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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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jayffc

#6620
Quote from: demeant0r on August 25, 2025, 11:56:00 PM
Quote from: jayffc on August 25, 2025, 11:50:09 PM
Quote from: demeant0r on August 25, 2025, 11:23:02 PMWith the sale of Andrea, I'm fully expecting us to complete the purchase of Kevin.

Allegedly we made our final bid and shaktar haven't accepted it so that's that. Some rumour that if they find another wing replacement on top what they have already he may be allowed to move on. Player wants move, his team think it's a fair bid and are angry with his club (apparently)...ultimately we appear to have offered our top bid. And it is already pretty huge for us, a significant club record offer. 🤷

I'm not sure we can or should be raising it even higher, and I really like kevin. I suspect we'll wait it out till the deadline at this point whilst lining up 2 of nelson/sterling/chuk or another in case they stick to their guns and say no still.

That's disappointing. Would be nice to lower the average age, any one of Nelson/Sterling/Chuk will not do that. At this stage, let's just give Godo some game time.

Not crazily but we lost Willian and vinicius

So both chuk and nelson are significantly younger than those that left. Nelson is miles ahead of Godo talent wise curenrtly, it's just a matter of if he can stay fit.

I'm not one for playing youth just because they're young. They need to be able to contribute now, like king, and I don't think Martials there yet. I think he needs a loan first.

Id like Kevin as much as the next man but ultimately if they won't budge they won't budge and we do have to have some limits to what we're willing or able to pay

Angus Telford

We raised the average age by swapping Benda for Lecomte. Godo isn't good enough so agree he should be moved on (whether loan or perm) but he's our second youngest player so that'll also raise the average age. Can't see our other business offsetting those moves.

Moussa Dembele the 3rd

Quote from: jayffc on August 26, 2025, 12:09:15 AM
Quote from: demeant0r on August 25, 2025, 11:56:00 PM
Quote from: jayffc on August 25, 2025, 11:50:09 PM
Quote from: demeant0r on August 25, 2025, 11:23:02 PMWith the sale of Andrea, I'm fully expecting us to complete the purchase of Kevin.

Allegedly we made our final bid and shaktar haven't accepted it so that's that. Some rumour that if they find another wing replacement on top what they have already he may be allowed to move on. Player wants move, his team think it's a fair bid and are angry with his club (apparently)...ultimately we appear to have offered our top bid. And it is already pretty huge for us, a significant club record offer. 🤷

I'm not sure we can or should be raising it even higher, and I really like kevin. I suspect we'll wait it out till the deadline at this point whilst lining up 2 of nelson/sterling/chuk or another in case they stick to their guns and say no still.

That's disappointing. Would be nice to lower the average age, any one of Nelson/Sterling/Chuk will not do that. At this stage, let's just give Godo some game time.

Not crazily but we lost Willian and vinicius

So both chuk and nelson are significantly younger than those that left. Nelson is miles ahead of Godo talent wise curenrtly, it's just a matter of if he can stay fit.

I'm not one for playing youth just because they're young. They need to be able to contribute now, like king, and I don't think Martials there yet. I think he needs a loan first.

Id like Kevin as much as the next man but ultimately if they won't budge they won't budge and we do have to have some limits to what we're willing or able to pay

I'm kind of hoping Shaktar are just holding on to Kevin for their conference league qualifier on Thursday. After that they'll sell. Especially if they lose.


C Block

Shaktar have tonight splashed out over £10 million on an attacking midfielder,
Surely this signals the departure of Kevin.

Arthur

Quote from: hopper on August 25, 2025, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: Angus Telford on August 25, 2025, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on August 25, 2025, 07:31:21 PMJesus wept!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgr9k81yz8do
Would I rather Muniz or Strand Larsen?  Its not even a question.
If it were a question, it might essentially be, would you rather 18 PL goal contributions per season or 10 PL contributions per season?
Played almost three times as many minutes. But why offer context?

Strand-Larsen did, indeed, play many more minutes than Muniz for his 14 goals and 4 assists. (2,600 to Muniz's 950). Breaking this statistic down further, however, Strand-Larsen took almost 2000 minutes to register the first 7 goals and 2 assists and only a little over 600 minutes to add his second lot of 7 goals and 2 assists. It could be, therefore, the player simply needed time to adapt to the demands of the P.L. and is now showing his true capabilities. This, in my opinion, is the view Newcastle have taken in tabling their bid of £50M.

And, to my eyes, it looks as if Strand-Larsen, more so than Muniz, is more like the player Newcastle are seeking to replace in Alexander Isak. Isak is capable of running with the ball between the half-way line and the penalty area - something we don't really see from Muniz. Strand-Larsen, on the other hand, while not possessing Isak's sublime technique, will run at defenders with the ball.

jayffc

#6625
Quote from: C Block on August 26, 2025, 01:06:44 AMShaktar have tonight splashed out over £10 million on an attacking midfielder,
Surely this signals the departure of Kevin.

Kevin is a winger? This guys a CAM/CM

+ They signed a winger over a week ago and that still hasnt signalled his departure sadly.


RS61

Quote from: jayffc on August 25, 2025, 11:50:09 PM
Quote from: demeant0r on August 25, 2025, 11:23:02 PMWith the sale of Andrea, I'm fully expecting us to complete the purchase of Kevin.

Allegedly we made our final bid and shaktar haven't accepted it so that's that. Some rumour that if they find another wing replacement on top what they have already he may be allowed to move on. Player wants move, his team think it's a fair bid and are angry with his club (apparently)...ultimately we appear to have offered our top bid. And it is already pretty huge for us, a significant club record offer. 🤷

I'm not sure we can or should be raising it even higher, and I really like kevin. I suspect we'll wait it out till the deadline at this point whilst lining up 2 of nelson/sterling/chuk or another in case they stick to their guns and say no still.

Where's the source on it being our last bid. Please don't say that FFN bloke.

Thailand Mick

Quote from: jayffc on August 26, 2025, 01:14:39 AM
Quote from: C Block on August 26, 2025, 01:06:44 AMShaktar have tonight splashed out over £10 million on an attacking midfielder,
Surely this signals the departure of Kevin.

Kevin is a winger? This guys a CAM/CM

+ They signed a winger over a week ago and that still hasnt signalled his departure sadly.
They really see this conference league game as important so no surprise that they want him to help them before letting him go. They were prepared to play him in the first leg even though he only returned from injury a couple of days before.

iansthailand

Quote from: HV71 on August 25, 2025, 09:26:28 AM
Quote from: EN1 FFC on August 25, 2025, 09:19:45 AMI'm just hoping the club know that the close of trading is 7pm on Monday 1st September not 11pm.


Be even more worried if it clashes with any wrestling
Tony doesn't know his a^^e from his elbow re 'Proper' Football.


iansthailand

Quote from: deadcowboys on August 25, 2025, 03:00:05 PM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on August 25, 2025, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: cmg on August 25, 2025, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on August 25, 2025, 12:57:58 PMMake of this what you will, Calvin Bassey on snap chat.
https://x.com/karthikadhaigal/status/1959945762223317072

Beats the hell out of me.
He's joining the Army?
He's going to Clown School?
He, like me, can't take photos properly?

Such gnomic postings need a bit of explaination for slow old buffers like me.
It shows a picture of Nelson..

At least it's not the one eye, one arm version.
Might as well be the amount of football he's missed over his career.

iansthailand

Quote from: Fulham Tup North on August 25, 2025, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on August 25, 2025, 08:53:45 PM
Quote from: Angus Telford on August 25, 2025, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on August 25, 2025, 07:31:21 PMJesus wept!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgr9k81yz8do

Would I rather Muniz or Strand Larsen?  Its not even a question.

If it were a question, it might essentially be, would you rather 18 PL goal contributions per season or 10 PL contributions per season?

Muniz price just went up to 75k
I hope you meant £m?...  :slap:  ::thumb::
COYW
He didn't play that well on Sunday but that's a big drop in valuation!

LC

I just saw this on skysports website, nice read:

'Neville tells Fulham: Don't be disheartened over no signings
Sky Sports' Gary Neville on the Gary Neville Podcast:
"I thought Fulham were really good, really organised.
"I know that there's a lot of talk at Fulham about the fact they've not made signings and there's a little bit of despair. When a club doesn't make signings everyone feels a little bit sort of downbeat about it.
"But I looked at the Fulham team and I saw the Fulham bench, I thought: Fulham are okay, Fulham have got a good team already, they've got a good bench.
"Liverpool famously didn't really add too much to their team last year and won the title and sometimes not adding players can be as good as adding players because you can sort of freshen it up for no apparent reason. 
"From what I saw today of Fulham, the team that started did well and the four or five that came on did really well and they actually made them a lot better.
"You think of sort of Raúl Jiménez coming off the bench, Emile Smith Rowe, Antonee Robinson, Harry Wilson, they were really bright and they were too sharp for United in that last period of the game.
"So maybe one or two coming in this week would add a little bit of a spark that naturally a new signing does, but don't be too disheartened Fulham fans about it.
"The team that I saw consistently do well last season, I think will do well this season. The fact that you've come back in two games, you've shown a spirit, you've played well, I think it was a good performance from Fulham in the end.
"You think of the investment of Manchester United compared to Fulham and it's night and day, so you have to say that they're you know well out punching their weight and I thought they had a good day."


Tabby

Think Shaktar are also expected to be selling Sudyakov so that explains the new signing.

C Block

Quote from: jayffc on August 26, 2025, 01:14:39 AM
Quote from: C Block on August 26, 2025, 01:06:44 AMShaktar have tonight splashed out over £10 million on an attacking midfielder,
Surely this signals the departure of Kevin.

Kevin is a winger? This guys a CAM/CM

+ They signed a winger over a week ago and that still hasnt signalled his departure sadly.
He's still got to be paid for.

Slaphead in Qatar

Quote from: LC on August 26, 2025, 04:56:44 AMI just saw this on skysports website, nice read:

'Neville tells Fulham: Don't be disheartened over no signings
Sky Sports' Gary Neville on the Gary Neville Podcast:
"I thought Fulham were really good, really organised.
"I know that there's a lot of talk at Fulham about the fact they've not made signings and there's a little bit of despair. When a club doesn't make signings everyone feels a little bit sort of downbeat about it.
"But I looked at the Fulham team and I saw the Fulham bench, I thought: Fulham are okay, Fulham have got a good team already, they've got a good bench.
"Liverpool famously didn't really add too much to their team last year and won the title and sometimes not adding players can be as good as adding players because you can sort of freshen it up for no apparent reason. 
"From what I saw today of Fulham, the team that started did well and the four or five that came on did really well and they actually made them a lot better.
"You think of sort of Raúl Jiménez coming off the bench, Emile Smith Rowe, Antonee Robinson, Harry Wilson, they were really bright and they were too sharp for United in that last period of the game.
"So maybe one or two coming in this week would add a little bit of a spark that naturally a new signing does, but don't be too disheartened Fulham fans about it.
"The team that I saw consistently do well last season, I think will do well this season. The fact that you've come back in two games, you've shown a spirit, you've played well, I think it was a good performance from Fulham in the end.
"You think of the investment of Manchester United compared to Fulham and it's night and day, so you have to say that they're you know well out punching their weight and I thought they had a good day."

He's saying what I have been thinking all summer. I think we already have a good squad and I'm not worried over lack of signings.


Count Flapula

Quote from: Arthur on August 25, 2025, 11:46:35 PMWe can't get more than another club is willing to pay. The P.L. may be awash with money, but other countries less so. With no interest from within the P.L. and, possibly, the only bidder from abroad being Palmeiras, £10M for a player we are ready to sell is not a figure we can afford to reject, in my opinion.

I totally disagree. It's not just about what another clubs values him at - what we value him at as a threshold to sell is equally important. If we value him at more than £10m (which we should given the reasons I outline / how much it will cost to replace him / he still has 2 years in his contract so we aren't in THAT weak a bargaining position), then if no one meets our valuation then we negotiate higher or don't sell.

Why should we expect to bend over on both purchase AND sales transfers?

Given we've spent nothing so far, we absolutely can afford to not sell if no one pays true value and we dont have anyone else lined up, which it seems we don't if Silva's words on Friday are to be believed. If he leaves and we fail to replace it objectively weakens our squad.

I don't mind him leaving (and actually think we definitely should sell) IF we get a fair fee and bring in a replacement - if these conditions aren't met then we shouldn't.

Tabby

Ornstein also reporting that Mainoo is looking at leaving. We would probably only have chance at a loan, doubt United would sell for anything less than a ludicrous price and I think Mainoo would be aiming for a bigger club if it is a permanent transfer.

Rambler

Quote from: Count Flapula on August 26, 2025, 08:41:24 AM
Quote from: Arthur on August 25, 2025, 11:46:35 PMWe can't get more than another club is willing to pay. The P.L. may be awash with money, but other countries less so. With no interest from within the P.L. and, possibly, the only bidder from abroad being Palmeiras, £10M for a player we are ready to sell is not a figure we can afford to reject, in my opinion.

I totally disagree. It's not just about what another clubs values him at - what we value him at as a threshold to sell is equally important. If we value him at more than £10m (which we should given the reasons I outline / how much it will cost to replace him / he still has 2 years in his contract so we aren't in THAT weak a bargaining position), then if no one meets our valuation then we negotiate higher or don't sell.

Why should we expect to bend over on both purchase AND sales transfers?

Given we've spent nothing so far, we absolutely can afford to not sell if no one pays true value and we dont have anyone else lined up, which it seems we don't if Silva's words on Friday are to be believed. If he leaves and we fail to replace it objectively weakens our squad.

I don't mind him leaving (and actually think we definitely should sell) IF we get a fair fee and bring in a replacement - if these conditions aren't met then we shouldn't.

But if the flip side is he leaves for nothing at the end of his contract then we should sell. We aren't in a position where we can afford just to let assets leave for free


Bronaldinho

Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 26, 2025, 07:42:45 AM
Quote from: LC on August 26, 2025, 04:56:44 AMI just saw this on skysports website, nice read:

'Neville tells Fulham: Don't be disheartened over no signings
Sky Sports' Gary Neville on the Gary Neville Podcast:
"I thought Fulham were really good, really organised.
"I know that there's a lot of talk at Fulham about the fact they've not made signings and there's a little bit of despair. When a club doesn't make signings everyone feels a little bit sort of downbeat about it.
"But I looked at the Fulham team and I saw the Fulham bench, I thought: Fulham are okay, Fulham have got a good team already, they've got a good bench.
"Liverpool famously didn't really add too much to their team last year and won the title and sometimes not adding players can be as good as adding players because you can sort of freshen it up for no apparent reason. 
"From what I saw today of Fulham, the team that started did well and the four or five that came on did really well and they actually made them a lot better.
"You think of sort of Raúl Jiménez coming off the bench, Emile Smith Rowe, Antonee Robinson, Harry Wilson, they were really bright and they were too sharp for United in that last period of the game.
"So maybe one or two coming in this week would add a little bit of a spark that naturally a new signing does, but don't be too disheartened Fulham fans about it.
"The team that I saw consistently do well last season, I think will do well this season. The fact that you've come back in two games, you've shown a spirit, you've played well, I think it was a good performance from Fulham in the end.
"You think of the investment of Manchester United compared to Fulham and it's night and day, so you have to say that they're you know well out punching their weight and I thought they had a good day."

He's saying what I have been thinking all summer. I think we already have a good squad and I'm not worried over lack of signings.

Yeah, I don't agree with our transfer strategy of always leaving it late - But this year is the first year we're in a better position with our matchday squad probably for since Roy's days. We have some depth and quality on the bench, and I'd argue our bench was better than theirs at the weekend.

Doesn't mean we can sit back and relax, as I think a lot of us are wondering where's the next stars coming from, when some of our best players wind down or move on.

I think a few around 18-23 would give us some squad progression and more comfort in changing guard over next few seasons, as I'm sure we're all still scarred by the relegation under Jol and having Sidwell, Parker, Karagounis all between 32-36 in the middle of the park.
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wback100

Quote from: Tabby on August 26, 2025, 08:46:42 AMOrnstein also reporting that Mainoo is looking at leaving. We would probably only have chance at a loan, doubt United would sell for anything less than a ludicrous price and I think Mainoo would be aiming for a bigger club if it is a permanent transfer.

They might as well sell him for a good, but not ridiculous price, because he's homegrown and pure profit (like Garnacho). £100m for the pair and that probably pays off the big spending they've already done. But he won't come to us (I actually don't think he'd be a starter for us immediately either anyway). He's a kinda Villa/Tottenham kind of player, and if he goes, that's where he'll end up.