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Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« on: November 10, 2014, 04:08:09 PM »
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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2014, 04:09:50 PM »
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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2014, 04:15:20 PM »
Past his sell by im afraid...Happens to them all.


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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2014, 04:38:20 PM »
I doubt that it's form related. He's playing fine as far as I know.

However, his age, status within the US roster and the fact that his team is still in contention for MLS Cup ( Seattle has a playoff game tonight vs Dallas ), likely is the largest factor.

Deandre Yedlin from the Sounders is of course included, but he's a young one and not fully established in the National Team.

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2014, 05:28:12 PM »
US Soccer's selection statement notes that Chris Wondolowski (who was called up) was training with Fulham last week.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster

This probably doesn't mean anything other than that Wondo needed a place to train (his season's over).

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2014, 05:52:35 PM »
Shame I was hoping to see him Friday. Never mind I'll just make do with Jurgen


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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2014, 08:10:13 PM »
US Soccer's selection statement notes that Chris Wondolowski (who was called up) was training with Fulham last week.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster

This probably doesn't mean anything other than that Wondo needed a place to train (his season's over).


Lets hope that he just needed a place to train. He has a big heart but little talent. Imagine a smaller EJ with less pace.

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2014, 08:22:33 PM »
Past his sell by im afraid...Happens to them all.

You guys are a laugh.

He's not in the squad because he's fighting for his third team trophy THIS SEASON.

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2014, 08:25:28 PM »
Past his sell by im afraid...Happens to them all.

You guys are a laugh.

He's not in the squad because he's fighting for his third team trophy THIS SEASON.



Give it up Don. Being the most prolific scorer in Fulham's top flight life isn't and will never be enough for some.


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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2014, 08:27:41 PM »
Past his sell by im afraid...Happens to them all.

You guys are a laugh.

He's not in the squad because he's fighting for his third team trophy THIS SEASON.



Give it up Don. Being the most prolific scorer in Fulham's top flight life isn't and will never be enough for some.

Too true!

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2014, 08:40:25 PM »
US Soccer's selection statement notes that Chris Wondolowski (who was called up) was training with Fulham last week.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster

This probably doesn't mean anything other than that Wondo needed a place to train (his season's over).


Lets hope that he just needed a place to train. He has a big heart but little talent. Imagine a smaller EJ with less pace.

Jim, I am going to assume you don't watch much of the MLS, so I'll excuse your ignorance.  I watch every one of Wondo's games and "little" is a bit harsh, I wish I had that little talent...

Goals: 2010 (18), 2011 (16), 2012 (27), 2013 (11) and 2014 (13)
Golden Boot: 2010 & 2012
League MVP: 2012

Even with his "whiff" at the WC, he stood up and took it like a man and made no excuse.

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2014, 08:52:47 PM »
Not surprised but I still plan on watching it. 


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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2014, 09:07:15 PM »
US Soccer's selection statement notes that Chris Wondolowski (who was called up) was training with Fulham last week.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster

This probably doesn't mean anything other than that Wondo needed a place to train (his season's over).


Lets hope that he just needed a place to train. He has a big heart but little talent. Imagine a smaller EJ with less pace.

Jim, I am going to assume you don't watch much of the MLS, so I'll excuse your ignorance.  I watch every one of Wondo's games and "little" is a bit harsh, I wish I had that little talent...

Goals: 2010 (18), 2011 (16), 2012 (27), 2013 (11) and 2014 (13)
Golden Boot: 2010 & 2012
League MVP: 2012

Even with his "whiff" at the WC, he stood up and took it like a man and made no excuse.
:plus one:  He's a natural finisher.  I'd take him in a heartbeat. 

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2014, 09:26:34 PM »
I've watched almost every minute Wondo has played in the last 3 years.  He's not an incredibly technical player, even by MLS standards.  He's got very good off-the-ball movement, and superb balance and agility -- he ends up in the right place at the right time, and is always ready to strike.  He also scores more with his head than you'd expect.

He really create much with the ball at his feet, but he can hold up a bit.  He also has an enormous work ethic and is probably a pretty good influence on younger kids.  Unlike some, I don't think he'd expect to get that many minutes, since nobody has ever really considered him a serious candidate for playing in Europe.

I would be surprised if he started for us, but I think he'd be valuable on the bench.

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2014, 09:59:23 PM »
US Soccer's selection statement notes that Chris Wondolowski (who was called up) was training with Fulham last week.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/11/10/08/44/141110-mnt-klinsmann-names-roster

This probably doesn't mean anything other than that Wondo needed a place to train (his season's over).


Lets hope that he just needed a place to train. He has a big heart but little talent. Imagine a smaller EJ with less pace.

Jim. Come on now. Wondo is a poachers poacher. It's a huge talent that has made careers for many. You don't need him to be the fastest. You need him to be around the goal when the ball is put in. That's is.

Not saying he would be a good signing for us or not but, to say he lacks talent is wrong. He's a natural finisher and absolutely knows where to be in and around the penalty area.


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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2014, 10:19:19 PM »
Looks as if I riled the MLS crowd. I can't get "the wiff" against Belgium off my mind. Too be honest, I have mostly only seen him at the National level and he just seems he is out of his depth against the better teams. Fulham can't afford the luxury of a player who just stands around the opponents box and waits for service. As prime example, I offer you Berbatov. Sure, Wondo runs his butt off but he wouldn't outrun center backs in the Championship much less the Prem. Besides, if Dempsey couldn't make some on here happy, what on earth would they say about Wondo?

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2014, 10:45:52 PM »
Looks as if I riled the MLS crowd. I can't get "the wiff" against Belgium off my mind. Too be honest, I have mostly only seen him at the National level and he just seems he is out of his depth against the better teams. Fulham can't afford the luxury of a player who just stands around the opponents box and waits for service. As prime example, I offer you Berbatov. Sure, Wondo runs his butt off but he wouldn't outrun center backs in the Championship much less the Prem. Besides, if Dempsey couldn't make some on here happy, what on earth would they say about Wondo?
I think he made most people on here happy in his first spell with us but a lot of people unhappy in his second spell and also his manner of departure to Spurs.

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2014, 10:58:47 PM »
Looks as if I riled the MLS crowd. I can't get "the wiff" against Belgium off my mind. Too be honest, I have mostly only seen him at the National level and he just seems he is out of his depth against the better teams. Fulham can't afford the luxury of a player who just stands around the opponents box and waits for service. As prime example, I offer you Berbatov. Sure, Wondo runs his butt off but he wouldn't outrun center backs in the Championship much less the Prem. Besides, if Dempsey couldn't make some on here happy, what on earth would they say about Wondo?

So CBs in MLS are slower than CBs in the Championship?

He doesn't have to run faster, just smarter. Wondo is no Berbatov. Sure, nowhere near as talented but, works his socks off for the team. That'll trump talent all day long.

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2014, 11:02:23 PM »
Looks as if I riled the MLS crowd. I can't get "the wiff" against Belgium off my mind. Too be honest, I have mostly only seen him at the National level and he just seems he is out of his depth against the better teams. Fulham can't afford the luxury of a player who just stands around the opponents box and waits for service. As prime example, I offer you Berbatov. Sure, Wondo runs his butt off but he wouldn't outrun center backs in the Championship much less the Prem. Besides, if Dempsey couldn't make some on here happy, what on earth would they say about Wondo?
I think he made most people on here happy in his first spell with us but a lot of people unhappy in his second spell and also his manner of departure to Spurs.

That's old news for sure. His last little stretch was a waste of time and money. It did help get him ready for the WC but Fulham got nothing out of it. As to the way he went to Spurs, he should have just said that Fulham was only a stepping stone like Dembele said and he would still be loved. Truth be told, I suspect both he & Dembele wished they had stayed.

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Re: Dempsey not in Klinsmann's 23 for break
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2014, 11:07:05 PM »
Looks as if I riled the MLS crowd. I can't get "the wiff" against Belgium off my mind. Too be honest, I have mostly only seen him at the National level and he just seems he is out of his depth against the better teams. Fulham can't afford the luxury of a player who just stands around the opponents box and waits for service. As prime example, I offer you Berbatov. Sure, Wondo runs his butt off but he wouldn't outrun center backs in the Championship much less the Prem. Besides, if Dempsey couldn't make some on here happy, what on earth would they say about Wondo?

So CBs in MLS are slower than CBs in the Championship?

He doesn't have to run faster, just smarter. Wondo is no Berbatov. Sure, nowhere near as talented but, works his socks off for the team. That'll trump talent all day long.


I think this is getting to the point where we agree to disagree. Wondo is one of those guys who plays unselfishly for the team but he needs to be on the pitch a lot to show it. I don't think he'd be an impact sub. As to speed. running smart is all well and good but if your opponent is faster, he can catch back up with you after he is beaten.