Summer Transfer Gossip.

[Sting of the North]

I'm sorry but... what? Lol You've spent an hour discussing the complexities of buying a house on a football forum.

No, we've spent a few minutes within an hour to discuss the complexities (or lack thereof) of getting a football transfer over the line (with the house buying as sort of a point of reference).

[grandad]

I say bring back the Handbags topic. Sorely missed.

[FFC1987]

Whoever said 'no signing Hector will give moaners something to moan about' blimey, you'd of thought we had at least a par defence last season.....I can't believe people will try and spin not addressing the no.1/2 position for a third window in a row as something to be a bit critical about. For those who say 'we did identify it and were unlucky not to get Hector', thats not how this game works. You plan alternatives and if money was a sticking point, you get the loan alternative in and have another signing in a less valuable position ready for a last minute cash deal, where, if iy fell through, we wouldn't be utterly exposed again. Sorry for rant, but blimey, some people will just hunker down with this bs.

[VamosFFC]

Not sure how concrete this is, but it looks like Hector will be joining us in January

Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £

— Simon Peach (@SimonPeach) August 8, 2019

[Arthur]

Not sure how concrete this is, but it looks like Hector will be joining us in January

Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £

— Simon Peach (@SimonPeach) August 8, 2019

A lot can happen between now and January. For instance, what if Wednesday are still in for him and are better placed in the league?

[Statto]

If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January. If Chelsea didn't want him loaned out all season, they could have also had a recall clause such that if we don't exercise the option to buy on January 1st, they can recall him and sell him to another club.

I can only think of two explanations: either (1) the Simon Peach story is BS, or (2) I am cleverer than TK and AM and they didn't have this idea.

I think (1) and (2) are equally plausible.

[b+w geezer]

If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.

The FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.
Given that fact, plus the inconceivability that we had a cashflow problem, explanation has to lie elsewhere.

[The Rational Fan]

Not sure how concrete this is, but it looks like Hector will be joining us in January

Sounds like #CFC defender Michael Hector will be joining #FFC in January. Would have signed today but told #THFC only accepted demands & released funds for Ryan Sessegnon at 3.30pm, leaving precious little time to get the deal over the line. FFP was an issue without £

— Simon Peach (@SimonPeach) August 8, 2019

A lot can happen between now and January. For instance, what if Wednesday are still in for him and are better placed in the league?

And, thanks to Ryan Sessegnons late transfer we may find that Steven Sessegnon establishes himself ahead of Odoi and after 20 games maybe even proves better than Michael Hector.

Steven Sessegnon was the real winner from Ryan Sessegnons transfer not happening to deadline day, because late negotiations Michael Hector and Florent Hadergjonaj fell through (it seems at least the Hector offer was in the ball park that Chelsea would consider). At least David Levy paid near market value, good on Ryan for helping his brother, one day we might thank him too, S.Sess maybe what we need.

[Statto]

If the Hector issue was purely cash, why didn't we loan him with an option to buy that we could exercise in January.

The FFP position for this season is assessed after the Jan window has closed, so your suggestion would make no difference one way or the other.

I know, that was my point.
When I say "cash" problem, I mean FFP problem, ie we didn't know whether we would have the Sessegnon funds to spend.
So we could have done the Hector deal as a loan at 10am yesterday morning before we completed the Sessegnon sale, then bought Hector in January, once we had the Sessegnon money in our budget.

[Danitar]

Does anyone know if we got a sell on for sess or was onomah the 'sell on', if anyone knows that would be good to know?

[The Rational Fan]

Does anyone know if we got a sell on for sess or was onomah the 'sell on', if anyone knows that would be good to know?

I read Fulham can get an extra £5m in bonuses (e.g. play 20 games, represent England, sell on and/or win Ballon D'Or etc).

[bobby01]

Tbh I accept we had to wait for sess money, but surely to god hector  could have been told we are waiting for money to sign you, there is a remote chance we won't get it. But if you have your medical and agree terms as soon as sess goes we can push this through. 3:30 till 5:00, or an extra period of time. Why could that not have been done, or were they so tied up in the reed/Reid deals they gave it little thought.

[Danitar]

Does anyone know if we got a sell on for sess or was onomah the 'sell on', if anyone knows that would be good to know?

I read Fulham can get an extra £5m in bonuses (e.g. play 20 games, represent England, sell on and/or win Ballon D'Or etc).

Sounds like a fixed sell on of £5mill then

[sarnian]

Tbh I accept we had to wait for sess money, but surely to god hector  could have been told we are waiting for money to sign you, there is a remote chance we won't get it. But if you have your medical and agree terms as soon as sess goes we can push this through. 3:30 till 5:00, or an extra period of time. Why could that not have been done, or were they so tied up in the reed/Reid deals they gave it little thought.

What has happened to Chelsea in the above. They have to be satisfied that the cash is available before they sanction the deal. There are Hector, Chelsea, Fulham and agents who all have to be satisfied before a deal can be completed. Could be many reason that the paperwork was not completed.

[spikey norman]

We may still be able to strengthen the defence by signing players out of contract/released.
Are there any decent ones out there though?
Is Danny Simpson still available?

[rvFFC]

We may still be able to strengthen the defence by signing players out of contract/released.
Are there any decent ones out there though?

These are meant to be the defenders without a club at the moment
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=Abwehr&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=alle&yt0=Show

[Roberty]

Tbh I accept we had to wait for sess money, but surely to god hector  could have been told we are waiting for money to sign you, there is a remote chance we won't get it. But if you have your medical and agree terms as soon as sess goes we can push this through. 3:30 till 5:00, or an extra period of time. Why could that not have been done, or were they so tied up in the reed/Reid deals they gave it little thought.

What has happened to Chelsea in the above. They have to be satisfied that the cash is available before they sanction the deal. There are Hector, Chelsea, Fulham and agents who all have to be satisfied before a deal can be completed. Could be many reason that the paperwork was not completed.

I would be sure it has nothing to do with the actual cash - since they could quite easily nail a writ of control to the mast of SK's yacht if he didn't pay up

The point to the whole thing is that if Levy found out that TK was in FFP trouble - he would certainly want to squeeze a better deal out of us
As it was TK was not under any FFP pressure at that point and was reportedly prepared go to the wire and accept the financial cost of letting Ryan's contract run down
This left Levy in a poor negotiating position and we appear to have got a better deal than many people expected

[Two Ton Ted]

Ashley Williams, Danny Simpson and Martin Olsson are all free agents, and IMO would fir what we're looking for at the back. Williams especially.

[JoelH5]

Ashley Williams, Danny Simpson and Martin Olsson are all free agents, and IMO would fir what we're looking for at the back. Williams especially.

Plus now if the Sess money rumour is true, it is now cleared.. So we could use it.

[twang]

Ashley Williams, Danny Simpson and Martin Olsson are all free agents, and IMO would fir what we're looking for at the back. Williams especially.

Daniel Schwaab, 30 year-old central defender who was a nailed-on starter at PSV last season as they won the Eredivisie, is also available.