Lineup for Burnley

[WhiteJC]

my team against Burnley

Fabri

Christie     Ream     Le Marchand     Bryan

Cairney     Anguissa     Seri

AK     Mitro     Sess

subs: Rico, Fosu-Mensah, Chambers, McDonald, Johansen, Schurrle, Vietto

I thought Fabri did OK against Spurs so I think he'll get the start
Christie & Ream(if fit) for Fosu-Mensah & Chambers
the midfield looked good, a bit harsh on KMac but you don't pay £20-£30 million and leave Anguissa on the bench especially after his good performance against Spurs
I'd revert Sess back to the left side and keep AK on the right, Mitro must be the first name on the team sheet

[Facts Not Fiction]

my team against Burnley

Fabri

Christie     Ream     Le Marchand     Bryan

Cairney     Anguissa     Seri

AK     Mitro     Sess

subs: Rico, Fosu-Mensah, Chambers, McDonald, Johansen, Schurrle, Vietto

I thought Fabri did OK against Spurs so I think he'll get the start
Christie & Ream(if fit) for Fosu-Mensah & Chambers
the midfield looked good, a bit harsh on KMac but you don't pay £20-£30 million and leave Anguissa on the bench especially after his good performance against Spurs
I'd revert Sess back to the left side and keep AK on the right, Mitro must be the first name on the team sheet

Playing Ream as the RCB is a bad move IMO. Le Marchand has earned his place during Ream's injury, and Chambers has made mistakes, but until Mawson is fit, I would try not to chance the defence much.

Playing a left footed CB at RCB isn't often successful. The Celta home game showed it.

[Lighthouse]

I think Christie did well in the first match and would like to see him back. I am not happy with Chambers and have said so but I do understand the argument for keeping him there again. I would keep Kamara who adds so much more when we are going forward and I would hope we would do so more against Burnley than against Spuds although Burnley have proved a very good side.

My only other question mark is Sess. He looks a little out of his depth but would still keep him in.

[Woolly Mammoth]

If anyone is foolhardy to think that Burnley will be any easier than our first two matches must think again. Yes they will be playing tomorrow night plus the travelling.
I think everyone is sensible enough to know that each match is a different challenge, and we will have to earn every point.
But we do stand a chance v Burnley, and I would only want minimal changes, if any.
Familiarity is the key, and the manager has to try and show confidence in players who played at Wembley v Spurs, that was no picnic.
But we also have competition for places. We obviously would like to see a marked improvement after another weeks training together, and performances will be under scrutiny as well as a much desired result, just to get points on the board to build on.
Sometimes tinkering around for the sake of it can be counter productive, having said that, your damned if you do and dammed if you don't.
At least Slavisa has a decent choice to choose from, but Sean Dyche is a Wily Old Fox, and sets his stall out very well, I am sure Slavisa will have a good think about his line up, especially after back to back defeats.

[Twig]

Bettinelli
Christie - Ream/Odoi - Le Marchand - Bryan
Cairney - Anguissa - Seri
Schürrle - Mitrovic - Sessegnon

Agree 100%

[bencher]

In response to the posts about keeping Chambers in the team for fear of meddling with the defence - this has to be a pretty weak argument.

Chambers was at fault (to greater and lesser degrees) for Palace's first goal, and Spurs' first and third goals.

It's not like we scraped by with him in; we lost both games! If you don't drop a player in these circumstances, when do you?

I hate to say I told you so, but when he was signed I wrote on the Silly Season thread that I didn't think much of his defending.

[Statto]

In response to the posts about keeping Chambers in the team for fear of meddling with the defence - this has to be a pretty weak argument.

Chambers was at fault (to greater and lesser degrees) for Palace's first goal, and Spurs' first and third goals.

It's not like we scraped by with him in; we lost both games! If you don't drop a player in these circumstances, when do you?

I hate to say I told you so, but when he was signed I wrote on the Silly Season thread that I didn't think much of his defending.

For me part of the reason is that in that position, assuming Ream is still unavailable, the replacement is still likely to be another pretty poor (by PL standards) centre back. But also you totally unsettle the whole back 5.

So if the replacement is Odoi, sorry but he's a short full-back who i never wanted to see at CB for us at this level, and he's never played a competitive game with Fabri, Bryan or MLM. In that context even a poor Chambers gets my vote because he's probably no worse, and may well improve now he's had a couple of games to adapt.

To turn your question on it's head, Chambers has only had 2 games at this club, with 2 different DMs in front of him and 2 different RBs alongside him in each game - if you don't give the lad some lattitude in those circumstances, when do you?

Also by your logic shouldn't we also drop Fabri for the second Palace goal and Anguissa for the second Spurs goal?   

[Mullers OG]

Fabri

Fosu-Mensah  Chambers  LeM  Bryan

Anguissa  Cairney  Seri

Ayite (if fit, Schurrle if not)  Mito  Sess

Bench -  Rico/Betts,  Odoi, Christie, McDonald, Johansen, Ream, Vietto

[MrFFC]

Ream still unavailable due to injury joined by Ayite. Mawson to miss this game but return to action against Exeter

[ByTheRiver]

Chambers the less of two evils at this stage (until Ream or Mawson are back) so, for me, same team as against Spurs but with Schurrle in for AK (AK much more effective from the bench).

COYW!

[Riversider]

If anyone is foolhardy to think that Burnley will be any easier than our first two matches must think again. Yes they will be playing tomorrow night plus the travelling.
I think everyone is sensible enough to know that each match is a different challenge, and we will have to earn every point.
But we do stand a chance v Burnley, and I would only want minimal changes, if any.
Familiarity is the key, and the manager has to try and show confidence in players who played at Wembley v Spurs, that was no picnic.
But we also have competition for places. We obviously would like to see a marked improvement after another weeks training together, and performances will be under scrutiny as well as a much desired result, just to get points on the board to build on.
Sometimes tinkering around for the sake of it can be counter productive, having said that, your damned if you do and dammed if you don't.
At least Slavisa has a decent choice to choose from, but Sean Dyche is a Wily Old Fox, and sets his stall out very well, I am sure Slavisa will have a good think about his line up, especially after back to back defeats.

Burnley are currently on a dreadful run of one win in 8 in the league, which is relegation form, dress it up however you like, this is a winnable game.

[twang]

Chambers the less of two evils at this stage (until Ream or Mawson are back) so, for me, same team as against Spurs but with Schurrle in for AK (AK much more effective from the bench).

COYW!

One of those evils dominated Chris Wood away to Leeds last season, just for the record.

[ByTheRiver]

Chambers the less of two evils at this stage (until Ream or Mawson are back) so, for me, same team as against Spurs but with Schurrle in for AK (AK much more effective from the bench).

COYW!

One of those evils dominated Chris Wood away to Leeds last season, just for the record.

So you'd drop Odoi (a natural fullback) in to a back four, three of which he's not played a single game with, in a match which I think almost everyone would term a 'must not lose' (if not a 'must win')?

[snarks]

Chambers the less of two evils at this stage (until Ream or Mawson are back) so, for me, same team as against Spurs but with Schurrle in for AK (AK much more effective from the bench).

COYW!

One of those evils dominated Chris Wood away to Leeds last season, just for the record.

So you'd drop Odoi (a natural fullback) in to a back four, three of which he's not played a single game with, in a match which I think almost everyone would term a 'must not lose' (if not a 'must win')?

Personally no.... I'll let Slav chose the team for this one  :005:

[Tabby]

Chambers the less of two evils at this stage (until Ream or Mawson are back) so, for me, same team as against Spurs but with Schurrle in for AK (AK much more effective from the bench).

COYW!

One of those evils dominated Chris Wood away to Leeds last season, just for the record.

So you'd drop Odoi (a natural fullback) in to a back four, three of which he's not played a single game with, in a match which I think almost everyone would term a 'must not lose' (if not a 'must win')?

There are people arguing that the person Odoi pushed out of the team would be a better option to Chambers, so I think there are a few arguing that.

[twang]

Chambers the less of two evils at this stage (until Ream or Mawson are back) so, for me, same team as against Spurs but with Schurrle in for AK (AK much more effective from the bench).

COYW!

One of those evils dominated Chris Wood away to Leeds last season, just for the record.

So you'd drop Odoi (a natural fullback) in to a back four, three of which he's not played a single game with, in a match which I think almost everyone would term a 'must not lose' (if not a 'must win')?

Yep. Odoi is a central defender for us now, he got into and stayed in our team on merit. He's also played with Christie and Le Marchand before and, more importantly, trained with them longer than Chambers.

[Southcoastffc]

If anyone is foolhardy to think that Burnley will be any easier than our first two matches must think again. Yes they will be playing tomorrow night plus the travelling.
I think everyone is sensible enough to know that each match is a different challenge, and we will have to earn every point.
But we do stand a chance v Burnley, and I would only want minimal changes, if any.
Familiarity is the key, and the manager has to try and show confidence in players who played at Wembley v Spurs, that was no picnic.
But we also have competition for places. We obviously would like to see a marked improvement after another weeks training together, and performances will be under scrutiny as well as a much desired result, just to get points on the board to build on.
Sometimes tinkering around for the sake of it can be counter productive, having said that, your damned if you do and dammed if you don't.
At least Slavisa has a decent choice to choose from, but Sean Dyche is a Wily Old Fox, and sets his stall out very well, I am sure Slavisa will have a good think about his line up, especially after back to back defeats.

Burnley are currently on a dreadful run of one win in 8 in the league, which is relegation form, dress it up however you like, this is a winnable game.

1. Athens to London is roughly only a 4 hour flight - Burnley may come straight 'here' and will not be travelling economy!
2. In Roy's day we did Thursday/Sunday regularly with a squad of arguably more ordinary players than Burnley have. Without fuss, without complaining, with good results and team ethos.
3.One win in 8, and Kane never scores in August.  We are adept at helping others to break losing streaks.  Fulhamish.
4. All games are winnable. 

[filham]

                                                                Betts
                             Christie            Odoi                  Ream               Sess
                                                            Mc Donald
                                             Johansen                          Cairney
                          Kamara                           Mitrovic                             Kebano

Subs:-    Le Mercharde, Chambers, Brian, Schurle, Seri , Fonti.

Go back as near as possible to last season's winning team and make the new players earn their places by putting in good showings as subs.

[Deeping_white]

                                                                Betts
                             Christie            Odoi                  Ream               Sess
                                                            Mc Donald
                                             Johansen                          Cairney
                          Kamara                           Mitrovic                             Kebano

Subs:-    Le Mercharde, Chambers, Brian, Schurle, Seri , Fonti.

Go back as near as possible to last season's winning team and make the new players earn their places by putting in good showings as subs.

Ah yes let's attempt to get relegated by playing last years team and leave out all the really good players when a fair few of them have already proven they should be starting. The fact you'd drop Seri, MLM and Bryan straight off is amusing but playing Odoi is suicide, as well as the fact that Ream isn't fit enough to play. Oh and Sess at left back, we saw how well that went against Palace so sure let's revert to that. You've also not included our best holding midfielder in your team so how's he supposed to get back in the team when he shouldn't even be out of it. Just because a team can win in one league, doesn't mean it's fit for purpose in a better league

[Statto]

I will have a £50 bet with anyone who wants it right now that Odoi doesn't start a single league game as CB under Jokanovic