Why are some of you on here so snide about the Dempsey situation

[mccscratch]

that you would say something as ridiculous as Dempsey accepting an offer from West Ham? I have seen it from several posters and I keep thinking... surely you are not that ignorant?

If Clint and the club do not get an offer from a top 6 side or another CL caliber team from the Continent... he is not taking the move and will see out his contract...

Clint has been very clear about his desire to play at the highest levels of the game to fulfill his personal goals and never has mentioned anything about his weekly wages... EVER... West Ham could only potentially offer higher wages and nothing more... there is not a chance in HADES that he would go there so please stop with the baiting snotty comments about it...(each of you know who you are)

[Bassey the warrior]

I'm not so sure. There's a lot of friction between him and Jol. If West Ham can convince him of its 'ambition' he might make the move.

[mccscratch]

I'm not so sure. There's a lot of friction between him and Jol. If West Ham can convince him of its 'ambition' he might make the move.

I would stake my entire closet of football shirts on it... I am so confident that this would never happen...

[Fulham Far East]

I rather see him stay. With the line up that we have now, Demps could still be a positive player in our squad. I dont think Kaca can last the whole season, we need someone to help him in that position

[mccscratch]

I rather see him stay. With the line up that we have now, Demps could still be a positive player in our squad. I dont think Kaca can last the whole season, we need someone to help him in that position

I recognize that some of you are very offended by the thought of Clint supposedly going on strike (I was livid) but we all saw Jol back track a quite a bit the very next day... it seems quite certain that Jol wants him to play for us again if no serious offers come in... Anyone that thinks an unsold Clint past Sept 1 is not immediately back into our starting XI once fit again is fooling themselves...

This situation is exactly the same as Mark Schwarzer's Arsenal demand and the moment he was still here past the window he played... it will be the same with Clint... I love Kaca too but he is nowhere near Clint in ability right now.

Also let me head this off before I see people claim it... Yes Kaca plays a little wider and Martin has a tendency to prefer wider wingers... but if you watch all of our goals and good scoring chances... they all came through the middle (other than the corner Petric scored on)... where we played lovely combo football in the middle of the park and only occasionally with Riise providing overlapping width so don't come on here spouting delusions of grandeur about Kaca sending in by line cross after cross... Clint will replace him if he stays.

[HatterDon]

got to take a breath, macc. You don't need to fight all these guys about everything said about Deuce. What's going to happen will happen and haters gonna hate. Everytime I get a bit riled about how players are treated on this board and others, I remember what somebody posted on here a while back. He said that two guys who sit near him would spend 90 minutes ripping Murphy apart, saying that he was rubbish, a hasbeen, and a waste of money. This from his first match with us to his last.

You can't reason with people like that. You just wear yourself out trying.

Now, I'm going to go and give the same speech to the guy in the mirror.

[JBH]

I hope Clint stays but if he goes to West Ham/Sunderland (which is highly unlikely) he will show that his move has nothing to do with his ambition to play at the highest level possible  :028:

[GloucesterWhite]

Clint has always said he wants to play for a club that quailfies for the Champoins League. Yet he appears to want to go to Liverpool. If Clint thinks that the Pool will finish in the top 4 during his remaining playing career he is seriously deluded.

[Edwatch_Winston_Malone]

Not sure why he is getting so much flack.  He is just another selfish, greedy footballer that overrates his own ability and worth.  Nothing new there, we have seen a few of them come and go and I dare say we will see a few more...

[JBH]

On another note, Clint Tweeted that there are 2 sides to every story and the truth will come out shortly.

Well Clint we are still waiting! Haven't you and your agent been able to create a story yet atferall its not like you have anything else to do at the moment :028:

[west kowloon white]

Playing at the highest level may equate to playing at highest salary.
Whether being ill advised by his agent(anxious for is cut of business being done)Mr Dempsey is little better than the scumbag Tevez in his antics.
He is under contract-end of story-Schwartzer did not follow same path.

[MasterHaynes]

that you would say something as ridiculous as Dempsey accepting an offer from West Ham? I have seen it from several posters and I keep thinking... surely you are not that ignorant?

If Clint and the club do not get an offer from a top 6 side or another CL caliber team from the Continent... he is not taking the move and will see out his contract...

Clint has been very clear about his desire to play at the highest levels of the game to fulfill his personal goals and never has mentioned anything about his weekly wages... EVER... West Ham could only potentially offer higher wages and nothing more... there is not a chance in HADES that he would go there so please stop with the baiting snotty comments about it...(each of you know who you are)

Liverpool are also not going to be either a CL or top six club during the remainder of Dempseys career, and probably not in Europe after this season so whats the difference? their both 'Big clubs' if as the media suggests its based on following yet Clint has professed he wants to play for them.

[epsomraver]

that you would say something as ridiculous as Dempsey accepting an offer from West Ham? I have seen it from several posters and I keep thinking... surely you are not that ignorant?

If Clint and the club do not get an offer from a top 6 side or another CL caliber team from the Continent... he is not taking the move and will see out his contract...

Clint has been very clear about his desire to play at the highest levels of the game to fulfill his personal goals and never has mentioned anything about his weekly wages... EVER... West Ham could only potentially offer higher wages and nothing more... there is not a chance in HADES that he would go there so please stop with the baiting snotty comments about it...(each of you know who you are)

Liverpool are also not going to be either a CL or top six club during the remainder of Dempseys career, and probably not in Europe after this season so whats the difference? their both 'Big clubs' if as the media suggests its based on following yet Clint has professed he wants to play for them.

Perhaps we can see the light which you cannot because you stuck so far up Dempseys butt?

[ClarksOriginal]

I'm not so sure. There's a lot of friction between him and Jol. If West Ham can convince him of its 'ambition' he might make the move.

I would stake my entire closet of football shirts on it... I am so confident that this would never happen...

Can't help but agree with MccScratch on this one...
I'd also bet heavily against him joining the Spam.

I also don't think that there is a much tension there as we are led to believe.

Poking fun at Dempsey is all just fun for instance I tweeted '0% - Clint Dempsey has had no influence on any of Fulham's goals this season. Refusal' for a laugh. But when a person suddenly turns upon a player who plays for the club he loves, it doesn't sit well with me either.

[Rupert]

I really think the whole thing stems from that article Dempsey penned last season, where he revealed that he was a life-long Fulham fan, who had been brought up on stories of Haynes and Mullery, who spent his youth going to the Cottage to be inspired by greats such as Jim Hicks, Stacey North and his boyhood hero, Cliffy Carr, who worked his way through the US college system with the single-minded aim of one day pulling on the white shirt of FFC and who had now fulfilled his life's ambition and was going to stay with us until he retired. Also, his wife is hot.
And we supporters, fools that we are, believed him.

Well, no more.

I can, in fact, reveal that Duplicity Dempsey is actually an American! Yes, he hails from Texas, USA, not Findlay Street, SW6 like we all believed. Worse than that, he only came to Fulham to further his career, so it was not because he loved the club and would have willingly paid to play for us. That shrine we created, in the Riverside Stand, block X, row 6, seat 42? Demolish it! Dempsey never sat there at all in his youth. He hadn't even heard of us until Brian McBride joined us, in common with all US citizens other than HatterDon and Ridgerider.

No, the man is a fake, a fraud, a charlatan and we, the fans, are absolutely justified to be outraged by this, and Dempsey deserves all the approbrium we can heap upon him.

However, his wife really is hot.

[craig10]

[quote author=The Moose link=topic=23995.msg296855#msg296855 date
I'm not so sure. There's a lot of friction between him and Jol. If West Ham can convince him of its 'ambition' he might make the move.

I would stake my entire closet of football shirts on it... I am so confident that this would never happen...

Can't help but agree with MccScratch on this one...
I'd also bet heavily against him joining the Spam.

I also don't think that there is a much tension there as we are led to believe.

Poking fun at Dempsey is all just fun for instance I tweeted '0% - Clint Dempsey has had no influence on any of Fulham's goals this season. Refusal' for a laugh. But when a person suddenly turns upon a player who plays for the club he loves, it doesn't sit well with me either.
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What abou a player that turns on his club?? (allegedly)  :hook:

[ClarksOriginal]

[quote author=The Moose link=topic=23995.msg296855#msg296855 date
I'm not so sure. There's a lot of friction between him and Jol. If West Ham can convince him of its 'ambition' he might make the move.

I would stake my entire closet of football shirts on it... I am so confident that this would never happen...

Can't help but agree with MccScratch on this one...
I'd also bet heavily against him joining the Spam.

I also don't think that there is a much tension there as we are led to believe.

Poking fun at Dempsey is all just fun for instance I tweeted '0% - Clint Dempsey has had no influence on any of Fulham's goals this season. Refusal' for a laugh. But when a person suddenly turns upon a player who plays for the club he loves, it doesn't sit well with me either.

What abou a player that turns on his club?? (allegedly)  :hook:
[/quote]

Well, see above. Don't think there is as much tension/betrayal as we are led to believe.

If a player wants to leave a club, why would you play him? He's not going to give 100% like every other player out there is. Just a common sense decision from Jol in my opinion.

Also keeps Dempsey injury free for any potential move.

Should he not move on before September 1st, he should guarantee us 100% commitment and move on in Jan/Summer.

[alfie]

I rather see him stay. With the line up that we have now, Demps could still be a positive player in our squad. I dont think Kaca can last the whole season, we need someone to help him in that position

i am sorry, but why do you think Kaca cannot last a whole season.

[craig10]

[quote author=The Moose link=topic=23995.msg296855#msg296855 date
I'm not so sure. There's a lot of friction between him and Jol. If West Ham can convince him of its 'ambition' he might make the move.

I would stake my entire closet of football shirts on it... I am so confident that this would never happen...

Can't help but agree with MccScratch on this one...
I'd also bet heavily against him joining the Spam.

I also don't think that there is a much tension there as we are led to believe.

Poking fun at Dempsey is all just fun for instance I tweeted '0% - Clint Dempsey has had no influence on any of Fulham's goals this season. Refusal' for a laugh. But when a person suddenly turns upon a player who plays for the club he loves, it doesn't sit well with me either.

What abou a player that turns on his club?? (allegedly)  :hook:

Well, see above. Don't think there is as much tension/betrayal as we are led to believe.

If a player wants to leave a club, why would you play him? He's not going to give 100% like every other player out there is. Just a common sense decision from Jol in my opinion.

Also keeps Dempsey injury free for any potential move.

Should he not move on before September 1st, he should guarantee us 100% commitment and move on in Jan/Summer.
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Agree 100% not play him but to refuse is a poor move I feel and turning on ur team and team mates...
I am happy for him to leave and after seeing the game saturday feel we have brought in better attacking players and he perhaps holds others back being in the team. The 1 player I don't wanna see go is Dembele, that being said if they do both stay I would like to see both sign a contract so the team that has put them in the position they are in can get a reward for doing so by still gettin a (decent) fee in jan or better yet next summer

[ClarksOriginal]

[quote author=The Moose link=topic=23995.msg296855#msg296855 date
I'm not so sure. There's a lot of friction between him and Jol. If West Ham can convince him of its 'ambition' he might make the move.

I would stake my entire closet of football shirts on it... I am so confident that this would never happen...

Can't help but agree with MccScratch on this one...
I'd also bet heavily against him joining the Spam.

I also don't think that there is a much tension there as we are led to believe.

Poking fun at Dempsey is all just fun for instance I tweeted '0% - Clint Dempsey has had no influence on any of Fulham's goals this season. Refusal' for a laugh. But when a person suddenly turns upon a player who plays for the club he loves, it doesn't sit well with me either.

What abou a player that turns on his club?? (allegedly)  :hook:

Well, see above. Don't think there is as much tension/betrayal as we are led to believe.

If a player wants to leave a club, why would you play him? He's not going to give 100% like every other player out there is. Just a common sense decision from Jol in my opinion.

Also keeps Dempsey injury free for any potential move.

Should he not move on before September 1st, he should guarantee us 100% commitment and move on in Jan/Summer.

Agree 100% not play him but to refuse is a poor move I feel and turning on ur team and team mates...
I am happy for him to leave and after seeing the game saturday feel we have brought in better attacking players and he perhaps holds others back being in the team. The 1 player I don't wanna see go is Dembele, that being said if they do both stay I would like to see both sign a contract so the team that has put them in the position they are in can get a reward for doing so by still gettin a (decent) fee in jan or better yet next summer
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That's the thing though.... I don't think he's refused to play. I think he's told Jol he wants to move on and Jol hasn't played him on that basis alone. Which is a good move.

I'd rather keep Dembele. Think he has much more to offer in the short and long term.