Schurrle - Is he really sick?

[General]

Reckon his omission from matchday squads is because he's publicly declared how he's not used to struggling in a relegation battle, usually competes higher up the table and also how if we got relegated he wouldn't stay at the club and would look to move somewhere else. In a relegation battle you need people who are focused on the job at hand and care enough to put in reliable work. He didn't seem to, despite his clear abilities - being that openly disrespectful towards the club and to other players who may want to try harder or who do care just isn't healthy to A) keep around and B) reward.

[Twig]

His comments relating to his elevated ability etc. Were certainly ill advised and I wouldn't be surprised if he has been marginalised as a result.  Pity really, for all his annoying lack of any defensive ability (or inclination), he was useful going forward and chipped in with more goals than most in support of Mitro.

[ToodlesMcToot]

Mono, though it's generally associated with younger folks, can put one down for a month or more. There are other viral infections that have similar impacts, I'm sure.

[General]

His comments relating to his elevated ability etc. Were certainly ill advised and I wouldn't be surprised if he has been marginalised as a result.  Pity really, for all his annoying lack of any defensive ability (or inclination), he was useful going forward and chipped in with more goals than most in support of Mitro.

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[Sting of the North]

Reckon his omission from matchday squads is because he's publicly declared how he's not used to struggling in a relegation battle, usually competes higher up the table and also how if we got relegated he wouldn't stay at the club and would look to move somewhere else. In a relegation battle you need people who are focused on the job at hand and care enough to put in reliable work. He didn't seem to, despite his clear abilities - being that openly disrespectful towards the club and to other players who may want to try harder or who do care just isn't healthy to A) keep around and B) reward.

This would then imply that people from the club, Parker included, are outright lying about why he is not in the squad. If that is the case, why would they do that?

[MikeW]

Remember the game v Chelsea in December?  BBC interviewed him for Football Focus, all the talk of wanting to score a hat trick for us, media all over it.  Come the day, .... never happened, not in team.  Wind up merchant.  Big time Charlie.  Not going his way? Disappears.

[filham]

I thought he was on a 2 year loan deal with us. Does that mean we are stuck with him and he with us for another season.

We have seen a couple of great goals from him but that is about all. Agree that he does not seem the type to roll up his sleeves and get stuck into a relegation battle and similarly I am not sure he would suite us in the championship.

[filham]

Well, his peak fitness is barely enough so it doesn't have to be a bad illiness.

Calpol is all he needs.

I bet he would react better if put to bed with Night Nurse.

[Statto]

Reckon his omission from matchday squads is because he's publicly declared how he's not used to struggling in a relegation battle, usually competes higher up the table and also how if we got relegated he wouldn't stay at the club and would look to move somewhere else. In a relegation battle you need people who are focused on the job at hand and care enough to put in reliable work. He didn't seem to, despite his clear abilities - being that openly disrespectful towards the club and to other players who may want to try harder or who do care just isn't healthy to A) keep around and B) reward.

This would then imply that people from the club, Parker included, are outright lying about why he is not in the squad. If that is the case, why would they do that?

I don't think it unusual or unethical to hide an awkward or controversial situation. I think it's both standard practice, and best practice, in these sort of circumstances, and lots of other aspects of life. Like how McCormack was mysteriously injured just before signing a new contract in the January transfer window a few years ago.Or like an employer saying a colleague has left for "personal reasons" rather than been sacked due to drink problem. 

Something else no one appears to have mentioned is Schurrle and his girlfriend are expecting a baby, which may also have affected how much he can bothered to stay here in the rain losing football matches every week

[Matt10]

If he had zero goals to his name, then sure, I'd not think much of him. However, he's our second leader in goals. That's the fact. I'd gladly have him one-on-one with the keeper than someone who hasn't scored yet this season. In a position where we need goals more than anything in this world, and our second in goal scoring is injured/sick, I look at that as unfortunate more than some convoluted conspiracy theory that only serves to validate narratives and speculations that no one can prove.

[Woolly Mammoth]

For most of the games he turned up for, he never played a full 90 minutes, a passenger in every game including the ones he scored in.
Poor application by him, a classic big time Charlie who thought he was doing Fulham a wonderful favour, that did not have an ounce of fight in him.

[Matt10]

For most of the games he turned up for, he never played a full 90 minutes, a passenger in every game including the ones he scored in.
Poor application by him, a classic big time Charlie who thought he was doing Fulham a wonderful favour, that did not have an ounce of fight in him.

Uh huh. Could've had 3 assists in 2 matches, first for Mitro 2x against Wolves, then Sess wide open against Arsenal.

Could have not dropped back deep into our box against Spurs where Trippier was through on goal, but Schurrle managed to clear the ball away at the last second. Same against Burnley where he dropped all the way back to again clear the ball at the last second when Wood was through on goal.

I agree, he's a sub waiting to happen. However, again, he's scored important goals for us. Without his goal against Southampton, we are only tying them 2-2 for example. Passenger? Think that's harsh, however the man needing convincing remains unconvinced - so there's no point really to defend him.

I will say that when he's healthy, I'm excited to see him in Parker's system. Especially where Parker requires the outside mids to drop all the way back, so people can finally put the rest that Schurrle doesn't drop back because he chooses not to - but because the system is designed that way.

[Woolly Mammoth]

Schurrie is milky, and doesn't punch his weight.
One thing I cannot stand are players who hide under a blade of grass when the going gets tough, deliberately stands next to an opponent so a team mate can't pass to him. Slows down when there is a 50/50 ball to win, so the opponent gets there first.
It's like playing with ten men.
He is guilty as charged.

[hovewhite]

I don't care!!

[Woolly Mammoth]

Danny Care is an England Rugby Union International Player.

[Matt10]

Schurrie is milky, and doesn't punch his weight.
One thing I cannot stand are players who hide under a blade of grass when the going gets tough, deliberately stands next to an opponent so a team mate can't pass to him. Slows down when there is a 50/50 ball to win, so the opponent gets there first.
It's like playing with ten men.
He is guilty as charged.

That's a first. In what match did this occur? Genuinely curious because if we're seeing it, why wouldn't the coach punish accordingly?

[Woolly Mammoth]

Schurrie is milky, and doesn't punch his weight.
One thing I cannot stand are players who hide under a blade of grass when the going gets tough, deliberately stands next to an opponent so a team mate can't pass to him. Slows down when there is a 50/50 ball to win, so the opponent gets there first.
It's like playing with ten men.
He is guilty as charged.

That's a first. In what match did this occur? Genuinely curious because if we're seeing it, why wouldn't the coach punish accordingly?

There were more than just one match, he did it every time he took the field of play.
Some of these coaches cannot see their nose in front of them. Other coaches get intimidated by a players reputation.
But I can see what I see, and I saw with my own eyes. He has no heart, and clearly no conscience.

[Matt10]

Schurrie is milky, and doesn't punch his weight.
One thing I cannot stand are players who hide under a blade of grass when the going gets tough, deliberately stands next to an opponent so a team mate can't pass to him. Slows down when there is a 50/50 ball to win, so the opponent gets there first.
It's like playing with ten men.
He is guilty as charged.

That's a first. In what match did this occur? Genuinely curious because if we're seeing it, why wouldn't the coach punish accordingly?

There were more than just one match, he did it every time he took the field of play.
Some of these coaches cannot see their nose in front of them. Other coaches get intimidated by a players reputation.
But I can see what I see, and I saw with my own eyes. He has no heart, and clearly no conscience.

Agree to disagree, but I can understand how you can make that judgement. He doesn't play how you want him to, therefore he's lazy, has no heart and no conscience. I would assume then when he is trying to rile up the fans it's just an act and self-absorbed way to rile himself up instead. Those 6 goals he's scored for us are all for him, and his interview that follows saying "it doesn't matter if we don't win" against Burnley is again just an act.

Schurrle can't win. Even if he's genuinely sick, he's somehow devised a super secret plan to avoid training time and high pressure matches I guess as well. What a mastermind.

[Twig]

Schurrie is milky, and doesn't punch his weight.
One thing I cannot stand are players who hide under a blade of grass when the going gets tough, deliberately stands next to an opponent so a team mate can't pass to him. Slows down when there is a 50/50 ball to win, so the opponent gets there first.
It's like playing with ten men.
He is guilty as charged.

That's a first. In what match did this occur? Genuinely curious because if we're seeing it, why wouldn't the coach punish accordingly?

There were more than just one match, he did it every time he took the field of play.
Some of these coaches cannot see their nose in front of them. Other coaches get intimidated by a players reputation.
But I can see what I see, and I saw with my own eyes. He has no heart, and clearly no conscience.

Agree to disagree, but I can understand how you can make that judgement. He doesn't play how you want him to, therefore he's lazy, has no heart and no conscience. I would assume then when he is trying to rile up the fans it's just an act and self-absorbed way to rile himself up instead. Those 6 goals he's scored for us are all for him, and his interview that follows saying "it doesn't matter if we don't win" against Burnley is again just an act.

Schurrle can't win. Even if he's genuinely sick, he's somehow devised a super secret plan to avoid training time and high pressure matches I guess as well. What a mastermind.

Whether Wooly likes it or not he's comfotably our second highest scorer. Who else chips in with anything like his goals per minute ratio? That said he's an enigma; awful tracking back and defending so some say he's "milky" which presumably means cowardly?  I'm not sure, he's certainly decent going forward and rubbish defending, I just hesitate to use that to judge him so heavily and brand him a coward.

[Woolly Mammoth]

I am pleased we all agree then, Schurrie is a sick
note on and off the pitch.