Senderos

[A Humble Man]

Under Hodgson and Hughes we had two banks of four who defended when we did not have the ball, under Jol we have a back four and and an attacking six with some defensive support from the central midfielders.  This put a terrible strain on the defence particularly against fast breaking team.

Jol has tried an experiment but without the four best defenders in the World it does not work.  Please play a more defensive system and get the ball forward and into the box quicker, at least until we have enough points to be safe.

So basically 8 defending outfield players hoofing it long into the box? 

You guys need to get together and code these responses.

The one you just wrote would be "A1"
"If you want Jol out, who would repace him" would be "B2"
"I can't believe so many people are panicking after one or two losses against top teams" would be C3
"None of this is Jol's fault. It's the players/the board/MAF/the booing supporters" would be D4

Once you've established this list, your typing load would be much reduced. Hey, no reason to thank me. I'm just looking out for the "Jol In Brigade."

OOPS! "Jol Out Brigade" would be E5  :scarf:

Man United do not hoof the ball up the pitch but the pass and move and get the ball into the opposition penalty area as soon as possible. We just pass and pass and rarely get the box that rarely has any of our players are in. 

[Rudolph]

Under Hodgson and Hughes we had two banks of four who defended when we did not have the ball, under Jol we have a back four and and an attacking six with some defensive support from the central midfielders.  This put a terrible strain on the defence particularly against fast breaking team.

Jol has tried an experiment but without the four best defenders in the World it does not work.  Please play a more defensive system and get the ball forward and into the box quicker, at least until we have enough points to be safe.

So basically 8 defending outfield players hoofing it long into the box? 

You guys need to get together and code these responses.

The one you just wrote would be "A1"
"If you want Jol out, who would repace him" would be "B2"
"I can't believe so many people are panicking after one or two losses against top teams" would be C3
"None of this is Jol's fault. It's the players/the board/MAF/the booing supporters" would be D4

Once you've established this list, your typing load would be much reduced. Hey, no reason to thank me. I'm just looking out for the "Jol In Brigade."

OOPS! "Jol Out Brigade" would be E5  :scarf:

Man United do not hoof the ball up the pitch but the pass and move and get the ball into the opposition penalty area as soon as possible. We just pass and pass and rarely get the box that rarely has any of our players are in. 

So the answer has been with us all along.  We must play like man utd and then we'll win games.  Tremendous insight squire.

[A Humble Man]

Under Hodgson and Hughes we had two banks of four who defended when we did not have the ball, under Jol we have a back four and and an attacking six with some defensive support from the central midfielders.  This put a terrible strain on the defence particularly against fast breaking team.

Jol has tried an experiment but without the four best defenders in the World it does not work.  Please play a more defensive system and get the ball forward and into the box quicker, at least until we have enough points to be safe.

So basically 8 defending outfield players hoofing it long into the box? 

You guys need to get together and code these responses.

The one you just wrote would be "A1"
"If you want Jol out, who would repace him" would be "B2"
"I can't believe so many people are panicking after one or two losses against top teams" would be C3
"None of this is Jol's fault. It's the players/the board/MAF/the booing supporters" would be D4

Once you've established this list, your typing load would be much reduced. Hey, no reason to thank me. I'm just looking out for the "Jol In Brigade."

OOPS! "Jol Out Brigade" would be E5  :scarf:

Man United do not hoof the ball up the pitch but the pass and move and get the ball into the opposition penalty area as soon as possible. We just pass and pass and rarely get the box that rarely has any of our players are in. 

So the answer has been with us all along.  We must play like man utd and then we'll win games.  Tremendous insight squire.

We could at least try and not keep wimping the ball backwards and sideways and forgetting the forward option through fear of failure.

[Senior Supporter]

Under Hodgson and Hughes we had two banks of four who defended when we did not have the ball, under Jol we have a back four and and an attacking six with some defensive support from the central midfielders.  This put a terrible strain on the defence particularly against fast breaking team.

Jol has tried an experiment but without the four best defenders in the World it does not work.  Please play a more defensive system and get the ball forward and into the box quicker, at least until we have enough points to be safe.

So basically 8 defending outfield players hoofing it long into the box? 

You guys need to get together and code these responses.

The one you just wrote would be "A1"
"If you want Jol out, who would repace him" would be "B2"
"I can't believe so many people are panicking after one or two losses against top teams" would be C3
"None of this is Jol's fault. It's the players/the board/MAF/the booing supporters" would be D4

Once you've established this list, your typing load would be much reduced. Hey, no reason to thank me. I'm just looking out for the "Jol In Brigade."

OOPS! "Jol Out Brigade" would be E5  :scarf:

"O.K., A1 doesn't work, but I think E5 would be unfair because D4. C3, and anyway B2".

I've got the gist of it, but will decoding lists be provided before we all  090.gif?   

[epsomraver]

Under Hodgson and Hughes we had two banks of four who defended when we did not have the ball, under Jol we have a back four and and an attacking six with some defensive support from the central midfielders.  This put a terrible strain on the defence particularly against fast breaking team.

Jol has tried an experiment but without the four best defenders in the World it does not work.  Please play a more defensive system and get the ball forward and into the box quicker, at least until we have enough points to be safe.

So basically 8 defending outfield players hoofing it long into the box? 

You guys need to get together and code these responses.

The one you just wrote would be "A1"
"If you want Jol out, who would repace him" would be "B2"
"I can't believe so many people are panicking after one or two losses against top teams" would be C3
"None of this is Jol's fault. It's the players/the board/MAF/the booing supporters" would be D4

Once you've established this list, your typing load would be much reduced. Hey, no reason to thank me. I'm just looking out for the "Jol In Brigade."

OOPS! "Jol Out Brigade" would be E5  :scarf:

Man United do not hoof the ball up the pitch but the pass and move and get the ball into the opposition penalty area as soon as possible. We just pass and pass and rarely get the box that rarely has any of our players are in. 

So the answer has been with us all along.  We must play like man utd and then we'll win games.  Tremendous insight squire.

We could at least try and not keep wimping the ball backwards and sideways and forgetting the forward option through fear of failure.

Now that I agree totally with you, Tigana said that he wanted players to out on the pitch and express themselves, try things without fear of reproach , that seems so long ago now.

[grandad]

Z 26 WUMS, get lost

[ffc73]

Well played sir

[Snibbo]

Senderos was fine. I think he did much better against Carroll and Cole that Aaron would have done. Tony Gale can shut the f**k up - he's like a broken record.

[Rudolph]

Senderos was fine. I think he did much better against Carroll and Cole that Aaron would have done. Tony Gale can shut the f**k up - he's like a broken record.

I agree, he is trying to influence opinion on a perfectly good player due to his own agenda.  The other part of Senderos' game that's superior to Hughes is his distribution.  That ball he played to Berbatov which he eventually pulled up from was superb.  I hope he gets a good run in the team as he deserves a chance.

[YankeeJim]

Hughes struggles against big attackers. I have no problem with bringing Senderos in when the other side has the likes of Carrol or Rooney. I love Aaron but he is on the downside of a good career.

[FFC1987]

Well for me this just confirms that A) he isn't as terrible as some make out and B) Maybe with Brede, Hughes and Big Phil we are currently OK for squad depth in the CB role...well maybe one more for competition couldn't help :)
Ps. Looking forward to Rudolph making a comment!

[cottage cheese]

Well for me this just confirms that A) he isn't as terrible as some make out and B) Maybe with Brede, Hughes and Big Phil we are currently OK for squad depth in the CB role...well maybe one more for competition couldn't help :)
Ps. Looking forward to Rudolph making a comment!

I still woudnt trust him on a regular basis. He does pass the ball at times to the opposition and gets caught out. However, when we play against teams who like to play over the top then he is the man for it, as he is rarely beaten in the air and very stong.
I only worry when we play teams who like to pass the ball and play through the ground...thats when senderos gets caught out.

[Tonywa]

He gave the ball away in dangerous positions the first two times he received it, while is still very prone to loosing the man he is marking at crucial moments.

[FFC1987]

Well for me this just confirms that A) he isn't as terrible as some make out and B) Maybe with Brede, Hughes and Big Phil we are currently OK for squad depth in the CB role...well maybe one more for competition couldn't help :)
Ps. Looking forward to Rudolph making a comment!

I still woudnt trust him on a regular basis. He does pass the ball at times to the opposition and gets caught out. However, when we play against teams who like to play over the top then he is the man for it, as he is rarely beaten in the air and very stong.
I only worry when we play teams who like to pass the ball and play through the ground...thats when senderos gets caught out.

Well his distribution also counters the big men as he doesnt just lump the ball forward and have it come back at us. Good for the team but yes, can't argue with the logic of using Hughes in different games for tactical reasons, just emphasises my point about squad depth in the CB role really. I'd like an addition though.

[FFC1987]

He gave the ball away in dangerous positions the first two times he received it, while is still very prone to loosing the man he is marking at crucial moments.

So did Brede but he got raving reviews too.

[PokerMatt]

He gave the ball away in dangerous positions the first two times he received it, while is still very prone to loosing the man he is marking at crucial moments.

Non-world class defender in "Susceptible to mistakes" shocker.

He played well. No other player last night (except Ruiz) is getting stick and nor should Phil.

[Swiss72]

He compensates his lack of vision by a full commitment and he is rock solid. I don't think he would have been out-muscled twice like Brede was by Carlton Cole towards the end of the game. So I agree he is useful for games against teams like Stoke or West Ham, less for Swansea or ManU.

[epsomraver]

He gave the ball away in dangerous positions the first two times he received it, while is still very prone to loosing the man he is marking at crucial moments.

So did Brede but he got raving reviews too.

Really, not in the match I watched, Senderos had a good game against average opposition  but as already stated he gave the ball away in dangerous positions, is easily turned as he lunges in, If only he could read the game as Hughes does then we would have a great centre back

[epsomraver]

Senderos was fine. I think he did much better against Carroll and Cole that Aaron would have done. Tony Gale can shut the f**k up - he's like a broken record.

How can you judge how Hughes would have performed?

[PokerMatt]

Senderos was fine. I think he did much better against Carroll and Cole that Aaron would have done. Tony Gale can shut the f**k up - he's like a broken record.

How can you judge how Hughes would have performed?

Maybe the same way people are judging how senderos "might well have made costly errors"?