FoF MOTM Fulham 2 V 1 Brighton and post match thread = Wilson

[jayffc]

Also today showed that Sess is genuinely the better LB than AR and when partnered with Chuck is different level

Sess had an absolute stinker the other day and people said the opposite. As ever,this is reactionary talk. The biggest actual game changers were chuk and TC today.

Robinson's return coincided with a run of 6 unbeaten games against top sides, this whilst He's returning from knee surgery. Were lucky to have two good options but Robinson's been one of the best prem right backs the last 2 years. antonees form isn't at previous high levels just yet, as one might expect when coming back from injury, but Sess has alot to do to warrant such talk.

[acji]

Thought Leno was at fault for their goal but after seeing Harry's goal I think he had no chance

Hate to say it but Robinson and Kevin stunk the place out, definitely looked a lot better with Sess and Chuck

ESR and Raul were pretty  lightweight too. Iwobi looked decent  but it has to be Chuk, he made a difference beyond levelling us up.

[ffcthereligion]

Castagne. Kept us in the match with clearances off the line. Different sort of player to Tete but we're fortunate to have such a decent back up.

Appreciate it's a game of opinions, but here are some facts.

#1 their goal came from Castagne not closing his man down and allowing the shot from range

#2 their disallowed goal happened because Castagne backed off from the halfway line about 20 yards, shirking the tackle when it was obvious a tactical foul was needed to deny a goal scoring opportunity

#3 the goal line clearance (which appears to be the basis for your praise) was only needed because castagne allowed Mitoma too much space (which dunk then spotted and exploited - albeit with a fantastic ball)

Unfortunately, Castagne leaving his man with too much space and misjudging crossfield balls is a repeat feature in his game.

One example came in this game itself. Early on, he allowed a ball to simply bounce off his head and go out for a corner.

Another occasion was Liverpool in the carabao cup semi final, where he allowed Diaz the freedom of the pitch and we were punished.

Or perhaps you recall palace in the quarter final? Where all 3 goals came from the left hand side and he was ruthlessly exposed?

Decent back up to you perhaps, unfortunately not for me

[Arthur]

I think we played well before they scored but, as is so often the case, we reached the half-hour mark having troubled their keeper only once. Brighton pressed us furiously in this time and both ESR and Berge handled it impeccably. After the goal, I think we actually did well not to concede another before half time. Sometimes, it has to be accepted the opposition are playing good football and, at those times, we need to hang in there - which we did. Half time gave us the chance to reset and, in a game that didn't have many clear cut chances, there was always the possibility we might score. If the game had ended level, we could say we had done enough to deserve something. A win, as others have said, was tough on Brighton. For me, Anderson edges out Chuk as MotM. The contrast between their high press and our low block was revealing. It looked as if we were working so much harder to get into their final third whereas they found pockets of space with which to move the ball forward far easier to come by.

[demeant0r]

Also today showed that Sess is genuinely the better LB than AR and when partnered with Chuck is different level

Sess had an absolute stinker the other day and people said the opposite. As ever,this is reactionary talk. The biggest actual game changers were chuk and TC today.

Robinson's return coincided with a run of 6 unbeaten games against top sides, this whilst He's returning from knee surgery. Were lucky to have two good options but Robinson's been one of the best prem right backs the last 2 years. antonees form isn't at previous high levels just yet, as one might expect when coming back from injury, but Sess has alot to do to warrant such talk.

Sess was playing in RW last game?

[KentFulham]

Castagne. Kept us in the match with clearances off the line. Different sort of player to Tete but we're fortunate to have such a decent back up.

Appreciate it's a game of opinions, but here are some facts.

#1 their goal came from Castagne not closing his man down and allowing the shot from range

#2 their disallowed goal happened because Castagne backed off from the halfway line about 20 yards, shirking the tackle when it was obvious a tactical foul was needed to deny a goal scoring opportunity

#3 the goal line clearance (which appears to be the basis for your praise) was only needed because castagne allowed Mitoma too much space (which dunk then spotted and exploited - albeit with a fantastic ball)

Unfortunately, Castagne leaving his man with too much space and misjudging crossfield balls is a repeat feature in his game.

One example came in this game itself. Early on, he allowed a ball to simply bounce off his head and go out for a corner.

Another occasion was Liverpool in the carabao cup semi final, where he allowed Diaz the freedom of the pitch and we were punished.

Or perhaps you recall palace in the quarter final? Where all 3 goals came from the left hand side and he was ruthlessly exposed?

Decent back up to you perhaps, unfortunately not for me

Agree totally, playing Castagne is like adding 20m to the pitch width for the attacking team

[nwg]

Anyone defending Castagne's ability to defend today is indefensible. Being on the goal line to head away BHA's goal #2 was entirely of his own shambolic making. Castange looked like he was carrying a bag of wet cement as that first ball lofted over his head and caught him completely out of position (again). Go back and watch the first fifteen minutes of the match and count the number of times he made a successful tackle, read a ball cleanly and dealt with said, and simply completed a pass to a player wearing white. In the span of ten minutes, he had three apologetic hand-raises for passes across the middle that, to the feet of better players, would have resulted in goals against.

It is beyond wonderful and incredible, frankly, that Fulham escaped with a miraculous win having played the first half with no wing backs...

I am truly concerned for Robinson, whose last two-plus matches have been inexplicably horrible. Marco did him a favor today leaving him on through 50 minutes today. Somehow, he has lost all ability to make a move with the ball against even one defender and track a long ball, and someone has to have the stat of how many stupid dive-ins he has made that have resulted in simply being burned and leaving himself out of position and leaving Cuenca to cover.

At one point today, something I never thought I would see, Robinson dived in, got scorched, and walked back to 'help out'. His body language said everything: "I do not know what I am doing." It is sad, and even though Sess was not great, anything was better than leaving AR on.

About Kevin: does anyone think that he watched any of the last 40 minutes and saw Chuk's activity and said to himself, "Ohhhhh...I get it."

[Bill2]

Has to be Harry not only his goal but as our best player, although to be fair that would not be difficult. But he never stopped working.

[Chi_FFC]

Also today showed that Sess is genuinely the better LB than AR and when partnered with Chuck is different level

Sess had an absolute stinker the other day and people said the opposite. As ever,this is reactionary talk. The biggest actual game changers were chuk and TC today.

Robinson's return coincided with a run of 6 unbeaten games against top sides, this whilst He's returning from knee surgery. Were lucky to have two good options but Robinson's been one of the best prem right backs the last 2 years. antonees form isn't at previous high levels just yet, as one might expect when coming back from injury, but Sess has alot to do to warrant such talk.

Sess was playing in RW last game?

True. But he was also very poor at LB two weeks ago against Championship side Middlesbrough.

[jayffc]

Also today showed that Sess is genuinely the better LB than AR and when partnered with Chuck is different level

Sess had an absolute stinker the other day and people said the opposite. As ever,this is reactionary talk. The biggest actual game changers were chuk and TC today.

Robinson's return coincided with a run of 6 unbeaten games against top sides, this whilst He's returning from knee surgery. Were lucky to have two good options but Robinson's been one of the best prem right backs the last 2 years. antonees form isn't at previous high levels just yet, as one might expect when coming back from injury, but Sess has alot to do to warrant such talk.

Sess was playing in RW last game?

Wasn't refering to the last game. But yes he also had a stinker then too. Other day wasn't particularly helpful, 'recently' perhaps more accurate, can't remember when but it prompted various posts the other way saying the clear difference between the two players in favour of robbo.

It swings back and forth. But sample size is important for me and as I say, last 2 years robbos been hard to top league wide let alone club wide. Hope he can continue with more and more minutes to refind the player we know he is when at full power

[jayffc]

Also today showed that Sess is genuinely the better LB than AR and when partnered with Chuck is different level

Sess had an absolute stinker the other day and people said the opposite. As ever,this is reactionary talk. The biggest actual game changers were chuk and TC today.

Robinson's return coincided with a run of 6 unbeaten games against top sides, this whilst He's returning from knee surgery. Were lucky to have two good options but Robinson's been one of the best prem right backs the last 2 years. antonees form isn't at previous high levels just yet, as one might expect when coming back from injury, but Sess has alot to do to warrant such talk.

Sess was playing in RW last game?

True. But he was also very poor at LB two weeks ago against Championship side Middlesbrough.

That was it

[demeant0r]

Also today showed that Sess is genuinely the better LB than AR and when partnered with Chuck is different level

Sess had an absolute stinker the other day and people said the opposite. As ever,this is reactionary talk. The biggest actual game changers were chuk and TC today.

Robinson's return coincided with a run of 6 unbeaten games against top sides, this whilst He's returning from knee surgery. Were lucky to have two good options but Robinson's been one of the best prem right backs the last 2 years. antonees form isn't at previous high levels just yet, as one might expect when coming back from injury, but Sess has alot to do to warrant such talk.

Sess was playing in RW last game?

True. But he was also very poor at LB two weeks ago against Championship side Middlesbrough.

To be fair, I think Boro will stay up next season if they get promoted.

Also today showed that Sess is genuinely the better LB than AR and when partnered with Chuck is different level

Sess had an absolute stinker the other day and people said the opposite. As ever,this is reactionary talk. The biggest actual game changers were chuk and TC today.

Robinson's return coincided with a run of 6 unbeaten games against top sides, this whilst He's returning from knee surgery. Were lucky to have two good options but Robinson's been one of the best prem right backs the last 2 years. antonees form isn't at previous high levels just yet, as one might expect when coming back from injury, but Sess has alot to do to warrant such talk.

Sess was playing in RW last game?

Wasn't refering to the last game. But yes he also had a stinker then too. Other day wasn't particularly helpful, 'recently' perhaps more accurate, can't remember when but it prompted various posts the other way saying the clear difference between the two players in favour of robbo.

It swings back and forth. But sample size is important for me and as I say, last 2 years robbos been hard to top league wide let alone club wide. Hope he can continue with more and more minutes to refind the player we know he is when at full power

Yeah, that's true. We have two inconsistent LBs right now, one match Jedi could be playing a blinder and another he's even worse than being invisible. Same as Sess. It's just the luck of the draw as to which Jedi/Sess we get on the day.

[Arthur]

Appreciate it's a game of opinions, but here are some facts...

Another occasion was Liverpool in the carabao cup semi final, where he allowed Diaz the freedom of the pitch and we were punished.

One sentence, you are telling me about today; the next, you've jumped back two years. I'm quite sure I could find a bad mistake for every one of our players in that time span.

And here's the irony: Despite you claiming it as a fact, post-match, I believe Marco said the fault lay with Tosin for not positioning himself correctly between Castange and Diop, which meant Timmy had to come in further from the touchline.

[Simply91]

What a relief, I'll take a win in whatever way it comes. Some feedback from the BHA board:

'I hate Fulham almost as much as Tottenham. Day light robbery. F*** VAR'

They were vocal in their chants giving it to us today. Wasn't sure if this was because I sat a lot closer to the away fans than usually, but they were giving it and getting under my skin.

Extra nice feeling with the win!

[ffcthereligion]

Appreciate it's a game of opinions, but here are some facts...

Another occasion was Liverpool in the carabao cup semi final, where he allowed Diaz the freedom of the pitch and we were punished.

One sentence, you are telling me about today; the next, you've jumped back two years. I'm quite sure I could find a bad mistake for every one of our players in that time span.

And here's the irony: Despite you claiming it as a fact, post-match, I believe Marco said the fault lay with Tosin for not positioning himself correctly between Castange and Diop, which meant Timmy had to come in further from the touchline.

I didn't claim that as a fact mate. #1-3 were facts 

[perry geyton]

Anderson & Chuckie for me

[SimonDaviesEnjoyer]

What a relief, I'll take a win in whatever way it comes. Some feedback from the BHA board:

'I hate Fulham almost as much as Tottenham. Day light robbery. F*** VAR'

They were vocal in their chants giving it to us today. Wasn't sure if this was because I sat a lot closer to the away fans than usually, but they were giving it and getting under my skin.

Extra nice feeling with the win!

Why do they hate us so much? Can't we all be friends?

[KJS]

Wastage had a poor game but you have to take into account that for 45 mins he was left to deal with Mitoma plus one everytime they attacked
The beauty was beating the time wasting cheating Seagulls and collecting 3 points

[demeant0r]

Wastage had a poor game but you have to take into account that for 45 mins he was left to deal with Mitoma plus one everytime they attacked
The beauty was beating the time wasting cheating Seagulls and collecting 3 points

Ah now, we also time waste. Do you not remember all the hijinx involving TC running to the corner flag?

[LittleErn]

Castagne. Kept us in the match with clearances off the line. Different sort of player to Tete but we're fortunate to have such a decent back up.

Appreciate it's a game of opinions, but here are some facts.

#1 their goal came from Castagne not closing his man down and allowing the shot from range

#2 their disallowed goal happened because Castagne backed off from the halfway line about 20 yards, shirking the tackle when it was obvious a tactical foul was needed to deny a goal scoring opportunity

#3 the goal line clearance (which appears to be the basis for your praise) was only needed because castagne allowed Mitoma too much space (which dunk then spotted and exploited - albeit with a fantastic ball)

Unfortunately, Castagne leaving his man with too much space and misjudging crossfield balls is a repeat feature in his game.

One example came in this game itself. Early on, he allowed a ball to simply bounce off his head and go out for a corner.

Another occasion was Liverpool in the carabao cup semi final, where he allowed Diaz the freedom of the pitch and we were punished.

Or perhaps you recall palace in the quarter final? Where all 3 goals came from the left hand side and he was ruthlessly exposed?

Decent back up to you perhaps, unfortunately not for me

I thought it was Berge that should have closed the Brighton scorer down. He was certainly the closest.