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The Official Next Manager Discussion Thread

Started by Rhys Lightning 63, November 07, 2015, 04:14:56 PM

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Wearethewhites

I think an embargo is very likely. I know the Club are still in negotiations with the football league, as to what the penalty will be, so they can't go public until they know their selves. In turn, this is most likely going to have an impact on the new Head Coach, they/he is waiting around for the news. If it's January only, I can see the new head coach joining, if it's extended into next summer, well, we're basically screwed.

Bedford White

How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?



BedsFFC

Do you think that there is a chance that the look for a new manager is winding down and we are just hoping Grey can steady the ship? Surely a search can't take this long?

Wearethewhites

Quote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?

Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.

Chutney

#2465
I think the club is hoping gray does really well with his first few games so they can appoint him full time and blame the fans for wanting him, much like they did with symons.
C O Y W


Wearethewhites

Quote from: BedsFFC on December 15, 2015, 12:28:30 PM
Do you think that there is a chance that the look for a new manager is winding down and we are just hoping Grey can steady the ship? Surely a search can't take this long?

I do believe we're looking for a manager, I do possibly believe that there is one waiting in the wings. However, I also believe that the wait is due to finding out what the FFP penalty will be, as this will impact when they can join. Gray is here to bridge that gap in case it happens. 

ToodlesMcToot

Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Quote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?

Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.

I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." — The Dude

Wearethewhites

Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 12:37:16 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Quote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?

Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.

I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.

Basically, we're 1 of 4 currently under investigation. Depending on how bad the FFP has been broken, will depend on the actual punishment. Forest and Blackburn weren't that much over, and they had an embargo for just one window? (if I'm correct). Ours could, stretch over both windows, but until we know this, I honestly feel it could impact our Head Coach position. I believe Gray has been brought in just in case we need someone to hold the ship.   


Bedford White

Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 12:37:16 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Quote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?

Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.

I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.

Basically, we're 1 of 4 currently under investigation. Depending on how bad the FFP has been broken, will depend on the actual punishment. Forest and Blackburn weren't that much over, and they had an embargo for just one window? (if I'm correct). Ours could, stretch over both windows, but until we know this, I honestly feel it could impact our Head Coach position. I believe Gray has been brought in just in case we need someone to hold the ship.   


Not exactly the Christmas present I was hoping for. Fingers crossed it's only a one window embargo, if at all. Otherwise that'll scupper next season before it's even begun!!!

MJG

Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 12:37:16 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Quote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?

Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.

I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.
that is correct.

f321ffc

#2471
My thoughts are that Rigg is hoping that results improve so he can just give Gray the job.
Things are not looking too rosy  in the SW6 camp at the moment ( apart from whats happening to the squatters) a new appointment of  a  decent Head Coach would give us all a nice Christmas  lift but unfortunately i just cant see it happening, i so much hope i`m wrong.
                                                                       COYW :merry christmas: COYW
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Growing up is optional


ToodlesMcToot

Quote from: MJG on December 15, 2015, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 12:37:16 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Quote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?

Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.

I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.
that is correct.

Have you heard any whisperings about the severity of our transgression? Or the coming punishment? Whether the punishment will be harsh or a slap? Kind of odd that something like this, coming supposedly soon, has not had any mention at al in the press. This kind of thing always has "leaks", educated guesses, uneducated guesses in the press/tabloids. Very surprising that nothing has been said in the papers.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." — The Dude

Jonnoj

Quote from: westcliff white on December 15, 2015, 11:30:37 AM
Quote from: filham on December 15, 2015, 11:25:48 AM
The January transfer window is not far away now. Isn't it essential we have a new man in position to see us through that.
Disagree with that, as in all likelihood we have a embargo. This will mean we cannot do much if any business in that window, unless the total outlay is under 600k per annum or if the contract is less than a year then less than 600k on a pro rata basis. That 600k includes any fees and salary.
Personally if we have an embargo would prefe rit to be January than during the summer

You cant pay any transfer fees if you have an embargo, only frees and then their costs inc agents etc has to come under 600 for the year

Jonnoj

Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 01:47:29 PM
Quote from: MJG on December 15, 2015, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 12:37:16 PM
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Quote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?

Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.

I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.
that is correct.

Have you heard any whisperings about the severity of our transgression? Or the coming punishment? Whether the punishment will be harsh or a slap? Kind of odd that something like this, coming supposedly soon, has not had any mention at al in the press. This kind of thing always has "leaks", educated guesses, uneducated guesses in the press/tabloids. Very surprising that nothing has been said in the papers.

It was in the Sun a while ago, most fans dismissed it as rubbish at the time.


westcliff white

#2475
Quote from: Jonnoj on December 15, 2015, 05:23:12 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on December 15, 2015, 11:30:37 AM
Quote from: filham on December 15, 2015, 11:25:48 AM
The January transfer window is not far away now. Isn't it essential we have a new man in position to see us through that.
Disagree with that, as in all likelihood we have a embargo. This will mean we cannot do much if any business in that window, unless the total outlay is under 600k per annum or if the contract is less than a year then less than 600k on a pro rata basis. That 600k includes any fees and salary.
Personally if we have an embargo would prefe rit to be January than during the summer

You cant pay any transfer fees if you have an embargo, only frees and then their costs inc agents etc has to come under 600 for the year
Which is what I said
Every day is a Fulham day

Rhys Lightning 63

As much as I want this thread to eventually take the place as most viewed AND most replies on the forum. I'll gladly trade that for us SORTING THIS MESS OUT!!!
@MattRhys63 - be warned, there will be a lot of nonsense

Sgt Fulham

Hopefully the club will take heed of our current situation and maybe appoint a new manager in the next year or two now.


SG

Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 15, 2015, 10:06:25 PM
As much as I want this thread to eventually take the place as most viewed AND most replies on the forum. I'll gladly trade that for us SORTING THIS MESS OUT!!!

Can we run this in conjunction with the women over 40 thread, then as each month elapses we can update it to the women over 41 etc. At least it will provide us with a little light relief during this time.

clarkey

Why do we care about the financial fair play restrictions, we can't buy anyone because we haven't got a manager and no players want to come to FFC. It is perfect timing and another example of the top management getting it spot on.
Great chance to clear out some more dead wood.
Any club fancy a swoop for Rigg ?