Read a headline that reads: "Occupy Wall Street has gone global"???

[McBridefan1]

Foreign fighters? How does that work?   :028: 065.gif

[zzamora]

Facebook. Twitter.

I heard about the LSX sit in this morn on facebook.

[finnster01]

Good luck to them!! These idiots have managed so far to achieve:
1) Absolutely nothing
2) Nobody understands why they are even there, including themselves
3) Unlike what they tell you on TV, go down and watch and you will realize a very significant portion is funded by by social security and student loans. (Just watch the upswing at each month when new cheques have been cut)
4) Pain in the arse because of the noise, especially if struggling with a hangover and having meetings around there
5) They should march to Washington. Wall Street is just the stock exchange and apartments these days. Everyone in banking is in midtown or New Jersey now.

Total waste of time. I wish they put as much effort into finding a job, but that would ruin the purpose wouldn't it?

[ImperialWhite]

I wish they put as much effort into finding a job, but that would ruin the purpose wouldn't it?

But that's the point - there aren't enough so they can't (all)! Thanks to the greedy banker ''see ya next Tuesdays" (and the fact that hard working taxpayers had to bail out billionaires), even if some of them found jobs, not all would - there aren't enough. By protesting they hope to make it so that everyone could get a job if they wanted.

[finnster01]

I wish they put as much effort into finding a job, but that would ruin the purpose wouldn't it?

But that's the point - there aren't enough so they can't (all)! Thanks to the greedy banker ''see ya next Tuesdays" (and the fact that hard working taxpayers had to bail out billionaires), even if some of them found jobs, not all would - there aren't enough. By protesting they hope to make it so that everyone could get a job if they wanted.

Been there, done that. In fact, I have been homeless too (in London). Then I realized it was perfectly possible to create your own job and I haven't looked back since.

These are just lazy buggers who doesn't try hard enough. Find them in every country.

[Burt]

The movement does seem to be spreading though... There was a bunch of them in San Francisco, tents and all.

Speaking to one of the locals about it he says that the unions have taken up the cause and made it their own.

[finnster01]

The movement does seem to be spreading though... There was a bunch of them in San Francisco, tents and all.

Speaking to one of the locals about it he says that the unions have taken up the cause and made it their own.

I am waiting for Arthur Scargill to appear too  :011:

[jarv]

Mr Finn, I'd love to meet you for a beer but on this one, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT. Sorry 075.gif

[YankeeJim]

Mr Finn, I'd love to meet you for a beer but on this one, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT. Sorry 075.gif

Actually, Finn has it exactly right. This is the same group of of 8th year undergrads, trust fund turkeys & victacrats that have been around since the dawn of time. They have always had someone pay for them; daddy first and Uncle Sugar next. They are right about the greed but the greed is in DC as much as it is on Wall Street. We have corporate types, Soros/Murdock et al, who buy the lads  (read politicians here) & then pretend to support the "working families". They sound like Lenin talking about the proletariat.

[jarv]

Jim,

Sorry, wrong!  Westen governments bail the banks out and sell the rest of us out. I say no more. else will be locked which is probably a good thing for this thread.

Let's discuss how can Fulham win away. (not sure which topic makes me more angry/disillusioned)
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[Jimbobob]

The movement does seem to be spreading though... There was a bunch of them in San Francisco, tents and all.

Speaking to one of the locals about it he says that the unions have taken up the cause and made it their own.

Burt:
The tents and stuff is just what San Fran looks like all the time.
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[Jimbobob]

Good luck to them!! These idiots have managed so far to achieve:
1) Absolutely nothing
2) Nobody understands why they are even there, including themselves
3) Unlike what they tell you on TV, go down and watch and you will realize a very significant portion is funded by by social security and student loans. (Just watch the upswing at each month when new cheques have been cut)
4) Pain in the arse because of the noise, especially if struggling with a hangover and having meetings around there
5) They should march to Washington. Wall Street is just the stock exchange and apartments these days. Everyone in banking is in midtown or New Jersey now.

Total waste of time. I wish they put as much effort into finding a job, but that would ruin the purpose wouldn't it?

Oh Finn...I am lost in your eyes...:004: :004: :004:
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[FatFreddysCat]

Surely a mass shooting of the commies is in order. I'm thinking lorries pulling up with machine guns like in the Great escape. Dirty smelly lot who wouldn't know how to use a can of Lynx  :014:
We are the far Rights  :028:

[MrFantastic]

Same people that protest work for same greedy companies. It would be better to boycott companies that do not respect and pay their workers fairly than protest on streets and at the end go to same companies and still buy things from them or use their services. If we let's say boycott a store that doesn't pay their workers fairly like Wal Mart at least in USA some of those workers don't even have health coverage. They get out of paying for it by letting their workers work less than 35 hours a week part time employees don't have to have health coverage in USA. So instead of buying in Wal Mart go to another store that treats their workers right,  even if prices are a little bit more still you will force company to change it's ways, because owners won't close their huge stores but will change their workers policy and be better to them. I don't know why billioners need more money they got rich of poor people working for them . Their biggest weakness is poor people because if they unite their empire will fall, they will still be rich but not super rich. Their biggest strenght is peoples ignorance. I have nothing against rich people but i do against super rich people. Iheard one billioner say on tv I want as much money as i can get so one day i can buy moon. That is greed right there.

[Drake44444]

Mr Finn, I'd love to meet you for a beer but on this one, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT. Sorry 075.gif

Actually, Finn has it exactly right. This is the same group of of 8th year undergrads, trust fund turkeys & victacrats that have been around since the dawn of time. They have always had someone pay for them; daddy first and Uncle Sugar next. They are right about the greed but the greed is in DC as much as it is on Wall Street. We have corporate types, Soros/Murdock et al, who buy the lads  (read politicians here) & then pretend to support the "working families". They sound like Lenin talking about the proletariat.

great post i agree

[ImperialWhite]

I wish they put as much effort into finding a job, but that would ruin the purpose wouldn't it?

But that's the point - there aren't enough so they can't (all)! Thanks to the greedy banker ''see ya next Tuesdays" (and the fact that hard working taxpayers had to bail out billionaires), even if some of them found jobs, not all would - there aren't enough. By protesting they hope to make it so that everyone could get a job if they wanted.

Been there, done that. In fact, I have been homeless too (in London). Then I realized it was perfectly possible to create your own job and I haven't looked back since.

These are just lazy buggers who doesn't try hard enough. Find them in every country.

If you're hard working and lucky, maybe.

But not everyone. There are a million unemployed youngsters in the UK (20% unemployment) - are we really going to start one million new (successful) businesses? Yeah right.

The banks messed up, we're paying for it.

[epsomraver]

The people demonstrating are not the young unemployed though, they are the usual rent a mob, banner waving  socialist workers  who have been around since the sixties, mostly made up of Daddies little soldiers who want to change the world ............as long as it doesn't affect their allowance from Daddy who is "something in the city"

[McBridefan1]

This is from a guy named ruddy antic on the Offal... and I've got to say Finny I'm on the side of the people on this one.

I think your still missing the picture here.

what are we suppose to do....get rid of everything in our modern day society and go back to bear skins and rocks for hunting?

we have no choice but attempt to fix the problem and the problem is not the consumer goods we use to allow us to live in one of the most technologically advanced societies in the world. The problem is not the profits made by those who own, manufacture or sell these commodities.

the problem is in allowing the use of their profits to legislate themselves into a position of immunity while criminally extracting all EVERYTHING out of the society while expecting us to pay for EVERYTHING again, because they legally misused and funneled the profits into some "unknown" oblivion...which is ONLY unknown, because they control the media to a point where the information is misrepresented as to what and where the money went. They control the media in the same way they control our legislature. with those huge profits and their buying power.

The monies were artificially there to start with. Over inflating the value of your company allows you to borrow larger amount of monies on the inflated collateral, which isn't real!!!

This is what Fannie Mae and Enron did...only this has been done INTERNATIONALLY!!!

The WHOLE GLOBAL ECONOMY cannot borrow it's way out of this, and they cannot borrow monies from the corporations which claim to have lost the monies that never existed in the first place...so now they want it again at the tax payers expense BECAUSE(if they fail the whole National Economy fails).

This is really hard for the common working class to follow, because there is so many nuances involved in regard to international money exchange (Forex)and international trading which is done on WALL STREET.

The whole thing here is that is essentially BLACKMAILING EVERY GOVERNMENT WORLDWIDE THROUGH THREAT OF ECONOMIC collapse, if we fail to borrow against a FALSE ECONOMIC DEBT from (CHINA?)if we do not bail these corporations out of FALSE LOSS, which was manufactured.

in effect they are going to get us for the non existent losses which were inflationary values to start with AFTER THE FACT AT compounded interest rates which would take us 4 generations to pay back...and the money was never there, spent or lost to start with!!!!!!

This WHOLE PLAN AND CORRUPT manipulation would not be possible without the mind bending techniques being used by the media in the last 15-20 years

The media is just plain FALSE in its presentation of facts...this is the big dog that has the people by the foot!!! and I am not even mentioning that instilled within the content of entertainment material.
I am merely pointing at that which we BELIEVE to be REALITY AND FACTUAL presentations


The recent FCC sale of specific Frequencies...played a major role when the DIGITAL HD revolution was implemented.

there are so many limbs on this tree, that we have no choice but hack at the ROOT

going after OBAMA because he was bought out like every politician from Nixon to date or any specific congressman or representative............is a moot point

Now that we are in this situation...WHAT TO DO?

Phase 1: WAKE THE PEOPLE

That is where we are at:

Phase 2: RALLY THE PEOPLE

we are at simultaneously working phase one to bring about phase two.

Phase 3: stay tuned.

This whole thing has already gotten bigger than any of us can put a handle on.
Our only hope is to keep pushing in the direction we think and hope it should go.

I have faith that when enough are awakened. It will force an acceptable concession or bring about the open revelation of what we face.

either way, we are in a better place than being the blind cattle herded to the slaughter house.


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[McBridefan1]

Add to this the grip the health care companies have on the working class and you would feel the same... if this country had free health care then small businesses would have a much easier time starting up... I know some very skilled artisans from roofers to masons to carpenters that have to work as a laborer for cheap money so they can afford health care. Only big companies can afford this health care and so they keep us under their thumb. My employer pays 30,000 dollars for each employee's health care and we pay another 5,000 to 6,000 and I work for the City of Lowell MA. I make enough to get by, just. I work odd jobs to make enough to take a vacation from time to time... So it makes me wonder how people survive working for these big companies that pay so little. These companies make enough to hire more people at a decent wage but it all comes down to the bottom line. Also to say, just go out and start your own company is reckless. To do this I would have to gamble the current welfare not just of myself but of my wife and children as well. While our situation is not great, it could be a hell of a lot worse. If I were single I could take all the risks I want with no fear, but to risk my family's welfare for a chance to be wealthy isn't one I can take, and many people find themselves in that situation... Finny you were homeless in London, but things would have been alot different if you had a family at the time. At the end of the day asking the top 400 people in this country to pay a little more isn't beyond the realm when you consider they make more money than the other 99% of of the people combined. The top 400 people make more money than the other 350 million people combined, doesn't that seem a little askew to you?

[Logicalman]

MB1, I have to say I do agree with a lot of your sentiments, though I would look at two points of your post. Firstly, there is no such thing as free health care. In the end, somebody pays for it, either via direct taxes, Health Insurance, or companies tax, and in the end, those that cannot afford it or cannot contribute by whatever means, still need it, and so those that do contribute, still pay for them. Secondly, Ma, I believe, have their own plans concerning Health Care, outside of the standard Federal plans adopted, or not, by other states.

The main reason for my post though, is to agree, more or less, with what Finn said.
I have been unemployed for 2 weeks since the age of 16. Only once I signed on for the dole, and that was once enough for me, I swore to myself never again. I have worked three jobs at the same time when I first got married, I was shelf-stacking, office temping and then at night I was at Bournemouth airport unloading the flowers that came in from the Channel islands. When I turned 40, I emigrated to the US. I had been a copper for 15 years prior to that and when I got here I took up programming. I have been reasonably successful at it, and am now considered financially sound.

I would stand and argue with anybody that says they cannot find a job, because they can - period. The problems I see today is that youngsters have a sense of entitlement. They harp on about going to school, paying fees, accumulating educational fees in excess of 25K and then moan because they cannot find a job when they graduate. Well, DUH, why didn't you look at what the job market was about before you decided to waste your time graduating with a degree for which there are no jobs? Not exactly too smart there, eh?

I am fed up about the governments, do-gooders, and others, harping on about having to create jobs for these people, NO, let these people actually go out and fill the jobs that are there, however 'beneath' them, or 'over qualified' they feel they are. Only then will I agree that we need to create jobs for people.

I know my views may rile some of you out there but they are as I see it. Disagree if you wish, but make it constructive.


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