The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19

[toshes mate]

We still have the same two or four box process that is in place. Joka has a say, just as stats and scouting and finance do.

Thank you for answering my query.

The specific point about which I am unsure is whether it is possible for the other parties in the tick-box process to 'out-vote' Jokanovic and bring in a player whom he does not want. My assumption is that, while Slavisa may not get every player for whom he asks, every player who signs is someone whom he wants. Is this much true?

You would think, and hope, so. Anecdotally, such an approach has failed in the past as SJ hasn't played certain players.

I sincerely hope everybody has learned the lessons of the mistakes of a good few years and some useful, thoughtful, and productive conversation takes place before anybody resorts to ticking boxes.

[Barrett487]

Still rumblings about us wanting Grealish.

If he was our standout purchase of this window my head wouldn't come out of my hands for weeks (especially if we paid the fee they want).

[Holders]

Still rumblings about us wanting Grealish.

If he was our standout purchase of this window my head wouldn't come out of my hands for weeks (especially if we paid the fee they want).

He's a good player who needs to be coached to remain standing when looked at. He also seems to be a whinging pansy.

[Holders]

To me it's quite simple - use a 4-box system if you wish but stats and scouting are advisory inputs with SJ and finance the only elements having a veto.

[colinwhite]

Not sure this tick the box policy is going to remain in the same form  as last season. Jokanovics influence on proceedings must have improved greatly ,as he has totally proved his worth. The extent of  TK s input in signing players ,and which ones were his choices, none of us know. I am sure he has done a great job . Just think that Slavisa will have more power to his arguement particullarly during his contract negotiations than in previous years. Hopefully the club appreciates his knowledge of players and the game ,without giving him carte blanche to do whatever he likes. I think the club will get the balance right. Watching  the Khans after the win at wembley showed their delight and satisfaction, which gives me a lot of hope that we will have good transfer window,without going too bananas and losing the great spirit of the squad  which was there for all to see , and an integral reason we were able to succéed this year.

[bobby01]

As the team went to collect the trophy, I am certain shahid said to Slav you are staying here, and Slav smiled.

[Baszab]

No club will rely on the manager to find players - FFC has an extensive scouting system in place

[S.F.Sorrow]

The "boxes ticked"-system has provided  us with a squad that managed promotion. But we had to rely on 6 loans to make it happen and will probably need 7-8 quality players to stay in the PL. If our transfer success rate doesn't improve radically that will probably mean signing 10-12 players! Which obviously won't happen. I must admit I'm a bit worried. Our transfers over the last 3 seasons have been inconsistent to say the least! We got a lot of quality players but we also got:

Pringle, Richards, Mattila, Stearman, Garbutt, Labyad, Josabed, Sigurdssson, Petsos, Cyriac, Cisse, Fonte, Mollo, Soares, Graham.

Some of the most expensive ones were the worst disappointments. As always. We seem incapable of $$$ signings.

Our squad looks ridiculously thin at the moment. No proper striker. No LB. A 178cm fullback at CB. No depth in ANY position except Kebano/Ayite and Button. Any injuries/suspensions and we are forced to use youngsters.

I know it's too soon to start worrying... but I do. Let's hope for some good news soon.

[Milo]

This may be underwhelming for some but what about signing Scott Carson from Derby?

I think he would only cost approx £2m or less (He was signed for £700k a few years ago) and at 32 he still has a good 2-3 years in him. Loads of Premiership experience and personally I think he's a very good goalkeeper with a lot of fight. Was very impressed by how solid he was and his decision making in the games against us in the playoffs.

[Barrett487]

http://hammyend.com/index.php/2018/06/fulham-eyeing-bryan-offer/

Fulham eyeing Bryan offer

Fulham are keen on signing Bristol City defender Joe Bryan, according to a Daily Mirror report this afternoon.

In a story suggesting that another rumoured Fulham target, James Maddison, is wanted by the likes of Everton and Leicester City, the paper suggests that Slavisa Jokanovic is eager to bring the City left-back to Craven Cottage. Bristol City are braced for bids from Premier League suitors for their academy graduate, who made 41 first-team appearances last season, scoring three goals.

Bryan is entering the final year of his current Ashton Gate contract and Burnley have already made their interest in signing the 24 year-old, who can also operate as a wing-back or on the left of midfield, abundantly clear. Last season owner Steve Landsdown slapped a £10m price on the full-back and Bristol City would not have significantly lowered their valuation of a player who has been pivotal to the club's success under Lee Johnson. Bryan has made more than 200 league appearances for the Robins and scored in their famous League Cup win over Manchester United last term.

Fulham are known to be seeking reinforcements as they prepare for life in the Premier League, having won promotion by beating Aston Villa in the Wembley play-off final last month. It is thought that the Whites would be keen on another deal for Southampton's Matt Targett, but the Londoners have been linked with a number of other left backs including longstanding target Joe Bennett.

[Barrett487]

FC Porto are pressing hard to land Standard Liege star Edmilson Junior, who has also been linked with West Ham, Fulham and Wolves.

Read more: http://www.insidefutbol.com/2018/06/10/portuguese-giants-push-hard-to-land-west-ham-fulham-and-wolves-linked-belgium-based-winger/378427/#ixzz5I1tZwH2D

[Tabby]

Joe Bryan would be a decent replacement for Targett should Southampton decide not to sell.

[toshes mate]

To me it's quite simple - use a 4-box system if you wish but stats and scouting are advisory inputs with SJ and finance the only elements having a veto.

That would certainly make the most sense.  However, the Club does benefit from identifying potential signings either through scouting or statistics or both and I think it is what comes after when coaches discuss practical issues like a player being a good fit for the team/squad, being adaptable, being resourceful enough to play to the team style, and having the attitude essential to help the whole unit improve.  Targett and Mitrovic are examples of the kind of personality/mentality required to hit the ground running.

[Steven Ageroad]

Do you think we could have a separate thread for the discussion on the 2/4 box recruitment system as it's getting a bit boring! I'd just like to hear more about names being mentioned on The Transfer Thread.

[MrFFC]

1st signings of last summer

3rs July - Marcelo Djalo
7th July - Ibrahima Ciise

[Nero]

1st signings of last summer

3rs July - Marcelo Djalo
7th July - Ibrahima Ciise

they turned out well, lets leave it until later, problem is now is hopefully the players we are looking at wanting to sign are going to be away at the world cup so hard to get medical's done etc

[bill taylors apprentice]

If Joka is making the decisions then we should back him 100 %

He knows more about football than all of us collectively.( yes I have said it )

IN JOKA I TRUST!!'nnnn
COYW !!!

He isn't

Is Jokanovic not deciding whom he would like to bring into the Club? I ask because (i) it would surprise me if he were not; (ii) I don't know the answer.

While I can imagine that Jokanovic may not have the final say on how much we pay for a player or what salary we're prepared to offer, surely Khan Jnr has learnt enough from the Kline saga to realise that Slavisa knows best which players are most likely to complement our style of football.

We still have the same two or four box process that is in place. Joka has a say, just as stats and scouting and finance do.

[/b]

That's fine by me, with one proviso!

If the scouting & stats say yes and the finances are in place does the man who will be picking, training, coaching, motivating etc the team be able to say NO?
Can he say, I don't fancy him so lets find someone else?

At this level, you can have any recruitment system you like but for me if you trust your HC then he must have the final say if he has a good reason.
That's the bottom line for me 

[MJG]

If Joka is making the decisions then we should back him 100 %

He knows more about football than all of us collectively.( yes I have said it )

IN JOKA I TRUST!!'nnnn
COYW !!!

He isn't

Is Jokanovic not deciding whom he would like to bring into the Club? I ask because (i) it would surprise me if he were not; (ii) I don't know the answer.

While I can imagine that Jokanovic may not have the final say on how much we pay for a player or what salary we're prepared to offer, surely Khan Jnr has learnt enough from the Kline saga to realise that Slavisa knows best which players are most likely to complement our style of football.

We still have the same two or four box process that is in place. Joka has a say, just as stats and scouting and finance do.

[/b]

That's fine by me, with one proviso!

If the scouting & stats say yes and the finances are in place does the man who will be picking, training, coaching, motivating etc the team be able to say NO?
Can he say, I don't fancy him so lets find someone else?

At this level, you can have any recruitment system you like but for me if you trust your HC then he must have the final say if he has a good reason.
That's the bottom line for me

for first team squad players yes, just as it works other way if the HC wants someone who fails one of the other three options then it's probe no. But there have been cases at bit he ends of the spectrum that have gone though.
Slav did not know Ayite for example and wasn't sure at all. And Johansen we didt have enough data but SJ wanted him.

[General]

Ruben Loftus cheek anyone?

[Lighthouse]

 Cardiff are signing Josh Murphy of Norwich for 11 million quid.