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Team news: Davies , Dejagah, Diarra out

Started by Zu-Meister, May 10, 2013, 01:56:19 PM

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Zu-Meister

Everyone else is fine.

Jol targets mathematical safety at the weekend: "We will focus on ourselves to try and get a result to make sure that we are safe."

Our Manager confirms that he will have Mladen Petric available at his disposal once again on Sunday

Jol on Berbatov speculation: 'He has another year, so that's not a concern'

JackyFulham90

Will be interesting to see how we line up Sunday I really hope Rodallega starts

................Schwarzer............

Riether Senderos Hangeland Richardson

.................Enoh........Ruiz............

Emanuelson........Berbatov........Kacaniklic.......

...........................Rodallega..............

Subs - Etheridge , Hughes , Frimpong , Duff , Karagounis , Frei , Petric

TWFL

Quote from: JackyFulham90 on May 10, 2013, 02:41:32 PM
Will be interesting to see how we line up Sunday I really hope Rodallega starts

................Schwarzer............

Riether Senderos Hangeland Richardson

.................Enoh........Ruiz............

Emanuelson........Berbatov........Kacaniklic.......

...........................Rodallega..............

Subs - Etheridge , Hughes , Frimpong , Duff , Karagounis , Frei , Petric
Completely agree with that. It's risky, but y'know we're safe ( :hook:) so I'd rather we went for it and tried to make it an entertaining game.


Zu-Meister

no to ruiz playing central midfield. him and emanuelson simply should not be allowed to play that position in the premier league. chuck in frimpong for ruiz and thats the team id go for.

TWFL

Quote from: Zu-Meister on May 10, 2013, 02:46:22 PM
no to ruiz playing central midfield. him and emanuelson simply should not be allowed to play that position in the premier league. chuck in frimpong for ruiz and thats the team id go for.
So you wouldn't play the only guy that has scored for us in the past month on Sunday? Bold...

Zu-Meister

Quote from: TWFL on May 10, 2013, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: Zu-Meister on May 10, 2013, 02:46:22 PM
no to ruiz playing central midfield. him and emanuelson simply should not be allowed to play that position in the premier league. chuck in frimpong for ruiz and thats the team id go for.
So you wouldn't play the only guy that has scored for us in the past month on Sunday? Bold...
its either him or berba for me. and berba has the edge. hes too lightweight to play int he middle. same with emanuelson.


MJG

Why do people thing Ruiz in a central midfield of two is an answer. We might get away with it against teams that get relegated.....oh wait no we didn't.
Ok maybe we will get away with it against teams in the top 8...no i doubt it.

Your all just trying to fit him in the team in anyway you can..just as Jol does.

Burt

Am I alone in thinking that since Dejagah has been out injured we have lost a bit of sparkle?


rusty shackleford

Nothing is ever a concern for Jol

Like, how 2 days before the transfer window closed, Dembele leaving was not a concern because no one could match his buy out claus


ToodlesMcToot

Quote from: Burt on May 10, 2013, 04:11:25 PM
Am I alone in thinking that since Dejagah has been out injured we have lost a bit of sparkle?



We've lost a lot of sparkle since Dejagah was lost. We might be left with just a little twinkle, though we seemed to be hiding that for the most part last week.
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PaulJ123

When Dejagah was last on, weren't we 3-0 up vs QPR...since hes gone we've conceded 13 and scored 3 getting 1 point.

Lost all sparkle

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Burt

Not to be confused with Sparky-less, which we are also.

Arthur

Quote from: rusty shackleford on May 10, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
Nothing is ever a concern for Jol

Says you - conveniently overlooking the fact that the comment before his remark about Berbatov shows that he is concerned that we should not have to rely on other teams' results to be safe.


TWFL

Quote from: Zu-Meister on May 10, 2013, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: TWFL on May 10, 2013, 03:27:17 PM
Quote from: Zu-Meister on May 10, 2013, 02:46:22 PM
no to ruiz playing central midfield. him and emanuelson simply should not be allowed to play that position in the premier league. chuck in frimpong for ruiz and thats the team id go for.
So you wouldn't play the only guy that has scored for us in the past month on Sunday? Bold...
its either him or berba for me. and berba has the edge. hes too lightweight to play int he middle. same with emanuelson.
He's not as lightweight as everyone seems to think. Even then do you really need two heavy duty midfielders? Karagounis doesn't seem to put in tackles all that often (they're not great when he does) and yet people love in CM.

I just think Ruiz in CM means he will see more, be able to connect the back four with the front men better than others and he has the quality to put in a Murphy-esque killer ball to create a chance. Our other CMs don't do that enough, if at all.

That's just my two cents on it anyway, it's up to Jol at the end of the day, I'd just like us to go for it. We've nothing to lose, apart from the match of course..


Riverside

Quote from: PaulJ123 on May 10, 2013, 04:21:21 PM
When Dejagah was last on, weren't we 3-0 up vs QPR...since hes gone we've conceded 13 and scored 3 getting 1 point.

Lost all sparkle

I think we have missed Sidwell as well .
Basically been gone the same time . Exposed again our lack of depth in CM.
Though for self inflicted reasons !!

jmh

Quote from: rusty shackleford on May 10, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
Nothing is ever a concern for Jol

Like, how 2 days before the transfer window closed, Dembele leaving was not a concern because no one could match his buy out claus
This is incorrect.  The story went that Jol didn't actually realize that Dembele had a buyout clause (which is also a misstep on his part), not that he didn't think anyone would meet it.

filham

We have tried Ruiz in a number of positions and the only one that at times works is right behind the main striker. To play him in midfield is defensive suicide.

I have given a lot of thought to Sunday's line up and come up with:-

                                                 Schwarzer

                              Reither         ?          Hangeland           ?

                                   ?          Enoh             ?                   ?

                                                    ?              ?


Just can't fill in the blanks for fear of a repeat of the Reading performance.


Arthur

Quote from: jmh on May 10, 2013, 05:28:21 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on May 10, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
Nothing is ever a concern for Jol

Like, how 2 days before the transfer window closed, Dembele leaving was not a concern because no one could match his buy out claus
This is incorrect.  The story went that Jol didn't actually realize that Dembele had a buyout clause (which is also a misstep on his part), not that he didn't think anyone would meet it.

Disagree. If there were rumours about such a clause on the Offal a couple of weeks before Dembele departed, Jol must have known before the day of Spurs' bid. As the club were powerless to stop Dembele from leaving once such a bid had been made, I can see why Jol would state that he wasn't concerned; it was simply a ploy of bravado. And why not?

alfie

Quote from: rusty shackleford on May 10, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
Nothing is ever a concern for Jol

Like, how 2 days before the transfer window closed, Dembele leaving was not a concern because no one could match his buy out claus

You of course have ignored that fact Dembele said he would be staying for another season, Jol was not concerned because there had been no bids for him, and it was the club that agreed to the deal not Jol.
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