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The Official Next Manager Discussion Thread

Started by Rhys Lightning 63, November 07, 2015, 04:14:56 PM

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mike_corkcity12

Quote from: snarks on November 14, 2015, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 14, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Rigg's lack of decisiveness in the summer has cost us big time.

Please tell me why? Is he the new management scapegoat? How do you know this? I can only presume that you were in the offices all over the summer and shadowing Rigg as he mulled over the decions to buy or not to buy players and what other steps to make, and failed to do anything at all.

Rigg says that he and Kit sat down in the summer and talked about "when the divorce comes". Rigg knew in his heart of hearts that Symons was not good enough but lacked the gumption and temerity to fire him. This has cost us another season.


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Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 16, 2015, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: snarks on November 14, 2015, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 14, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Rigg's lack of decisiveness in the summer has cost us big time.

Please tell me why? Is he the new management scapegoat? How do you know this? I can only presume that you were in the offices all over the summer and shadowing Rigg as he mulled over the decions to buy or not to buy players and what other steps to make, and failed to do anything at all.

Rigg says that he and Kit sat down in the summer and talked about "when the divorce comes". Rigg knew in his heart of hearts that Symons was not good enough but lacked the gumption and temerity to fire him. This has cost us another season.
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west kowloon white

Strange to not care and not know who Roy was from someone so enlightened.
Be good to end the the vilification of the vile
But doubt PC Pickle and eternal whinge will be satisfied whatever.


ToodlesMcToot

Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 16, 2015, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: snarks on November 14, 2015, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 14, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Rigg's lack of decisiveness in the summer has cost us big time.

Please tell me why? Is he the new management scapegoat? How do you know this? I can only presume that you were in the offices all over the summer and shadowing Rigg as he mulled over the decions to buy or not to buy players and what other steps to make, and failed to do anything at all.

Rigg says that he and Kit sat down in the summer and talked about "when the divorce comes". Rigg knew in his heart of hearts that Symons was not good enough but lacked the gumption and temerity to fire him. This has cost us another season.



Not really sure what Rigg could have done last season. Kit had just completed a season recovery that had never been done before. Rigg himself pointed this out when he came to the team. Being new, himself, in the job, he may not have had the ability to sack Kit at the time even if what you presume (Rigg didn't believe in Kit) is actually true. With the benefit of hindsight informing observation, your presumption sure does fit with the seeming lack of comfort that Kit, and to an extend Ali Mac, had in the "Big Three" interview. Just a thought.
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westcliff white

doesn't look like it will happen but from an FFC point of view would be good if the ROI lose  so we casn see if Martin O'neil could be tempted.
Every day is a Fulham day

mike_corkcity12

For instance I really don't think that when Rigg sits down with 'his' man that he will immediately be talking about a "divorce", do you?

O'Neill would be an awful choice.

The head coach structure makes sense to me. Let the head coach focus on first team performances, results and developing individual skillsets/performances. What football coach wouldn't want that? Instead of wasting time trying to set up the academy etc, he focuses solely on the first team.


Jem

Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:59:17 PM
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:17:17 PM
Lee clarke  sideways everytime  anybody see him make a forward pass ?
Forward pass anybody ? Thought not
Thinking obviously not your strong suit.
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#787
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 16, 2015, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: snarks on November 14, 2015, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 14, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Rigg's lack of decisiveness in the summer has cost us big time.

Please tell me why? Is he the new management scapegoat? How do you know this? I can only presume that you were in the offices all over the summer and shadowing Rigg as he mulled over the decions to buy or not to buy players and what other steps to make, and failed to do anything at all.

Rigg says that he and Kit sat down in the summer and talked about "when the divorce comes". Rigg knew in his heart of hearts that Symons was not good enough but lacked the gumption and temerity to fire him. This has cost us another season.

Rigg probably felt that he had not been in the job long enough to give a fair assessment of Symons particularly as the existing squad had contributed significantly to the club's demise and they both knew that there would be a major overhaul of players.

Additionally, I think he had this rather unusual conversation because he did not recruit Symons and Symons has given long service to the club. I don't think an outsider will be part of a similar conversation.

westcliff white

O'neil would be no more awful than Pearson, Curbs, Sherwood etc
Every day is a Fulham day


mike_corkcity12

Quote from: westcliff white on November 16, 2015, 08:39:39 PM
O'neil would be no more awful than Pearson, Curbs, Sherwood etc
Pearson developed players at Leicester and got results.

O'Neill has no track record of improving players (he buys a lot). His tactic (he only has one) is more or less obsolete. 442. Knock it in the box.

Pearson or Jokavonic are the two we should choose from. It would be embarrassing to go after Warburton, especially since he was free in the summer. Rigg won't do it.

westcliff white

For me Pearson is on a level with Harry and Warnock
Every day is a Fulham day

mike_corkcity12



westcliff white

ach to there own that's why we all have opinions and why we express them on the forum

personally for me I find his attitude and personality terrible
Every day is a Fulham day

BigbadBillyMcKinley

Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 05:03:45 PM
Lee clarke ? No thanks rubbish player rubbish manager  makes Ray wilkins look good
I'm a rubbish player, but I really wish I could play over 170 times for fulham. 

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Wingnut

Take O'Neill off the list. The republic are 2-0 tonight and on their way to France.
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.


Jem

Quote from: west kowloon white on November 16, 2015, 07:09:49 PM
Not a serious candidate surely- just a comment for PC pickle .
He was interviewed on Talksport about another matter but was asked if he would be interested in the Fulham job. He said he would love the job as he thought Fulham was a fantastic club but pointed out that there were several candidates with much more experience that would be well ahead of him. He was actually very humble.
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HV71

Rowatt has proved to be much better at Birmingham. Forget sentiment - go for someone with a successful management record

J.Perkins

Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:59:17 PM
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:17:17 PM
Lee clarke  sideways everytime  anybody see him make a forward pass ?
Forward pass anybody ? Thought not

You clearly have no knowledge of football. Please use this link http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?action=logout;sesc=615bc9123298bdc0f6da52cf9b4d6410


Riverside

Yep . No O Neill .
Pity

Now we need to move forward .


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BigbadBillyMcKinley

Quote from: J.Perkins on November 16, 2015, 09:33:44 PM
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:59:17 PM
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:17:17 PM
Lee clarke  sideways everytime  anybody see him make a forward pass ?
Forward pass anybody ? Thought not

You clearly have no knowledge of football. Please use this link http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?action=logout;sesc=615bc9123298bdc0f6da52cf9b4d6410

Lol. Why did i click on that??
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