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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #180 on: March 02, 2013, 04:54:26 PM »
2 key moments, Berbs miss and the dodgy penalty to them. Don't think we played well, but I also don't think we were awful and would of probably taken at draw at the start of the game it's just a shame about how we through away the 2 goal lead.

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #181 on: March 02, 2013, 04:54:33 PM »
on the plus side, we're in the top ten and 9 points clear. Should still be 9 points after wigan and villa play too

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #182 on: March 02, 2013, 04:55:23 PM »
We should have beaten a very poor Sunderland side. One point closer to safety, but I cant wait until this season is over.

Dejagah was good again and Emanuelson very lively when he came on.

Feels like we're still missing something in centre midfield. Senderos will get alot of criticism, but we simply tried to defend the whole second half.

Duff was poor again, and Hangeland didnt have his best game. Still not convinced by the Ruiz and Berbatov partnership


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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #183 on: March 02, 2013, 04:55:47 PM »
Can't wait for the Senderos scapegoating to commence  fp.gif

Well tbh. It was a team effort to be as poor as we were in second half..

Exactly.

But Senderos will still be the full guy.

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #184 on: March 02, 2013, 04:55:49 PM »
Such a shame to waste the advantage, on the other hand a point away is not bad.

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #185 on: March 02, 2013, 04:56:06 PM »
i will take a point too but the disappointing thing is that sunderland are a really awful team,  gave Fulham 2 goals and still no win.


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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #186 on: March 02, 2013, 04:56:25 PM »
Here we go again, we did not lose and that ain't good enough. What is it with you People?

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #187 on: March 02, 2013, 04:56:51 PM »
We really were not that bad.  Reverse the situation and what would your opinion be if we had played liked sunderland have just done at home?  The game turned on a great save from Berba and them getting a lucky break at the other end to equalize.  No need to scapegoat Berba (really bizarre given he now has 10 goals for us this season) or Senderos as seems the usual thing to do if we don't win.

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #188 on: March 02, 2013, 04:56:58 PM »
Oh well, in effect we are 10 pts from the drop zone & up & up to 10th. Reasonably happy. Surely Jol has to bring back either Hughes or Baird for that walking disaster Senderos.


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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #189 on: March 02, 2013, 04:57:14 PM »
this has been dreadful

Dreadful? I found it an enticing game with good chances on both sides.

Oh come on this was two sides devoid of any confidence scrapping for a point. I don't enjoy watching Fulham when they play like this. A lot of walking around and standing still, misplaced passes and scrambling around in the penalty area trying to hold Sunderland to a point as if we were 3 divisions below them. Should have hammered them :/

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #190 on: March 02, 2013, 05:00:18 PM »
Decent point but frustrating, we had the better chances and defended really well apart from Senderos's poor mistake. Sunderland by and large were poor. Should really have won this game.

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #191 on: March 02, 2013, 05:03:24 PM »
our lack of fire power through the centre at times means our right and left back push on at every oppotunity despite sometimes the positioning of the ball and players doesnt allow it... it worked for our 2nd goal but for their 2nd it didnt, Riise found himself in the striker role with no chance of getting back.

we have to become faster on the ball. Berba gets away with it cos of his brain and strength Ruiz doesnt and gets robbed of the ball ALOT and when Urby come on (and i would like to see him stat) he was robbed more than he should have been


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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #192 on: March 02, 2013, 05:04:08 PM »
At the risk of scapegoating, and I am a bit, Duff deserves to be dropped. He's just not effective on the left flank and Dejagah can't be dropped to accommodate him. Maybe Jol feels Emanuelson isn't fit enough or isn't adapted yet? He looked a little off the pace when he came on but he still posed far more threat than Duff.
Same team but with Emanuelson for Duff.

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #193 on: March 02, 2013, 05:07:23 PM »


Dreadful? I found it an enticing game with good chances on both sides.

how can you be optimistic after a game like that? Total control, then throwing it away with mistake upon mistake.
When Sunderland got level, they were only putting 1 or 2 in the box for corners as they were settling for the point, and knew we wouldnt be any threat, and we werent. As soon as Sunderland got the second goal , they had control of the whole match.

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Berbatov should have scored another two. The one on one should have been placed away from the keeper, and he decided to shoot from range because he had no pace.
Riise went forward and was in the Sunderland box when mignolet saved from Berbatov, took his time getting back and left us open to Sessegnons  shot.
Dont have confidence in Senderos, seems to be good at passing back to Schwarzer and not much else. But the pen was soft, and the ref only gave it to balance the books.

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Duff was anonymous until he came off. Emmanuelson looked better when he came on.
Karagounis was great first half, and is an insult to the man to mention him in the same sentence as his replacement. I dont get what Frimpong brings to the team, a diving header to give a corner away when in space, losing possession too often and a bit of handball.. Think he has been learning from the school of senderos.
Dejegah should have scored and Rodallega didnt have much time to do anything.

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We're in the top 10 for the first time in a long time and the counter attack goal and the willingness to get forward was a delight to see. More consistency over 90 minutes instead of sitting back and more points will come.

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #194 on: March 02, 2013, 05:07:32 PM »
What annoys me is that when we did break forward we made them look awful. But we are back to losing shape when our midfield try and support. Sorry but Ruiz behind Berbatov DOESN'T AND HASN'T WORKED. Pace wide and pace through the middle does work and would have done again today.

Swart back to his poor kicking, Frimpong awful and lucky not to give away handball and seem off the pace. Senderos his mistake a game usual.

But Dejagha continedues to look good. Players are there but we need a better formation and a striker playing as a striker


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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #195 on: March 02, 2013, 05:10:08 PM »
At the risk of scapegoating, and I am a bit, Duff deserves to be dropped. He's just not effective on the left flank and Dejagah can't be dropped to accommodate him. Maybe Jol feels Emanuelson isn't fit enough or isn't adapted yet? He looked a little off the pace when he came on but he still posed far more threat than Duff.
Same team but with Emanuelson for Duff.
+1, sometimes while watching Duff I ask myself why did Fulham offered him an extension. The guy is 34 and very ineffective as a winger. He is too slow and has not made one single cross for many games. Emmanuelson looks very quick and full of desire...

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #196 on: March 02, 2013, 05:11:17 PM »
What annoys me is that when we did break forward we made them look awful. But we are back to losing shape when our midfield try and support. Sorry but Ruiz behind Berbatov DOESN'T AND HASN'T WORKED. Pace wide and pace through the middle does work and would have done again today.

Swart back to his poor kicking, Frimpong awful and lucky not to give away handball and seem off the pace. Senderos his mistake a game usual.

But Dejagha continedues to look good. Players are there but we need a better formation and a striker playing as a striker

Ruiz and Berba HAS worked well the past two games. Ruiz dominated today, he was excellent.

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #197 on: March 02, 2013, 05:11:27 PM »
fair enough. 3-4 clean chances, made two of them. their make-up pk aside, they didn't offer much. Riether... how determined can you be? puts everyone else to shame, dejagah aside. my head sunk a bit when rodallega made his way on, but on his wages i guess you've got to play him every few matches... can't be helped. limping into 10th, kings of the rabble.


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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #198 on: March 02, 2013, 05:13:49 PM »
Today we suffered from away game syndrome. We played for a point in the second half. Thankfully we got it.
I don't accept the Ruiz-Berba partnership doesn't work, to me it has worked well the past two games, and the formation works fairly well. Just need a better left winger as Duff is ineffective.

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Re: Sunderland v Fulham match thread
« Reply #199 on: March 02, 2013, 05:14:49 PM »
fair enough. 3-4 clean chances, made two of them. their make-up pk aside, they didn't offer much. Riether... how determined can you be? puts everyone else to shame, dejagah aside. my head sunk a bit when rodallega made his way on, but on his wages i guess you've got to play him every few matches... can't be helped. limping into 10th, kings of the rabble.

Well at least - "kings of the rabble" made me laugh!
Ridiculous how we always manage to to spit in the face of victory.
A least we held on for a damn draw which looked dicey at best...