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The Official Silly Season January Transfer Thread 2020/21

Started by Friendsoffulham, December 20, 2020, 03:59:41 PM

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FFC1987

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nearly 4 times better than cav though.

No, not even nearly. Cav scored 6 in 43 (7 assists) a division higher than him last season, so not sure where you get the "4 times better" from???


Cav is his new favourite thing to scapegoat, he could score 10 goals between now and the end of the season and Ben would still call him crap
well no i wouldnt. but lets be honest we will be lucky if he scores another goal between now and the end of the season, such are his terrible stats. just out of interest, what do you blame for our shocking attack this season.

Lack of transfer activity in squad depth for strikers. Its the main reason I think we'll go down. I look at all the teams around us and we clearly have the worst depth for goals.
wait, so you want a new striker, not to replace cav i presume as that would be scapegoating wouldn't it?

Not really sure why you think this is a gotcha. I specifically said lack of squad depth so it would be more of a rotation point than a replacement. We also have a complete lack of depth up top as you well know so its common sense.

I don't think we are light up top. We have cav who is doing a wonderful job and mitro on the bench. Another striker would be pointless.

Ok well, for what its worth, I never said you were making Cav the scapegoat as he's been deserving of criticism for his lack of goals but i've given you the reason for the lack of goals in this team/squad. Or at least my reason.
yes I know it wasn't you, I was just pointing out that some think any negative criticism of cav is scape  goating. Yes we need a decent striker up top because he won't use mitro and cav is useless as a striker, there's literally no other way to put it. If he was doing well then Parker himself wouldn't have openly stated we need a striker.

I disagree about not using Mitro. He has fitness issues that I think are quite transparent. From the outside, it looks like he's working hard to come back fighting fit so I think he could well feature a lot more once match fit again.

S.F.Sorrow

Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 04, 2021, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 04, 2021, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PM
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Hmmm?
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.

Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).

Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.

Our games in hand are against Spurs and Burnley (away). Realisticly I expect 0 to 1 points from these two games, which won't be enough.

We desperately need a striker and a RW but if we spend a lot of money this window and are relegated anyway we will be in SERIOUS trouble next season. We could easily find ourselves closer to League One than promotion back to the PL.

Spending a lot of money this window will be a HUGE financial gamble which isn't something we usually do. I don't expect much more than a couple of uninspiring loans from some mid-level European league this window. We can still avoid relegation of course but I'm not very optimistic.

Define lots of money? Bear in mind we've not spent much this year.

Enough money to buy a PL quality striker = lots of money.

Brexit will probably inflate prices too for anyone with a work permit or likely to get a work permit. We can't expect our usual "stats signings" from Benfica B or French Ligue 2 to get a work permit now can we? But maybe that's not such a bad thing, lol.

Denzil Dexter

Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 05, 2021, 12:00:09 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 04, 2021, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 04, 2021, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PM
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Hmmm?
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.

Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).

Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.

Our games in hand are against Spurs and Burnley (away). Realisticly I expect 0 to 1 points from these two games, which won't be enough.

We desperately need a striker and a RW but if we spend a lot of money this window and are relegated anyway we will be in SERIOUS trouble next season. We could easily find ourselves closer to League One than promotion back to the PL.

Spending a lot of money this window will be a HUGE financial gamble which isn't something we usually do. I don't expect much more than a couple of uninspiring loans from some mid-level European league this window. We can still avoid relegation of course but I'm not very optimistic.

Define lots of money? Bear in mind we've not spent much this year.

Enough money to buy a PL quality striker = lots of money.

Brexit will probably inflate prices too for anyone with a work permit or likely to get a work permit. We can't expect our usual "stats signings" from Benfica B or French Ligue 2 to get a work permit now can we? But maybe that's not such a bad thing, lol.
Yeah maybe we'll start signing some decent youngsters from lower leagues. Stop Brentford from getting them.

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The Rational Fan

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Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 04, 2021, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 04, 2021, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PM
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Hmmm?
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.

Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).

Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.

Our games in hand are against Spurs and Burnley (away). Realisticly I expect 0 to 1 points from these two games, which won't be enough.

We desperately need a striker and a RW but if we spend a lot of money this window and are relegated anyway we will be in SERIOUS trouble next season. We could easily find ourselves closer to League One than promotion back to the PL.

Spending a lot of money this window will be a HUGE financial gamble which isn't something we usually do. I don't expect much more than a couple of uninspiring loans from some mid-level European league this window. We can still avoid relegation of course but I'm not very optimistic.

Define lots of money? Bear in mind we've not spent much this year.

A lot of money is £25m, which would have bought this season i) five top championship players such as Scott McKenna, Ovie Ejaria, Matheus Pereira, Kamil Jozwiak, and Ivan Toney; or ii) one mid-table premier league center-forward such as Fábio Silva, Álvaro Morata, Ollie Watkins, Rodrigo, Rhian Brewster or Callum Wilson (or £15m for Karlan Grant).

Spending £25m on one player is a huge financial gamble, whereas investing in several players over several years should pay dividends, either by uncovering a premier league star and helping us in the championship XI/ EPL bench.

We probably have enough money for a top-quality striker, but are we sure we want to have spent all our FFP budget this winter and have no money for new wingers in the championship when Knockaert, Kamara, Cav, Reid, and Kebano is all we have.

Note, Sheffield United will have the money to upgrade significantly their squad in the summer with championship players, plus they already have a good collection of young stars with three seasons of parachute payments that will deliver and resell well.

Statto

Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 05, 2021, 12:00:09 AM
Enough money to buy a PL quality striker = lots of money.

Brexit will probably inflate prices too for anyone with a work permit or likely to get a work permit. We can't expect our usual "stats signings" from Benfica B or French Ligue 2 to get a work permit now can we? But maybe that's not such a bad thing, lol.

But would we be happy with a cheap unknown from the French or Portuguese second tier as a starting XI PL striker anyway? I don't know the intricacies of it and maybe it will make it harder to sign another AK47 but anyone who's PL quality (eg the next Anguissa or the Benfica lad, Florentino Luis, we were linked with in the summer) shouldn't have a problem.

Bassey the warrior

Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 05, 2021, 02:00:00 AM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 04, 2021, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 04, 2021, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PM
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Hmmm?
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.

Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).

Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.

Our games in hand are against Spurs and Burnley (away). Realisticly I expect 0 to 1 points from these two games, which won't be enough.

We desperately need a striker and a RW but if we spend a lot of money this window and are relegated anyway we will be in SERIOUS trouble next season. We could easily find ourselves closer to League One than promotion back to the PL.

Spending a lot of money this window will be a HUGE financial gamble which isn't something we usually do. I don't expect much more than a couple of uninspiring loans from some mid-level European league this window. We can still avoid relegation of course but I'm not very optimistic.

Define lots of money? Bear in mind we've not spent much this year.

A lot of money is £25m, which would have bought this season i) five top championship players such as Scott McKenna, Ovie Ejaria, Matheus Pereira, Kamil Jozwiak, and Ivan Toney; or ii) one mid-table premier league center-forward such as Fábio Silva, Álvaro Morata, Ollie Watkins, Rodrigo, Rhian Brewster or Callum Wilson (or £15m for Karlan Grant).

Spending £25m on one player is a huge financial gamble, whereas investing in several players over several years should pay dividends, either by uncovering a premier league star and helping us in the championship XI/ EPL bench.

We probably have enough money for a top-quality striker, but are we sure we want to have spent all our FFP budget this winter and have no money for new wingers in the championship when Knockaert, Kamara, Cav, Reid, and Kebano is all we have.

Note, Sheffield United will have the money to upgrade significantly their squad in the summer with championship players, plus they already have a good collection of young stars with three seasons of parachute payments that will deliver and resell well.

I guess it boils down to whether you think we can stay up, because if you do we should take the risk. I think we can.
If you go for a budget striker then it's a self-fulfilling prophecy we'll go down.

That being said we don't know for sure that we can't get in quality for under £25 million.


grandad

Looking at the recent Championship games, there are quite a few strikers banging in goals on a regular basis. Any of them would be better than Cav,Kebano & Kamara. Scoring a goal is no different in the Championship than the PL.It still has to hit the back of the net.
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The Cravenette

I never get why some people seem to think we should be investing for another Championship season.  We are not even half way through this Premier League season yet; a league we have been in previously for a number of years and have aspired to be promoted into every time we drop to the Championship.

Let's have some forward positive thinking.  We buy a decent striker now and we can continue to improve and stay up.  Villa stayed up by the skin of their teeth last season and look at them now.

COYW!  049:gif

Steven Ageroad

Quote from: grandad on January 05, 2021, 09:48:38 AM
Looking at the recent Championship games, there are quite a few strikers banging in goals on a regular basis. Any of them would be better than Cav,Kebano & Kamara. Scoring a goal is no different in the Championship than the PL.It still has to hit the back of the net.

Tell that to Mitro!


Slaphead in Qatar

Marko Arnautovic is available. Remember him ?  May be worth a punt. Reasonable goalscorer.

sunburywhite

Arnautovic is on around £230,000 per week in Shanghai
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EricB

#231
Fulham keen to boost Premier League survival bid with January move for Newcastle striker Dwight Gayle... and Scott Parker's side could offer up incentivised deal where fee increases if he keeps them in the league



Fulham are looking into a January deal for Newcastle striker Dwight Gayle
Scott Parker is targeting reinforcements in attack to boost their survival hopes
Gayle has six months remaining on his deal and could be made available now


By ADRIAN KAJUMBA FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 13:27, 5 January 2021 | UPDATED: 13:30, 5 January 2021

Fulham have reignited their interest in Newcastle striker Dwight Gayle.

Gayle has just six months left on his current contract but long-standing admirers Fulham are keen to take him this month rather than wait until the summer.

They have discussed trying to persuade Newcastle with an incentivised deal that will involve a small fee now and increase if Gayle, 31, were to help keep Fulham in the Premier League this season.

Dwight Gayle has become a leading January target for Fulham boss Scott Parker   +3
Parker has been an admirer of Gayle for some time and the striker is on the transfer block with six months left on his current

Fulham are third bottom and three points from safety but with two games in hand due to the postponement of their games against Tottenham and Burnley in the last week following a coronavirus outbreak.

They are short of striking alternatives to Aleksandar Mitrovic and manager Scott Parker has opted to field a team without a recognised frontman in recent weeks when he has been unavailable.

Fulham face competition for Gayle from clubs in the Middle East, who are also monitoring his situation with his deal running out.

Qatari duo Al-Gharafa, managed by former Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic, and Al-Duhail, led by ex-Nottingham Forest boss Sabri Lamouchi, are both keen along with Saudi side Al-Shabab.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9114501/Fulham-keen-January-Newcastle-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html


Slaphead in Qatar

Quote from: EricB on January 05, 2021, 01:40:53 PM
Fulham keen to boost Premier League survival bid with January move for Newcastle striker Dwight Gayle... and Scott Parker's side could offer up incentivised deal where fee increases if he keeps them in the league



Fulham are looking into a January deal for Newcastle striker Dwight Gayle
Scott Parker is targeting reinforcements in attack to boost their survival hopes
Gayle has six months remaining on his deal and could be made available now


By ADRIAN KAJUMBA FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 13:27, 5 January 2021 | UPDATED: 13:30, 5 January 2021

Fulham have reignited their interest in Newcastle striker Dwight Gayle.

Gayle has just six months left on his current contract but long-standing admirers Fulham are keen to take him this month rather than wait until the summer.

They have discussed trying to persuade Newcastle with an incentivised deal that will involve a small fee now and increase if Gayle, 31, were to help keep Fulham in the Premier League this season.

Dwight Gayle has become a leading January target for Fulham boss Scott Parker   +3
Parker has been an admirer of Gayle for some time and the striker is on the transfer block with six months left on his current

Fulham are third bottom and three points from safety but with two games in hand due to the postponement of their games against Tottenham and Burnley in the last week following a coronavirus outbreak.

They are short of striking alternatives to Aleksandar Mitrovic and manager Scott Parker has opted to field a team without a recognised frontman in recent weeks when he has been unavailable.

Fulham face competition for Gayle from clubs in the Middle East, who are also monitoring his situation with his deal running out.

Qatari duo Al-Gharafa, managed by former Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic, and Al-Duhail, led by ex-Nottingham Forest boss Sabri Lamouchi, are both keen along with Saudi side Al-Shabab.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9114501/Fulham-keen-January-Newcastle-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html

Be very happy if we get him.

Craven Mad

Gayle would be a good fit, but I'd be surprised if Toon wanted to strengthen us right now. It wouldn't take much for them to be pulled into the scrap...

grandad

Where there's a will there's a wife


Jimsbeerbelly

Quote from: Craven Mad on January 05, 2021, 02:04:29 PM
Gayle would be a good fit, but I'd be surprised if Toon wanted to strengthen us right now. It wouldn't take much for them to be pulled into the scrap...

Only has 6 months left on his deal, and, has been itching to move back down south for a while. If Newcastle don't sell now, they risk him moving on in the summer for nothing. We'd get him relatively cheap, and, if we stay up, Newcastle would get more money.

I actually see this move making more sense this time around, and more likely to come off.

Lighthouse

It doesn't matter about plague, pestilence, riots, hurricanes , holes in the ozone layer, invaders from Mars. We always can be assured that the annual Dwight Gayle rumour will soon be coming is never far away. The first thing this season that has felt like normality.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

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Huxley

Quote from: Lighthouse on January 05, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
It doesn't matter about plague, pestilence, riots, hurricanes , holes in the ozone layer, invaders from Mars. We always can be assured that the annual Dwight Gayle rumour will soon be coming is never far away. The first thing this season that has felt like normality.

Surely Carlton Cole is available...


Maidstone Lee

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jeffc4golf

Is he any better than we already got in my opinion his not we're always linked with this guy plus his a sick note