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Team against West Ham - Saturday 15/12/18

Started by WhiteJC, December 11, 2018, 09:13:53 AM

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Matt10

Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on December 12, 2018, 08:03:46 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on December 12, 2018, 07:10:01 PM
We're going to composure in the midfield against West Ham. So I'm somewhat recreating our 3 midfield of Cairney and Johansen on opposite sides. West Ham have playmakers, now we do too, with a destroyer in Chambers to play that KMac role. The key will be Kamara and Sess tucking central, and forward, when we're in the attack. We can also do many things with this formation, from slotting to a 4-4-2 with our Chambers and Johansen covering the wings, similar to what we do already. I want to keep Mawson at LCB, and put MLM at RCB where he's played for Nice before. I hate to keep Mitro isolated, but he will have many options in 5-man midfield.

4-5-1

                          Rico

Christie      MLM        Mawson     Bryan

Kamara   Chambers  Cairney  Johansen  Sess

                        Mitro 

Subs: Betts, Schurrle, Cisse, KMac, Seri, Vietto, Odoi

Left footed CB at RCB is often a formula for failure.

Thankfully MLM's right foot is pretty good. He's played RB and RCB for Nice before.

Moltobueno

Quote from: Matt10 on December 12, 2018, 08:42:32 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on December 12, 2018, 08:03:46 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on December 12, 2018, 07:10:01 PM
We're going to composure in the midfield against West Ham. So I'm somewhat recreating our 3 midfield of Cairney and Johansen on opposite sides. West Ham have playmakers, now we do too, with a destroyer in Chambers to play that KMac role. The key will be Kamara and Sess tucking central, and forward, when we're in the attack. We can also do many things with this formation, from slotting to a 4-4-2 with our Chambers and Johansen covering the wings, similar to what we do already. I want to keep Mawson at LCB, and put MLM at RCB where he's played for Nice before. I hate to keep Mitro isolated, but he will have many options in 5-man midfield.

4-5-1

                          Rico

Christie      MLM        Mawson     Bryan

Kamara   Chambers  Cairney  Johansen  Sess

                        Mitro 

Subs: Betts, Schurrle, Cisse, KMac, Seri, Vietto, Odoi

Left footed CB at RCB is often a formula for failure.

Thankfully MLM's right foot is pretty good. He's played RB and RCB for Nice before.

So far he hasn't made a single pass with right foot IMO. Always trying to set the ball onto his left foot.

The Rational Fan

#22
Quote from: Moltobueno on December 13, 2018, 06:46:21 AM
Quote from: Matt10 on December 12, 2018, 08:42:32 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on December 12, 2018, 08:03:46 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on December 12, 2018, 07:10:01 PM
We're going to composure in the midfield against West Ham. So I'm somewhat recreating our 3 midfield of Cairney and Johansen on opposite sides. West Ham have playmakers, now we do too, with a destroyer in Chambers to play that KMac role. The key will be Kamara and Sess tucking central, and forward, when we're in the attack. We can also do many things with this formation, from slotting to a 4-4-2 with our Chambers and Johansen covering the wings, similar to what we do already. I want to keep Mawson at LCB, and put MLM at RCB where he's played for Nice before. I hate to keep Mitro isolated, but he will have many options in 5-man midfield.

4-5-1

                          Rico

Christie      MLM        Mawson     Bryan

Kamara   Chambers  Cairney  Johansen  Sess

                        Mitro 

Subs: Betts, Schurrle, Cisse, KMac, Seri, Vietto, Odoi

Left footed CB at RCB is often a formula for failure.

Thankfully MLM's right foot is pretty good. He's played RB and RCB for Nice before.

So far he hasn't made a single pass with right foot IMO. Always trying to set the ball onto his left foot.

If we are talking about MLM being the first choice "right centre back" without any centre back injuries, then we need to start shopping now for 1st January 2019 purchase, because no player should be playing regularly in his third choice position (after LCB and LB).


alfie

Quote from: F.luke on December 12, 2018, 08:08:14 PM
Rather have a carthorse giving 100% than a someone that doesn't give a dam
And you know he doesn't give a dam HOW?,
Story of my life
"I was looking back to see if she was looking back to see if i was looking back at her"
Sadly she wasn't

The Rational Fan

Quote from: alfie on December 13, 2018, 08:22:23 AM
Quote from: F.luke on December 12, 2018, 08:08:14 PM
Rather have a carthorse giving 100% than a someone that doesn't give a dam
And you know he doesn't give a dam HOW?,

If the fans are looking for someone that shows he gives a damn, then you can find your centre midfielder at the "Guildford School of Acting".

Matt10

Quote from: Moltobueno on December 13, 2018, 06:46:21 AM
Quote from: Matt10 on December 12, 2018, 08:42:32 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on December 12, 2018, 08:03:46 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on December 12, 2018, 07:10:01 PM
We're going to composure in the midfield against West Ham. So I'm somewhat recreating our 3 midfield of Cairney and Johansen on opposite sides. West Ham have playmakers, now we do too, with a destroyer in Chambers to play that KMac role. The key will be Kamara and Sess tucking central, and forward, when we're in the attack. We can also do many things with this formation, from slotting to a 4-4-2 with our Chambers and Johansen covering the wings, similar to what we do already. I want to keep Mawson at LCB, and put MLM at RCB where he's played for Nice before. I hate to keep Mitro isolated, but he will have many options in 5-man midfield.

4-5-1

                          Rico

Christie      MLM        Mawson     Bryan

Kamara   Chambers  Cairney  Johansen  Sess

                        Mitro 

Subs: Betts, Schurrle, Cisse, KMac, Seri, Vietto, Odoi

Left footed CB at RCB is often a formula for failure.

Thankfully MLM's right foot is pretty good. He's played RB and RCB for Nice before.

So far he hasn't made a single pass with right foot IMO. Always trying to set the ball onto his left foot.

Hm, that's incorrect, but I have no footage right at the time of this post to show otherwise. I do remember he played a threading pass through a crowd to Sess' foot. It stuck out to me because it was well driven and with his right foot.

Obviously, this set up is not just to address the passing, but it is also helpful to to contain the likes of Anderson and Snodgrass from cutting inside and shooting. Both players scored against Palace by cutting inside and shooting with their stronger foot. Any defender knows that you have a higher chance of blocking a shot by opening your body up versus closing it off and turning your back. Dennis Odoi's attempt at blocking Ashley Young's shot this past weekend is a good example where he chose to try to block with the outside of his right foot versus opening up his left side to square up and provide a bigger obstacle for the shot to go through.


Mince n Tatties

#26
Stannard

Herrera
Angus
Eckhart
Pike

McAree
Morgan
Cusack
Walker

Freeman
Conroy

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FinFFC

                        Rico
          Odoi     Mawson    Le Marchand
Christie  Chambers   KMac    Sessegnon
                      Cairney
                AK47           Mitro

Facts Not Fiction

Given the team news:

Rico

Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan

Chambers Seri

Kamara Cairney Sessegnon

Mitrovic

Bettinelli, Ream, TFM, McDonald, Johansen, Ayite, Schurrle


filham

Quote from: WhiteJC on December 11, 2018, 09:13:53 AM
after the 1st half horror show against ManU the team played much better in the 2nd half, also getting a second goal in two games AK47 must have earned a starting place. Seri needs some time on the bench, he's a better player than we've seen so far, its just not working at the moment.

Rico

Christie          Odoi          Mawson          Bryan

Chambers          KMac

AK47          Cairney          Sessegnon

Mitro

Subs: Betts, Ream, MLM, Cisse, Seri, Shurrle
It is getting hard to select a team, so many failures and we are now aware that not only have we problems in the back four but that our midfield is being overrun.

I think this selection is possibly the best with K. Mac in place of Seri and AK47 in to provide pace , muscle and enthusiasm.

Vinnieffc

Quote from: FFC1987 on December 11, 2018, 09:55:52 AM
                        Rico

Odoi          Le Marchand          Mawson          Bryan

                    Chambers         

AK47           Seri     Cairney          Sessegnon

                          Mitro


I'd go with this.

This exactly. Good call 87..

Mullers OG

Rico

Christie  Odoi  Mawson   Bryan

Seri  Chambers  Cairney

Ayite  Mitro  Sess

Bench:  Betts,  Ream, Johansen, De la Torre, Schurrle, TFM, Cisse


FulForce


AnOldBrownie

Quote from: Statto on December 11, 2018, 09:47:50 AM
Rico

Christie          Odoi          Mawson          MLM

Chambers          Seri

AK47          Cairney          Sessegnon

Mitro

This is the obvious lineup.     Claudio thinks too highly of Seri, and MLM..until proven otherwise...is defensively better than Joe Bryan.


He's probably done on our squad, but I'd love to see Timothy Fosu-Mensah get some time in Chamber's CDM spot.     Chambers isn't going to play every game playing as hard as he does, and if Claudio is going to insist on playing Seri there is going to need to be an aggressive defender in the back beside him.

I'd also prefer we play a 4-4-2 with AK47 up top with Mitro...but I know that will never happen.


KJS

I think MLM is out injured?

I would play:                             RICO

           Christie                Odoi                  Mawson     Bryan
                             
                                   Chambers           Seri

                          AK                  Cairney          Ayite

                                                   Mitro

Subs: Betts, Fosu-Mensa, Sessegnon, Shurrle, Johnanson, Cisse, Vietto

       


JoelH5

I was there, standing in the Putney end

JoelH5

Quote from: Mullers OG on December 14, 2018, 04:34:29 PM
Rico

Christie  Odoi  Mawson   Bryan

Seri  Chambers  Cairney

Ayite  Mitro  Sess

Bench:  Betts,  Ream, Johansen, De la Torre, Schurrle, TFM, Cisse

Just out of interest, why is AK not in your team or subs?
I was there, standing in the Putney end

Brawn

GK 25 S Rico

RB 22 C Christie
RCB 4 D Odoi
LCB 26 A Mawson
LB 23 J Bryan

RM 14 A Schurrle
RCM 5 C Chambers
LCM 10 T Cairney
LM 3 R Sessegnon

RS 47 A Kamara
LS 9 A Mitrovic

Subs:
1 M Bettinelli
6 K McDonald
8 S Johansen
11 F Ayite
13 T Ream
19 L Vietto
24 J Seri


fulhamben

Quote from: Brawn on December 14, 2018, 06:37:08 PM
GK 25 S Rico

RB 22 C Christie
RCB 4 D Odoi
LCB 26 A Mawson
LB 23 J Bryan

RM 14 A Schurrle
RCM 5 C Chambers
LCM 10 T Cairney
LM 3 R Sessegnon

RS 47 A Kamara
LS 9 A Mitrovic

Subs:
1 M Bettinelli
6 K McDonald
8 S Johansen
11 F Ayite
13 T Ream
19 L Vietto
24 J Seri
schurrle playing wide right in front of Christie scares me a lot. Schurrle should never play in a position where he is required to defend.
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.

Jimmy Hill

                      Rico

Christie Chambers Mawson Bryan

          StefJO   KMac  Cainey

Kamara       Mitro       Sessegnon