All of this Change the Manager talk

[ChesterTheTabby]

Why? If you were offered 4th with 6 games to go, you wouldn't have taken it at the beginning of the season? All of this "with this squad we should walk the league" is massively arrogant, and it does a disservice to all of the top teams in this division who train hard, have loyal fans, and dream of Premier League futures. Honestly, the amount of ricochet emotions on this board (and I'm absolutely guilty of this myself) is astonishing. Yes, we're Fulham, and we are mad in love with our club and for many of us it's our escape... but are we truly (historically speaking) one of the top 20 teams in England? I think our squad as more to answer for than Parker, a young aspiring manager who is in his first real season as a manager and has Fulham in 4th, looking favorites to stay at least in the playoffs. Are his tactics great - not always. Are his team selections spot on - not always. Does he care, try, and bleed for us - yes I do believe so. He played for us, he captained our squad through some difficult, DIFFICULT seasons in our recent history, and then served alongside Joka's tutelage and is now taking his shot at the big time.

Give the man a break. I've been an emotional wreck this season too, far from my normal stoic ideals, and I'll be the first to admit that I've been unfairly harsh on Scott, but I've also never said (to my memory) that he should be sacked. He's one of our own, like it or not, and he's forever a member of the Fulham family.

The reason I write this is because of a post another FoF regular wrote a few days ago about "why are we always bickering and moaning and not just supporting our lads (gaffer included) through thick and thin?" (Paraphrased), and he was right. We ARE FULHAM. If we don't have each other's, the teams, and gaffers back, we're no better than plastic Chelsea scum.

COME ON THE FULHAM UNTIL THE DAY I DIE.

Rant complete.

- Mike

[Statto]

If you were offered 4th with 6 games to go, you wouldn't have taken it at the beginning of the season?

No.

And we are 5th now.

[ChesterTheTabby]

If you were offered 4th with 6 games to go, you wouldn't have taken it at the beginning of the season?

No.

And we are 5th now.

Well crap. That changes everything right? 🤭🤣😂

[The Rational Fan]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

[Matt10]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

[ChesterTheTabby]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

[The Rational Fan]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

Its Parker job to put these players in the best preparation to score, whatever preparation he has prepared for them Mitro, Kamara and Cairney are scoring similar to before; but Knockaert, Stefjo, Reid and Cav are scoring a lot less than normal, so my conclusion is the preparation is not working.

[Matt10]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

Its Parker job to put these players in the best preparation to score, whatever preparation he has prepared for them Mitro, Kamara and Cairney are scoring similar to before; but Knockaert, Stefjo, Reid and Cav are scoring a lot less than normal, so my conclusion is the preparation is not working.

I think what most want is for Parker to change how these players are utilized, and if they aren't utilized the way it's being requested, it's time for a change in management. I get that, and I'd personally change where Cav and BDR play, but I'm not privvy to the locker room or training ground. As a result, when they're in front of goal, having their shot - missing wildly, or not, I can't blame Parker for that.

Knock, Cav and Reid (StefJo has low minutes compared to those three) have hit a drought. Cav was scoring goals with the same strategy, and tied in assists. Mitro takes the most shots (just under 4), while those three are just under 2 shots a game. If Mitro needs about 4 shots a game, then these three need at least 6.

We've also changed our play style recently. The perceived slow, boring, passing is hardly there anymore. If anything we are playing at higher pace, more long balls into space as well. The missing piece is capitalizing on counter-attacks, and perhaps more of those three players making better runs into the box off the ball. I counted 2x each that they could've been more aggressive with their runs into the box vs QPR. On the other hand though I've seen them make great runs, and the final ball just lacked a little bit.

So I'm not sure if that's preparation or not. It goes back to how we're judging our players. Are we judging them purely on their involvement in goals scored and conceded - or are we truly watching the players in question on and off the ball? Like a coach would? 

                 

[SuffolkWhite]

Good topic,

And I get the essence of it, which I agree with. Lets get behind the boys for the rest of the season including Parker. I feel a decision should be made about Parker one way or the other at the end of the season.

No I haven't always enjoyed Parkerball and the inconsistency of the team has driven me mad at times, but this is also down to the players. My expectation was always top 6 this season and not a given for the automatics as that is just the icing on the cake imo.

Either way  I am behind the team and lets see what happens in the Play Off's.

[alfie]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

Its Parker job to put these players in the best preparation to score, whatever preparation he has prepared for them Mitro, Kamara and Cairney are scoring similar to before; but Knockaert, Stefjo, Reid and Cav are scoring a lot less than normal, so my conclusion is the preparation is not working.

I think what most want is for Parker to change how these players are utilized, and if they aren't utilized the way it's being requested, it's time for a change in management. I get that, and I'd personally change where Cav and BDR play, but I'm not privvy to the locker room or training ground. As a result, when they're in front of goal, having their shot - missing wildly, or not, I can't blame Parker for that.

Knock, Cav and Reid (StefJo has low minutes compared to those three) have hit a drought. Cav was scoring goals with the same strategy, and tied in assists. Mitro takes the most shots (just under 4), while those three are just under 2 shots a game. If Mitro needs about 4 shots a game, then these three need at least 6.

We've also changed our play style recently. The perceived slow, boring, passing is hardly there anymore. If anything we are playing at higher pace, more long balls into space as well. The missing piece is capitalizing on counter-attacks, and perhaps more of those three players making better runs into the box off the ball. I counted 2x each that they could've been more aggressive with their runs into the box vs QPR. On the other hand though I've seen them make great runs, and the final ball just lacked a little bit.

So I'm not sure if that's preparation or not. It goes back to how we're judging our players. Are we judging them purely on their involvement in goals scored and conceded - or are we truly watching the players in question on and off the ball? Like a coach would? 

               

Personally I think it comes down to the fact that people don't like Parker so they will blame him for everything that goes wrong or doesn't work, and when we get a win, of course it's nothing to do with him, if a players bootlace comes undone it's obviously Parker's fault for not doing them up.

Whether in the long run he is right for Fulham, I don't know, but the amount of abuse the guy gets sometimes is way over the top.

[rebel]

Why? If you were offered 4th with 6 games to go, you wouldn't have taken it at the beginning of the season? All of this "with this squad we should walk the league" is massively arrogant, and it does a disservice to all of the top teams in this division who train hard, have loyal fans, and dream of Premier League futures. Honestly, the amount of ricochet emotions on this board (and I'm absolutely guilty of this myself) is astonishing. Yes, we're Fulham, and we are mad in love with our club and for many of us it's our escape... but are we truly (historically speaking) one of the top 20 teams in England? I think our squad as more to answer for than Parker, a young aspiring manager who is in his first real season as a manager and has Fulham in 4th, looking favorites to stay at least in the playoffs. Are his tactics great - not always. Are his team selections spot on - not always. Does he care, try, and bleed for us - yes I do believe so. He played for us, he captained our squad through some difficult, DIFFICULT seasons in our recent history, and then served alongside Joka's tutelage and is now taking his shot at the big time.

Give the man a break. I've been an emotional wreck this season too, far from my normal stoic ideals, and I'll be the first to admit that I've been unfairly harsh on Scott, but I've also never said (to my memory) that he should be sacked. He's one of our own, like it or not, and he's forever a member of the Fulham family.

The reason I write this is because of a post another FoF regular wrote a few days ago about "why are we always bickering and moaning and not just supporting our lads (gaffer included) through thick and thin?" (Paraphrased), and he was right. We ARE FULHAM. If we don't have each other's, the teams, and gaffers back, we're no better than plastic Chelsea scum.

COME ON THE FULHAM UNTIL THE DAY I DIE.

Rant complete.

- Mike

That was a entertaining post. Yes we would like to 'give Parker a break'.

[rebel]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

Its Parker job to put these players in the best preparation to score, whatever preparation he has prepared for them Mitro, Kamara and Cairney are scoring similar to before; but Knockaert, Stefjo, Reid and Cav are scoring a lot less than normal, so my conclusion is the preparation is not working.

I think what most want is for Parker to change how these players are utilized, and if they aren't utilized the way it's being requested, it's time for a change in management. I get that, and I'd personally change where Cav and BDR play, but I'm not privvy to the locker room or training ground. As a result, when they're in front of goal, having their shot - missing wildly, or not, I can't blame Parker for that.

Knock, Cav and Reid (StefJo has low minutes compared to those three) have hit a drought. Cav was scoring goals with the same strategy, and tied in assists. Mitro takes the most shots (just under 4), while those three are just under 2 shots a game. If Mitro needs about 4 shots a game, then these three need at least 6.

We've also changed our play style recently. The perceived slow, boring, passing is hardly there anymore. If anything we are playing at higher pace, more long balls into space as well. The missing piece is capitalizing on counter-attacks, and perhaps more of those three players making better runs into the box off the ball. I counted 2x each that they could've been more aggressive with their runs into the box vs QPR. On the other hand though I've seen them make great runs, and the final ball just lacked a little bit.

So I'm not sure if that's preparation or not. It goes back to how we're judging our players. Are we judging them purely on their involvement in goals scored and conceded - or are we truly watching the players in question on and off the ball? Like a coach would? 

               

Personally I think it comes down to the fact that people don't like Parker so they will blame him for everything that goes wrong or doesn't work, and when we get a win, of course it's nothing to do with him, if a players bootlace comes undone it's obviously Parker's fault for not doing them up.

Whether in the long run he is right for Fulham, I don't know, but the amount of abuse the guy gets sometimes is way over the top.

No, if the 'laces come undone', then that's the Bootman's fault.

[alfie]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

Its Parker job to put these players in the best preparation to score, whatever preparation he has prepared for them Mitro, Kamara and Cairney are scoring similar to before; but Knockaert, Stefjo, Reid and Cav are scoring a lot less than normal, so my conclusion is the preparation is not working.

I think what most want is for Parker to change how these players are utilized, and if they aren't utilized the way it's being requested, it's time for a change in management. I get that, and I'd personally change where Cav and BDR play, but I'm not privvy to the locker room or training ground. As a result, when they're in front of goal, having their shot - missing wildly, or not, I can't blame Parker for that.

Knock, Cav and Reid (StefJo has low minutes compared to those three) have hit a drought. Cav was scoring goals with the same strategy, and tied in assists. Mitro takes the most shots (just under 4), while those three are just under 2 shots a game. If Mitro needs about 4 shots a game, then these three need at least 6.

We've also changed our play style recently. The perceived slow, boring, passing is hardly there anymore. If anything we are playing at higher pace, more long balls into space as well. The missing piece is capitalizing on counter-attacks, and perhaps more of those three players making better runs into the box off the ball. I counted 2x each that they could've been more aggressive with their runs into the box vs QPR. On the other hand though I've seen them make great runs, and the final ball just lacked a little bit.

So I'm not sure if that's preparation or not. It goes back to how we're judging our players. Are we judging them purely on their involvement in goals scored and conceded - or are we truly watching the players in question on and off the ball? Like a coach would? 

               

Personally I think it comes down to the fact that people don't like Parker so they will blame him for everything that goes wrong or doesn't work, and when we get a win, of course it's nothing to do with him, if a players bootlace comes undone it's obviously Parker's fault for not doing them up.

Whether in the long run he is right for Fulham, I don't know, but the amount of abuse the guy gets sometimes is way over the top.

No, if the 'laces come undone', then that's the Bootman's fault.

Which obviously means Parker has not coached him in tying laces.

[RaySmith]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

Its Parker job to put these players in the best preparation to score, whatever preparation he has prepared for them Mitro, Kamara and Cairney are scoring similar to before; but Knockaert, Stefjo, Reid and Cav are scoring a lot less than normal, so my conclusion is the preparation is not working.

I think what most want is for Parker to change how these players are utilized, and if they aren't utilized the way it's being requested, it's time for a change in management. I get that, and I'd personally change where Cav and BDR play, but I'm not privvy to the locker room or training ground. As a result, when they're in front of goal, having their shot - missing wildly, or not, I can't blame Parker for that.

Knock, Cav and Reid (StefJo has low minutes compared to those three) have hit a drought. Cav was scoring goals with the same strategy, and tied in assists. Mitro takes the most shots (just under 4), while those three are just under 2 shots a game. If Mitro needs about 4 shots a game, then these three need at least 6.

We've also changed our play style recently. The perceived slow, boring, passing is hardly there anymore. If anything we are playing at higher pace, more long balls into space as well. The missing piece is capitalizing on counter-attacks, and perhaps more of those three players making better runs into the box off the ball. I counted 2x each that they could've been more aggressive with their runs into the box vs QPR. On the other hand though I've seen them make great runs, and the final ball just lacked a little bit.

So I'm not sure if that's preparation or not. It goes back to how we're judging our players. Are we judging them purely on their involvement in goals scored and conceded - or are we truly watching the players in question on and off the ball? Like a coach would? 

               

Personally I think it comes down to the fact that people don't like Parker so they will blame him for everything that goes wrong or doesn't work, and when we get a win, of course it's nothing to do with him, if a players bootlace comes undone it's obviously Parker's fault for not doing them up.

Whether in the long run he is right for Fulham, I don't know, but the amount of abuse the guy gets sometimes is way over the top.

No, if the 'laces come undone', then that's the Bootman's fault.
[/quote)


No, someone  'in the know' would  tell of Tony Khan getting conned by the boots supplier into  buying poorer quality boots with rubbish laces!

Or maybe Parker  decided that  we needed lighter laces in the boots to help the players run faster,  but these broke easily at important moments in the game.

[Asotosyios]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

Its Parker job to put these players in the best preparation to score, whatever preparation he has prepared for them Mitro, Kamara and Cairney are scoring similar to before; but Knockaert, Stefjo, Reid and Cav are scoring a lot less than normal, so my conclusion is the preparation is not working.

I think what most want is for Parker to change how these players are utilized, and if they aren't utilized the way it's being requested, it's time for a change in management. I get that, and I'd personally change where Cav and BDR play, but I'm not privvy to the locker room or training ground. As a result, when they're in front of goal, having their shot - missing wildly, or not, I can't blame Parker for that.

Knock, Cav and Reid (StefJo has low minutes compared to those three) have hit a drought. Cav was scoring goals with the same strategy, and tied in assists. Mitro takes the most shots (just under 4), while those three are just under 2 shots a game. If Mitro needs about 4 shots a game, then these three need at least 6.

We've also changed our play style recently. The perceived slow, boring, passing is hardly there anymore. If anything we are playing at higher pace, more long balls into space as well. The missing piece is capitalizing on counter-attacks, and perhaps more of those three players making better runs into the box off the ball. I counted 2x each that they could've been more aggressive with their runs into the box vs QPR. On the other hand though I've seen them make great runs, and the final ball just lacked a little bit.

So I'm not sure if that's preparation or not. It goes back to how we're judging our players. Are we judging them purely on their involvement in goals scored and conceded - or are we truly watching the players in question on and off the ball? Like a coach would? 

               

Personally I think it comes down to the fact that people don't like Parker so they will blame him for everything that goes wrong or doesn't work, and when we get a win, of course it's nothing to do with him, if a players bootlace comes undone it's obviously Parker's fault for not doing them up.

Whether in the long run he is right for Fulham, I don't know, but the amount of abuse the guy gets sometimes is way over the top.

I don't think that people on this forum don't like Parker - I'm sure they would invite him over for dinner or have a pint with him. What they don't like is what he has done with this year's team and that's the reason he's being criticized.

Yes, we have had a few good games but in general, the football we are served every week is rather dull and boring - nothing exciting or inspiring. At the same time, we are not winning enough (meaning being in the automatic promotion places) to overlook the fact that the football is boring (I wouldn't, but let's leave this for now). As a result, Parker is criticized when the results are not good enough (by those that care about the results) and he is also criticized when the performances are dire (by those that want to see "sexy" football).

A lot has been said on here about us having the best squad in the league. I still think we do and haven't heard from anyone which team has a better one, but just for the sake of it let's say that we don't. Still, it's difficult to argue that our squad and our attacking line is not one of the best in the league. Is it such a big ask then if we want to watch Fulham to play a more attacking brand of football and create more chances? Even score more, God forbid!

I would agree that's it's the players' responsibility for not scoring more, if our system and tactics meant that we create numerous clear cut chances that the players don't or cannot take. If not, then the manager should take some blame otherwise we could all be managers at the end - we would only need to select the players at their best position and if they don't score or play well, then it's all on them.

Finally, I don't think that anyone is not behind the team. We are all Fulham fans and want the best - we will celebrate promotion if it happens, even if we like Parker and his football or not. At the same time, we cannot just close our eyes or be oblivious to how this season has been unfolding. Perhaps the expectations were too high (rightly or wrongly), but I don't think Parker's criticism is so far unjustified.

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[Andy S]

We shouldn't be talking about this now. We have had 9 months to get behind the manager for this season. Let's do it!

[alfie]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

Its Parker job to put these players in the best preparation to score, whatever preparation he has prepared for them Mitro, Kamara and Cairney are scoring similar to before; but Knockaert, Stefjo, Reid and Cav are scoring a lot less than normal, so my conclusion is the preparation is not working.

I think what most want is for Parker to change how these players are utilized, and if they aren't utilized the way it's being requested, it's time for a change in management. I get that, and I'd personally change where Cav and BDR play, but I'm not privvy to the locker room or training ground. As a result, when they're in front of goal, having their shot - missing wildly, or not, I can't blame Parker for that.

Knock, Cav and Reid (StefJo has low minutes compared to those three) have hit a drought. Cav was scoring goals with the same strategy, and tied in assists. Mitro takes the most shots (just under 4), while those three are just under 2 shots a game. If Mitro needs about 4 shots a game, then these three need at least 6.

We've also changed our play style recently. The perceived slow, boring, passing is hardly there anymore. If anything we are playing at higher pace, more long balls into space as well. The missing piece is capitalizing on counter-attacks, and perhaps more of those three players making better runs into the box off the ball. I counted 2x each that they could've been more aggressive with their runs into the box vs QPR. On the other hand though I've seen them make great runs, and the final ball just lacked a little bit.

So I'm not sure if that's preparation or not. It goes back to how we're judging our players. Are we judging them purely on their involvement in goals scored and conceded - or are we truly watching the players in question on and off the ball? Like a coach would? 

               

Personally I think it comes down to the fact that people don't like Parker so they will blame him for everything that goes wrong or doesn't work, and when we get a win, of course it's nothing to do with him, if a players bootlace comes undone it's obviously Parker's fault for not doing them up.

Whether in the long run he is right for Fulham, I don't know, but the amount of abuse the guy gets sometimes is way over the top.

I don't think that people on this forum don't like Parker - I'm sure they would invite him over for dinner or have a pint with him. What they don't like is what he has done with this year's team and that's the reason he's being criticized.

Yes, we have had a few good games but in general, the football we are served every week is rather dull and boring - nothing exciting or inspiring. At the same time, we are not winning enough (meaning being in the automatic promotion places) to overlook the fact that the football is boring (I wouldn't, but let's leave this for now). As a result, Parker is criticized when the results are not good enough (by those that care about the results) and he is also criticized when the performances are dire (by those that want to see "sexy" football).

A lot has been said on here about us having the best squad in the league. I still think we do and haven't heard from anyone which team has a better one, but just for the sake of it let's say that we don't. Still, it's difficult to argue that our squad and our attacking line is not one of the best in the league. Is it such a big ask then if we want to watch Fulham to play a more attacking brand of football and create more chances? Even score more, God forbid!

I would agree that's it's the players' responsibility for not scoring more, if our system and tactics meant that we create numerous clear cut chances that the players don't or cannot take. If not, then the manager should take some blame otherwise we could all be managers at the end - we would only need to select the players at their best position and if they don't score or play well, then it's all on them.

Finally, I don't think that anyone is not behind the team. We are all Fulham fans and want the best - we will celebrate promotion if it happens, even if we like Parker and his football or not. At the same time, we cannot just close our eyes or be oblivious to how this season has been unfolding. Perhaps the expectations were too high (rightly or wrongly), but I don't think Parker's criticism is so far unjustified.

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I never liked Roy's style of football, I thought he set his team not to lose rather than to win, but I never did and never would give him the sort of abuse Parker gets. Although to be fair the nasty abuse appear on other sites a lot more than on here.

[john dempsey]

Cairney. Mitro. and all the other promotion season players
still here seem to me to be shadows of themselves
from their time under slav.no matter whether you like
parker or not an awful lot of games are dull

[Penfold]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

Its Parker job to put these players in the best preparation to score, whatever preparation he has prepared for them Mitro, Kamara and Cairney are scoring similar to before; but Knockaert, Stefjo, Reid and Cav are scoring a lot less than normal, so my conclusion is the preparation is not working.

I think what most want is for Parker to change how these players are utilized, and if they aren't utilized the way it's being requested, it's time for a change in management. I get that, and I'd personally change where Cav and BDR play, but I'm not privvy to the locker room or training ground. As a result, when they're in front of goal, having their shot - missing wildly, or not, I can't blame Parker for that.

Knock, Cav and Reid (StefJo has low minutes compared to those three) have hit a drought. Cav was scoring goals with the same strategy, and tied in assists. Mitro takes the most shots (just under 4), while those three are just under 2 shots a game. If Mitro needs about 4 shots a game, then these three need at least 6.

We've also changed our play style recently. The perceived slow, boring, passing is hardly there anymore. If anything we are playing at higher pace, more long balls into space as well. The missing piece is capitalizing on counter-attacks, and perhaps more of those three players making better runs into the box off the ball. I counted 2x each that they could've been more aggressive with their runs into the box vs QPR. On the other hand though I've seen them make great runs, and the final ball just lacked a little bit.

So I'm not sure if that's preparation or not. It goes back to how we're judging our players. Are we judging them purely on their involvement in goals scored and conceded - or are we truly watching the players in question on and off the ball? Like a coach would? 

               

Personally I think it comes down to the fact that people don't like Parker so they will blame him for everything that goes wrong or doesn't work, and when we get a win, of course it's nothing to do with him, if a players bootlace comes undone it's obviously Parker's fault for not doing them up.

Whether in the long run he is right for Fulham, I don't know, but the amount of abuse the guy gets sometimes is way over the top.

I don't think that people on this forum don't like Parker - I'm sure they would invite him over for dinner or have a pint with him. What they don't like is what he has done with this year's team and that's the reason he's being criticized.

Yes, we have had a few good games but in general, the football we are served every week is rather dull and boring - nothing exciting or inspiring. At the same time, we are not winning enough (meaning being in the automatic promotion places) to overlook the fact that the football is boring (I wouldn't, but let's leave this for now). As a result, Parker is criticized when the results are not good enough (by those that care about the results) and he is also criticized when the performances are dire (by those that want to see "sexy" football).

A lot has been said on here about us having the best squad in the league. I still think we do and haven't heard from anyone which team has a better one, but just for the sake of it let's say that we don't. Still, it's difficult to argue that our squad and our attacking line is not one of the best in the league. Is it such a big ask then if we want to watch Fulham to play a more attacking brand of football and create more chances? Even score more, God forbid!

I would agree that's it's the players' responsibility for not scoring more, if our system and tactics meant that we create numerous clear cut chances that the players don't or cannot take. If not, then the manager should take some blame otherwise we could all be managers at the end - we would only need to select the players at their best position and if they don't score or play well, then it's all on them.

Finally, I don't think that anyone is not behind the team. We are all Fulham fans and want the best - we will celebrate promotion if it happens, even if we like Parker and his football or not. At the same time, we cannot just close our eyes or be oblivious to how this season has been unfolding. Perhaps the expectations were too high (rightly or wrongly), but I don't think Parker's criticism is so far unjustified.

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I never liked Roy's style of football, I thought he set his team not to lose rather than to win, but I never did and never would give him the sort of abuse Parker gets. Although to be fair the nasty abuse appear on other sites a lot more than on here.

I think you are right about Roy's style of football - it was all about being hard to beat.

I think the difference is that he was in the Premier League where FFC were a relatively small fish in the pond. This season, in the Championship, we probably have amongst the highest financial resources due to parachute payments. Due to that I think a lot of people had an expectancy that we would be more assertive/expansive in our style as we should have one of the stronger teams.

He shouldn't be getting abuse, but constructive criticism, I don't have a problem with.

[ByTheRiver]

Mitro scores 23 goals in 36 games and we have only conceded 40 goals. Parker failed to get Knockaert, Reid, Stefjo and Cav scoring again is the reason we are 5th.

If come 5th this season, then 7th would be good result in 2020/21. After parachute payments end, 7th-12th would be a good decision.

I know Parker's learning, but as soon as he is good enough, he will be moving to Tottenham. We are helping a young manager at the expense of Fulham. TK biggest mistake is appointing Parker.

How specifically did Parker fail to get those players scoring again? He's moved them all over the pitch. What exactly would you do with them? I'm genuinely curious. Because, to me, the fault is at those players not taking advantage of their chances. At some point in time, the manager can't be blamed for that.

Bing, Bang, Boom. Spot on. Contrary to what many seem to believe, the game isn't FIFA or PES... the manager doesn't select the team and then play as them on the field as well. His team selections are generally speaking solid, but the substance within the players lets him down more than any decision he makes... some individual selections at times are questionable though, but he's the one on the training pitch each week, not you, me, or anyone else.

So why do teams bother to change managers? Why do teams bother with Pep or Klopp when some guy who manages the local pub team would do it cheaper?

Coaches change players. For good and for bad. Systems changes players for good and for bad. There is literally hundreds of examples and lots of FUlham ones I've listed over the last few months but lets go with the most recent and glaring example. Gary Neville said this last week.

"Klopp makes £30mil players perform like £130mil players. Whereas there are some in these league who have £130mil players playing like £30mil players".

The power of coaching and managing.

If its just a case of picking them in their right position, maybe trying out a couple of positions, and the rest is down to them, we could do it. And, I don't know about you, but I'd do it for free for my beloved Fulham (just in case you're reading and want to save a few quid, Tony!).

Utter nonsense. This is all on Parker.