Merged threads: Appointment of Felix Magath

[YoungsBitter]

Well, I mean...  even if that's the case, it's not JUST the United and Liverpool games, it's also Southampton and Sheff Utd and Sunderland and Hull.
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Thats the truth, after Sheffield United Khan must have decided thats it, and it has taken this last two weeks to get it done, they didn't expect anything from last two games but wanted 7 days before WBA.
So my gut is RM was gone unless we managed to win both and that was never going too happen.
I like the guy as a talking head but he didn't seem to have a clue as Manager, the terrible subs, the team rotation seemed like a crap shoot, bringing in Butch and Curbs etc.
Agree this is a ballsy move but WTF, can't be worse than what we produced against Saints and Blades

[Putney]

Actually, Ranieri got him up to speed. He ran his socks off and scored the winner two days ago. Ranieri said his physical condition wasn't the best when he first came to them

Just asked my mate from Monaco who went to that game how Berbatov played...

'Awful', 'didn't run', 'no motivation', 'the berba you know i guess?'

[Steven Ageroad]

Many fans a few games ago, stating that the players were not earning their fat pay cheques, now sounds like a manager that will get them working for their money.
Sorry for Rene though, "wrong place, wrong time"
Keep the faith, we are Fulham FC.

[Blanco]

I think people(including myself) overrated Rene because of his personality and great speeches. Lets look at the stats...

Since Rene took over we have played 15 Premier League games and won 4 of them and draw 2. Thats a 60% loss rate & 14 points out of a possible 45. With losses against teams like Hull & Sunderland. Not just losses though, thrashings. We lost 4-1 against Everton. 2-4 against Man City. 6-0 against Hull. 1-4 against Sunderland and 0-3 against Southampton. The only time we didn't concede under Rene were against Aston Villa & Norwich. We have conceded at least 2 goals in 67% of the games under Rene.

Let's not forget the two tragic performances against Sheffield in the cup.

It was starting to look better but I'm not convinced he could have kept us up. I'm just hoping this new bloke can.

[Julius Geezer]

Another quote.

until one plays under Magath, they have no idea what torture actually is.

[Wingnut]

This will be the final nail in our coffin or a Man City away-seque game changer for us.

Really liked Rene, top man but i'm hoping Felix is as ruthless as Rene is amiable. I get the impression that Felix is a tough cookie.

Edit: The quote in the post above backs up my impression of Felix.

[LBNo11]

...what I don't understand is that Rene needed more time, and it wasn't his fault as to why the club stuck by jol and didn't appoint him earlier. At the very least keep Rene for the long term build as coach and bring in Felix as manager rather than appointing Curbishley and the crab. Felix will be here for the short term, and he should have been paired with Rene to teach him the managerial ropes for the future...

[YoungsBitter]

I think people(including myself) overrated Rene because of his personality and great speeches. Lets look at the stats...

Since Rene took over we have played 15 Premier League games and won 4 of them and draw 2. Thats a 60% loss rate & 14 points out of a possible 45. With losses against teams like Hull & Sunderland. Not just losses though, thrashings. We lost 4-1 against Everton. 2-4 against Man City. 6-0 against Hull. 1-4 against Sunderland and 0-3 against Southampton. The only time we didn't concede under Rene were against Aston Villa & Norwich. We have conceded at least 2 goals in 67% of the games under Rene.

Let's not forget the two tragic performances against Sheffield in the cup.

It was starting to look better but I'm not convinced he could have kept us up. I'm just hoping this new bloke can.

That is bang on.
If you are Khan watching that, at the same time that Pulis and Fat Sam have been doing wonders with **** squads at Palace and Wet Spam no wonder you would pull the trigger

[Danitar]

Looking at this I'm quite pleased with the appointment as this is a guy that doesn't take rubbish and has fitness and discipline as his back bone which is good as our team has been getting away with not being fit enough to last 90 minutes. Also this guyight take a training session that might involve practising set pieces which both jol and Rene haven't really got to grips with. I liked Rene but you have to admit the results weren't getting that much better

[nose]

I think people(including myself) overrated Rene because of his personality and great speeches. Lets look at the stats...

Since Rene took over we have played 15 Premier League games and won 4 of them and draw 2. Thats a 60% loss rate & 14 points out of a possible 45. With losses against teams like Hull & Sunderland. Not just losses though, thrashings. We lost 4-1 against Everton. 2-4 against Man City. 6-0 against Hull. 1-4 against Sunderland and 0-3 against Southampton. The only time we didn't concede under Rene were against Aston Villa & Norwich. We have conceded at least 2 goals in 67% of the games under Rene.

Let's not forget the two tragic performances against Sheffield in the cup.

It was starting to look better but I'm not convinced he could have kept us up. I'm just hoping this new bloke can.

you should check roy's stats they were hopeless for ages, didn't it take 8 games for the first win.... hardly brilliant stuff, it came together at the end... that is what would have happened here (I think).

[LillieBoy]

...what I don't understand is that Rene needed more time, and it wasn't his fault as to why the club stuck by jol and didn't appoint him earlier. At the very least keep Rene for the long term build as coach and bring in Felix as manager rather than appointing Curbishley and the crab. Felix will be here for the short term, and he should have been paired with Rene to teach him the managerial ropes for the future...

Absolutely what I was thinking. Will Mags want his own team though?

Are the two of them too different?  It's worked in the past eg Clough/Taylor and RM with Ferguson... 078.gif

[Fulham1959]

I am shocked and disgusted.

It's rare that I get to see Fulham but bought WBA ticket this afternoon.  Now I wish I hadn't.

[EJL]

I don't have much to say - The Valentine's Day Massacre is about right...

I don't agree with sacking Rene, but I can understand the reasoning behind the club's decision to do so. The stats are all there: the embarrassing thrashings, the dreadful defensive record and simply not having enough points. But you can't axe him now, you just can't.

[YoungsBitter]

So with the benefit of Wiki it seems Magath has form with 3 of our squad - Wolfsburg with Riether and Dejegah, Schalke with Holtby ( but he didn't play much as Magath had signed big stars like Raul - and he went out on loan and while out Felix got fired). The Scandinavians and Dutch contingent all speak German, as do Kasami, Zverotic, Boateng and Mitroglou. I wonder tho how the English lads will do...

[filham]

OK it is a results business and Rene certainly hasn't been getting results. Even the last two close encounters against top teams, if looked at coldly and analytically, were not good performance but were just gutsy showings with every one giving there maximum effort in defence, we rarely threatened our opponents goal. More would have been needed in the remaining games to bring home the points we now need,

However it was beginning to look that we were going down with a fight, now with a new manager at this late stage there has to be extreme doubt as to how on earth he can immediately select the right players , inject the right spirit and adopt the right tactics.

Relegation looks an absolute certainty.

Rene has failed in a very short time which begs the question who is taking the can back for his appointment.

[DeuceBigelow]

 :plus one:

...what I don't understand is that Rene needed more time, and it wasn't his fault as to why the club stuck by jol and didn't appoint him earlier. At the very least keep Rene for the long term build as coach and bring in Felix as manager rather than appointing Curbishley and the crab. Felix will be here for the short term, and he should have been paired with Rene to teach him the managerial ropes for the future...

[jmh]

So with the benefit of Wiki it seems Magath has form with 3 of our squad - Wolfsburg with Riether and Dejegah, Schalke with Holtby ( but he didn't play much as Magath had signed big stars like Raul - and he went out on loan and while out Felix got fired). The Scandinavians and Dutch contingent all speak German, as do Kasami, Zverotic, Boateng and Mitroglou. I wonder tho how the English lads will do...

I believe Magath speaks English.  It's third-hand, but this thread on the BigSoccer website discussing the possibility that Magath might manage the USA quotes an interview with him from his time at Schalke where he says:

Q : Is there a particular league that would interest you more - the premier league, the serie a, la liga?
A : language is always a limiting factor. English is the only foreign language I've learned so I think clubs in Italy or Spain might think twice before think a manager like me. So I think right now - the English league would be the option for me.

Unfortunately, the site that did the interview no longer exists so I can't really track it back any further.

[ron]

He wasn't sacked - he walked away.

.....Now there's a cue for a song if ever there was one......

[KP_FFC]

im quite excited with Magath's arrival. he's been successful at taking teams in our position and helping them survive and has also won titles.

[FFCSteve]

This is an absolute joke!

Rene inherited an ageing squad, made lazy with Jol,s laid back style of management.

Don't forget we had to play the old lazy side against Sheffield!

He has a decent winter transfer. Started using some of our decent young players. Got a point out of UTD. could have been a win!
Played well against Liverpool. Should have got a point.

I was just allowing myself the thought there may just be a crack of light & BAM! This.

Now we have to bed in a new manager. The team must adapt again to another management style.

We are going down!