Scott Parker out

[Spirit of 2000]

The constant playing out from the back was tactical stupidity and cost us.

[Whitestone]

Seems H4's post has gone over the head of many.

It does. Quite amusing.

[General]

Seems H4's post has gone over the head of many.

No it hasn't but whilst we played a good team, they also rested aguero, sterling, de Bruyne, stones, laporte, ederson for a large chunk if not all of the match.

There also was an element of dejavu with the tactics, and desire to play one way and making similar mistakes to the past - playing out from the back.

Personally I'm 50/50 on parker.. do I think he's capable of getting us out of the league? 70/30% in favour. Do I think he's getting the most out of the squad 65/35% in favour. Do I think he is tactically versatile 60/40% in favour. Do the squad have the fitness levels 100%.

Do I think this squad is under performing 75/25% in favour of them underperforming.

For what it's worth it actually think considering we played with ten for 90 minutes I think the lads actually played really well for large chunks and I think with a full squad we could have actually done quite well albeit I do think there is an air of dillusion amongst some fans who want to put a rosey tint on where we're currently falling short and what that means should we get promoted again.

I think parker needs more time in the championship to adapt his managerial style even if we go up. He's a good manager at this level but has also been given some great tools to do it and I wonder if it covers Over things tactically which he's not had to think about.

Also, whilst our squad is getting a lot stronger and areas are being filled that were weak originally - Hector and kongolo look solid acquisitions but we need one or two out and out strikers to take burden off mitro, force competition and balance matches with and even give more options.

[DucatiFFC]

Re comment on H4 post. Over who's head, pathetic attempt at irony , not sure who would have believed otherwise.

[Spirit of 2000]

Seems H4's post has gone over the head of many.

It does. Quite amusing.

Not my reply. Parker wasn't great today,  tactically he was poor with insisting we constantly played out from the back. The irony of the original post was obvious.

[St Eve]

Oh boy! Love the decision to play with 10 men

[ffcne]

So what 'different approach' would you have recommended?

Not to play out from the back, (already proved to be a liabilty), when in possession get the ball forward to Cav or Reid as quickly as possible. Passing the ball around in our own half was suicidle.

Totally agree.

[Skatzoffc]

Lol.
Dear oh dear.

[H4usuallysitting]

And, I haven't even mentioned Parker's decision to play in Red...

[King Mitro]

Sacking our manager when we are 3rd in the league and 4 points off top would be really embarrassing. We would be more of a laughing stock than we were last season.

[southwest6]

Seems H4's post has gone over the head of many.

It does. Quite amusing.

I know that it can sometimes be hard to pick up on sarcasm over the internet, but how on earth have some people fallen for this? Goes to show how many posters on here are determined to blame scotty, even when it is entirely out of his control! Plenty in desperate need of some therapy imo....

[Woolly Mammoth]

Oh boy! Love the decision to play with 10 men

That was the cunning plan, and it nearly paid off.

[southwest6]

And, I haven't even mentioned Parker's decision to play in Red...

I reckon playing in our blue kit would've been worse. I think scotty made the right call playing in red as playing in blue or white (soft colours) would have cemented our loss; perhaps we can play in red  in our next game and see how we fare. I think we can blame scotty for our loss by virtue of the fact that he played Mitro against hull, knowing that there was always a possibility that he would get injured. I reckon had mitro played, we would have at least gotten a draw (but only if playing in red although this is debatable). Thoughts ?

[Mr K.Dilkington]

The constant playing out from the back was tactical stupidity and cost us.

You should only ever do it if you have the players to do it. It annoys me that just because city/liverpool do it and it's therefore trendy,we need to do it. Even at our own expense. Nobody likes a stylish loser.

[Facts Not Fiction]

What other style could we have played today other than playing it out from the back? Long ball would never work. Don't have to wingers to spring a quick counter. The last few games we've been limited in terms of style, due to injuries. Once everyone is back, then we'll see what style we deploy.

[Whitestone]

What other style could we have played today other than playing it out from the back? Long ball would never work. Don't have to wingers to spring a quick counter. The last few games we've been limited in terms of style, due to injuries. Once everyone is back, then we'll see what style we deploy.

Yep, agree and of course we won't be playing the likes of Man City until at least August  049:gif

[Statto]

Seems H4's post has gone over the head of many.

It does. Quite amusing.

I know that it can sometimes be hard to pick up on sarcasm over the internet, but how on earth have some people fallen for this? Goes to show how many posters on here are determined to blame scotty, even when it is entirely out of his control! Plenty in desperate need of some therapy imo....

The OP's sarcastic comment, whilst explicitly saying Parker is to blame for us losing today and should be sacked, is implying that he wasn't to blame for anything that happened today. I accept that some people have missed that duality of meaning and responded to the OP's statement as if he wasn't being sarcastic, but I think most have just responded to the implied statement with quite reasonable counter-arguments. No, Parker wasn't to blame for us losing today, but perhaps it was a mistake (a) to play our best XI and/or (b) to set them up for a particularly humiliating defeat by not adapting our tactics bettery (although admittedly that seems harsh considering our intended tactics probably went out the window when Ream went off). And obviously the context of this is we've performed below expectations in the league under Parker so far. So IMO someone criticising Parker on this thread doesn't mean they've missed the OP's sarcasm or "are determined to blame scotty, even when it is entirely out of his control".

[H4usuallysitting]

And, I haven't even mentioned Parker's decision to play in Red...

I reckon playing in our blue kit would've been worse. I think scotty made the right call playing in red as playing in blue or white (soft colours) would have cemented our loss; perhaps we can play in red  in our next game and see how we fare. I think we can blame scotty for our loss by virtue of the fact that he played Mitro against hull, knowing that there was always a possibility that he would get injured. I reckon had mitro played, we would have at least gotten a draw (but only if playing in red although this is debatable). Thoughts ?

Yep, I totally agree with everything you say - apart from the colours bit and the Mitro bit....but everything else is totally on the money.....and talking of money.... I bet Scott even gets paid to make these terrible decisions.....you watch, and mark my words - as soon as Mitro is back to full fitness, you know what Scott will pick him - ludicrous

[Andy S]

Sorry I don't do irony when people have paid out good money to travel to Manchester to watch their team. The whole club should give it their best shot win lose or draw. Our 11 or 10 against theirs. No to giving up before you have even kicked off

[The Rational Fan]

Seems H4's post has gone over the head of many.

It does. Quite amusing.

I know that it can sometimes be hard to pick up on sarcasm over the internet, but how on earth have some people fallen for this? Goes to show how many posters on here are determined to blame scotty, even when it is entirely out of his control! Plenty in desperate need of some therapy imo....

The OP's sarcastic comment, whilst explicitly saying Parker is to blame for us losing today and should be sacked, is implying that he wasn't to blame for anything that happened today. I accept that some people have missed that duality of meaning and responded to the OP's statement as if he wasn't being sarcastic, but I think most have just responded to the implied statement with quite reasonable counter-arguments. No, Parker wasn't to blame for us losing today, but perhaps it was a mistake (a) to play our best XI and/or (b) to set them up for a particularly humiliating defeat by not adapting our tactics bettery (although admittedly that seems harsh considering our intended tactics probably went out the window when Ream went off). And obviously the context of this is we've performed below expectations in the league under Parker so far. So IMO someone criticising Parker on this thread doesn't mean they've missed the OP's sarcasm or "are determined to blame scotty, even when it is entirely out of his control".

I agree Parker wasn't to blame for losing today, ManCity have players worth the same as our entire squad and other players worth the same as our that wait the entire season to play a game like this. No way Parker should be excepted to compete with ManCity and keep a clean sheet because they are worth at least 8x what we are.

I would say the same thing about Lee Bowyer too when playing Fulham, because Fulham is worth roughly 8x what Charlton is. There is equally no way Bowyer should be able to keep a clean sheet against Fulham, and Parker should still be explaining his result against Charlton.

Parker is not to blame for the results against Southampton, WBA, Brentford, Leeds and ManCity as they are good teams, but we have lost 12 points from 9 games with the bottom six teams in the championship so far, last season we only lost 17 points after 12 games to the bottom six.

When we play ManCity we say they are too good and when we play Luton we say every team is tough. If both teams coaching was perfect, we can never beat ManCity and Charlton should never beat us too.