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NFR... Is Messi That Good Really ?

Started by Steeeeeeeeeed, June 22, 2026, 11:31:09 PM

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Steeeeeeeeeed

Yes he now has 18 World Cup Goals, but thats over 6 World Cups, so only an average of 3 per World Cup.

Also, he hasn't got ANY assists yet this world Cup.

😎😊


bencher

Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on June 22, 2026, 11:31:09 PMYes he now has 18 World Cup Goals, but thats over 6 World Cups, so only an average of 3 per World Cup.

Also, he hasn't got ANY assists yet this world Cup.

😎😊



True, the greedy bugger keeps putting them in the onion bag himself

gang



Chesh

Yes, the best ever in my opinion.

He's scored 12 of those 18 since he turned 35 i.e. ever since he had a decent team around him.

He's been lighting up the domestic and world stage consistently for nearly 22 years now and looks as spritely as he ever did at age 39 in 2 days.
Made in Hammersmith (1968)

HobGoblin

Best player I've ever seen, miles better than the Portuguese primadonna.

Scoring 5 goals in two games at any age is a remarkable feat, doing it at 38 is very impressive.

Eton White

Fantastic player who just seems to be getting better the older he gets.


Coastwalker

Why would you have to ask that question.

Holders

It was interesting when they showed the table which showed that Gerd Mueller's ratio was far better:  14 goals from 13 tournament matches.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

SuperFreeman

Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on June 22, 2026, 11:31:09 PMYes he now has 18 World Cup Goals, but thats over 6 World Cups, so only an average of 3 per World Cup.

Also, he hasn't got ANY assists yet this world Cup.

😎😊

Are you suggesting he's not very good or was that tongue in cheek?? The World Cup is only staged every FOUR years and so the player ages and with that, traditionally loses some speed, pace, positioning and shooting skills and general eye for goal. But NOT Messi. He's now 38 and still has it all. Genetically, like Ronaldo, Lionel Messi is a footballing miracle. His penalty against Austria wasn't very clever, but he made up for that with two terrific goals.

Messi is a phenomenon. Just to remind you of some of his achievements in a career, to date, which has earnt him 47 trophies.

Ballon d'Or

8

La Liga Player of the Year

9

European Golden Shoe

6

Laureus World Sports Award

2

World Cup Golden Ball/MVP

2

UEFA Men's Player of the Year

2

Copa América Most Valuable Player

2

Landon Donovan MLS MVP

1

Most Goals for Barcelona

672

Most Trophies Won at Barcelona

35

Most Games Played for Barcelona

778

Most Goals for Club and Country in a Year

91 (2012)

Most Goals for Inter Miami

77

Most Goals for Argentina

115



Jamie88

Quote from: SuperFreeman on June 24, 2026, 04:20:11 AM
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on June 22, 2026, 11:31:09 PMYes he now has 18 World Cup Goals, but thats over 6 World Cups, so only an average of 3 per World Cup.

Also, he hasn't got ANY assists yet this world Cup.

😎😊

Are you suggesting he's not very good or was that tongue in cheek?? The World Cup is only staged every FOUR years and so the player ages and with that, traditionally loses some speed, pace, positioning and shooting skills and general eye for goal. But NOT Messi. He's now 38 and still has it all. Genetically, like Ronaldo, Lionel Messi is a footballing miracle. His penalty against Austria wasn't very clever, but he made up for that with two terrific goals.

Messi is a phenomenon. Just to remind you of some of his achievements in a career, to date, which has earnt him 47 trophies.

Ballon d'Or

8

La Liga Player of the Year

9

European Golden Shoe

6

Laureus World Sports Award

2

World Cup Golden Ball/MVP

2

UEFA Men's Player of the Year

2

Copa América Most Valuable Player

2

Landon Donovan MLS MVP

1

Most Goals for Barcelona

672

Most Trophies Won at Barcelona

35

Most Games Played for Barcelona

778

Most Goals for Club and Country in a Year

91 (2012)

Most Goals for Inter Miami

77

Most Goals for Argentina

115



Yeah but I bet he can't do it on a rainy Tuesday night in Stoke.

Marcus

Probably the best the world has ever seen - certainly better than Ronaldo.



alfie

Quote from: Marcus on June 24, 2026, 08:11:28 AMProbably the best the world has ever seen - certainly better than Ronaldo.
My opinion Ronaldinho is the best I have seen, always played with a smile.
Story of my life
"I was looking back to see if she was looking back to see if i was looking back at her"
Sadly she wasn't

WindyCity

You just can't argue against the results.

Buffalo76

Quote from: alfie on June 24, 2026, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: Marcus on June 24, 2026, 08:11:28 AMProbably the best the world has ever seen - certainly better than Ronaldo.
My opinion Ronaldinho is the best I have seen, always played with a smile.




With those teeth his mouth never stood a chance!


bahay18

He is incredible . He has also adapted his game since he lost that electric pace . Now links the play much deeper and then arrives late on the edge of the box and picks up the scraps . Much like Kane is trying to do actually but not quite as well

Angus Telford

Quote from: Jamie88 on June 24, 2026, 07:32:06 AMYeah but I bet he can't do it on a rainy Tuesday night in Stoke.

But in all seriousness, this!
I don't care about the last few twilight years, in their prime, Ronaldo was smashing it in the roughest, toughest, fastest and best league in the world, whilst Messi was playing in 9-0 romps over lower La Liga teams that were League One standard. Also reckon La Liga is overweighted in Ballon D'or judging. Sorry but it will always be CR7 for me, he had everything whereas Messi is just great at dribbling.