Summer Transfer Gossip.

[Sting of the North]

I will judge Seri in mid-September when all the international transfer windows are closed.

If he's still here, I'll say well done to the lad, be very happy to have such a talented player on our books, and of course I'll get behind him 100%.

If he's gone, I'll treat that conclusive proof that everything Woolly Mammoth says about his character, honour etc is true.

In my opinion, this is setting the bar for 'conclusive proof' on an astoundingly low level. I would be inclined to agree to disagree, but don't think I can do that on something that lacks almost all levels of context. To each their own I guess.

[Deuce]

Martell Taylor-Crossdale and Gary Cahill, both Chelsea, are rumored to join us. Wouldnt say no to Cahill, as long as he drops in wage. We've had some nice experience when signing former England internationals (Parker, Murphy) and having Cahill mentoring Mawson isnt a horrible thought.

[Woolly Mammoth]

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.

Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.

Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.

I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.

As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point

True, the simplest explanation is many players in Fulham Seri, Anguiissa, Cairney and Sessegnon just didn't play as well as last season in 17/18. We shouldn't spend time blaming anyone, just focus on getting them playing their best again, i have seen Anguissa destroy Australia. None of his performances in a Fulham shirt have been anywhere near that standard, but i hope he does.

I was not aware that Anguissa played cricket, and I do not remember him ever destroying Australia, was it at bowling or at batting. It cannot be at football seeing as he could not trap a bag of cement.
Although I acknowledge that his performances recently have shown some improvement, and if he stopped passing the ball to an opponent, which comes under the classification of unforced errors, he may improve a little more.
But he is another one that shows no character or passion, no expression on his boat race, a very robotic expensive player without any character signed on the evidence of stats, and some people wonder why we have gone straight back down.

[70sPimlico]

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.

Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.

Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.

I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.

As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point

True, the simplest explanation is many players in Fulham Seri, Anguiissa, Cairney and Sessegnon just didn't play as well as last season in 17/18. We shouldn't spend time blaming anyone, just focus on getting them playing their best again, i have seen Anguissa destroy Australia. None of his performances in a Fulham shirt have been anywhere near that standard, but i hope he does.

I was not aware that Anguissa played cricket, and I do not remember him ever destroying Australia, was it at bowling or at batting. It cannot be at football seeing as he could not trap a bag of cement.
Although I acknowledge that his performances recently have shown some improvement, and if he stopped passing the ball to an opponent, which comes under the classification of unforced errors, he may improve a little more.
But he is another one that shows no character or passion, no expression on his boat race, a very robotic expensive player without any character signed on the evidence of stats, and some people wonder why we have gone straight back down.

Riiiiight

[Mince n Tatties]

Manure in for 17 goal Lyon Striker Moussa Dembele,valued at £45 mill by his club.

[Nero]

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.

Of course it is hard to prove something is wrong if that something is just a broad and (in my opinion) extremely biased 'assessment' on someone's alleged complete lack of character. It cannot be proven wrong, and it cannot be proven right unless the player himself or others very close to the player (like coaches, teammates etc.) would go on record backing it up. You can however disagree, and offer a different opinion if you so like.

Personally, I haven't seen anything suggesting he tries less than most other players. Does he care for Fulham as much as someone like Sess (who has basically grown up at the club) or Cairney (having been Captain for several seasons)? Most likely not, but this is also not surprising, nor a big problem. Has he performed great? Not in my opinion, but in several games he has been somewhere between ok and good, in others he has been less good and in a few he has been bad. Is he best suited to a really struggling PL team? Not in my opinion based on what I have seen of him so far. Was he a short term (i.e. for this season) good investment for the club? Again, not in my opinion, but that is not his fault.

I am not a big fan of sweeping generalizations against easy targets, and Seri has certainly been a very easy and convenient target for people's frustrations this season.

As was Zambo, until he got a run in the side, started to find his feet and then many people (not all) started to see what he brings, which I believe is an upgrade on one my faves, KMac.
I'm pretty sure this poster will have typed similar stuff on the mental state of Zambo at some point

True, the simplest explanation is many players in Fulham Seri, Anguiissa, Cairney and Sessegnon just didn't play as well as last season in 17/18. We shouldn't spend time blaming anyone, just focus on getting them playing their best again, i have seen Anguissa destroy Australia. None of his performances in a Fulham shirt have been anywhere near that standard, but i hope he does.

I was not aware that Anguissa played cricket, and I do not remember him ever destroying Australia, was it at bowling or at batting. It cannot be at football seeing as he could not trap a bag of cement.
Although I acknowledge that his performances recently have shown some improvement, and if he stopped passing the ball to an opponent, which comes under the classification of unforced errors, he may improve a little more.
But he is another one that shows no character or passion, no expression on his boat race, a very robotic expensive player without any character signed on the evidence of stats, and some people wonder why we have gone straight back down.

Riiiiight

Think the lads been told he has 2 jobs win the ball and pass it to someone better, unfortunately, they didn't make it clear it should be someone on the same team as him

[GJB]

I'd like to see us put offers in for either, or both, Jarrod Bowen and Che Adams. They've both got +20 goals this season, for average championship sides.

At 22 years old, I think these two have good potential with championship experience already under their belt. If we don't sign them, our championship competitors will definitely have them on their radar

[Milo]

I'd like to see us put offers in for either, or both, Jarrod Bowen and Che Adams. They've both got +20 goals this season, for average championship sides.

At 22 years old, I think these two have good potential with championship experience already under their belt. If we don't sign them, our championship competitors will definitely have them on their radar

This is the sort of thing we need to be doing, identifying the Joe Bryan's of the Championship who could make the step up when we go up.

[GJB]

Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season

[filham]

Just hope that those players that are destined to leave do so in the first few weeks of the window in order to enable us to secure considered replacements. The thought of our procurement team running around in ever decreasing circles in the last couple of days of the open window again is frightening.

[The Rational Fan]

Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season

You do realise Tony Khan can say KMac and StefJo cannot leave, he doesn't have to persuade anyone. And frankly, it's the managers problem to keep them motivated if they do stay. Stefjo would be happy to stay provided he gets game time, with a 46 game season and without Chambers in the squad he surely will even if as a regular sub.

[GJB]

Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season

You do realise Tony Khan can say KMac and StefJo cannot leave, he doesn't have to persuade anyone. And frankly, it's the managers problem to keep them motivated if they do stay. Stefjo would be happy to stay provided he gets game time, with a 46 game season and without Chambers in the squad he surely will even if as a regular sub.

I never questioned their motivation, they're two players who I have no worries regarding their motivation and passion while on the pitch.

Chambers isn't who StefJo will be competing against? Chambers is a defensive midfielder, Stef Jo is box-to-box so it will be Anguissa he's competing against.

Also, isn't Johansen's three year contract up at the end of this 2018/19 season, meaning some kind of persuasion may be necessary to tempt him to extend it?

[Jimsbeerbelly]

Agreed. On another note, I'm also hoping Cairney's extension of his contract will help persuade KMac to stay and attract StefJo back next season

You do realise Tony Khan can say KMac and StefJo cannot leave, he doesn't have to persuade anyone. And frankly, it's the managers problem to keep them motivated if they do stay. Stefjo would be happy to stay provided he gets game time, with a 46 game season and without Chambers in the squad he surely will even if as a regular sub.

I never questioned their motivation, they're two players who I have no worries regarding their motivation and passion while on the pitch.

Chambers isn't who StefJo will be competing against? Chambers is a defensive midfielder, Stef Jo is box-to-box so it will be Anguissa he's competing against.

Also, isn't Johansen's three year contract up at the end of this 2018/19 season, meaning some kind of persuasion may be necessary to tempt him to extend it?

Club has the option of another year, if they chose to extend it. However, I have it on good authority, he's absolutely pee'd off with the Club, over contract extensions last season, and is unlikely to play for us again.

[Woolly Mammoth]

I see Seri wants a move and has "little desire to play in the Championship", no surprise there. In fact I saw little desire anyway.

I've said on another thread I think he's highly talented but I agree with you here. Disgusting attitude.

He's 27 and has 3 years on his contract, hopefully with a clause lowering his wages on relegation. I'd love it if the club told him he isn't going anywhere - play in the Championship or watch your career fizzle out in our u23s mate. That's how we deal with deserters.

But this was hardly a quote from Seri, was it? Seeing that most such "news" seem mostly made up, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to deem his attitude disgusting?

Fair point. Disgusting [if true]

Ok yes, disgusting if true.

Seri has more talent in his little finger than Oliver Norwood has, just needs to prove it over a season. I hope Seri stays in the squad, has to fight for a place on the bench, gets a chance off the bench, earns his place in the first team and proves he is too good for the Championship by becoming "PFA Championship Player of the Year". If I was Tony Khan, I'd promise Seri that i'll sell him at the end of any season to Barcelona provided its for a 1p profit. Seri has been Tony Khan's worse permanent signing, which is quite an achievement and I wouldn't be rewarding him with sending him to a club of his choosing until he reseves that.

Err who was comparing Seri and Norwood? How do you claim on the one hand he has "more talent in his little finger.....", then go on to say he "has been TK's worse (sic) permanent signing"? Bit of a contradiction no?

I guess your right, something is missing is Seri's performances at Fulham, and I don't know what it is  but it's not a lack of talent that is missing.

Something is missing you say, hmmm let me think, well for starters he has no heart, no Bolox, no passion, no loyalty, no mental strength, no desire, no appetite, no empathy with Fulham, wants an easy life in a warmer climate at his own comfortable level where he hasn't got to eat dirt for a living.

I don't like to agree with you, but no matter how hard i think i cannot find anyway to articulate you aren't right. Hopefully, Seri gives me a reason next season to prove you wrong. Nothing this season to prove you wrong.

You have to tell yourself, you have to agree with me, you will enjoy this forum far more, and you will find peace and tranquility in you life.
I expect by reading my post you are feeling better already.
So please continue agreeing with me, do not listen to the barrack room lawyers who are philistines and Wolves in sheep's clothing. However, you clearly are of good intellect, and I am confident you will not be seduced or influenced by cads and bounders whose only mission is to make sarcastic comments without adding any real contributions.
So continue agreeing with me and the sun will shine on you.

[FulhamStu]

I just posted a few words on the Wolves thread above about Anguissa's very poor effort on their goal yesterday.   One of thing we got badly wrong was the character of players we recruited.  Frank and Seri this season give the impression that they don't care enough.  This may be miles off the truth and Parker is certainly giving Frank a lot of love which I doubt he would if my comments above were true, however the fact is, next season in the championship we can't afford passengers.  Tom Cairney for all his excellent footballing skills does not play with passion and KMac and StefJo allowed him to stroll at times last season.

Parker was a real grafter on the pitch and I would have though is very well placed to know who could do well next season and who is not suited so TK has to listen to him.

Chambers attitude has been excellent and this is one of his main assets.

We will need leaders and battlers as well as the skills of players like TC.  I am sure there is more than enough talent in this squad but I am not sure there are enough with the right attitude to succeed in a very tough league.

Parker keeps saying how important next season is, his focus tells me he will be in charge and TK needs to have him by his side during recruitment.

[Statto]

I just posted a few words on the Wolves thread above about Anguissa's very poor effort on their goal yesterday.   One of thing we got badly wrong was the character of players we recruited.  Frank and Seri this season give the impression that they don't care enough.  This may be miles off the truth and Parker is certainly giving Frank a lot of love which I doubt he would if my comments above were true, however the fact is, next season in the championship we can't afford passengers.  Tom Cairney for all his excellent footballing skills does not play with passion and KMac and StefJo allowed him to stroll at times last season.

Parker was a real grafter on the pitch and I would have though is very well placed to know who could do well next season and who is not suited so TK has to listen to him.

Chambers attitude has been excellent and this is one of his main assets.

We will need leaders and battlers as well as the skills of players like TC.  I am sure there is more than enough talent in this squad but I am not sure there are enough with the right attitude to succeed in a very tough league.

Parker keeps saying how important next season is, his focus tells me he will be in charge and TK needs to have him by his side during recruitment.

Broadly agree with this. However, as Parker said in an interview the other day, different players are motivated by different things. Evidently Chambers is the typical English sort of player who responds to a relegation battle by knuckling down and battling. Anguissa may just not have the same levers. I wouldn't be surprised if the step down to an easier league, a bit of praise from Parker and the confidence a few wins brings, allows Anguissa to focus on the football more easily and he plays with more of a spring in his step than we've seen this year.

[Woolly Mammoth]

I just posted a few words on the Wolves thread above about Anguissa's very poor effort on their goal yesterday.   One of thing we got badly wrong was the character of players we recruited.  Frank and Seri this season give the impression that they don't care enough.  This may be miles off the truth and Parker is certainly giving Frank a lot of love which I doubt he would if my comments above were true, however the fact is, next season in the championship we can't afford passengers.  Tom Cairney for all his excellent footballing skills does not play with passion and KMac and StefJo allowed him to stroll at times last season.

Parker was a real grafter on the pitch and I would have though is very well placed to know who could do well next season and who is not suited so TK has to listen to him.

Chambers attitude has been excellent and this is one of his main assets.

We will need leaders and battlers as well as the skills of players like TC.  I am sure there is more than enough talent in this squad but I am not sure there are enough with the right attitude to succeed in a very tough league.

Parker keeps saying how important next season is, his focus tells me he will be in charge and TK needs to have him by his side during recruitment.

More or less agree with you, it's Characters and Leaders and Warriors we lack, we just have not got enough of them.
The recruitment have signed some real Duds and Passengers, instead of signing real Studs and Passiongers which contributed to some awful gutless displays before SP took over.
We cannot keep signing these kind of players who have no mental or physical strength.
I am sure SP knows the kind of players he needs, and doesn't need showing by the owners son, and the recruitment dudes should start listening and dump their computers in the nearest skip.

[The Rational Fan]

Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

[Bassey the warrior]

Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.

[The Rational Fan]

Does anyone know what positions we have been rumoured to bid on? As players rumoured will change during the summer, I'm more interested in positions.

Positions Rumoured
2. Right Back (Matthias Zimmermann)
3. Left Back (Milad Mohammadi)
4. Centre Back (Domagoj Vida)
9. Backup Striker (Matell Taylor-Crossdale)
11. Left Winger (Ryan Kent)

You can forget about Vida. He's Premier League bound.

I doubt we will buy any of these players, but they are good positions to get.