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Trotta scores again for Brentford - Merged

Started by Mr-ska, February 12, 2013, 11:23:57 PM

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cmg


It might be worth considering that young Mr Trotta is, presumably, receiving Div 1 quality service (admittedly against Div 1 quality defending). Given that a striker, perhaps more than anybody, is reliant on the service he gets, perhaps he might do (even) better with Premier League quality service?

Matt

Oh you lucky people, we're the best team in the land!

Deanothefulhamfan

My brentford mates rate him really highly and think he should be starting more regularly... But he is doing his job when called upon.... I am a massive fan of bringing through the youngsters at any club, but at Fulham we never seem to do that. Briggs is a squad player but thats it.... Frei another squad player when fit.... Would love to see Trotta make it but I think if he was that good we would have seen more from him by now


TonyGilroy


Scoring goals gets easier the lower down the leagues a player goes.

Stepping up means playing against better defenders, having less space and with coaches having worked out how the goals are scored and how to prevent them.

I'm assuming everyone recognises that as obvious.

Trotta is young and may well still improve but so far we know that he's reasonably good at League 1 level but failed to convince at Watford at Championship level.

We talk about players going out on loan as if we only have to send them somewhere. The truth is that they need a club to want them.

What Trotta needs next season is a loan spell at Championship level to see how he does but that means finding a Championship manager who sees him as being good enough.

To me it seems dumb to simply demand that Jol play him on the basis that he's young and might succeed. We wouldn't be understanding if Jol did that and Trotta turned out to be out of his depth.

FFC1987

Stating you're sitting in the corner working over the logic of an argument that never occurred is rather silly isn't it? No one (from my knowledge/glance) has said 'because he is scoring in league 1 that makes him not good enough for EPL'. If there is a quote saying such, we should all ridicule that person (calm down Mods i'm not talking literally) but I couldn't find one. The staff at FFC signed Trotta for the long run. If we brought him back now he wouldn't get in front of our current strikers so allowing him to play is great for the kid, and for the club. He would sit on the bench and rot if we didn't give him this opportunity. What I find amusing is the general consensus for Kasami and Stockdale is, if he's not playing, he needs games yet Trotta who is regulary allowed out on loan and playing, people think we need back. He's not ready and is finding his feet at first team level and looks to me as if he's progressing. Calling him back now will just do what happened to Stockdale. 

fulhaman

I have seen trotter in a Fulham shirt a few times and really rate him. Think he could be a goal scoring machine in a few years.


HatterDon

Quote from: TonyGilroy on February 14, 2013, 11:54:40 AM

Scoring goals gets easier the lower down the leagues a player goes.

Stepping up means playing against better defenders, having less space and with coaches having worked out how the goals are scored and how to prevent them.

I'm assuming everyone recognises that as obvious.

Trotta is young and may well still improve but so far we know that he's reasonably good at League 1 level but failed to convince at Watford at Championship level.

We talk about players going out on loan as if we only have to send them somewhere. The truth is that they need a club to want them.

What Trotta needs next season is a loan spell at Championship level to see how he does but that means finding a Championship manager who sees him as being good enough.

To me it seems dumb to simply demand that Jol play him on the basis that he's young and might succeed. We wouldn't be understanding if Jol did that and Trotta turned out to be out of his depth.

A soon as he got to Watford, the manager made a decision to go with his own younger players regardless of result -- a laudable decision, but not one in Fulham's or Trotta's best interest. I think it's unfair to categorize his time at Watford as a failure.
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TonyGilroy


Rightly or wrongly the Watford manager preferred to use his own players.

I didn't use the word "failure" but Trotta certainly failed to impress the Watford manager. He needs another chance at that level but that means finding a manager willing to use him.

Wanting our young players to succeed doesn't make it so.

EJL