POST MATCH: Leeds

[andyk]

This tactic of shoring up the defence and trying to hold in to a point has been a complete failure every time.  Conceded late against, Newcastle,  Liverpool ( got lucky with the wonder strike) now Leeds. It's understandable when we're leading. But a level game is there to be won and a positive, attacking change puts the other team on the defensive, makes them think twice about committing too much. You're probably more likely to get your point than sitting back , handing them the initiative and momentum.

[SuffolkWhite]

I didn't listen to the game today, pleased I didn't!

We have to be honest with ourselves, in the last 6/7 games we have had some very close results that could have gone either way.

I think the hope of a Europe place was beginning to raise, but we do need at least 2 signings and the Nigerian players back.

We have done well so far considering the injuries and AFCON tbf, but today would appear a reality check reading what's said on this thread.

[Deeping_white]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

[jayffc]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

We'll just have Iwobi walk straight in with TC there off the bench. I'm not sure it will hurry anything else along.

[AJW48361]

The build up to the Leeds goal summed up everything they wanted it more than us today, probably evens it out over the 2 games against Leeds this season.

[Deeping_white]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

We'll just have Iwobi walk straight in with TC there off the bench. I'm not sure it will hurry anything else along.

We'll have no spare DM given Reed is about as much use as a chocolate teapot and Silva clearly doesn't trust him 90% of the time so I think it might do given we already clearly wanted one in

[Rambler]

We don't need to sign players necessarily, we just need to play better.

[Twig]

Best crosser of the ball at the club , let's remove that threat from his game .

Assuming for the sake of argument he is our best crosser, playing him on on the left wing really doesn't help matters because when deployed as a winger he really can't beat his man to deliver those crosses. He's a wingback or fullback or a late game attacking sub if chasing a goal.

Have to disagree with you. His crossing ability and his eye for goal plus an excellent football brain all tell me he's effective getting forward down the left. No idea why Marco played him out on the right, completely nullified his strengths.

[Fulham 1879]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

Unfortunately, wrong DM to get injured. If you had to pick one then it would be Pass the Parcel.

[Super Mick]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

With our recruitment? You must be joking!   Tony's probably eyeing up the next Hulk Hogan.

[Deeping_white]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

Unfortunately, wrong DM to get injured. If you had to pick one then it would be Pass the Parcel.

If you're trying to be disparaging about Berge, I suggest you look at Silva first given that's how he's instructing him to play

[fulhamfever]

With so much uncertainty about our manager next season and a few players out of contract I'm just going to enjoy this season for what it is

[Fulham 1879]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

Unfortunately, wrong DM to get injured. If you had to pick one then it would be Pass the Parcel.

If you're trying to be disparaging about Berge, I suggest you look at Silva first given that's how he's instructing him to play

I don't believe he instructs him to put an opposition player between the player he's just passed to and himself to take yet another breather. I don't believe he's instructed him to jog around the pitch like it's a dads' Sunday football game in a local park. I don't believe he's instructed him never to shoot because if he does he'll get a nosebleed. I don't believe he's instructed him never to make a crunching tackle. I don't believe he's instructed him to be slower than a sloth or to stand around like a lamppost. I do believe he's not good enough.

[Deeping_white]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

Unfortunately, wrong DM to get injured. If you had to pick one then it would be Pass the Parcel.

If you're trying to be disparaging about Berge, I suggest you look at Silva first given that's how he's instructing him to play

I don't believe he instructs him to put an opposition player between the player he's just passed to and himself to take yet another breather. I don't believe he's instructed him to jog around the pitch like it's a dads' Sunday football game in a local park. I don't believe he's instructed him never to shoot because if he does he'll get a nosebleed. I don't believe he's instructed him never to make a crunching tackle. I don't believe he's instructed him to be slower than a sloth or to stand around like a lamppost. I do believe he's not good enough.

If you're going to be emotive about today's game when he was nowhere near the worst player on the pitch then fair enough you're entitled to that opinion, but he's one of the most consistent players in the team and vital to the way that Silva wants the team to operate, especially in possession, so lets agree to disagree

[LittleErn]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

Unfortunately, wrong DM to get injured. If you had to pick one then it would be Pass the Parcel.

If you're trying to be disparaging about Berge, I suggest you look at Silva first given that's how he's instructing him to play

1 How do you know?
2 What are those instructions?

[Chi_FFC]

Best crosser of the ball at the club , let's remove that threat from his game .

Assuming for the sake of argument he is our best crosser, playing him on on the left wing really doesn't help matters because when deployed as a winger he really can't beat his man to deliver those crosses. He's a wingback or fullback or a late game attacking sub if chasing a goal.

Have to disagree with you. His crossing ability and his eye for goal plus an excellent football brain all tell me he's effective getting forward down the left.

When he's playing in defense and can overlap with a pacy/skilled winger in front of him. But when he's the winger he just can't get by defenders, whether he's on the right or left. I realize Sess is a favorite of many around here because of his history with the club, but when we're healthy (or relatively healthy) he has no business starting.

[sarnian]

Must be a day of rubbish performances today. Wasn't at game to know how bad it was but watched Man City who were awful as were Spurs and Arsenal pretty inaffective tonight.

[Twig]

Best crosser of the ball at the club , let's remove that threat from his game .

Assuming for the sake of argument he is our best crosser, playing him on on the left wing really doesn't help matters because when deployed as a winger he really can't beat his man to deliver those crosses. He's a wingback or fullback or a late game attacking sub if chasing a goal.

Have to disagree with you. His crossing ability and his eye for goal plus an excellent football brain all tell me he's effective getting forward down the left.

When he's playing in defense and can overlap with a pacy/skilled winger in front of him. But when he's the winger he just can't get by defenders, whether he's on the right or left. I realize Sess is a favorite of many around here because of his history with the club, but when we're healthy (or relatively healthy) he has no business starting.

Ok well we will just have to disagree. It's all a matter of opinion at the end of the day.

[Deeping_white]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

Unfortunately, wrong DM to get injured. If you had to pick one then it would be Pass the Parcel.

If you're trying to be disparaging about Berge, I suggest you look at Silva first given that's how he's instructing him to play

1 How do you know?
2 What are those instructions?

Great strawman argument - of course all the players do their own thing for 90 mins and don't follow the tactics set by the manager. He is quite clearly instructed to be the deepest midfielder when we're on the ball and screen the back four, given he will come short for the CB's and FB's as a passing option to move the ball forward and/or from left to right; the fact he does it every week is clearly a tactical decision on the part of Silva because otherwise he'd be telling him not to do it or drop him from the starting XI. If you'd like to see how Berge plays outside of Fulham, you can go and watch highlights of Norway's recent matches, where he is given more freedom to get forward.

[Chi_FFC]

More good news.
https://x.com/jackellyffc/status/2012577982833934593?s=20

Potentially a blessing in disguise. We needed a CM anyway so this probably speeds things up

Unfortunately, wrong DM to get injured. If you had to pick one then it would be Pass the Parcel.

If you're trying to be disparaging about Berge, I suggest you look at Silva first given that's how he's instructing him to play

1 How do you know?
2 What are those instructions?

Great strawman argument - of course all the players do their own thing for 90 mins and don't follow the tactics set by the manager. He is quite clearly instructed to be the deepest midfielder when we're on the ball and screen the back four, given he will come short for the CB's and FB's as a passing option to move the ball forward and/or from left to right; the fact he does it every week is clearly a tactical decision on the part of Silva because otherwise he'd be telling him not to do it or drop him from the starting XI. If you'd like to see how Berge plays outside of Fulham, you can go and watch highlights of Norway's recent matches, where he is given more freedom to get forward.

In 23-24 with Burnley Berge took 25 shots in 3000 PL minutes. Last season for us he took 3 in 2200. This season he's taken 5 in 1700.