Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

[Arthur]

...most of their signings have been 21 or younger, not sure we're even being linked with players in that bracket.

But will they turn out to be better than King or Ridgeon?

To appease you, may I make a genuine point in a light-hearted way by suggesting you pretend King has just been signed from a lesser-known foreign club and that we are close to pulling off a similar acquisition with Ridgeon? It may make us seem more like the Bournemouths and Brightons you want us to emulate.

[Drewry66]

From FFN:

"Nelson will be a loan with a relatively low obligation. Deal should be completed soon. ⏳"

Others asked of course what the 'relatively low obligation' was and he said he's trying to get more info on the terms.

As a complete guess if it's an obligation based on say 30+ games played and then £10m to £15m as relatively low that's a great deal I reckon.

[hopper]

From FFN:

"Nelson will be a loan with a relatively low obligation. Deal should be completed soon. ⏳"

Others asked of course what the 'relatively low obligation' was and he said he's trying to get more info on the terms.

As a complete guess if it's an obligation based on say 30+ games played and then £10m to £15m as relatively low that's a great deal I reckon.

Only awkward thing about Nelson is that he was supposedly on 100k wages at Arsenal which is obviously way too much. We shouldn't be doing that.

Wonder what the salary side of the deal involves.

[Drewry66]

From FFN:

"Nelson will be a loan with a relatively low obligation. Deal should be completed soon. ⏳"

Others asked of course what the 'relatively low obligation' was and he said he's trying to get more info on the terms.

As a complete guess if it's an obligation based on say 30+ games played and then £10m to £15m as relatively low that's a great deal I reckon.

Only awkward thing about Nelson is that he was supposedly on 100k wages at Arsenal which is obviously way too much. We shouldn't be doing that.

Wonder what the salary side of the deal involves.

All rumours were he was willing to drop to be at a club where he's valued and played. No way we're putting him on £100k a week with the injuries if we take him perm. You'd hope £50k to £75k max.

[General]

From FFN:

"Nelson will be a loan with a relatively low obligation. Deal should be completed soon. ⏳"

Others asked of course what the 'relatively low obligation' was and he said he's trying to get more info on the terms.

As a complete guess if it's an obligation based on say 30+ games played and then £10m to £15m as relatively low that's a great deal I reckon.

He's a threat at this level, and young.has ability to go past players, score and assist.

If we gethim for that, and he stays injury free then it'll definitely be a bargain as he'd add a lot to us.

[JimmyConway]

Common thread re Nelson ?
" if he stays fit"
Everyone to a man has doubts and quite right to. If he was signing for any other team we would be laughing but for some reason he is going to be injury free at Fulham next season!
I really hope he gets an injury free run but not sure he is as good as some make out?

[Rambler]

Whether this is a good deal (Nelson) will depend on the fee.
He's like glass. Been injured a lot so that obligation has to be low.

I really hope it is no more than 10 million.

I don't know why we are going after all these Arsenal players. They really aren't that great

[Angus Telford]

...most of their signings have been 21 or younger, not sure we're even being linked with players in that bracket.

But will they turn out to be better than King or Ridgeon?

To appease you, may I make a genuine point in a light-hearted way by suggesting you pretend King has just been signed from a lesser-known foreign club and that we are close to pulling off a similar acquisition with Ridgeon? It may make us seem more like the Bournemouths and Brightons you want us to emulate.

Doesn't come close to offsetting the youth they already have in their own squads mate.
They also have their own academies, but even if you assume ours is better, they've been signing far more youngsters than us for the last few years.
Again, my point isn't to opine how terrible this is (having done that loads already) just saying here that it's a fact we need to accept.
These are much younger squads than ours, recruiting yet more young players, that are younger even than those we're linked with.

[Tabby]

Common thread re Nelson ?
" if he stays fit"
Everyone to a man has doubts and quite right to. If he was signing for any other team we would be laughing but for some reason he is going to be injury free at Fulham next season!
I really hope he gets an injury free run but not sure he is as good as some make out?

I remember people starting to talk about how we missed our shot and how the club was incompetent when he was rumoured to be going to Bournemouth. Same as when we got an influx of people being jealous of Brentford signing Henderson but getting incensed at the suggestion of us signing Xhaka.

I've said it earlier in the thread, but I assume that the Fulham physios will have a good idea about Nelson's injury prospects after working with him for the better part of a year. So there has to be a belief that the injuries aren't chronic. Sess has been fit for a year straight after being a constant sick note at Spurs, hopefully they can manage something similar for Nelson.

[Rightwhite]

Granit Xhaka Is a possibility getting really really 🤬🤬

Why??

[HV71]

I stand in a rather strange position on the Angus vs Jay debate
Angus posted
"I do think there should be some acceptance that our strategy is more about keeping PL status ticking over from one season to the next, rather than a long-term growth like theirs. If you think that sounds negative then stand behind it and explain why it's better, but I don't think it can reasonably be denied at this point."

I agree with this - but accept that in the world of football ( and as an ex director of a football club) it is a reasonable position for our owners to take. From a fans perspective I hate it as I always want to progress - Europe etc.
Jay makes many incredibly good , positive comments - but just as Angus is very pessimistic Jay is too sugary . When they argue and both " go on " I switch off - which is a shame as they both make valuable points
Anyway that is purely my view and I well understand if people do not agree

[Somerset Fulham]

Ah, things are way less heated and nasty than they were in times gone by and I am all over that because both guys generally always do make very valid points.  I appreciate it that both have dialled it back a notch and I do rather enjoy their discussions these days.

I am also aware that not many pages back I posted directly addressing my thoughts on 'judging other users' which is what I am doing here, but hopefully both concerned are reading this in a positive way.

[Rightwhite]

Ah, things are way less heated and nasty than they were in times gone by and I am all over that because both guys generally always do make very valid points.  I appreciate it that both have dialled it back a notch and I do rather enjoy their discussions these days.

I am also aware that not many pages back I posted directly addressing my thoughts on 'judging other users' which is what I am doing here, but hopefully both concerned are reading this in a positive way.

Fair play

[LC]

I think Nelson is a good player and if he can stay fit then I think we can get great a deal for him. I think Arsenal will struggle to get more than £10m for him. He's English so that comes with a premium and he has potential so I don't think we should be paying more than £15m for him total. An idea deal, from my perspective anyway, would be a loan with an option rather than an obligation for £15m. The risk is we have an £15m obligation and he gets injured again and has another lengthy spell on the sideline which could really hurt his career. Let's see what happens.

[Arthur]

Doesn't come close to offsetting the youth they already have in their own squads mate.
They also have their own academies, but even if you assume ours is better, they've been signing far more youngsters than us for the last few years.
Again, my point isn't to opine how terrible this is (having done that loads already) just saying here that it's a fact we need to accept.
These are much younger squads than ours, recruiting yet more young players, that are younger even than those we're linked with.

I don't think there was a suggestion on my part we are their equal per se. I was responding to your earlier lament in which you referred to these clubs as having 'all signed 2-6 players by now... most... 21 or under'. I was suggesting King and Ridgeon (if he stays) are the equivalent of two such signings. I was also endeavouring to make the point buying young players is not desirable simply because they are young. They do also need to be good. And in King and Ridgeon, we can be at least as confident as our rivals of having two young players who will 'make the grade'.

[sunburywhite]

From FFN:

"Nelson will be a loan with a relatively low obligation. Deal should be completed soon. ⏳"

Others asked of course what the 'relatively low obligation' was and he said he's trying to get more info on the terms.

As a complete guess if it's an obligation based on say 30+ games played and then £10m to £15m as relatively low that's a great deal I reckon.

Only awkward thing about Nelson is that he was supposedly on 100k wages at Arsenal which is obviously way too much. We shouldn't be doing that.

Wonder what the salary side of the deal involves.

All rumours were he was willing to drop to be at a club where he's valued and played. No way we're putting him on £100k a week with the injuries if we take him perm. You'd hope £50k to £75k max.

If he cant play shouldnt he then be on Statutory Sick Pay

[Thailand Mick]

I think Nelson is a good player and if he can stay fit then I think we can get great a deal for him. I think Arsenal will struggle to get more than £10m for him. He's English so that comes with a premium and he has potential so I don't think we should be paying more than £15m for him total. An idea deal, from my perspective anyway, would be a loan with an option rather than an obligation for £15m. The risk is we have an £15m obligation and he gets injured again and has another lengthy spell on the sideline which could really hurt his career. Let's see what happens.

I would suggest paying Arsenal 1m for every 10 games he plays upto 20m,if he plays 200 games we would have got a bargain and Arsenal get a decent fee for an injury plagued player.

[rusty shackleford]

Its kind of mad how much money gets spent on players with complicated injury history

Would you buy a car that broke down 50% of the time you drove it

[FFC1987]

Its kind of mad how much money gets spent on players with complicated injury history

Would you buy a car that broke down 50% of the time you drove it

Massive part on these players as well is insurance. There was an interesting interview with our own Mawson about how much of his wages went to insure his legs....

[Woolly Mammoth]

Its kind of mad how much money gets spent on players with complicated injury history

Would you buy a car that broke down 50% of the time you drove it

Precisely, that is why I only use a Horse & Cart to get me from A to B, B to C, C to D, D to E, E to F, F to G, G to H, H to I, I to J, J to K, K to L, L to M, M to N, N to O, O to P, P to Q, Q to R, R to S, S to T, T to U, U to V, V to W, W to X, X to Y, Y to Z, Z to A and so on.