years on his contract at 100 ooo a week, it would only be a loan with either a percentage of his wages of pay as you play system to see how his injury's are after his operations that to me is the only option but remember he has 2years of top wages he hasn't got to do nothing I'm sure theirs other options proper scouting with younger personnel to sell at a higher price later if we carry on like this we will have ti have a ambulance on the side of the pitch for the sick notes and our age old players.

General

Quote from: DM on July 14, 2025, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: lomotd on July 14, 2025, 05:13:48 PM
Quote from: DM on July 14, 2025, 02:31:11 PMKnew TC would stick around ✍️

I wouldn't assume this means he's staying. No doubt Fulham would let him train with the club until his contract status is sorted out either way.

He's staying fella. 👍🏻

DM, can you please - either privately or publicly, *please* give us some hope or information that is more than the zero we've got so far.

Are we talking to anyone? Are any deals potentially close? What positions? Are they names we've already heard about or not?

How many deals this summer?...

What's the situation/likelihood of us signing Nelson?

ANYTHING... please..


SuffolkWhite

I'm not understanding the mild panic on here. We have an established Premier League  squad, and yes we could do with 4 to 5 players, but we do eventually bring them in.

At the end of the window if we haven't signed players we can all jump up and down.
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"How's that?"
"Don't you start"

iansthailand

BBC are saying Seth Ridgeon has signed for Manure. Unless the rules have changed i believe we get better compensation by going to an English club than going foreign. Still a pittance though!

bencher

Quote from: SuffolkWhite on July 15, 2025, 01:21:21 PMI'm not understanding the mild panic on here. We have an established Premier League  squad, and yes we could do with 4 to 5 players, but we do eventually bring them in.

At the end of the window if we haven't signed players we can all jump up and down.

The mild panic is best explained as follows. During the summer off-season, we are essentially starved of something that, for better or worse, we are addicted to. Transfer news is the closest thing we can get to attending or watching matches, and discussing good and bad performances. Incoming transfers are some kind of surrogate for winning games and amassing points. Other teams signing players while we do not, is equivalent to having zero points after x number of games.

We just need our Fulham fix and without transfers we are having withdrawal symptoms. It explains why if we do actually sign someone, it will not be a day or two before we start to moan again. The only mild relief comes from friendlys.


Whitestone

#2278
I'm not interpreting the concerns expressed on here as 'mild panic'.    In thirty two days team the Premier League resumes and it does concern me that we haven't improved the squad yet.  I don't doubt there will be signings but for me they don't come soon enough at Fulham. I don't expect all deals to be done in advance because good opportunities often present themselves as the window unfolds but I think it is reasonable to think the club could get deals agreed a bit sooner.

Drewry66

#2279
Signings with dates last year:

Ryan Sessegnon   - 26 Jul, 2024
Emile Smith Rowe - 02 Aug, 2024
Jorge Cuenca - 03 Aug, 2024
Sander Berge - 22 Aug, 2024
Joachim Andersen - 23 Aug, 2024

That was when we had some huge glaring holes in the squad and the first was still only 26/07.

 :slap:

This year no glaring holes so don't expect anything any earlier.

We know we have bid for Romulo (so seems like our first choice for striker) and their owner said he expected it to be sorted in a few days last Wednesday.

You just wonder whether the whole striker situation at Arsenal and going for Gokyres or Sesko is effecting this as the rumours are Leipzig are definitely interested and Sporting might be but they may be after Luis Suarez instead. May need to be finalised first as if Arsenal completely sack off Sesko could mean he stays snd Leipzig no longer need Rômulo.

This is why it takes time...prob have to wait to see what the big clubs do half the time first before players then become available...knock on effects. If Romulo favours Leipzig but they suddenly no longer need him we get our first choice. Pure guessing on my part but you can imagine many situations like this.

Most of the above signing we didn't know about until not long before they happened so prob suddenly get a few through out of the blue late July, early August as other deals go through and players are then available.