Clubs from Spain, Germany and the Premier League, including Everton, Crystal Palace and Fulham are closely watching Fenerbahce midfielder Ozan Tufan. The Turkish Süper Lig team are looking for in the region of €20m for the player. [.@Ekremkonur] #FFC #CPFC #EFC pic.twitter.com/9EqGtCoM4h
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Quote from: Mullers OG on December 20, 2020, 05:37:42 PMSpot on Mullers.
It's a striker we need with pace and running. If we are to remain a premier league club we must have an upgrade on Kamara as our back up striker who's simply not good enough.
Yesterday was a classic example where we dominated in the first half but failed to capitalise. LC isn't a striker but he's the only viable alternative to Mitro. U.K.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on December 20, 2020, 04:13:37 PMClubs from Spain, Germany and the Premier League, including Everton, Crystal Palace and Fulham are closely watching Fenerbahce midfielder Ozan Tufan. The Turkish Süper Lig team are looking for in the region of €20m for the player. [.@Ekremkonur] #FFC #CPFC #EFC pic.twitter.com/9EqGtCoM4h
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Quote from: LC on December 21, 2020, 12:52:23 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on December 20, 2020, 04:13:37 PMClubs from Spain, Germany and the Premier League, including Everton, Crystal Palace and Fulham are closely watching Fenerbahce midfielder Ozan Tufan. The Turkish Süper Lig team are looking for in the region of €20m for the player. [.@Ekremkonur] #FFC #CPFC #EFC pic.twitter.com/9EqGtCoM4h
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Seri spent last season on loan at Turkey so a part exchange for Seri would actually make a lot of sense. And I would take it.
Quote from: LC on December 21, 2020, 01:17:55 AM
It will be an interesting transfer window for sure.
We're desperate for a forward, what we really need is someone who can run in and behind the lines rather than a Mitrovic type forward- a Louis Saha type forward is what we need. (Btw still a Mitrovic fan- I wouldn't sell him I would keep him but he wouldn't be my starting forward).
I'm interested to see whether TK will try and convert some of our loan signings to permanent deals this winter window (I expect not). I imagine Areola, Lookman and Andersen will only stay if we stay up, but I think the others might be possible. I would value those 3 at £50-55m. I read somewhere that Lemina and Aina have options exercisable in the summer for 6m and 10m. TK has converted some of our previous loan signings ahead of time before so I'm just interested to see if he tries to do the same this time around.
On another note, we have a lot of players on the books- we might see a few leave. If we stay up this year I would look to move on the following: Odoi, Ream, K-Mac, Johansen, AK, Fabri, Onomah, Seri, MLM, Christie, Mawson, Knockaert and lastly Betts (although I would be very sad to see him go).
Anyway, we need a striker as a priority and if we get that done early enough then a right sided forward.
Quote from: roberto w6 on December 21, 2020, 03:19:44 PMQuote from: LC on December 21, 2020, 01:17:55 AM
It will be an interesting transfer window for sure.
We're desperate for a forward, what we really need is someone who can run in and behind the lines rather than a Mitrovic type forward- a Louis Saha type forward is what we need. (Btw still a Mitrovic fan- I wouldn't sell him I would keep him but he wouldn't be my starting forward).
I'm interested to see whether TK will try and convert some of our loan signings to permanent deals this winter window (I expect not). I imagine Areola, Lookman and Andersen will only stay if we stay up, but I think the others might be possible. I would value those 3 at £50-55m. I read somewhere that Lemina and Aina have options exercisable in the summer for 6m and 10m. TK has converted some of our previous loan signings ahead of time before so I'm just interested to see if he tries to do the same this time around.
On another note, we have a lot of players on the books- we might see a few leave. If we stay up this year I would look to move on the following: Odoi, Ream, K-Mac, Johansen, AK, Fabri, Onomah, Seri, MLM, Christie, Mawson, Knockaert and lastly Betts (although I would be very sad to see him go).
Anyway, we need a striker as a priority and if we get that done early enough then a right sided forward.
I absolutely agree with you about the qualities for a new striker and needing a right-sided forward.
Like you. I'd also try and convert the loans of Areola, Andersen, Lookman and Lemina. Together with Anguissa and Robinson, these 4 form the nucleus of a team which I could see doing very well and holding their own in the PL over many seasons provided we add another 5 of that standard. I'd happily let Aina and RLC go from what I've seen, although I guess there is still a remote chance that RLC may wake up and deliver but I doubt it. Aina just doesn't cut it for me
Regarding letting the others go, I would definitely keep Onamah and possibly Christie and StefJo. I think we have to be honest: if we keep these players and the others you mention out of PL match-day squads and then start playing them again if we know we're going down - what the hell do we really expect from them? You'd almost have a situation where they'd be playing well enough to keep their place but not well enough to get promoted because they know they'd be frozen out again if w ego up. We'd be better off letting them go now and rebuilding if we go down. Personally, I think Onamah and StefJo could still play a role on the fringes of the squad for us. Sorry but I can't see that if we'd played one of them instead of TC on Saturday that they'd have done any better or worse. KMac always struck me as an intelligent player who knows the club well, I'm not sure of his relationship with SP but, if good, he might be useful to add to the coaching staff.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 21, 2020, 06:36:01 PM
Offer Brentford 8 mill for Toney
Quote from: rebel on December 21, 2020, 01:01:27 PM
Ryan Babel would be 'quality' if the club can go down that route, the pace is already in the team, the finishing just isn't. He knows the club and the Prem.
Quote from: jayffc on December 22, 2020, 08:27:41 PM
I think Origi is a great shout if hed come to us. Hes been linked with us a few times in the past so may well be on the radar. If we have the dosh to get him in I'd be pleased with that! Might have better options though
Quote from: JimOG on December 22, 2020, 08:34:29 PMQuote from: jayffc on December 22, 2020, 08:27:41 PM
I think Origi is a great shout if hed come to us. Hes been linked with us a few times in the past so may well be on the radar. If we have the dosh to get him in I'd be pleased with that! Might have better options though
Yep realistic target, quick but not so prolific to attract the Big Boys
Quote from: Deeping_white on December 21, 2020, 06:23:21 PM
Josh King would be a best bet for a striker with pace and PL experience and also has 6 months left so will be sold in Jan. I think we need another RW too unless Cav plays there so potentially Demarai Gray, who although wouldn't be my first choice, may also be an option for a player looking to kickstart his career again and would stay should we go down. Think we'd also be able to structure deals by saying we'll pay X now and X if we don't get relegated which should entice teams as we could offer more via those clauses
Quote from: WolverineFFC on December 22, 2020, 01:05:28 PMQuote from: rebel on December 21, 2020, 01:01:27 PM
Ryan Babel would be 'quality' if the club can go down that route, the pace is already in the team, the finishing just isn't. He knows the club and the Prem.
I have not seen much of Babel since he left Fulham, but if he is 80% of the player he was when he left Fulham he would be an improvement on Cav and Kamara for the direct #9. Certainly a better option than Kebano off the bench.
He knows the team and can get up to speed in the Premier League quickly. It also allows the club the remainder of the window to take a swing for the fences for another attacking player.
Quote from: sarnian on December 22, 2020, 11:04:49 PM
King's 6 goals last season in the premiership isn't very prolific. Is he really what we need.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 22, 2020, 11:34:21 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 22, 2020, 11:04:49 PM
King's 6 goals last season in the premiership isn't very prolific. Is he really what we need.
Josh King will cost a lot of money for one player, we need to decide if we should instead spend the money on four or five championship players instead (like Jed Wallace), that we could need next year.
Quote from: JEEVES on December 22, 2020, 11:49:43 PMSurely jed Wallace is a joke suggestionQuote from: The Rational Fan on December 22, 2020, 11:34:21 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 22, 2020, 11:04:49 PM
King's 6 goals last season in the premiership isn't very prolific. Is he really what we need.
Josh King will cost a lot of money for one player, we need to decide if we should instead spend the money on four or five championship players instead (like Jed Wallace), that we could need next year.
I would be fuming if our board had your mentality and started buying championship players preparing for the championship. Ambitious aren't you. It's amazing how different our views are. Most of us sitting here thinking we can get a better striker than Josh king and you say he's a bit pricey and we should go for Jed Wallace 😂 wow.
PREMIER league quality players. We want PREMIER league quality players to help us stay up and play for us next year in the.. PREMIER league. What are we Cardiff with Warnock as our manager?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 22, 2020, 11:34:21 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 22, 2020, 11:04:49 PM
King's 6 goals last season in the premiership isn't very prolific. Is he really what we need.
Josh King will cost a lot of money for one player, we need to decide if we should instead spend the money on four or five championship players instead (like Jed Wallace), that we could need next year.
Quote from: LC on December 23, 2020, 12:02:32 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on December 22, 2020, 11:34:21 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 22, 2020, 11:04:49 PM
King's 6 goals last season in the premiership isn't very prolific. Is he really what we need.
Josh King will cost a lot of money for one player, we need to decide if we should instead spend the money on four or five championship players instead (like Jed Wallace), that we could need next year.
His contract expires in the summer and he's not playing for Bournemouth at the moment- he won't cost a lot at all. Probably up to £5m maximum, although I would start by offering a lot less.
My list of forwards would be:
Joshua King
Danilo (FC Twente)
Paco Alcácer
Kasper Dolberg
Ivan Toney
I have tried to give a real mixture on the list above. I personally think under the right circumstances we could bring any of them to the club.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 22, 2020, 11:34:21 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 22, 2020, 11:04:49 PM
King's 6 goals last season in the premiership isn't very prolific. Is he really what we need.
Josh King will cost a lot of money for one player, we need to decide if we should instead spend the money on four or five championship players instead (like Jed Wallace), that we could need next year.
Quote from: FulhamStu on December 23, 2020, 08:55:49 AM
When I watched a Bournemouth game a month or so ago, I watched King very closely. He did virtually nothing, was not their best striker and looked a bit of a poser. Now maybe he is not giving his all as he wants out, just saying what I saw. Also, I watched quite a bit of Toney live for Shrewsbury and he was nothing great and I would say that Toney is miles off a premier striker. We need too get an Andersen or Tosin, someone with ability not getting current game time. I still think a loan is most likely and would spend money trying to convert to Perm one of our loans. Probably in this order. 1. Andersen. 2. Lookman 3. Lemina. 4. Aina. Forget RLC and even though Areola is great think our future keeper should be Rodak and we don't need to break the bank on Areola. Having said that don't think Andersen or Lookman would sign so go for Lemina or/and Aina and bring in a loan striker or 2.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on December 23, 2020, 09:54:58 AM
Adam Armstrong at Blackburn would be a great signing. 15 in 18 in the Championship this season and only 18 months left of his contract. Only 23 so fits our recruitment policy. We'll probably have to look at home players this window due to the current situation.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on December 23, 2020, 09:54:58 AM
Adam Armstrong at Blackburn would be a great signing. 15 in 18 in the Championship this season and only 18 months left of his contract. Only 23 so fits our recruitment policy. We'll probably have to look at home players this window due to the current situation.
Quote from: Arthur on December 23, 2020, 12:35:08 PM
Perhaps an advantage we now have over the summer transfer window is that, back then, any striker coming to the Club was looking at playing second fiddle to Mitrovic. Any striker we approach for January will know he's joining us to come into our starting XI. This may help us attract a better player.
Quote from: Jeroen on December 23, 2020, 01:53:50 PM
Would you change RLC for Delle?!?! To be honest not so sure - RLC brings power in our midfield where Delle would be a luxe player not bothered helping defence out (don't get me wrong Delle passing would be amazing, but not sure we need him right now)
Quote from: jayffc on December 23, 2020, 12:30:59 PMAgree with this, don't see Armstrong as prem qualityQuote from: Maidstone Lee on December 23, 2020, 09:54:58 AM
Adam Armstrong at Blackburn would be a great signing. 15 in 18 in the Championship this season and only 18 months left of his contract. Only 23 so fits our recruitment policy. We'll probably have to look at home players this window due to the current situation.
Not convinced by him in honesty, a number of the goals have been from the spot (yes I appreciate that might have been useful this year) but I think his goal stats flatter at the moment. I might be proved wrong later but watching a fair bit if footage of him he doesn't scream premier league quality to me.... hes pacey enough at that level (and more so then Mitro of course) but not lightning fast and alot if the time I see him hes doing seemingly impressive things but I'm often left thinking- he wouldnt get away with that in the prem...wouldnt be surprised if he becomes one of those Chris Martin type players. A good bet for goals in the champ but not really likely a consistent a cut above that. Perhaps Dwight Gayle a kinder comparison.
As I say, that's just my initial instincts looking at his skillset.
Would much prefer the likes of Origi
Quote from: roberto w6 on December 23, 2020, 01:19:15 PMNo thanks
Just hearing on TalkSport how Dele Alli and Jesse Lingard are both looking to move on to get first team football.
It said PSG and Leicester were favourites respectively
If those deals fell through I wonder whether we could be in the frame for loans until the end of the season? Especially Alli with Scott's Spurs links.
I've seen both play looking like Pele and, conversely, both play looking totally anonymous. They could both easily end up being another RLC. Probably wouldn't happen anyway...
Quote from: Andyb on December 23, 2020, 04:16:18 PM
Make a hugely ambitious move for adama traore, not starting for wolves...
Quote from: LC on December 23, 2020, 08:22:46 PMNo different to Kamara - very quick but no real end productQuote from: Andyb on December 23, 2020, 04:16:18 PM
Make a hugely ambitious move for adama traore, not starting for wolves...
Would be an awesome signing
Quote from: LC on December 23, 2020, 08:22:13 PM
I guess everyone is already on the mulled wine ayyy.
Dele Ali is absolutely better than what we currently have. There have been many many cases where top class players have massively underperformed under Jose, Ali is obviously one of them. He would never join us anyway, but if we were able to secure him on loan then we should absolutely go for it.
One Tottenham player I would love at Fulham is Harry Winks. If we could swap RLC for him then I absolutely would- Winks might even join permanent under the right conditions. Btw, I still think RLC will come good.
Our first priority this window is a striker and the club must deliver.
Quote from: Statto on December 23, 2020, 10:29:21 PM😀😀.
Apparently Leeds are looking at Traore. Their DoF worked with him at Middlesbrough. Perhaps we can exploit our own DoF's connections in the same way, with a cheeky bid for Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
Quote from: JEEVES on December 23, 2020, 12:36:20 AMWithout looking it up, the last half decent player we got from Brentford was Kelly Hague.Quote from: LC on December 23, 2020, 12:02:32 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on December 22, 2020, 11:34:21 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 22, 2020, 11:04:49 PM
King's 6 goals last season in the premiership isn't very prolific. Is he really what we need.
Josh King will cost a lot of money for one player, we need to decide if we should instead spend the money on four or five championship players instead (like Jed Wallace), that we could need next year.
His contract expires in the summer and he's not playing for Bournemouth at the moment- he won't cost a lot at all. Probably up to £5m maximum, although I would start by offering a lot less.
My list of forwards would be:
Joshua King
Danilo (FC Twente)
Paco Alcácer
Kasper Dolberg
Ivan Toney
I have tried to give a real mixture on the list above. I personally think under the right circumstances we could bring any of them to the club.
But why even suggest Ivan Toney? It's even more unlikely than the people who kept calling for us to sign Benrahma and Watkins after the playoff final. Brentford will NEVER sell us a good player. Their board simply won't do it out of respect for their fans. Only player I've seen come to us in my lifetime is David button and clearly they all had a laugh when that transfer went through. Missed the boat on Toney, should have gone for him before he put pen to paper with brentford. He literally just signed for them he's not goin anywhere.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on December 23, 2020, 10:51:30 PMQuote from: LC on December 23, 2020, 08:22:13 PM
I guess everyone is already on the mulled wine ayyy.
Dele Ali is absolutely better than what we currently have. There have been many many cases where top class players have massively underperformed under Jose, Ali is obviously one of them. He would never join us anyway, but if we were able to secure him on loan then we should absolutely go for it.
One Tottenham player I would love at Fulham is Harry Winks. If we could swap RLC for him then I absolutely would- Winks might even join permanent under the right conditions. Btw, I still think RLC will come good.
Our first priority this window is a striker and the club must deliver.
Winks plays Anguissa's position, so it's a no from me. Yes to Alli but that won't happen.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 23, 2020, 09:33:04 PMQuote from: LC on December 23, 2020, 08:22:46 PMNo different to Kamara - very quick but no real end productQuote from: Andyb on December 23, 2020, 04:16:18 PM
Make a hugely ambitious move for adama traore, not starting for wolves...
Would be an awesome signing
Quote from: LC on December 24, 2020, 02:55:10 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on December 23, 2020, 10:51:30 PMQuote from: LC on December 23, 2020, 08:22:13 PM
I guess everyone is already on the mulled wine ayyy.
Dele Ali is absolutely better than what we currently have. There have been many many cases where top class players have massively underperformed under Jose, Ali is obviously one of them. He would never join us anyway, but if we were able to secure him on loan then we should absolutely go for it.
One Tottenham player I would love at Fulham is Harry Winks. If we could swap RLC for him then I absolutely would- Winks might even join permanent under the right conditions. Btw, I still think RLC will come good.
Our first priority this window is a striker and the club must deliver.
Winks plays Anguissa's position, so it's a no from me. Yes to Alli but that won't happen.
They are completely different players. Nothing remotely similar.
To put a old Fulham spin on it- Anguissa plays the Moussa Dembele mrk1 type role, and Winks plays in the Danny Murphy role. To this day we never replaced Murphy and that has been a huge mistake.
Quote from: LC on December 24, 2020, 02:55:10 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on December 23, 2020, 10:51:30 PMQuote from: LC on December 23, 2020, 08:22:13 PM
I guess everyone is already on the mulled wine ayyy.
Dele Ali is absolutely better than what we currently have. There have been many many cases where top class players have massively underperformed under Jose, Ali is obviously one of them. He would never join us anyway, but if we were able to secure him on loan then we should absolutely go for it.
One Tottenham player I would love at Fulham is Harry Winks. If we could swap RLC for him then I absolutely would- Winks might even join permanent under the right conditions. Btw, I still think RLC will come good.
Our first priority this window is a striker and the club must deliver.
Winks plays Anguissa's position, so it's a no from me. Yes to Alli but that won't happen.
They are completely different players. Nothing remotely similar.
To put a old Fulham spin on it- Anguissa plays the Moussa Dembele mrk1 type role, and Winks plays in the Danny Murphy role. To this day we never replaced Murphy and that has been a huge mistake.
Quote from: bencher on December 24, 2020, 12:22:05 PMQuote from: LC on December 24, 2020, 02:55:10 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on December 23, 2020, 10:51:30 PMQuote from: LC on December 23, 2020, 08:22:13 PM
I guess everyone is already on the mulled wine ayyy.
Dele Ali is absolutely better than what we currently have. There have been many many cases where top class players have massively underperformed under Jose, Ali is obviously one of them. He would never join us anyway, but if we were able to secure him on loan then we should absolutely go for it.
One Tottenham player I would love at Fulham is Harry Winks. If we could swap RLC for him then I absolutely would- Winks might even join permanent under the right conditions. Btw, I still think RLC will come good.
Our first priority this window is a striker and the club must deliver.
Winks plays Anguissa's position, so it's a no from me. Yes to Alli but that won't happen.
They are completely different players. Nothing remotely similar.
To put a old Fulham spin on it- Anguissa plays the Moussa Dembele mrk1 type role, and Winks plays in the Danny Murphy role. To this day we never replaced Murphy and that has been a huge mistake.
If we're going back through Fulham players that haven't been replaced, can we first have a replacement for Johnny Haynes, and then one for Alan Mullery? etc etc
In our current squad, then Cairney when played in the deeper role is the closest we have to the Murphy type midfielder. Not as effective, not his best position either, but the nearest comparison.
Quote from: filham on December 24, 2020, 10:10:12 AM
Lots of speculation on who we would like to see joining us but no strong rumours. Lets hope we have something lined up and TK is just playing his cards close to his chest. He must be aware that one new striker could make the difference between relegation and survival.
Quote from: MrFFC on December 25, 2020, 07:19:12 AM
I think Demarai Gray from Leicester to go RM would be a great addition personally
Quote from: MrFFC on December 25, 2020, 07:19:12 AM
I think Demarai Gray from Leicester to go RM would be a great addition personally
Quote from: LC on December 24, 2020, 05:22:43 PMLets stop dreaming and clear this one up:-Quote from: bencher on December 24, 2020, 12:22:05 PMQuote from: LC on December 24, 2020, 02:55:10 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on December 23, 2020, 10:51:30 PMQuote from: LC on December 23, 2020, 08:22:13 PM
I guess everyone is already on the mulled wine ayyy.
Dele Ali is absolutely better than what we currently have. There have been many many cases where top class players have massively underperformed under Jose, Ali is obviously one of them. He would never join us anyway, but if we were able to secure him on loan then we should absolutely go for it.
One Tottenham player I would love at Fulham is Harry Winks. If we could swap RLC for him then I absolutely would- Winks might even join permanent under the right conditions. Btw, I still think RLC will come good.
Our first priority this window is a striker and the club must deliver.
Winks plays Anguissa's position, so it's a no from me. Yes to Alli but that won't happen.
They are completely different players. Nothing remotely similar.
To put a old Fulham spin on it- Anguissa plays the Moussa Dembele mrk1 type role, and Winks plays in the Danny Murphy role. To this day we never replaced Murphy and that has been a huge mistake.
If we're going back through Fulham players that haven't been replaced, can we first have a replacement for Johnny Haynes, and then one for Alan Mullery? etc etc
In our current squad, then Cairney when played in the deeper role is the closest we have to the Murphy type midfielder. Not as effective, not his best position either, but the nearest comparison.
Well in fairness you I hear it's a little tricky to replace one of the greatest passers of the ball in the history of the game- The Maestro
Quote from: Moltobueno on December 28, 2020, 07:08:49 AM
Anguissa is as good as Pogba, so if we're going to sell him (read: lose him), hopefully the price tag matches - around £60-70M I suppose?
Quote from: Whitestone on December 28, 2020, 07:17:45 AMQuote from: Moltobueno on December 28, 2020, 07:08:49 AM
Anguissa is as good as Pogba, so if we're going to sell him (read: lose him), hopefully the price tag matches - around £60-70M I suppose?
Frank is a top player but to say he's as good as Pogba is stretching it a bit. If he wants to achieve what Pogba's has he needs to add goals to his game.
Quote from: Whitestone on December 28, 2020, 07:17:45 AMQuote from: Moltobueno on December 28, 2020, 07:08:49 AM
Anguissa is as good as Pogba, so if we're going to sell him (read: lose him), hopefully the price tag matches - around £60-70M I suppose?
Frank is a top player but to say he's as good as Pogba is stretching it a bit. If he wants to achieve what Pogba's has he needs to add goals to his game.
Quote from: MrFFC on December 25, 2020, 07:19:12 AMAgree 100%. This lad has it all in his locker, including goals too.
I think Demarai Gray from Leicester to go RM would be a great addition personally
Quote from: Riversider on December 28, 2020, 09:10:36 PM
Lyon are apparently having some financial issues, is there a chance that we could prise Toko Ekambi away from them ?
He got off to a sluggish start for them but is now scoring goals for fun,
Plenty of pace and likes to get in behind the back line , would certainly offer us something that we don't currently have.
Quote from: hopper on December 28, 2020, 10:34:25 PMQuote from: Riversider on December 28, 2020, 09:10:36 PM
Lyon are apparently having some financial issues, is there a chance that we could prise Toko Ekambi away from them ?
He got off to a sluggish start for them but is now scoring goals for fun,
Plenty of pace and likes to get in behind the back line , would certainly offer us something that we don't currently have.
They're top of the league and he is a starter at the moment so can't see us taking any Lyon starters. Kadewere looks like the brightest of their forwards, after Memphis. Moussa Dembele isn't getting many minutes there these days, but isn't going to return here.
Quote from: Inmyday75 on December 28, 2020, 08:27:05 AMQuote from: MrFFC on December 25, 2020, 07:19:12 AMAgree 100%. This lad has it all in his locker, including goals too.
I think Demarai Gray from Leicester to go RM would be a great addition personally
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on December 28, 2020, 10:50:33 PMQuote from: Inmyday75 on December 28, 2020, 08:27:05 AMQuote from: MrFFC on December 25, 2020, 07:19:12 AMAgree 100%. This lad has it all in his locker, including goals too.
I think Demarai Gray from Leicester to go RM would be a great addition personally
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Goals in his locker? He's never scored more than four in a season in the prem. 132 premier League games & 10 goals.
Quote from: Riversider on December 28, 2020, 09:10:36 PM
Lyon are apparently having some financial issues, is there a chance that we could prise Toko Ekambi away from them ?
He got off to a sluggish start for them but is now scoring goals for fun,
Plenty of pace and likes to get in behind the back line , would certainly offer us something that we don't currently have.
Quote from: river phoenix on December 29, 2020, 09:17:37 AM
Cedric Bakambu on loan maybe? Has been profilic everywhere he played, Turkey, Villarreal and now in China.
Quote from: Jim© on December 29, 2020, 12:54:33 PM
If I could pick one player to change our season (who we could probably get) I'd go for Danilo at Twente in Holland.
Looks like a proper prospect, he's only 22 I think, and scoring a goal every 1.5 games. Offer a decent loan fee, plus Fabri and Seri and a few more £s in the summer.
If we don't get him soon, he'll soon be a £25m + player.
Quote from: river phoenix on December 29, 2020, 01:50:39 PMQuote from: Jim© on December 29, 2020, 12:54:33 PM
If I could pick one player to change our season (who we could probably get) I'd go for Danilo at Twente in Holland.
Looks like a proper prospect, he's only 22 I think, and scoring a goal every 1.5 games. Offer a decent loan fee, plus Fabri and Seri and a few more £s in the summer.
If we don't get him soon, he'll soon be a £25m + player.
Owned by Ajax, on loan at Twente.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on December 29, 2020, 12:42:23 PMI've read somewhere that they're introducing a wage cap in China very soonQuote from: river phoenix on December 29, 2020, 09:17:37 AM
Cedric Bakambu on loan maybe? Has been profilic everywhere he played, Turkey, Villarreal and now in China.
That's an interesting shout. His wages would be quite high out in China I would imagine. Loan deal would be good.
Quote from: shepperton white on December 29, 2020, 02:22:26 PMWould take him right now but I think he will go to a bigger club
I see Diego Costa has terminated his contract with Athletico Madrid. He's 32 now but still a good player - so what are our chances? Maybe or not a chance in hell
Quote from: Radiowhite on December 29, 2020, 02:38:09 PMQuote from: shepperton white on December 29, 2020, 02:22:26 PMWould take him right now but I think he will go to a bigger club
I see Diego Costa has terminated his contract with Athletico Madrid. He's 32 now but still a good player - so what are our chances? Maybe or not a chance in hell
Quote from: sarnian on December 30, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
Josh King has just come on for Bournemouth after being out for weeks with a back injury. Looks quite sharp but is he too injury prone to try and buy in the transfer window.
Quote from: FFC1987 on December 30, 2020, 07:13:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 30, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
Josh King has just come on for Bournemouth after being out for weeks with a back injury. Looks quite sharp but is he too injury prone to try and buy in the transfer window.
See, I know people banged the drum about Toney before but we really could use a striker like him. Quick, strong, hard working....haven't seen much of him but really impressed tonight. I'd be Toney>King if a transfer was possible.
Edit, after the game, I thought he was brilliant. Good touch, smart decision making, absolutely working hard as a team player....
Quote from: JimOG on December 30, 2020, 07:58:19 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on December 30, 2020, 07:13:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 30, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
Josh King has just come on for Bournemouth after being out for weeks with a back injury. Looks quite sharp but is he too injury prone to try and buy in the transfer window.
See, I know people banged the drum about Toney before but we really could use a striker like him. Quick, strong, hard working....haven't seen much of him but really impressed tonight. I'd be Toney>King if a transfer was possible.
Edit, after the game, I thought he was brilliant. Good touch, smart decision making, absolutely working hard as a team player....
Toney or King? What about bidding for Solanke instead?
Quote from: FFC1987 on December 30, 2020, 07:13:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 30, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
Josh King has just come on for Bournemouth after being out for weeks with a back injury. Looks quite sharp but is he too injury prone to try and buy in the transfer window.
See, I know people banged the drum about Toney before but we really could use a striker like him. Quick, strong, hard working....haven't seen much of him but really impressed tonight. I'd be Toney>King if a transfer was possible.
Edit, after the game, I thought he was brilliant. Good touch, smart decision making, absolutely working hard as a team player....
Quote from: Asotosyios on December 31, 2020, 01:36:47 AM
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1378125/Rangers-set-challenge-Celtic-transfer-target-compared-Gareth-Bale
Rangers are expected to challenge their fierce rivals Celtic in the battle for Charlton's highly-rated wide man Alfie Doughty. Doughty has gone from relatively unknown to one of the most talked-about wide players in the Football League in the space of 14 months.
The 21-year-old was on loan at Bromley FC in the National League at the start of the 2019/20 campaign but a string of injuries saw Charlton cancel his temporary switch out of necessity.
Fast forward to the summer of 2020 and Doughty had been named the club's Young Player of the Year following an impressive 30 appearances, which included two goals.
Doughty, who is equally comfortable at left-back and left midfield, has been the subject of two bids from Celtic since the summer and is also now a reported target for city rivals Rangers, according to The Athletic.
Fulham are another club said to be keen on Doughty and he is unlikely to be short of offers in the summer, when he is set to be out of contract.
Doughty is currently out injured after requiring surgery on a hamstring tear he sustained in late October and despite expecting to be out until late January, potential suitors may still be tempted to try to beat the competition to his signature by making an approach to Charlton in the coming weeks.
Doughty is blisteringly quick and after starting out his career at left-back, has been moved higher up the pitch to wing back and then as an outright winger, even switching over to the right flank on occasions.
Any player with such a development pathway is bound to be compared to Gareth Bale moving forward but it isn't just fans and the media who have made the reference.
Charlton assistant manager Johnnie Jackson revealed he has even discussed the Bale comparison with Doughty.
"Alfie knows how quick he is," Jackson told The Athletic.
"He knows defenders know how quick he is and he doesn't overcomplicate it.
"So he'll look to go outside, like he did at Northampton, like he did when he scored the goal at Crewe earlier in the season, and just back his pace. He always looks to face up defenders and get at them.
"The one I always speak to him about — although they're completely different levels, obviously — was when Bale was at Spurs (the first time) and when he first went to Real Madrid.
"He didn't overcomplicate it. He knew he was quicker than everyone else.
"If he had space between him and the full-backs, he'd kick it past and open his legs.
"They couldn't catch him, so why do you need to do anything different when you're that quick?"
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on December 31, 2020, 02:05:05 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on December 30, 2020, 07:13:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 30, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
Josh King has just come on for Bournemouth after being out for weeks with a back injury. Looks quite sharp but is he too injury prone to try and buy in the transfer window.
See, I know people banged the drum about Toney before but we really could use a striker like him. Quick, strong, hard working....haven't seen much of him but really impressed tonight. I'd be Toney>King if a transfer was possible.
Edit, after the game, I thought he was brilliant. Good touch, smart decision making, absolutely working hard as a team player....
Agree...but in what world would Brentford do a deal with us?
Quote from: MrFFC on December 31, 2020, 09:25:53 AM
What about Sarr from Watford?
Very quick I think he would be a good addition to our attacking play
Quote from: Whitestone on December 31, 2020, 10:15:08 AMQuote from: MrFFC on December 31, 2020, 09:25:53 AM
What about Sarr from Watford?
Very quick I think he would be a good addition to our attacking play
Ismaila Sarr is exactly the sort of player we should go after. He's young, improving, played in the Prem and would be a good fit on the right.
Quote from: FFC1987 on December 31, 2020, 10:21:38 AMQuote from: Whitestone on December 31, 2020, 10:15:08 AMQuote from: MrFFC on December 31, 2020, 09:25:53 AM
What about Sarr from Watford?
Very quick I think he would be a good addition to our attacking play
Ismaila Sarr is exactly the sort of player we should go after. He's young, improving, played in the Prem and would be a good fit on the right.
Wasn't he priced out of a move in the summer with a silly 50m price tag placed on him?
Quote from: Whitestone on December 31, 2020, 10:33:39 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on December 31, 2020, 10:21:38 AMQuote from: Whitestone on December 31, 2020, 10:15:08 AMQuote from: MrFFC on December 31, 2020, 09:25:53 AM
What about Sarr from Watford?
Very quick I think he would be a good addition to our attacking play
Ismaila Sarr is exactly the sort of player we should go after. He's young, improving, played in the Prem and would be a good fit on the right.
Wasn't he priced out of a move in the summer with a silly 50m price tag placed on him?
I think you're right and not surprisingly there weren't any takers. Must be worth approaching Watford They may be interested if the offer is sensible. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Quote from: FFC1987 on December 30, 2020, 08:14:51 PMQuote from: JimOG on December 30, 2020, 07:58:19 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on December 30, 2020, 07:13:11 PMQuote from: sarnian on December 30, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
Josh King has just come on for Bournemouth after being out for weeks with a back injury. Looks quite sharp but is he too injury prone to try and buy in the transfer window.
See, I know people banged the drum about Toney before but we really could use a striker like him. Quick, strong, hard working....haven't seen much of him but really impressed tonight. I'd be Toney>King if a transfer was possible.
Edit, after the game, I thought he was brilliant. Good touch, smart decision making, absolutely working hard as a team player....
Toney or King? What about bidding for Solanke instead?
Toney. Was very impressed.
Quote from: sunburywhite on December 31, 2020, 03:03:26 PM
Arteta is saying he needs to offload some players in Jauary
Anyone there who might suit us?
Quote from: JimOG on December 31, 2020, 04:52:11 PMQuote from: sunburywhite on December 31, 2020, 03:03:26 PM
Arteta is saying he needs to offload some players in Jauary
Anyone there who might suit us?
As they're in the relegation zone with us I doubt it :003:- we really need to be ambitious after what has been a very good summer recruitment. Just read BBC website and this name popped up ARKADIUSZ MILIK. Very good scoring rate in a famously defensive Serie A
Quote from: Craven Mad on December 31, 2020, 12:07:42 PM
Josh King (Bournemouth) is a good shout because of how little time he has on his current contract, and the fact he's not playing. Bournemouth will be happy to lose the wages, and we can pick up a player with Prem experience at a decent price.
Morelos (Rangers) is another name to throw into the ring: hasn't been in great form this season, but isn't playing in Scotland and is the right type of player to lead our line (pacey, two-footed and doggedly closes down opposition). Given his form, Rangers might be willing to let him leave on loan with an option to buy - that'd be a win/win for all parties because, if he finds his form, Rangers can recoup a fee that he currently wouldn't be worth.
Finally, FWIW, I think Demari Gray (Leicester) and/or Bright Samuel (QPR) are decent shouts too: they can both play on either wing, are pacey and would add some much needed competition to the front line. They're also both certainly available and, like Josh King, only have six months left on their current deals (so wouldn't command a hefty fee).
That's four players that'd massively improve our squad on the cheap and, I think, would be enough to ensure survival this year.
Quote from: river phoenix on December 31, 2020, 06:40:00 PM
Bright Osayi-Samuel would be a bargain in Tosin/Robinson mould. Young, pacey and skillful and his natural position is our problematic right wing. His contract runs out in July so we can buy him for like 2/3 mil.
Quote from: LC on December 31, 2020, 08:26:31 PM
We don't need a backup striker, we need a starting striker. We only have 1 striker in Mitrovic and he's not in form and we cannot gamble the future of the club on him finding form in the second half of the season. A starting striker is an absolute must
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on December 31, 2020, 07:54:05 PMQuote from: river phoenix on December 31, 2020, 06:40:00 PM
Bright Osayi-Samuel would be a bargain in Tosin/Robinson mould. Young, pacey and skillful and his natural position is our problematic right wing. His contract runs out in July so we can buy him for like 2/3 mil.
Excellent suggestion. At that price he'd be good addition. We'd still need to get a backup striker that's better than AK47...but if we got Samuel I can see him being similar to Lookman (https://footballia.net/matches/queens-park-rangers-leeds-united-fl-championship)...except on our right side.
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on December 31, 2020, 09:21:08 PMWhat if we made Lemina permanent?
We can't have any domestic loans at all, any new loans must be from abroad
Quote from: spikey norman on December 31, 2020, 09:25:33 PMim sure it does. But would he want to sign. Surely better for him to see it out and see if we stay up.Quote from: WestSussexWhite on December 31, 2020, 09:21:08 PMWhat if we made Lemina permanent?
We can't have any domestic loans at all, any new loans must be from abroad
Does that change things regarding signing another domestic loan?
Quote from: spikey norman on December 31, 2020, 09:25:33 PMQuote from: WestSussexWhite on December 31, 2020, 09:21:08 PMWhat if we made Lemina permanent?
We can't have any domestic loans at all, any new loans must be from abroad
Does that change things regarding signing another domestic loan?
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on December 31, 2020, 09:21:08 PMwell I knew we couldn't get prem loans, but is anyone bothered that we can't loan second, third or fourth division players.
We can't have any domestic loans at all, any new loans must be from abroad
Quote from: gang on January 01, 2021, 12:15:53 AM
Window open, have we signed anyone yet? Come on Tony. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Quote from: LC on January 01, 2021, 04:14:50 AMQuote from: gang on January 01, 2021, 12:15:53 AM
Window open, have we signed anyone yet? Come on Tony. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Waiting for the TK out posts.. hahahahaa
Quote from: LC on January 01, 2021, 04:14:50 AMQuote from: gang on January 01, 2021, 12:15:53 AM
Window open, have we signed anyone yet? Come on Tony. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Waiting for the TK out posts.. hahahahaa
Quote from: Statto on January 01, 2021, 10:40:38 AM
I have to admit I was unsure about the value in signing Babel in the summer but he would be the perfect fix for our present need - a quick, cheap, ready-to-go winger/forward
Quote from: Statto on January 01, 2021, 10:40:38 AM
I have to admit I was unsure about the value in signing Babel in the summer but he would be the perfect fix for our present need - a quick, cheap, ready-to-go winger/forward
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 01, 2021, 11:40:11 AM
We must be trying to sign permanently Aina or Lemina therefore creating the opportunity for another loan.
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on December 31, 2020, 09:21:08 PM
We can't have any domestic loans at all, any new loans must be from abroad
Quote from: Moltobueno on January 01, 2021, 03:23:45 PM
Daniel James leaving United in January - currently West Brom being favourites. Would love to see us making a move for him.
Quote from: Statto on January 01, 2021, 10:45:04 AMQuote from: LC on January 01, 2021, 04:14:50 AMQuote from: gang on January 01, 2021, 12:15:53 AM
Window open, have we signed anyone yet? Come on Tony. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Waiting for the TK out posts.. hahahahaa
5 years of pi$$ poor transfer timing may have lowered Fulham fans' expectations but it's not unreasonable to expect a signing the day the window opens. Three other PL clubs have already signed someone. It just won't ever happen with TK/AM.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 01, 2021, 11:25:34 AM
Not sure Babel is the player he was 2 seasons ago...
Would love Buendia or Osayi Samuel from the championship.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 01, 2021, 06:48:35 PM
Linked to Alfie Doughty of Charlton
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.footballfancast.com/fulham-fc-news/fulham-alfie-doughty-charlton-athletic-tony-khan-scott-parker/amp
Quote from: Barrett487 on January 01, 2021, 03:14:51 PM
https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-wolves-lead-fulham-west-brom-in-race-to-sign-english-defender/
Wolves are leading West Brom and Fulham in the race to sign Grimsby Town defender Mattie Pollock, Football Insider understands.
The 19-year-old centre-back has impressed for the League Two outfit and already has 50 first-team appearances under his belt after breaking into the senior side back in late 2018.
Quote from: Hatch007 on January 01, 2021, 07:40:35 PM
Here's a thought ... could Doughty and/or Pollock "technically" be signed for the U23s but still available for PL selection without filling places in the official PL 25-man squad?
Quote from: Hatch007 on January 01, 2021, 07:40:35 PM
Here's a thought ... could Doughty and/or Pollock "technically" be signed for the U23s but still available for PL selection without filling places in the official PL 25-man squad?
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 01, 2021, 08:00:23 PM
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Good depth but a waste of a loan slot if true (and risky with his injury record).
Can't see how he'd start in our current setup though, but he'd good offer cover for DM or CB.
Really don't see this happening unless the deal was a) v v cheap, and b) permanent.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 01, 2021, 07:47:27 PMQuote from: Hatch007 on January 01, 2021, 07:40:35 PM
Here's a thought ... could Doughty and/or Pollock "technically" be signed for the U23s but still available for PL selection without filling places in the official PL 25-man squad?
Have we made similar moves in the past 3 January transfer windows? We're "technically" putting it out there that we're bolstering our U23 squad during a pandemic.
We need much better players than those two. Neither would ever get named to a match day squad.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 01, 2021, 08:35:50 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 01, 2021, 08:29:40 PMare we allowed another loan then. Thought two was the Max.Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 01, 2021, 08:00:23 PM
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Good depth but a waste of a loan slot if true (and risky with his injury record).
Can't see how he'd start in our current setup though, but he'd good offer cover for DM or CB.
Really don't see this happening unless the deal was a) v v cheap, and b) permanent.
Quote from: Asotosyios on January 01, 2021, 10:19:25 PM
They can always be an investment for the future.
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Good depth but a waste of a loan slot if true (and risky with his injury record).
Can't see how he'd start in our current setup though, but he'd good offer cover for DM or CB.
Really don't see this happening unless the deal was a) v v cheap, and b) permanent.
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2021, 03:55:29 AM
I don't understand why people want Babel back, he is 2 years older than when he was last with us, and hasn't done much since he left. A 34 years old who predominantly plays on the left wing I don't see why we need him.
We need a striker and a right winger
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 02, 2021, 03:30:49 PMQuote from: LC on January 02, 2021, 03:55:29 AM
I don't understand why people want Babel back, he is 2 years older than when he was last with us, and hasn't done much since he left. A 34 years old who predominantly plays on the left wing I don't see why we need him.
We need a striker and a right winger
Totally agree
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2021, 03:55:29 AM
I don't understand why people want Babel back, he is 2 years older than when he was last with us, and hasn't done much since he left. A 34 years old who predominantly plays on the left wing I don't see why we need him.
We need a striker and a right winger
Galatasaray, planning to part ways with Oghenekaro Etebo, will interrupt again with its former player Seri. Seri and his manager are also trying to persuade Fulham to transfer.#ffc https://t.co/GUNFgyLpGr
— White Noise (@WhiteNoise1879) January 2, 2021
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 02, 2021, 04:33:31 PMpersuade? I'd imagine Tony has the kismet docked in the Thames ready to get around any flight bans.Galatasaray, planning to part ways with Oghenekaro Etebo, will interrupt again with its former player Seri. Seri and his manager are also trying to persuade Fulham to transfer.#ffc https://t.co/GUNFgyLpGr
— White Noise (@WhiteNoise1879) January 2, 2021
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 01, 2021, 10:22:21 PMWe might need RLC for cover of any future celebrations/covid fall out. He could, of course, be one of the isolators.Quote from: fulhamben on January 01, 2021, 08:35:50 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 01, 2021, 08:29:40 PMare we allowed another loan then. Thought two was the Max.Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 01, 2021, 08:00:23 PM
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Good depth but a waste of a loan slot if true (and risky with his injury record).
Can't see how he'd start in our current setup though, but he'd good offer cover for DM or CB.
Really don't see this happening unless the deal was a) v v cheap, and b) permanent.
I'm assuming we'll free one up (by buying Mario or returning RLC)
Quote from: Whitestone on January 02, 2021, 03:48:49 PMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 02, 2021, 03:30:49 PMQuote from: LC on January 02, 2021, 03:55:29 AM
I don't understand why people want Babel back, he is 2 years older than when he was last with us, and hasn't done much since he left. A 34 years old who predominantly plays on the left wing I don't see why we need him.
We need a striker and a right winger
Totally agree
The January window is notoriously difficult so a player like Babel who know's the club and can play through the middle would be an excellent short term fix. I'm not sure why his age is repeatedly raised as an issue. There are many players of a similar age playing at the top level. Messi and Ronaldo immediately spring to mind so why can't a 34 year old Babel be of benefit to Fulham ?
Quote from: rebel on January 03, 2021, 09:36:04 AMQuote from: Whitestone on January 02, 2021, 03:48:49 PMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 02, 2021, 03:30:49 PMQuote from: LC on January 02, 2021, 03:55:29 AM
I don't understand why people want Babel back, he is 2 years older than when he was last with us, and hasn't done much since he left. A 34 years old who predominantly plays on the left wing I don't see why we need him.
We need a striker and a right winger
Totally agree
The January window is notoriously difficult so a player like Babel who know's the club and can play through the middle would be an excellent short term fix. I'm not sure why his age is repeatedly raised as an issue. There are many players of a similar age playing at the top level. Messi and Ronaldo immediately spring to mind so why can't a 34 year old Babel be of benefit to Fulham ?
Agree 100%. He can hit the 'barn door', we needs goals, we already have playmakers, Lookman and Co.
?s=21Fulham are keen to keep Loftus-Cheek at Craven Cottage. #FFC pic.twitter.com/ZAy7vUIWjY
— Alex Wood (@AJ_Wood15) January 3, 2021
Quote from: FFC73 on January 01, 2021, 09:03:36 PM
Chambers = no in the summer
Chambers = absolutely no in January. We have better in all positions he failed in for us two years ago (& I include each & every position he played in for us).
Lazy journalism, I hope
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 03, 2021, 03:51:10 PM?s=21Fulham are keen to keep Loftus-Cheek at Craven Cottage. #FFC pic.twitter.com/ZAy7vUIWjY
— Alex Wood (@AJ_Wood15) January 3, 2021
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 03, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
I imagine that's a made up story.
Quote from: Tabby on January 03, 2021, 04:11:34 PMreally? based on what he has done so far, id be surprised if we even tried to loan him againQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 03, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
I imagine that's a made up story.
Wouldn't be too surprised if it happened if we stayed up. But it'll hardly happen before that.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 03, 2021, 04:26:28 PMDepends on what Parker thinks of him. What we forum pundits think matters little. We have dropped Cairney and Mitro in order to accomodate RLC and Cavaleiro in recent games, which I doubt many would have been calling for either.Quote from: Tabby on January 03, 2021, 04:11:34 PMreally? based on what he has done so far, id be surprised if we even tried to loan him againQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 03, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
I imagine that's a made up story.
Wouldn't be too surprised if it happened if we stayed up. But it'll hardly happen before that.
Quote from: filham on January 03, 2021, 04:37:30 PM
If Chelsea have been monitoring RLC's performances at Fulham then perhaps the source of that story will be found at Stamford Bridge.
Quote from: filham on January 03, 2021, 04:37:30 PM
If Chelsea have been monitoring RLC's performances at Fulham then perhaps the source of that story will be found at Stamford Bridge.
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PMHmmm?
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Quote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PMGood lad. Hopefully TK will act quicklyQuote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PMHmmm?
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.
Quote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PMQuote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PMHmmm?
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PMQuote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PMQuote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PMHmmm?
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.
Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).
Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.
BREAKING: Siriki Dembele has handed in a transfer request at Peterborough United.
— The #EFL Zone (@TheFLZone) January 4, 2021
A host of clubs including Rangers, Fulham and Watford have been linked with the 24-year-old.#PUFC #RangersFC #FFS #WatfordFC pic.twitter.com/fzdjM7seax
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 04, 2021, 04:08:14 PMBREAKING: Siriki Dembele has handed in a transfer request at Peterborough United.
— The #EFL Zone (@TheFLZone) January 4, 2021
A host of clubs including Rangers, Fulham and Watford have been linked with the 24-year-old.#PUFC #RangersFC #FFS #WatfordFC pic.twitter.com/fzdjM7seax
Quote from: Gezza on January 04, 2021, 04:13:30 PM
As reported in the Evening Standard
West Brom manager Sam Allardyce says he has already missed out on three new signings due to the impact of Brexit.
Allardyce has been brought in by the Baggies in a bid to avoid relegation, earning one point from his opening four games, but the new manager believes the January transfer window could be the toughest of his career as he deals with post-Brexit regulations and the COVID-19 pandemic.
New rules that came into force from January 1 mean Premier League clubs will not be allowed to sign players from European Union countries without a work permit while foreign players under the age of 18 cannot be signed at all.
Allardyce, whose side are second from bottom with eight points from 17 games, said deals for three potential recruits had already fallen through as a result of the new rules.
"I have found three players already who were capable of coming here and they're not allowed. It's a shame," Allardyce said.
Quote from: JimOG on January 04, 2021, 04:14:36 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 04, 2021, 04:08:14 PMBREAKING: Siriki Dembele has handed in a transfer request at Peterborough United.
— The #EFL Zone (@TheFLZone) January 4, 2021
A host of clubs including Rangers, Fulham and Watford have been linked with the 24-year-old.#PUFC #RangersFC #FFS #WatfordFC pic.twitter.com/fzdjM7seax
I've only seen the usual YouTube clips but not it's his footballing intelligence & vision I noticed. He's aware of team-mates better placed which you can't say of AK or Cav. Quick, both feet and finishes well.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 04, 2021, 04:27:42 PMnearly 4 times better than cav though.Quote from: JimOG on January 04, 2021, 04:14:36 PMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 04, 2021, 04:08:14 PMBREAKING: Siriki Dembele has handed in a transfer request at Peterborough United.
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A host of clubs including Rangers, Fulham and Watford have been linked with the 24-year-old.#PUFC #RangersFC #FFS #WatfordFC pic.twitter.com/fzdjM7seax
I've only seen the usual YouTube clips but not it's his footballing intelligence & vision I noticed. He's aware of team-mates better placed which you can't say of AK or Cav. Quick, both feet and finishes well.
4 goals in 46 appearances last season. So we're not interested in him for the goals - hopefully he's better for his wing play
Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
nearly 4 times better than cav though.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 04, 2021, 02:34:06 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PMQuote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PMQuote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PMHmmm?
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.
Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).
Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.
Our games in hand are against Spurs and Burnley (away). Realisticly I expect 0 to 1 points from these two games, which won't be enough.
We desperately need a striker and a RW but if we spend a lot of money this window and are relegated anyway we will be in SERIOUS trouble next season. We could easily find ourselves closer to League One than promotion back to the PL.
Spending a lot of money this window will be a HUGE financial gamble which isn't something we usually do. I don't expect much more than a couple of uninspiring loans from some mid-level European league this window. We can still avoid relegation of course but I'm not very optimistic.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 04, 2021, 05:30:45 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 04, 2021, 02:34:06 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PMQuote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PMQuote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PMHmmm?
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.
Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).
Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.
Our games in hand are against Spurs and Burnley (away). Realisticly I expect 0 to 1 points from these two games, which won't be enough.
We desperately need a striker and a RW but if we spend a lot of money this window and are relegated anyway we will be in SERIOUS trouble next season. We could easily find ourselves closer to League One than promotion back to the PL.
Spending a lot of money this window will be a HUGE financial gamble which isn't something we usually do. I don't expect much more than a couple of uninspiring loans from some mid-level European league this window. We can still avoid relegation of course but I'm not very optimistic.
Define lots of money? Bear in mind we've not spent much this year.
Quote from: Jim© on January 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
nearly 4 times better than cav though.
No, not even nearly. Cav scored 6 in 43 (7 assists) a division higher than him last season, so not sure where you get the "4 times better" from???
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 04, 2021, 07:19:01 PMwell no i wouldnt. but lets be honest we will be lucky if he scores another goal between now and the end of the season, such are his terrible stats. just out of interest, what do you blame for our shocking attack this season.Quote from: Jim© on January 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
nearly 4 times better than cav though.
No, not even nearly. Cav scored 6 in 43 (7 assists) a division higher than him last season, so not sure where you get the "4 times better" from???
Cav is his new favourite thing to scapegoat, he could score 10 goals between now and the end of the season and Ben would still call him crap
Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:24:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 04, 2021, 07:19:01 PMwell no i wouldnt. but lets be honest we will be lucky if he scores another goal between now and the end of the season, such are his terrible stats. just out of interest, what do you blame for our shocking attack this season.Quote from: Jim© on January 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
nearly 4 times better than cav though.
No, not even nearly. Cav scored 6 in 43 (7 assists) a division higher than him last season, so not sure where you get the "4 times better" from???
Cav is his new favourite thing to scapegoat, he could score 10 goals between now and the end of the season and Ben would still call him crap
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 07:38:52 PMwait, so you want a new striker, not to replace cav i presume as that would be scapegoating wouldn't it?Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:24:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 04, 2021, 07:19:01 PMwell no i wouldnt. but lets be honest we will be lucky if he scores another goal between now and the end of the season, such are his terrible stats. just out of interest, what do you blame for our shocking attack this season.Quote from: Jim© on January 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
nearly 4 times better than cav though.
No, not even nearly. Cav scored 6 in 43 (7 assists) a division higher than him last season, so not sure where you get the "4 times better" from???
Cav is his new favourite thing to scapegoat, he could score 10 goals between now and the end of the season and Ben would still call him crap
Lack of transfer activity in squad depth for strikers. Its the main reason I think we'll go down. I look at all the teams around us and we clearly have the worst depth for goals.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 04, 2021, 07:52:05 PM
So...this Adam Armstrong guy. How much would it cost to bring him in from Blackburn?
Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:48:53 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 07:38:52 PMwait, so you want a new striker, not to replace cav i presume as that would be scapegoating wouldn't it?Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:24:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 04, 2021, 07:19:01 PMwell no i wouldnt. but lets be honest we will be lucky if he scores another goal between now and the end of the season, such are his terrible stats. just out of interest, what do you blame for our shocking attack this season.Quote from: Jim© on January 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
nearly 4 times better than cav though.
No, not even nearly. Cav scored 6 in 43 (7 assists) a division higher than him last season, so not sure where you get the "4 times better" from???
Cav is his new favourite thing to scapegoat, he could score 10 goals between now and the end of the season and Ben would still call him crap
Lack of transfer activity in squad depth for strikers. Its the main reason I think we'll go down. I look at all the teams around us and we clearly have the worst depth for goals.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 09:23:28 PMI don't think we are light up top. We have cav who is doing a wonderful job and mitro on the bench. Another striker would be pointless.Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:48:53 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 07:38:52 PMwait, so you want a new striker, not to replace cav i presume as that would be scapegoating wouldn't it?Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:24:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 04, 2021, 07:19:01 PMwell no i wouldnt. but lets be honest we will be lucky if he scores another goal between now and the end of the season, such are his terrible stats. just out of interest, what do you blame for our shocking attack this season.Quote from: Jim© on January 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
nearly 4 times better than cav though.
No, not even nearly. Cav scored 6 in 43 (7 assists) a division higher than him last season, so not sure where you get the "4 times better" from???
Cav is his new favourite thing to scapegoat, he could score 10 goals between now and the end of the season and Ben would still call him crap
Lack of transfer activity in squad depth for strikers. Its the main reason I think we'll go down. I look at all the teams around us and we clearly have the worst depth for goals.
Not really sure why you think this is a gotcha. I specifically said lack of squad depth so it would be more of a rotation point than a replacement. We also have a complete lack of depth up top as you well know so its common sense.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 09:26:52 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 09:23:28 PMI don't think we are light up top. We have cav who is doing a wonderful job and mitro on the bench. Another striker would be pointless.Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:48:53 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 07:38:52 PMwait, so you want a new striker, not to replace cav i presume as that would be scapegoating wouldn't it?Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:24:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 04, 2021, 07:19:01 PMwell no i wouldnt. but lets be honest we will be lucky if he scores another goal between now and the end of the season, such are his terrible stats. just out of interest, what do you blame for our shocking attack this season.Quote from: Jim© on January 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
nearly 4 times better than cav though.
No, not even nearly. Cav scored 6 in 43 (7 assists) a division higher than him last season, so not sure where you get the "4 times better" from???
Cav is his new favourite thing to scapegoat, he could score 10 goals between now and the end of the season and Ben would still call him crap
Lack of transfer activity in squad depth for strikers. Its the main reason I think we'll go down. I look at all the teams around us and we clearly have the worst depth for goals.
Not really sure why you think this is a gotcha. I specifically said lack of squad depth so it would be more of a rotation point than a replacement. We also have a complete lack of depth up top as you well know so its common sense.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 09:32:02 PMyes I know it wasn't you, I was just pointing out that some think any negative criticism of cav is scape goating. Yes we need a decent striker up top because he won't use mitro and cav is useless as a striker, there's literally no other way to put it. If he was doing well then Parker himself wouldn't have openly stated we need a striker.Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 09:26:52 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 09:23:28 PMI don't think we are light up top. We have cav who is doing a wonderful job and mitro on the bench. Another striker would be pointless.Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:48:53 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 07:38:52 PMwait, so you want a new striker, not to replace cav i presume as that would be scapegoating wouldn't it?Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:24:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 04, 2021, 07:19:01 PMwell no i wouldnt. but lets be honest we will be lucky if he scores another goal between now and the end of the season, such are his terrible stats. just out of interest, what do you blame for our shocking attack this season.Quote from: Jim© on January 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
nearly 4 times better than cav though.
No, not even nearly. Cav scored 6 in 43 (7 assists) a division higher than him last season, so not sure where you get the "4 times better" from???
Cav is his new favourite thing to scapegoat, he could score 10 goals between now and the end of the season and Ben would still call him crap
Lack of transfer activity in squad depth for strikers. Its the main reason I think we'll go down. I look at all the teams around us and we clearly have the worst depth for goals.
Not really sure why you think this is a gotcha. I specifically said lack of squad depth so it would be more of a rotation point than a replacement. We also have a complete lack of depth up top as you well know so its common sense.
Ok well, for what its worth, I never said you were making Cav the scapegoat as he's been deserving of criticism for his lack of goals but i've given you the reason for the lack of goals in this team/squad. Or at least my reason.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 09:36:58 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 09:32:02 PMyes I know it wasn't you, I was just pointing out that some think any negative criticism of cav is scape goating. Yes we need a decent striker up top because he won't use mitro and cav is useless as a striker, there's literally no other way to put it. If he was doing well then Parker himself wouldn't have openly stated we need a striker.Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 09:26:52 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 09:23:28 PMI don't think we are light up top. We have cav who is doing a wonderful job and mitro on the bench. Another striker would be pointless.Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:48:53 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 07:38:52 PMwait, so you want a new striker, not to replace cav i presume as that would be scapegoating wouldn't it?Quote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 07:24:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 04, 2021, 07:19:01 PMwell no i wouldnt. but lets be honest we will be lucky if he scores another goal between now and the end of the season, such are his terrible stats. just out of interest, what do you blame for our shocking attack this season.Quote from: Jim© on January 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 04, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
nearly 4 times better than cav though.
No, not even nearly. Cav scored 6 in 43 (7 assists) a division higher than him last season, so not sure where you get the "4 times better" from???
Cav is his new favourite thing to scapegoat, he could score 10 goals between now and the end of the season and Ben would still call him crap
Lack of transfer activity in squad depth for strikers. Its the main reason I think we'll go down. I look at all the teams around us and we clearly have the worst depth for goals.
Not really sure why you think this is a gotcha. I specifically said lack of squad depth so it would be more of a rotation point than a replacement. We also have a complete lack of depth up top as you well know so its common sense.
Ok well, for what its worth, I never said you were making Cav the scapegoat as he's been deserving of criticism for his lack of goals but i've given you the reason for the lack of goals in this team/squad. Or at least my reason.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 04, 2021, 05:30:45 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 04, 2021, 02:34:06 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PMQuote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PMQuote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PMHmmm?
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.
Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).
Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.
Our games in hand are against Spurs and Burnley (away). Realisticly I expect 0 to 1 points from these two games, which won't be enough.
We desperately need a striker and a RW but if we spend a lot of money this window and are relegated anyway we will be in SERIOUS trouble next season. We could easily find ourselves closer to League One than promotion back to the PL.
Spending a lot of money this window will be a HUGE financial gamble which isn't something we usually do. I don't expect much more than a couple of uninspiring loans from some mid-level European league this window. We can still avoid relegation of course but I'm not very optimistic.
Define lots of money? Bear in mind we've not spent much this year.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 05, 2021, 12:00:09 AMYeah maybe we'll start signing some decent youngsters from lower leagues. Stop Brentford from getting them.Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 04, 2021, 05:30:45 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 04, 2021, 02:34:06 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PMQuote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PMQuote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PMHmmm?
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.
Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).
Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.
Our games in hand are against Spurs and Burnley (away). Realisticly I expect 0 to 1 points from these two games, which won't be enough.
We desperately need a striker and a RW but if we spend a lot of money this window and are relegated anyway we will be in SERIOUS trouble next season. We could easily find ourselves closer to League One than promotion back to the PL.
Spending a lot of money this window will be a HUGE financial gamble which isn't something we usually do. I don't expect much more than a couple of uninspiring loans from some mid-level European league this window. We can still avoid relegation of course but I'm not very optimistic.
Define lots of money? Bear in mind we've not spent much this year.
Enough money to buy a PL quality striker = lots of money.
Brexit will probably inflate prices too for anyone with a work permit or likely to get a work permit. We can't expect our usual "stats signings" from Benfica B or French Ligue 2 to get a work permit now can we? But maybe that's not such a bad thing, lol.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 04, 2021, 05:30:45 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 04, 2021, 02:34:06 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PMQuote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PMQuote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PMHmmm?
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.
Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).
Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.
Our games in hand are against Spurs and Burnley (away). Realisticly I expect 0 to 1 points from these two games, which won't be enough.
We desperately need a striker and a RW but if we spend a lot of money this window and are relegated anyway we will be in SERIOUS trouble next season. We could easily find ourselves closer to League One than promotion back to the PL.
Spending a lot of money this window will be a HUGE financial gamble which isn't something we usually do. I don't expect much more than a couple of uninspiring loans from some mid-level European league this window. We can still avoid relegation of course but I'm not very optimistic.
Define lots of money? Bear in mind we've not spent much this year.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 05, 2021, 12:00:09 AM
Enough money to buy a PL quality striker = lots of money.
Brexit will probably inflate prices too for anyone with a work permit or likely to get a work permit. We can't expect our usual "stats signings" from Benfica B or French Ligue 2 to get a work permit now can we? But maybe that's not such a bad thing, lol.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 05, 2021, 02:00:00 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 04, 2021, 05:30:45 PMQuote from: S.F.Sorrow on January 04, 2021, 02:34:06 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 04, 2021, 01:34:01 PMQuote from: Jims Dentist on January 03, 2021, 11:50:29 PMQuote from: Denver Fulham on January 01, 2021, 04:35:12 PMHmmm?
Parker came out today in this press conference openly stating we need a striker. How we accomplish it — loan or buy, starter or support — will be interesting to watch.
Scott previously played down our calls for a striker in Jan saying we might get one or two loans.
Wonder if this most recent statement is to put pressure on TK, so as not to act is to accept relegation in January.
IFSO well done SP.
Being 3 points adrift with 2 games in hand, I can't imagine TK is expecting relegation as the most likely outcome? (yes, the irony that I do but if he believes in his work and the squad he's built, he'll think we're absolutely fine currently).
Also worth noting, we per the 13th Jan, we could find ourselves 3 points adrift with 3 games in hand with Brighton playing Man City next. Burnley are 5 points in front and play Man United next, so the Chelsea game for us on 15th could be huge. An unlikely 3 points there and we'd really be in a decent position on both Burnley and Brighton which part of this mini league is vital. I suspect if we maintain a few points off Burnley, we'll be absolutely fine this year. It is however a tall order on a team whose won twice in 15 outings! Fingers and toes crossed as it really is in our hands to justify our place in this league.
Our games in hand are against Spurs and Burnley (away). Realisticly I expect 0 to 1 points from these two games, which won't be enough.
We desperately need a striker and a RW but if we spend a lot of money this window and are relegated anyway we will be in SERIOUS trouble next season. We could easily find ourselves closer to League One than promotion back to the PL.
Spending a lot of money this window will be a HUGE financial gamble which isn't something we usually do. I don't expect much more than a couple of uninspiring loans from some mid-level European league this window. We can still avoid relegation of course but I'm not very optimistic.
Define lots of money? Bear in mind we've not spent much this year.
A lot of money is £25m, which would have bought this season i) five top championship players such as Scott McKenna, Ovie Ejaria, Matheus Pereira, Kamil Jozwiak, and Ivan Toney; or ii) one mid-table premier league center-forward such as Fábio Silva, Álvaro Morata, Ollie Watkins, Rodrigo, Rhian Brewster or Callum Wilson (or £15m for Karlan Grant).
Spending £25m on one player is a huge financial gamble, whereas investing in several players over several years should pay dividends, either by uncovering a premier league star and helping us in the championship XI/ EPL bench.
We probably have enough money for a top-quality striker, but are we sure we want to have spent all our FFP budget this winter and have no money for new wingers in the championship when Knockaert, Kamara, Cav, Reid, and Kebano is all we have.
Note, Sheffield United will have the money to upgrade significantly their squad in the summer with championship players, plus they already have a good collection of young stars with three seasons of parachute payments that will deliver and resell well.
Quote from: grandad on January 05, 2021, 09:48:38 AM
Looking at the recent Championship games, there are quite a few strikers banging in goals on a regular basis. Any of them would be better than Cav,Kebano & Kamara. Scoring a goal is no different in the Championship than the PL.It still has to hit the back of the net.
Quote from: EricB on January 05, 2021, 01:40:53 PM
Fulham keen to boost Premier League survival bid with January move for Newcastle striker Dwight Gayle... and Scott Parker's side could offer up incentivised deal where fee increases if he keeps them in the league
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Fulham are looking into a January deal for Newcastle striker Dwight Gayle
Scott Parker is targeting reinforcements in attack to boost their survival hopes
Gayle has six months remaining on his deal and could be made available now
By ADRIAN KAJUMBA FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 13:27, 5 January 2021 | UPDATED: 13:30, 5 January 2021
Fulham have reignited their interest in Newcastle striker Dwight Gayle.
Gayle has just six months left on his current contract but long-standing admirers Fulham are keen to take him this month rather than wait until the summer.
They have discussed trying to persuade Newcastle with an incentivised deal that will involve a small fee now and increase if Gayle, 31, were to help keep Fulham in the Premier League this season.
Dwight Gayle has become a leading January target for Fulham boss Scott Parker +3
Parker has been an admirer of Gayle for some time and the striker is on the transfer block with six months left on his current
Fulham are third bottom and three points from safety but with two games in hand due to the postponement of their games against Tottenham and Burnley in the last week following a coronavirus outbreak.
They are short of striking alternatives to Aleksandar Mitrovic and manager Scott Parker has opted to field a team without a recognised frontman in recent weeks when he has been unavailable.
Fulham face competition for Gayle from clubs in the Middle East, who are also monitoring his situation with his deal running out.
Qatari duo Al-Gharafa, managed by former Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic, and Al-Duhail, led by ex-Nottingham Forest boss Sabri Lamouchi, are both keen along with Saudi side Al-Shabab.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9114501/Fulham-keen-January-Newcastle-striker-Dwight-Gayle.html
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 05, 2021, 02:04:29 PM
Gayle would be a good fit, but I'd be surprised if Toon wanted to strengthen us right now. It wouldn't take much for them to be pulled into the scrap...
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 05, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
It doesn't matter about plague, pestilence, riots, hurricanes , holes in the ozone layer, invaders from Mars. We always can be assured that the annual Dwight Gayle rumour will soon be coming is never far away. The first thing this season that has felt like normality.
Quote from: jeffc4golf on January 05, 2021, 04:05:11 PMis he any better than cav? yes, yes he is
Is he any better than we already got in my opinion his not we're always linked with this guy plus his a sick note
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on January 05, 2021, 02:21:11 PMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 05, 2021, 02:04:29 PM
Gayle would be a good fit, but I'd be surprised if Toon wanted to strengthen us right now. It wouldn't take much for them to be pulled into the scrap...
Only has 6 months left on his deal, and, has been itching to move back down south for a while. If Newcastle don't sell now, they risk him moving on in the summer for nothing. We'd get him relatively cheap, and, if we stay up, Newcastle would get more money.
I actually see this move making more sense this time around, and more likely to come off.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 05, 2021, 04:10:23 PMPlus if we do happen to get relegated he'll be usefulQuote from: jeffc4golf on January 05, 2021, 04:05:11 PMis he any better than cav? yes, yes he is
Is he any better than we already got in my opinion his not we're always linked with this guy plus his a sick note
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 05, 2021, 04:56:39 PMyes good point. id imagine he would be pretty cheap so a bit of a no brainer really. question is whether newcastle want to sell. are they that desperate for a couple of million that they would weaken themselves when they look so poor anywayQuote from: fulhamben on January 05, 2021, 04:10:23 PMPlus if we do happen to get relegated he'll be usefulQuote from: jeffc4golf on January 05, 2021, 04:05:11 PMis he any better than cav? yes, yes he is
Is he any better than we already got in my opinion his not we're always linked with this guy plus his a sick note
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Quote from: fulhamben on January 05, 2021, 05:01:02 PMMaybe we should offer Mitro in exchange.Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 05, 2021, 04:56:39 PMyes good point. id imagine he would be pretty cheap so a bit of a no brainer really. question is whether newcastle want to sell. are they that desperate for a couple of million that they would weaken themselves when they look so poor anywayQuote from: fulhamben on January 05, 2021, 04:10:23 PMPlus if we do happen to get relegated he'll be usefulQuote from: jeffc4golf on January 05, 2021, 04:05:11 PMis he any better than cav? yes, yes he is
Is he any better than we already got in my opinion his not we're always linked with this guy plus his a sick note
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Quote from: sarnian on January 05, 2021, 06:00:40 PMwe have 23 games left, so if he can manage 22, then that would be brilliant. hell if he only plays one game but scores the winner then we are in a better place.
Gayle is very injury prone. Since 2013 he has averaged about 22 games per season which is not over impressive.
Quote from: sarnian on January 05, 2021, 06:00:40 PM
Gayle is very injury prone. Since 2013 he has averaged about 22 games per season which is not over impressive.
Quote from: Lighthouse on January 05, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
It doesn't matter about plague, pestilence, riots, hurricanes , holes in the ozone layer, invaders from Mars. We always can be assured that the annual Dwight Gayle rumour will soon be coming is never far away. The first thing this season that has felt like normality.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 05, 2021, 09:27:00 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on January 05, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
It doesn't matter about plague, pestilence, riots, hurricanes , holes in the ozone layer, invaders from Mars. We always can be assured that the annual Dwight Gayle rumour will soon be coming is never far away. The first thing this season that has felt like normality.
Pretty much. And if Newcastle don't want him I don't want him either.
Quote from: LC on January 05, 2021, 09:29:51 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 05, 2021, 09:27:00 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on January 05, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
It doesn't matter about plague, pestilence, riots, hurricanes , holes in the ozone layer, invaders from Mars. We always can be assured that the annual Dwight Gayle rumour will soon be coming is never far away. The first thing this season that has felt like normality.
Pretty much. And if Newcastle don't want him I don't want him either.
Newcastle didn't want Mitrovic either and he's been our best player year in year out, bar this season, since he joined.
I would rather have Gayle than no one at all, but I think we can do better this window. Gayle is better than than Cav and he would suit our currently formation and style
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Newcastle didn't want Mitrovic either and he's been our best player year in year out, bar this season, since he joined.
I would rather have Gayle than no one at all, but I think we can do better this window. Gayle is better than than Cav and he would suit our currently formation and style
Quote from: LC on January 05, 2021, 09:29:51 PMthey didn't want Damian duff or Louis Saha either.Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 05, 2021, 09:27:00 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on January 05, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
It doesn't matter about plague, pestilence, riots, hurricanes , holes in the ozone layer, invaders from Mars. We always can be assured that the annual Dwight Gayle rumour will soon be coming is never far away. The first thing this season that has felt like normality.
Pretty much. And if Newcastle don't want him I don't want him either.
Newcastle didn't want Mitrovic either and he's been our best player year in year out, bar this season, since he joined.
I would rather have Gayle than no one at all, but I think we can do better this window. Gayle is better than than Cav and he would suit our currently formation and style
Quote from: Nero on January 05, 2021, 10:27:12 PMi was thinking about him earlier but didn't think they would sell as he has been doing ok for them of late. I would be all over this. Has great potential.
Arsenal apparently looking to sell Eddie Nketiah young English and resale value should tick most of Tonys boxes
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 05, 2021, 10:40:38 PMdepends if they want to sell. Toon won't loan Gayle with 6 months left on contract and looks like nketiah is also up for sale.
Don't Fulham traditionally do loans in the January window, not purchases?
And we can't loan from another EPL side correct? Wouldn't that take out anyone from Arsenal or Newcastle?
Quote from: fulhamben on January 05, 2021, 10:30:56 PMQuote from: Nero on January 05, 2021, 10:27:12 PMi was thinking about him earlier but didn't think they would sell as he has been doing ok for them of late. I would be all over this. Has great potential.
Arsenal apparently looking to sell Eddie Nketiah young English and resale value should tick most of Tonys boxes
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 05, 2021, 11:48:45 PMyes I would, he looks really good.Quote from: fulhamben on January 05, 2021, 10:30:56 PMQuote from: Nero on January 05, 2021, 10:27:12 PMi was thinking about him earlier but didn't think they would sell as he has been doing ok for them of late. I would be all over this. Has great potential.
Arsenal apparently looking to sell Eddie Nketiah young English and resale value should tick most of Tonys boxes
Me too but I'd be surprised if this were true.
Quote from: rebel on January 06, 2021, 09:06:58 AM
The big issue is leaving it all to the last minute, then having the shambles around because of Covid restrictions, medical failures and add the EU stuff (transfer from the EU) etc. We end up getting 'anybody'.
Quote from: Holders on January 06, 2021, 09:23:59 AMQuote from: rebel on January 06, 2021, 09:06:58 AM
The big issue is leaving it all to the last minute, then having the shambles around because of Covid restrictions, medical failures and add the EU stuff (transfer from the EU) etc. We end up getting 'anybody'.
The "new normal".
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 06, 2021, 09:00:48 AM
Saw on Twitter this morning that Galatasaray are interested in Kenny Tete. Bit of an odd one that.
Quote from: Tabby on January 06, 2021, 09:30:03 AMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on January 06, 2021, 09:00:48 AM
Saw on Twitter this morning that Galatasaray are interested in Kenny Tete. Bit of an odd one that.
There are a lot of rubbish rumours about the Istanbul teams in the Turkish press. I assume someone just saw that he hadn't been playing and decided to run with it, ignoring that he has been out injured.
Quote from: spikey norman on January 06, 2021, 03:04:21 PMwhy would we want another holding mid
According to below link we are interested in Turkish midfielder Ozan Tufan
https://sportslens.com/report-crystal-palace-everton-and-fuham-all-keen-on-fenerbahce-midfielder-ozan-tufan/325125/
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 06, 2021, 06:43:35 PM
Not saying it's right but would a stockpile and loan work for us ala Chelsea benefit us?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 06, 2021, 07:13:15 PMGoing on Chelsea's model you buy all and sundry with potential and loan them out.Chelsea currently have 28 players out on loan.Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 06, 2021, 06:43:35 PM
Not saying it's right but would a stockpile and loan work for us ala Chelsea benefit us?
What is a stockpile and loan? What player/s?
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 06, 2021, 07:44:14 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 06, 2021, 07:13:15 PMGoing on Chelsea's model you buy all and sundry with potential and loan them out.Chelsea currently have 28 players out on loan.Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 06, 2021, 06:43:35 PM
Not saying it's right but would a stockpile and loan work for us ala Chelsea benefit us?
What is a stockpile and loan? What player/s?
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 06, 2021, 07:44:14 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 06, 2021, 07:13:15 PMGoing on Chelsea's model you buy all and sundry with potential and loan them out.Chelsea currently have 28 players out on loan.Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 06, 2021, 06:43:35 PM
Not saying it's right but would a stockpile and loan work for us ala Chelsea benefit us?
What is a stockpile and loan? What player/s?
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 06, 2021, 07:44:14 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 06, 2021, 07:13:15 PMGoing on Chelsea's model you buy all and sundry with potential and loan them out.Chelsea currently have 28 players out on loan.Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 06, 2021, 06:43:35 PM
Not saying it's right but would a stockpile and loan work for us ala Chelsea benefit us?
What is a stockpile and loan? What player/s?
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 06, 2021, 11:30:35 PMQuote from: mrmicawbers on January 06, 2021, 07:44:14 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 06, 2021, 07:13:15 PMGoing on Chelsea's model you buy all and sundry with potential and loan them out.Chelsea currently have 28 players out on loan.Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 06, 2021, 06:43:35 PM
Not saying it's right but would a stockpile and loan work for us ala Chelsea benefit us?
What is a stockpile and loan? What player/s?
The FFP workaround
Quote from: JoeS on January 07, 2021, 10:34:56 AMBut we have Anguissa and Reed. leave well alone ad concentrate on that striker.
We have also been linked to Ozan Tufan from Fenerbache (along with a few other Prem clubs), holding midfielder
Quote from: JoeS on January 07, 2021, 10:34:56 AM
We have also been linked to Ozan Tufan from Fenerbache (along with a few other Prem clubs), holding midfielder
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 07, 2021, 06:31:54 PM
We bought anyone yet?
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Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 07, 2021, 09:17:07 PM
Wow...Ryan Babel lost 26 lbs due to catching Covid in November (https://www.dailysabah.com/sports/football/galatasarays-babel-sheds-12-kilograms-due-to-severe-case-of-covid-19).
Well, he's off my list of wants. Wanted him prior to the season starting, but we need to bring in an in form player that can contribute NOW. (Same reason I don't want Gayle)
Definitely want a player that can have a similar impact to what Ryan Babel gave us two seasons ago though.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 07, 2021, 09:32:32 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 07, 2021, 09:17:07 PM
Wow...Ryan Babel lost 26 lbs due to catching Covid in November (https://www.dailysabah.com/sports/football/galatasarays-babel-sheds-12-kilograms-due-to-severe-case-of-covid-19).
Well, he's off my list of wants. Wanted him prior to the season starting, but we need to bring in an in form player that can contribute NOW. (Same reason I don't want Gayle)
Definitely want a player that can have a similar impact to what Ryan Babel gave us two seasons ago though.
Sad, Ryan Babel caught Covid-19 in November and it seems like his career is now basically over at least he won't play at an elite level for 90 minutes for many more games. We could lose a player too.
Quote from: Statto on January 07, 2021, 10:02:05 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 07, 2021, 09:32:32 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 07, 2021, 09:17:07 PM
Wow...Ryan Babel lost 26 lbs due to catching Covid in November (https://www.dailysabah.com/sports/football/galatasarays-babel-sheds-12-kilograms-due-to-severe-case-of-covid-19).
Well, he's off my list of wants. Wanted him prior to the season starting, but we need to bring in an in form player that can contribute NOW. (Same reason I don't want Gayle)
Definitely want a player that can have a similar impact to what Ryan Babel gave us two seasons ago though.
Sad, Ryan Babel caught Covid-19 in November and it seems like his career is now basically over at least he won't play at an elite level for 90 minutes for many more games. We could lose a player too.
Lol. According to his own Instagram he was back in training on 3 December, so two weeks after getting the virus. Transfermarkt (and this article, somewhat confusingly) attributes his absence for a further few weeks to a back problem. In any case he's now back in team, having come off the bench in their last fixture. The headline claiming he lost two stone is patently BS since that is basically impossible in that timeframe unless you are dead. Why do people so readily swallow this rubbish?
Quote from: Statto on January 07, 2021, 10:47:06 PM
@AOB
I wasn't having a dig at you, and agree with your point that he may not be 100% still, and that's what we need
I just didnt agree with the subsequent, slightly ridiculous comment that his career is over because he caught Covid-19
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 08, 2021, 11:06:43 AM
West Ham favourites to get Josh King
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 07, 2021, 10:41:19 PMQuote from: Statto on January 07, 2021, 10:02:05 PMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 07, 2021, 09:32:32 PMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 07, 2021, 09:17:07 PM
Wow...Ryan Babel lost 26 lbs due to catching Covid in November (https://www.dailysabah.com/sports/football/galatasarays-babel-sheds-12-kilograms-due-to-severe-case-of-covid-19).
Well, he's off my list of wants. Wanted him prior to the season starting, but we need to bring in an in form player that can contribute NOW. (Same reason I don't want Gayle)
Definitely want a player that can have a similar impact to what Ryan Babel gave us two seasons ago though.
Sad, Ryan Babel caught Covid-19 in November and it seems like his career is now basically over at least he won't play at an elite level for 90 minutes for many more games. We could lose a player too.
Lol. According to his own Instagram he was back in training on 3 December, so two weeks after getting the virus. Transfermarkt (and this article, somewhat confusingly) attributes his absence for a further few weeks to a back problem. In any case he's now back in team, having come off the bench in their last fixture. The headline claiming he lost two stone is patently BS since that is basically impossible in that timeframe unless you are dead. Why do people so readily swallow this rubbish?
Well...if you can't believe articles on the internet...who can you believe? And I think you know I've been in Ryan's camp...since before the season started. I just read that particular article today.
Thanks. Would swap Ryan for Seri every day of the week...but even I am concerned that he can play full 80 minute matches after not starting one game for Galatasaray this season.
Love Ryan Babel though.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Italian or Italy based Fulham fan on Twitter (Fulham Italy) mentioned we should check out Christian Kouame from Fiorentina, not sure how good he is but looks exactly the type of player we need. Pace & strength & versatile
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 08, 2021, 12:18:02 PMRedmond is class when he's on form. Can score goals. Good shout
Looks like we have a good relationship with Southampton given the deals in the recent years; sign Lemina and take Redmond on Loan to buy? Not getting games with them atm and he started his career as an inverted RW in Norwich...can't believe he's only 26(!) feels like he has been around forever.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Italian or Italy based Fulham fan on Twitter (Fulham Italy) mentioned we should check out Christian Kouame from Fiorentina, not sure how good he is but looks exactly the type of player we need. Pace & strength & versatile
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 08, 2021, 12:19:26 PMQuote from: We Are Premier League on January 08, 2021, 12:18:02 PMRedmond is class when he's on form. Can score goals. Good shout
Looks like we have a good relationship with Southampton given the deals in the recent years; sign Lemina and take Redmond on Loan to buy? Not getting games with them atm and he started his career as an inverted RW in Norwich...can't believe he's only 26(!) feels like he has been around forever.
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Quote from: Radiowhite on January 08, 2021, 01:08:05 PM
Lots of people seem to think stats are the most important feature in signing a player, especially how many goals they have scored in a certain number of games. This is important, but I think it more important a player has the necessary traits, pace, physicality, composure etc. From there if you trust their ability and put them in a good system good performances will come. Lookman is a good example of this, he's never had a brilliant scoring record, but I think we would all say is by far our best attacker. The elusive 15-20 goal a season premier league striker is so hard to come by, especially in January, and then even more so when he are battling relegation, that it is not what we should be setting our sights on. So when referencing players I don't think it is best to always simply come back with their goal scoring records elsewhere without ever having watched them play
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 08, 2021, 12:30:24 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Italian or Italy based Fulham fan on Twitter (Fulham Italy) mentioned we should check out Christian Kouame from Fiorentina, not sure how good he is but looks exactly the type of player we need. Pace & strength & versatile
Hope not - his stats show he scores the odd goal when he feels like it
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 08, 2021, 12:03:56 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Italian or Italy based Fulham fan on Twitter (Fulham Italy) mentioned we should check out Christian Kouame from Fiorentina, not sure how good he is but looks exactly the type of player we need. Pace & strength & versatile
1 goal in 13 games is hardly prolific
Quote from: river phoenix on January 08, 2021, 02:16:15 PMThis is my point as above ^Quote from: sunburywhite on January 08, 2021, 12:03:56 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Italian or Italy based Fulham fan on Twitter (Fulham Italy) mentioned we should check out Christian Kouame from Fiorentina, not sure how good he is but looks exactly the type of player we need. Pace & strength & versatile
1 goal in 13 games is hardly prolific
Look at Saha goal ratio before he joined Fulham.
Edit: just saw Hillingdon said exactly this.
Quote from: Radiowhite on January 08, 2021, 02:17:57 PMQuote from: river phoenix on January 08, 2021, 02:16:15 PMThis is my point as above ^Quote from: sunburywhite on January 08, 2021, 12:03:56 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Italian or Italy based Fulham fan on Twitter (Fulham Italy) mentioned we should check out Christian Kouame from Fiorentina, not sure how good he is but looks exactly the type of player we need. Pace & strength & versatile
1 goal in 13 games is hardly prolific
Look at Saha goal ratio before he joined Fulham.
Edit: just saw Hillingdon said exactly this.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 01:21:55 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 08, 2021, 12:30:24 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Italian or Italy based Fulham fan on Twitter (Fulham Italy) mentioned we should check out Christian Kouame from Fiorentina, not sure how good he is but looks exactly the type of player we need. Pace & strength & versatile
Hope not - his stats show he scores the odd goal when he feels like it
Bit like Saha before we signed him then, about 5 in 50 odd for Metz & one in 11 for Newcastle
Don't think we're going to able to be attract someone who's a goal in every 2-3 games. This fella can play wide too. Just think we need some pace & mobility up top, but agree his goalscoring record looks a bit iffy
Quote from: rebel on January 08, 2021, 01:16:00 PMQuote from: Radiowhite on January 08, 2021, 01:08:05 PM
Lots of people seem to think stats are the most important feature in signing a player, especially how many goals they have scored in a certain number of games. This is important, but I think it more important a player has the necessary traits, pace, physicality, composure etc. From there if you trust their ability and put them in a good system good performances will come. Lookman is a good example of this, he's never had a brilliant scoring record, but I think we would all say is by far our best attacker. The elusive 15-20 goal a season premier league striker is so hard to come by, especially in January, and then even more so when he are battling relegation, that it is not what we should be setting our sights on. So when referencing players I don't think it is best to always simply come back with their goal scoring records elsewhere without ever having watched them play
That's all correct. But if you don't have a stats backed goal scorer, all you will be doing is adding 'more of the same' which we already have in the squad, we are still lacking goals.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 08, 2021, 03:53:00 PM
Knockaert staying at Forest until the end of the season.
Quote from: Arthur on January 08, 2021, 03:35:15 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 01:21:55 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 08, 2021, 12:30:24 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Italian or Italy based Fulham fan on Twitter (Fulham Italy) mentioned we should check out Christian Kouame from Fiorentina, not sure how good he is but looks exactly the type of player we need. Pace & strength & versatile
Hope not - his stats show he scores the odd goal when he feels like it
Bit like Saha before we signed him then, about 5 in 50 odd for Metz & one in 11 for Newcastle
Don't think we're going to able to be attract someone who's a goal in every 2-3 games. This fella can play wide too. Just think we need some pace & mobility up top, but agree his goalscoring record looks a bit iffy
Agree that we won't be buying someone whose scoring rate at the highest level is anything to get too excited about. I don't know of Kouame at all, so it's certainly tempting to think he could turn out to be another Saha. On the other hand, he could just as easily have a more difficult introduction like, say, Cutrone had at Wolves. Having scored just 2 in 12 in the opening months of last season, Cutrone spent all of 2020 back in Italy - on loan, as it happens, at Fiorentina. It's also worth noting that though Saha was high scoring for us in his first season, this was in the Championship. He wasn't anything like as prolific in our first season in the P.L. (8 goals in 36 league games so the statistics tell me).
With potential targets with P.L. experience seemingly thin on the ground, we may well have to look abroad. As an immediate short-term fix, however, a player with no previous P.L. experience will be a big gamble, in my opinion.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 05:03:21 PMQuote from: Arthur on January 08, 2021, 03:35:15 PM
It's also worth noting that though Saha was high scoring for us in his first season, this was in the Championship. He wasn't anything like as prolific in our first season in the P.L. (8 goals in 36 league games so the statistics tell me).
Re Saha, he was never fully fit the following season, had hamstring problems all season long, they would hamper his career in later years. The season after though when he was firing on all cylinders he got something like 15 goals in 20 odd games before going to Utd in December, he was on course for 30+plus goals for us in the top flight. Not sure anyone else had achieved that?
Quote from: rebel on January 08, 2021, 06:18:44 PM
I think our business will be a continuation of the last wndow, maybe worth checking out the names available. Fulham has been pretty consistent in that regard.
Quote from: Arthur on January 08, 2021, 05:51:53 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 05:03:21 PMQuote from: Arthur on January 08, 2021, 03:35:15 PM
It's also worth noting that though Saha was high scoring for us in his first season, this was in the Championship. He wasn't anything like as prolific in our first season in the P.L. (8 goals in 36 league games so the statistics tell me).
Re Saha, he was never fully fit the following season, had hamstring problems all season long, they would hamper his career in later years. The season after though when he was firing on all cylinders he got something like 15 goals in 20 odd games before going to Utd in December, he was on course for 30+plus goals for us in the top flight. Not sure anyone else had achieved that?
Saha played in 36 of our 38 league matches that first season in the P.L. It's not a figure that suggests he was hampered by an injury problem. I believe you're thinking of the following season with us when his number of appearances was restricted to 17.
I think it's fair to say that Saha needed time to get used to the demands of the P.L. before we saw the best of him at that level.
Quote from: davew on January 08, 2021, 06:37:22 PMUsually crocks
No doubt we will wait for last minute bargains, will there be any, not usually!
Quote from: rebel on January 08, 2021, 06:18:44 PMUnfortunately
I think our business will be a continuation of the last wndow, maybe worth checking out the names available. Fulham has been pretty consistent in that regard.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 08, 2021, 12:30:24 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 08, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Italian or Italy based Fulham fan on Twitter (Fulham Italy) mentioned we should check out Christian Kouame from Fiorentina, not sure how good he is but looks exactly the type of player we need. Pace & strength & versatile
Hope not - his stats show he scores the odd goal when he feels like it
Quote from: St Eve on January 08, 2021, 09:52:16 PM
Letting Mitro go would be just about the most stupid thing we have done and we have done a lot of stupid things in the past
Quote from: St Eve on January 08, 2021, 09:52:16 PMhope he gets a game tomorrow and gets some goals.Show us what we're missing Mitro.
Letting Mitro go would be just about the most stupid thing we have done and we have done a lot of stupid things in the past
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 08, 2021, 10:01:04 PMHard to think who we could possibly sign that would do better for us than Mitro is likely to over the remainder of the season.Quote from: St Eve on January 08, 2021, 09:52:16 PMhope he gets a game tomorrow and gets some goals.Show us what we're missing Mitro.
Letting Mitro go would be just about the most stupid thing we have done and we have done a lot of stupid things in the past
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 08, 2021, 04:49:53 PM
This is Why Manchester United Want To Sign Umar Sadiq 2020
I know, I know, even I could look good in edited clips. Seems like he knows how to fall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNEP8cT9pXI
Quote from: filham on January 08, 2021, 10:30:18 PMQuote from: mrmicawbers on January 08, 2021, 10:01:04 PMHard to think who we could possibly sign that would do better for us than Mitro is likely to over the remainder of the season.Quote from: St Eve on January 08, 2021, 09:52:16 PMhope he gets a game tomorrow and gets some goals.Show us what we're missing Mitro.
Letting Mitro go would be just about the most stupid thing we have done and we have done a lot of stupid things in the past
Quote from: Jim© on January 08, 2021, 03:50:53 PM
I mentioned Boulaye Dia from Reims a month or two ago, but see hes' now being linked with other teams. Would be a good, cheap (relatively) option who I really believe would score goals. 10 in 16 this season.
Quote from: Moltobueno on January 09, 2021, 07:54:08 AM
Everton want to get rid of Moise Kean, thoughts?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 09, 2021, 08:29:12 AMQuote from: Moltobueno on January 09, 2021, 07:54:08 AM
Everton want to get rid of Moise Kean, thoughts?
He fits the requirements Fulham desperately need.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 09, 2021, 08:29:12 AMQuote from: Moltobueno on January 09, 2021, 07:54:08 AM
Everton want to get rid of Moise Kean, thoughts?
He fits the requirements Fulham desperately need.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 09, 2021, 03:33:10 AM
I understand, we probably need another Premier League Striker to increase our odds of staying up to greater than 50% and to buy another Striker we need to sell Mitrovic or Anguissa this window. But, Fulham would be foolish to sell Mitrovic, just to have a chance to stay up, because we will need him if we go down. Every Club with financial problems thought short-term, we must not do the same.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 09, 2021, 07:43:25 PM
Huddersfield in for AK.
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on January 09, 2021, 07:58:11 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 09, 2021, 07:43:25 PM
Huddersfield in for AK.
Where have you heard that?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 10, 2021, 05:51:39 AM
Today's paper gossip.
Charlie Austin gone back to QPR.
Everton and WBA looking at Josh King.
Moussa Dembele,Lyon to Atletico Madrid.
Quote from: Andyb on January 10, 2021, 09:51:11 AM
Should try go for Adam Armstrong, he's so good. Quick, strong and knows how to finish. Get him for 20m at the most.
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 11, 2021, 12:20:06 AMQuote from: Andyb on January 10, 2021, 09:51:11 AM
Should try go for Adam Armstrong, he's so good. Quick, strong and knows how to finish. Get him for 20m at the most.
I actually think Bburn could agree to sell him, they are not going either up or down this season ans there is only 1.5y left on his contract...Ike Ugbo is another name that i would be interested in, apparently for sale at 5m.
Quote from: rebel on January 11, 2021, 06:47:42 AM
Cauley Woodrow is scoring regularly for Barnsley, knows the club, a better player now.
Quote from: rebel on January 11, 2021, 06:47:42 AM
Cauley Woodrow is scoring regularly for Barnsley, knows the club, a better player now.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 10:39:19 AM
Adam Armstrong makes perfect sense and for not too much (in relative terms). Seems like a no brainer for me.
Quote from: JimOG on January 11, 2021, 10:43:15 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 10:39:19 AM
Adam Armstrong makes perfect sense and for not too much (in relative terms). Seems like a no brainer for me.
Would prefer a more experienced plater. For me Deeney (contract expires in June) or Ighalo would be better. Deeney in particular has recent form and we need to pick up points now
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 11, 2021, 12:09:45 PMQuote from: JimOG on January 11, 2021, 10:43:15 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 10:39:19 AM
Adam Armstrong makes perfect sense and for not too much (in relative terms). Seems like a no brainer for me.
Would prefer a more experienced plater. For me Deeney (contract expires in June) or Ighalo would be better. Deeney in particular has recent form and we need to pick up points now
Not sure I see the point in having Deeney and Mitro. Surely we'd want someone a bit quicker if we were to sign a striker?
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 12:36:57 PMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 11, 2021, 12:09:45 PMQuote from: JimOG on January 11, 2021, 10:43:15 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 10:39:19 AM
Adam Armstrong makes perfect sense and for not too much (in relative terms). Seems like a no brainer for me.
Would prefer a more experienced plater. For me Deeney (contract expires in June) or Ighalo would be better. Deeney in particular has recent form and we need to pick up points now
Not sure I see the point in having Deeney and Mitro. Surely we'd want someone a bit quicker if we were to sign a striker?
Agreed, think it's worth going for someone younger and quicker to contrast Mitro.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 11, 2021, 01:16:08 PMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 12:36:57 PMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 11, 2021, 12:09:45 PMQuote from: JimOG on January 11, 2021, 10:43:15 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 10:39:19 AM
Adam Armstrong makes perfect sense and for not too much (in relative terms). Seems like a no brainer for me.
Would prefer a more experienced plater. For me Deeney (contract expires in June) or Ighalo would be better. Deeney in particular has recent form and we need to pick up points now
Not sure I see the point in having Deeney and Mitro. Surely we'd want someone a bit quicker if we were to sign a striker?
Agreed, think it's worth going for someone younger and quicker to contrast Mitro.
Mitrovic is 26, hardly past it
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 11, 2021, 03:11:17 PM
Wonder if Tonys priority is a striker for us, a coach for the jags, or men in tights?
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Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 12:36:57 PMYes, I guess we would be looking for some one like Cav. but with a shade more pace and an ability to score from time to time.Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 11, 2021, 12:09:45 PMQuote from: JimOG on January 11, 2021, 10:43:15 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 10:39:19 AM
Adam Armstrong makes perfect sense and for not too much (in relative terms). Seems like a no brainer for me.
Would prefer a more experienced plater. For me Deeney (contract expires in June) or Ighalo would be better. Deeney in particular has recent form and we need to pick up points now
Not sure I see the point in having Deeney and Mitro. Surely we'd want someone a bit quicker if we were to sign a striker?
Agreed, think it's worth going for someone younger and quicker to contrast Mitro.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 03:54:17 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 11, 2021, 01:16:08 PMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 12:36:57 PMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 11, 2021, 12:09:45 PMQuote from: JimOG on January 11, 2021, 10:43:15 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 11, 2021, 10:39:19 AM
Adam Armstrong makes perfect sense and for not too much (in relative terms). Seems like a no brainer for me.
Would prefer a more experienced plater. For me Deeney (contract expires in June) or Ighalo would be better. Deeney in particular has recent form and we need to pick up points now
Not sure I see the point in having Deeney and Mitro. Surely we'd want someone a bit quicker if we were to sign a striker?
Agreed, think it's worth going for someone younger and quicker to contrast Mitro.
Mitrovic is 26, hardly past it
No sorry wasn't saying Mitro is past it! Just saying i don't think it's worth having a 30+ Deeney on the bench, think someone like Armstrong would 1) benefit the first team 2) get experience on the bench at a higher level.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 11, 2021, 08:02:33 PMprobably score more than cav.
Ade Akinfenwa incoming.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 11, 2021, 08:02:33 PM
Ade Akinfenwa incoming.
/photo/1Moisés Caicedo🇪🇨, el crack de Independiente del Valle, fue vendido al Brighton. Esta semana le darán su visa de trabajo y luego viajará a 🇬🇧. pic.twitter.com/GE8fZNR8Zs
— César Luis Merlo (@CLMerlo) January 11, 2021
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 11, 2021, 08:02:33 PM
Ade Akinfenwa incoming.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 11, 2021, 08:02:33 PM
Ade Akinfenwa incoming.
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 04:23:23 AMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Who (out of the central defenders) do we think that we could have got in earlier in the window?
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have loaned in "Jochim Anderson" when he was a starter in the Olympique Lyon team for their first three games this season? Or our we suggesting Tony Khan should sign him after he realized he wasn't the Clubs Centre Back for the Season? Note, 24 hours after Anderson's third game on the bench for "Olympique Lyon", Tony Khan signed him.
Could we seriously have signed Anderson earlier? I doubt it.
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have signed "Tosin Adarabioyo" when he was given the sixth homegrown player spot in the Manchester City squad? Or, after he discovered that they will Manchester City will only need five homegrown player's this season? Note, ten days after Tosin wasn't named in the EFL Cup team, and five days after ManCity recruited Rúben Dias, which ended his dream of playing for ManCity, Tony Khan recruited him.
Could we seriously have signed Tosin earlier? I doubt it.
We could have recruited Kongolo earlier, but he couldn't have played earlier.
Quote from: Jeroen on January 12, 2021, 07:56:27 AM
@rational fan - I agree, but this window we have two 'must win' games on the 26th and 30tb of January - if we want a striker that makes an immediate impact iT needs to be before these games. loose both and only bringing in Messi might save us. Tongue in cheek offcourse, but a) getting a striker to join us if we lose both is going to be more difficult and b) it would be even more risky forking out heavy on a striker.
(Not saying we will lose those games without a striker, but it's for all obvious to see that we miss goals at the moment)
Quote from: KJS on January 12, 2021, 08:25:34 AM
None of us know our target players or whether they are available even if we do want them, the current Covis situation is up in the air so getti g players in may not be straight forward and the new rules on bringing players in for Europe are stringent so patience is needed plus how many club have managed to bring in any decent players so far🤔
Quote from: sarnian on January 12, 2021, 08:08:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 04:23:23 AMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Who (out of the central defenders) do we think that we could have got in earlier in the window?
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have loaned in "Jochim Anderson" when he was a starter in the Olympique Lyon team for their first three games this season? Or our we suggesting Tony Khan should sign him after he realized he wasn't the Clubs Centre Back for the Season? Note, 24 hours after Anderson's third game on the bench for "Olympique Lyon", Tony Khan signed him.
Could we seriously have signed Anderson earlier? I doubt it.
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have signed "Tosin Adarabioyo" when he was given the sixth homegrown player spot in the Manchester City squad? Or, after he discovered that they will Manchester City will only need five homegrown player's this season? Note, ten days after Tosin wasn't named in the EFL Cup team, and five days after ManCity recruited Rúben Dias, which ended his dream of playing for ManCity, Tony Khan recruited him.
Could we seriously have signed Tosin earlier? I doubt it.
We could have recruited Kongolo earlier, but he couldn't have played earlier.
It amazes me when people criticise TK for leaving business until late in a window. Do they have any idea how the transfer system works. Nearly all deals are done late simply because players, clubs, and especially agents try and screw the best deals they can get.
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
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Quote from: sarnian on January 12, 2021, 08:08:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 04:23:23 AMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Who (out of the central defenders) do we think that we could have got in earlier in the window?
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have loaned in "Jochim Anderson" when he was a starter in the Olympique Lyon team for their first three games this season? Or our we suggesting Tony Khan should sign him after he realized he wasn't the Clubs Centre Back for the Season? Note, 24 hours after Anderson's third game on the bench for "Olympique Lyon", Tony Khan signed him.
Could we seriously have signed Anderson earlier? I doubt it.
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have signed "Tosin Adarabioyo" when he was given the sixth homegrown player spot in the Manchester City squad? Or, after he discovered that they will Manchester City will only need five homegrown player's this season? Note, ten days after Tosin wasn't named in the EFL Cup team, and five days after ManCity recruited Rúben Dias, which ended his dream of playing for ManCity, Tony Khan recruited him.
Could we seriously have signed Tosin earlier? I doubt it.
We could have recruited Kongolo earlier, but he couldn't have played earlier.
It amazes me when people criticise TK for leaving business until late in a window. Do they have any idea how the transfer system works. Nearly all deals are done late simply because players, clubs, and especially agents try and screw the best deals they can get.
Quote from: filham on January 12, 2021, 11:06:58 AM
In our last three matches we have played 90 minutes without scoring. Will this fact change TK's policy of waiting until late in the Window in the hope of picking up bargain basement buys.
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 12, 2021, 11:20:35 AM
Daniel Levy says Tottenham transfer critics have no grasp of difficult market
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/daniel-levy-tottenham-transfer-critics-no-grasp-difficult-market-a4540931.html
I know this wont please all the TK bashers but even the hreat Daniel Levy says "As we know the activity always happens in the last week of the window."
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 12, 2021, 11:53:34 AMQuote from: 70sPimlico on January 12, 2021, 11:21:50 AMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on January 12, 2021, 11:10:50 AMQuote from: filham on January 12, 2021, 11:06:58 AM
In our last three matches we have played 90 minutes without scoring. Will this fact change TK's policy of waiting until late in the Window in the hope of picking up bargain basement buys.
Think we all know the answer to this one!
I do. I think he's a bitter old goat that posts lots of sourness on a forum and somehow turning our purchase of Antonee & Tosin into a negative is just a sign of his state of mind
Ask yourself this. If Kmac & Stefjo's time at the club is now at an end and they are going to leave this window. Is the fact they have not already left down to TK, or is it, in fact that the players and their agents are waiting to the last possible time to get the best possible deal for themselves and their clients?
Sorry are you referring to me or Filham here? :016:
Quote from: rebel on January 12, 2021, 12:08:34 PMQuote from: sunburywhite on January 12, 2021, 11:20:35 AM
Daniel Levy says Tottenham transfer critics have no grasp of difficult market
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/daniel-levy-tottenham-transfer-critics-no-grasp-difficult-market-a4540931.html
I know this wont please all the TK bashers but even the hreat Daniel Levy says "As we know the activity always happens in the last week of the window."
That's a 'self fulfilling prophecy' comment, he started the last minute transfer business thing (before that I remember transfers being spread out over the window), now he's saying 'all the business happens in the last week of the transfer window', go figure.
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 12, 2021, 12:17:54 PMQuote from: rebel on January 12, 2021, 12:08:34 PMQuote from: sunburywhite on January 12, 2021, 11:20:35 AM
Daniel Levy says Tottenham transfer critics have no grasp of difficult market
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/daniel-levy-tottenham-transfer-critics-no-grasp-difficult-market-a4540931.html
I know this wont please all the TK bashers but even the hreat Daniel Levy says "As we know the activity always happens in the last week of the window."
That's a 'self fulfilling prophecy' comment, he started the last minute transfer business thing (before that I remember transfers being spread out over the window), now he's saying 'all the business happens in the last week of the transfer window', go figure.
As has been explained before, you dont really think theyy wake up with a week to go and decide "oh we had better buy someone"
The scouting and looking at players goes on 12 months a year, not just during the 2 windows
Lets say on 10th January someone came in for Cairney (its not expected so you may well not have thought about who to replace him), so you have to speak to people and other clubs to find a replacement, the other clubs have to do the same
Its very much like buying a house, you dont just rock up and move in
Quote from: rebel on January 12, 2021, 01:59:10 PM
There is no doubt Levy has set a trend in transfers, 'the last day 'wheeling and dealing', remember Dembele and Dempsey. It's a bit rich now saying 'transfers are all' conducted in the last week. It's his turf, he's good at it, but others has wised up to it, they 'play hardball'.
Quote from: Statto on January 12, 2021, 02:06:55 PMEveryone's a transfer expert. QPR got Charlie Austin on Saturday. If you need players that badly you can sort it out. TK even admitted it can be done earlier.Quote from: rebel on January 12, 2021, 01:59:10 PM
There is no doubt Levy has set a trend in transfers, 'the last day 'wheeling and dealing', remember Dembele and Dempsey. It's a bit rich now saying 'transfers are all' conducted in the last week. It's his turf, he's good at it, but others has wised up to it, they 'play hardball'.
Yep it's a bit like another club's fans saying it's fine to have a DoF who spends most of his time working on a wrestling franchise because Fulham do it
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 06:02:12 PMQuote from: Statto on January 12, 2021, 02:06:55 PMEveryone's a transfer expert. QPR got Charlie Austin on Saturday. If you need players that badly you can sort it out. TK even admitted it can be done earlier.Quote from: rebel on January 12, 2021, 01:59:10 PM
There is no doubt Levy has set a trend in transfers, 'the last day 'wheeling and dealing', remember Dembele and Dempsey. It's a bit rich now saying 'transfers are all' conducted in the last week. It's his turf, he's good at it, but others has wised up to it, they 'play hardball'.
Yep it's a bit like another club's fans saying it's fine to have a DoF who spends most of his time working on a wrestling franchise because Fulham do it
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Quote from: jayffc on January 12, 2021, 06:40:34 PM
we're really back here - same conversation every window.
We can make early additions, sometimes we do, sometimes clubs like ours, a playoff winning team fighting to stay up, are more likely to get our players later in the window. I'm very happy with the business we did in January with the exception that we needed forward options, I want us to address that this window, the sounds appear to be that the club know that. If we don't do that I'll be vocally fuming about it. That said, I would happily wait until the end of the window if it was the difference between signing the likes of Charlie Austin - or someone more the level of Joachim Anderson, Tosin, Areola etc. We've shown we have enough to compete and stay in the race so far, our rivals havent exactly made huge strides this window, so im not shaking in my boots yet.
Yes it could be that it ends up being that the late signings arent all that good too, but it's not definitive either way, so just take a breather or we're just back here with the same exchange every time. Every DOF says the same thing that speaks about it publically, conversely, I haven't seen any owner or DOF out there publically saying that it's really easy to get the deals you want done early if you really want them. They are occasionally yes, in specific situations where the player is extremely keen on the move (Austin had one of his most successful stints at QPR and is a legend there so I'm not suprised by that) but if we want top quality,as a club like us, often those types of players will have options and take their time. Sadly in this day and age, it's not in the agent's interest to rush and miss out on other offers. It is what it is. Do we really have to jump to the conclusion that TK or the board is useless or uninterested, or not available... every window? If the club could write a list of their top targets, offer the top ones a fee, have it accepted - and sign the player on the 1st of Jan, they would. Theres literally no reason not to....but as said ad neusium, most of the time it isn't that easy....let alone doing all this during a global pandemic + the first post brexit window.
I'd like it to be sooner, I'd like us to have signed 2 forward on January the first, but I can understand it isn't always as straight forward as that. Last window we signed some really good additions earlier on - Robinson - Tete - Lemina - Reed. But we also signed some top quality when it became available and all avenues had been explored (Anderson, Areola, Tosin....not so much RLC though most believed that would work out better than it did). So for me they've earnt enough trust to get something over the line that gives us a good chance. As stated above, there have been barely any top signings made so far across the board. Why we go-round on this over and over I'll never know.
Quote from: rebel on January 12, 2021, 12:09:56 PMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on January 12, 2021, 11:53:34 AMQuote from: 70sPimlico on January 12, 2021, 11:21:50 AMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on January 12, 2021, 11:10:50 AMQuote from: filham on January 12, 2021, 11:06:58 AM
In our last three matches we have played 90 minutes without scoring. Will this fact change TK's policy of waiting until late in the Window in the hope of picking up bargain basement buys.
Think we all know the answer to this one!
I do. I think he's a bitter old goat that posts lots of sourness on a forum and somehow turning our purchase of Antonee & Tosin into a negative is just a sign of his state of mind
Ask yourself this. If Kmac & Stefjo's time at the club is now at an end and they are going to leave this window. Is the fact they have not already left down to TK, or is it, in fact that the players and their agents are waiting to the last possible time to get the best possible deal for themselves and their clients?
Sorry are you referring to me or Filham here? :016:
Lost in translation, I think they are talking about 'goats'.
[/quoteQuote from: rebel on January 12, 2021, 12:09:56 PMI will accept being called a grumpy old man but the word bitter hurts as really I am quite a happy person and do count my blessings. All I was trying to question was is TK conscious that we need a new striker as soon as possible and that a delay could mean the difference between relegation and survival.Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 12, 2021, 11:53:34 AMQuote from: 70sPimlico on January 12, 2021, 11:21:50 AMQuote from: Maidstone Lee on January 12, 2021, 11:10:50 AMQuote from: filham on January 12, 2021, 11:06:58 AM
In our last three matches we have played 90 minutes without scoring. Will this fact change TK's policy of waiting until late in the Window in the hope of picking up bargain basement buys.
Think we all know the answer to this one!
I do. I think he's a bitter old goat that posts lots of sourness on a forum and somehow turning our purchase of Antonee & Tosin into a negative is just a sign of his state of mind
Ask yourself this. If Kmac & Stefjo's time at the club is now at an end and they are going to leave this window. Is the fact they have not already left down to TK, or is it, in fact that the players and their agents are waiting to the last possible time to get the best possible deal for themselves and their clients?
Sorry are you referring to me or Filham here? :016:
Lost in translation, I think they are talking about 'goats'.
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 06:02:12 PMQuote from: Statto on January 12, 2021, 02:06:55 PMEveryone's a transfer expert. QPR got Charlie Austin on Saturday. If you need players that badly you can sort it out. TK even admitted it can be done earlier.Quote from: rebel on January 12, 2021, 01:59:10 PM
There is no doubt Levy has set a trend in transfers, 'the last day 'wheeling and dealing', remember Dembele and Dempsey. It's a bit rich now saying 'transfers are all' conducted in the last week. It's his turf, he's good at it, but others has wised up to it, they 'play hardball'.
Yep it's a bit like another club's fans saying it's fine to have a DoF who spends most of his time working on a wrestling franchise because Fulham do it
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Quote from: jayffc on January 12, 2021, 06:40:34 PM
we're really back here - same conversation every window.
Quote from: Statto on January 12, 2021, 08:23:09 PMQuote from: jayffc on January 12, 2021, 06:40:34 PM
we're really back here - same conversation every window.
Same conversation every window because we have the same issue every window. It isn't just fans moaning about the general nature of the market. It's a Fulham-specific issue. Analyse metrics such as the average dates of our transfers, the proportion of transfers we do on deadline day etc and they show that whilst all clubs' business is inevitably skewed towards the end of the window, we're still consistently slower to make signings than the majority of clubs.
I'd add that we should, given our status as England's preeminent yo-yo club, be doing business quicker than most. For most clubs, a few points dropped by being slow in the market will be the difference between finishing 11th and 13th or something like that. For us, it's the difference between achieving or not achieving promotion/relegation. This will almost certainly be the 4th season in a row where we finish within one or two places of the threshold for promotion/ relegation. So bringing in that replacement for Chris Martin, Tim Ream or Ivan Cavaleiro a couple of weeks earlier really does have the potential to define our season.
Quote from: sarnian on January 12, 2021, 08:08:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 04:23:23 AMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Who (out of the central defenders) do we think that we could have got in earlier in the window?
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have loaned in "Jochim Anderson" when he was a starter in the Olympique Lyon team for their first three games this season? Or our we suggesting Tony Khan should sign him after he realized he wasn't the Clubs Centre Back for the Season? Note, 24 hours after Anderson's third game on the bench for "Olympique Lyon", Tony Khan signed him.
Could we seriously have signed Anderson earlier? I doubt it.
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have signed "Tosin Adarabioyo" when he was given the sixth homegrown player spot in the Manchester City squad? Or, after he discovered that they will Manchester City will only need five homegrown player's this season? Note, ten days after Tosin wasn't named in the EFL Cup team, and five days after ManCity recruited Rúben Dias, which ended his dream of playing for ManCity, Tony Khan recruited him.
Could we seriously have signed Tosin earlier? I doubt it.
We could have recruited Kongolo earlier, but he couldn't have played earlier.
It amazes me when people criticise TK for leaving business until late in a window. Do they have any idea how the transfer system works. Nearly all deals are done late simply because players, clubs, and especially agents try and screw the best deals they can get.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 10:56:46 PMQuote from: sarnian on January 12, 2021, 08:08:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 04:23:23 AMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Who (out of the central defenders) do we think that we could have got in earlier in the window?
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have loaned in "Jochim Anderson" when he was a starter in the Olympique Lyon team for their first three games this season? Or our we suggesting Tony Khan should sign him after he realized he wasn't the Clubs Centre Back for the Season? Note, 24 hours after Anderson's third game on the bench for "Olympique Lyon", Tony Khan signed him.
Could we seriously have signed Anderson earlier? I doubt it.
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have signed "Tosin Adarabioyo" when he was given the sixth homegrown player spot in the Manchester City squad? Or, after he discovered that they will Manchester City will only need five homegrown player's this season? Note, ten days after Tosin wasn't named in the EFL Cup team, and five days after ManCity recruited Rúben Dias, which ended his dream of playing for ManCity, Tony Khan recruited him.
Could we seriously have signed Tosin earlier? I doubt it.
We could have recruited Kongolo earlier, but he couldn't have played earlier.
It amazes me when people criticise TK for leaving business until late in a window. Do they have any idea how the transfer system works. Nearly all deals are done late simply because players, clubs, and especially agents try and screw the best deals they can get.
It amazes me people think buying players early in the window is a good idea, when the eleven have Toby Khan has bought before the 25th July are some of his worst buys.
The complete list of the 11 players he bought and loaned between 25th May and 25th July is Fabri, Marcelo Djaló, MLM, Cisse, Seri, Piazon, Schullre, Cavaleiro and Knockaert and Martell Taylor Crossdale.
Frankly, Cavaleiro is probably the best buy out of all of them but even he is far from a bargain.
I challenge anyone to find another player bought early in the summer window since 31st Dec 2016 (not i'm not including Stansfield as he is in development). And, I challenge everyone to convince me that any one of those were in anyway good value.
Eleven Early Buys and Eleven Mistakes, why would anyone want to repeat that. It seems to me Tony Khan get criticised for 100% of his buys, because a) those he buys early are always overpriced and b) those he buys well are always late. I hope he buys the players he needs for next years pre-season in the winter deadline day.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2021, 11:52:59 PMWooly, I was warming to you. But I think that unnecessary.Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 10:56:46 PMQuote from: sarnian on January 12, 2021, 08:08:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 04:23:23 AMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Who (out of the central defenders) do we think that we could have got in earlier in the window?
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have loaned in "Jochim Anderson" when he was a starter in the Olympique Lyon team for their first three games this season? Or our we suggesting Tony Khan should sign him after he realized he wasn't the Clubs Centre Back for the Season? Note, 24 hours after Anderson's third game on the bench for "Olympique Lyon", Tony Khan signed him.
Could we seriously have signed Anderson earlier? I doubt it.
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have signed "Tosin Adarabioyo" when he was given the sixth homegrown player spot in the Manchester City squad? Or, after he discovered that they will Manchester City will only need five homegrown player's this season? Note, ten days after Tosin wasn't named in the EFL Cup team, and five days after ManCity recruited Rúben Dias, which ended his dream of playing for ManCity, Tony Khan recruited him.
Could we seriously have signed Tosin earlier? I doubt it.
We could have recruited Kongolo earlier, but he couldn't have played earlier.
It amazes me when people criticise TK for leaving business until late in a window. Do they have any idea how the transfer system works. Nearly all deals are done late simply because players, clubs, and especially agents try and screw the best deals they can get.
It amazes me people think buying players early in the window is a good idea, when the eleven have Toby Khan has bought before the 25th July are some of his worst buys.
The complete list of the 11 players he bought and loaned between 25th May and 25th July is Fabri, Marcelo Djaló, MLM, Cisse, Seri, Piazon, Schullre, Cavaleiro and Knockaert and Martell Taylor Crossdale.
Frankly, Cavaleiro is probably the best buy out of all of them but even he is far from a bargain.
I challenge anyone to find another player bought early in the summer window since 31st Dec 2016 (not i'm not including Stansfield as he is in development). And, I challenge everyone to convince me that any one of those were in anyway good value.
Eleven Early Buys and Eleven Mistakes, why would anyone want to repeat that. It seems to me Tony Khan get criticised for 100% of his buys, because a) those he buys early are always overpriced and b) those he buys well are always late. I hope he buys the players he needs for next years pre-season in the winter deadline day.
I hope he gets replaced by a professional D of F who does not need to rely on narcissism to keep
his job.
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 13, 2021, 12:02:42 AM
I cant believe that Luka Jovic is about to sign for Frankfurt on loan...surely Mitro can tell him how fantastic life is in west london...
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 10:56:46 PMQuote from: sarnian on January 12, 2021, 08:08:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 04:23:23 AMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Who (out of the central defenders) do we think that we could have got in earlier in the window?
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have loaned in "Jochim Anderson" when he was a starter in the Olympique Lyon team for their first three games this season? Or our we suggesting Tony Khan should sign him after he realized he wasn't the Clubs Centre Back for the Season? Note, 24 hours after Anderson's third game on the bench for "Olympique Lyon", Tony Khan signed him.
Could we seriously have signed Anderson earlier? I doubt it.
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have signed "Tosin Adarabioyo" when he was given the sixth homegrown player spot in the Manchester City squad? Or, after he discovered that they will Manchester City will only need five homegrown player's this season? Note, ten days after Tosin wasn't named in the EFL Cup team, and five days after ManCity recruited Rúben Dias, which ended his dream of playing for ManCity, Tony Khan recruited him.
Could we seriously have signed Tosin earlier? I doubt it.
We could have recruited Kongolo earlier, but he couldn't have played earlier.
It amazes me when people criticise TK for leaving business until late in a window. Do they have any idea how the transfer system works. Nearly all deals are done late simply because players, clubs, and especially agents try and screw the best deals they can get.
It amazes me people think buying players early in the window is a good idea, when the eleven have Toby Khan has bought before the 25th July are some of his worst buys.
The complete list of the 11 players he bought and loaned between 25th May and 25th July is Fabri, Marcelo Djaló, MLM, Cisse, Seri, Piazon, Schullre, Cavaleiro and Knockaert and Martell Taylor Crossdale.
Frankly, Cavaleiro is probably the best buy out of all of them but even he is far from a bargain.
I challenge anyone to find another player bought early in the summer window since 31st Dec 2016 (not i'm not including Stansfield as he is in development). And, I challenge everyone to convince me that any one of those were in anyway good value.
Eleven Early Buys and Eleven Mistakes, why would anyone want to repeat that. It seems to me Tony Khan get criticised for 100% of his buys, because a) those he buys early are always overpriced and b) those he buys well are always late. I hope he buys the players he needs for next years pre-season in the winter deadline day.
Quote from: rebel on January 13, 2021, 09:15:01 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 10:56:46 PMQuote from: sarnian on January 12, 2021, 08:08:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 04:23:23 AMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Who (out of the central defenders) do we think that we could have got in earlier in the window?
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have loaned in "Jochim Anderson" when he was a starter in the Olympique Lyon team for their first three games this season? Or our we suggesting Tony Khan should sign him after he realized he wasn't the Clubs Centre Back for the Season? Note, 24 hours after Anderson's third game on the bench for "Olympique Lyon", Tony Khan signed him.
Could we seriously have signed Anderson earlier? I doubt it.
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have signed "Tosin Adarabioyo" when he was given the sixth homegrown player spot in the Manchester City squad? Or, after he discovered that they will Manchester City will only need five homegrown player's this season? Note, ten days after Tosin wasn't named in the EFL Cup team, and five days after ManCity recruited Rúben Dias, which ended his dream of playing for ManCity, Tony Khan recruited him.
Could we seriously have signed Tosin earlier? I doubt it.
We could have recruited Kongolo earlier, but he couldn't have played earlier.
It amazes me when people criticise TK for leaving business until late in a window. Do they have any idea how the transfer system works. Nearly all deals are done late simply because players, clubs, and especially agents try and screw the best deals they can get.
It amazes me people think buying players early in the window is a good idea, when the eleven have Toby Khan has bought before the 25th July are some of his worst buys.
The complete list of the 11 players he bought and loaned between 25th May and 25th July is Fabri, Marcelo Djaló, MLM, Cisse, Seri, Piazon, Schullre, Cavaleiro and Knockaert and Martell Taylor Crossdale.
Frankly, Cavaleiro is probably the best buy out of all of them but even he is far from a bargain.
I challenge anyone to find another player bought early in the summer window since 31st Dec 2016 (not i'm not including Stansfield as he is in development). And, I challenge everyone to convince me that any one of those were in anyway good value.
Eleven Early Buys and Eleven Mistakes, why would anyone want to repeat that. It seems to me Tony Khan get criticised for 100% of his buys, because a) those he buys early are always overpriced and b) those he buys well are always late. I hope he buys the players he needs for next years pre-season in the winter deadline day.
I question your criteria i.e. 'I challenge anyone to find another player bought early in the summer window since 31st Dec 2016', was it a case of looking at the transfers, then setting the 31st Dec 2016 as the date? Tom Cairney is a good example June 2015.
The Khan's have owned the club prior to 31st Dec 2016.
Quote from: jayffc on January 13, 2021, 09:56:42 AMQuote from: rebel on January 13, 2021, 09:15:01 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 10:56:46 PMQuote from: sarnian on January 12, 2021, 08:08:07 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 04:23:23 AMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 12, 2021, 12:08:53 AMQuote from: AnOldBrownie on January 11, 2021, 10:50:16 PMI agree. Tony got the right defenders in but if he'd done it a few weeks earlier we'd be outside the bottom 3!
Guess I don't care which players we get, as long as we bring them in ASAP.
They need familiarize themselves with our players and our attack. Hell...even Ryan Babel alone would be a good depth signing. And he already knows the club.
Who (out of the central defenders) do we think that we could have got in earlier in the window?
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have loaned in "Jochim Anderson" when he was a starter in the Olympique Lyon team for their first three games this season? Or our we suggesting Tony Khan should sign him after he realized he wasn't the Clubs Centre Back for the Season? Note, 24 hours after Anderson's third game on the bench for "Olympique Lyon", Tony Khan signed him.
Could we seriously have signed Anderson earlier? I doubt it.
Are we suggesting that Tony Khan should have signed "Tosin Adarabioyo" when he was given the sixth homegrown player spot in the Manchester City squad? Or, after he discovered that they will Manchester City will only need five homegrown player's this season? Note, ten days after Tosin wasn't named in the EFL Cup team, and five days after ManCity recruited Rúben Dias, which ended his dream of playing for ManCity, Tony Khan recruited him.
Could we seriously have signed Tosin earlier? I doubt it.
We could have recruited Kongolo earlier, but he couldn't have played earlier.
It amazes me when people criticise TK for leaving business until late in a window. Do they have any idea how the transfer system works. Nearly all deals are done late simply because players, clubs, and especially agents try and screw the best deals they can get.
It amazes me people think buying players early in the window is a good idea, when the eleven have Toby Khan has bought before the 25th July are some of his worst buys.
The complete list of the 11 players he bought and loaned between 25th May and 25th July is Fabri, Marcelo Djaló, MLM, Cisse, Seri, Piazon, Schullre, Cavaleiro and Knockaert and Martell Taylor Crossdale.
Frankly, Cavaleiro is probably the best buy out of all of them but even he is far from a bargain.
I challenge anyone to find another player bought early in the summer window since 31st Dec 2016 (not i'm not including Stansfield as he is in development). And, I challenge everyone to convince me that any one of those were in anyway good value.
Eleven Early Buys and Eleven Mistakes, why would anyone want to repeat that. It seems to me Tony Khan get criticised for 100% of his buys, because a) those he buys early are always overpriced and b) those he buys well are always late. I hope he buys the players he needs for next years pre-season in the winter deadline day.
I question your criteria i.e. 'I challenge anyone to find another player bought early in the summer window since 31st Dec 2016', was it a case of looking at the transfers, then setting the 31st Dec 2016 as the date? Tom Cairney is a good example June 2015.
The Khan's have owned the club prior to 31st Dec 2016.
Either way it seems people are suggesting the issue is TK, who actually took over his current role in charge of transfers, (as opposed to just advising as head of stats department) in February 2017 if I recall correctly.
Just in the interest of making sure were discussing the correct time period whichever way that skews things.
That said even saying...we got Cairney early...doesnt diminish the other persons argument completely- his point was buying early is no guarantee of a successful transfer...however as recently as this summer we also as mentioned, got Tete, Robinson, Lemina and Reed all in a way before the deadline too. All who have appeared to be great upgrades and performed well. We dont do all our business late in the game, but in the instance of Joachim for example, we had wanted him all summer, and were told he was unlikely to be available...then found out late that he then was available for loan...and we signed him. And thank god we did.
We hadnt in that time been twiddling our thumbs, we actually tried to sign other CBs only for them to get Covid. Fortunately this meant come deadline day we ended up signing 2 of the best CBs I've seen play for us since Hangeland and Hughes.
So I'm happy wait, understanding that's how it is alot of the time for a club in Fulhams position, if it's with a view to signing the people we really want
Quote from: The Cravenette on January 13, 2021, 10:35:22 AM
Still no rumours then.......?
Quote from: sarnian on January 13, 2021, 10:27:51 AM
Identifying players is one thing, getting them to sign is another. As explained to me by an ex agent it's logical that most transfers are last few day deals.
All those people moaning should put themselves in a player, agent or existing clubs shoes. If your the likes of Messi, Kane, Stirling etc you can pick which top club you want to go to. If on the other hand you are an good mid / upper table Premiership player who wants to move your selection of where you want to go gets more limited.
Say on day one of a transfer window a Fulham, Newcastle, Brighton come in for you what do you and your agent do. They are obviously going to wait until later in the window to see if better offers come in from maybe a Leicester or Everton etc. If it was me I'd wait and look for the best deal I could get at the club I thought was best. It's not rocket science it's human nature.
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Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 13, 2021, 11:22:55 AM
Boulaye Dia release clause only 13m, ..just sayin
Quote from: rebel on January 13, 2021, 11:25:15 AMQuote from: sarnian on January 13, 2021, 10:27:51 AM
Identifying players is one thing, getting them to sign is another. As explained to me by an ex agent it's logical that most transfers are last few day deals.
All those people moaning should put themselves in a player, agent or existing clubs shoes. If your the likes of Messi, Kane, Stirling etc you can pick which top club you want to go to. If on the other hand you are an good mid / upper table Premiership player who wants to move your selection of where you want to go gets more limited.
Say on day one of a transfer window a Fulham, Newcastle, Brighton come in for you what do you and your agent do. They are obviously going to wait until later in the window to see if better offers come in from maybe a Leicester or Everton etc. If it was me I'd wait and look for the best deal I could get at the club I thought was best. It's not rocket science it's human nature.
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The need for a striker has been known for a long time, since we were last in the Prem. So the club should be doing whatever it takes, they will have 3 / 4 that are on that list, so if they can't get number one target, then work through the list.
Quote from: I Ronic on January 13, 2021, 12:59:55 PM
Quick question. Would any signing from abroad not have to self-isolate on arrival to the UK?
Quote from: jayffc on January 13, 2021, 01:10:33 PMQuote from: I Ronic on January 13, 2021, 12:59:55 PM
Quick question. Would any signing from abroad not have to self-isolate on arrival to the UK?
Yes presumably...did they reduce it to 5 days yet? Or is it still 2 weeks?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 12, 2021, 10:56:46 PM
It amazes me people think buying players early in the window is a good idea, when the eleven have Toby Khan has bought before the 25th July are some of his worst buys.
The complete list of the 11 players he bought and loaned between 25th May and 25th July is Fabri, Marcelo Djaló, MLM, Cisse, Seri, Piazon, Schullre, Cavaleiro and Knockaert and Martell Taylor Crossdale.
Frankly, Cavaleiro is probably the best buy out of all of them but even he is far from a bargain.
I challenge anyone to find another player bought early in the summer window since 31st Dec 2016 (not i'm not including Stansfield as he is in development). And, I challenge everyone to convince me that any one of those were in anyway good value.
Eleven Early Buys and Eleven Mistakes, why would anyone want to repeat that. It seems to me Tony Khan get criticised for 100% of his buys, because a) those he buys early are always overpriced and b) those he buys well are always late. I hope he buys the players he needs for next years pre-season in the winter deadline day.
Quote from: MickTheBeard on January 13, 2021, 04:29:12 PMno dof on the planet would have sold a 27 year old cairney who had just been voted best player in the championship and scored the winning goal at Wembley to get Fulham promoted.
People forget cairney,Mac Donald,steadman(who failed,but we got a million loan and sold him for a million,our American captain from Bolton who is know dropped due to age league and new recruits.Those 4 cost aprox cairney 3m Mac Donald 1.3m ream1.4 steadman 2m.If we had a full time dof they should have been sold for a profit after 3years and replaced,instead they have been given pay rises and now they are too old and know one wants them obviously the person in question doesn't run his fathers main buisness he would be skint.In Victorian times if the owner had 3sons the clever one would take over the firm when ready,the next one as not so bright would join the army as a officer the third one would join the church .I wonder where that would put tony.
Quote from: jayffc on January 13, 2021, 01:09:17 PMQuote from: rebel on January 13, 2021, 11:25:15 AMQuote from: sarnian on January 13, 2021, 10:27:51 AM
Identifying players is one thing, getting them to sign is another. As explained to me by an ex agent it's logical that most transfers are last few day deals.
All those people moaning should put themselves in a player, agent or existing clubs shoes. If your the likes of Messi, Kane, Stirling etc you can pick which top club you want to go to. If on the other hand you are an good mid / upper table Premiership player who wants to move your selection of where you want to go gets more limited.
Say on day one of a transfer window a Fulham, Newcastle, Brighton come in for you what do you and your agent do. They are obviously going to wait until later in the window to see if better offers come in from maybe a Leicester or Everton etc. If it was me I'd wait and look for the best deal I could get at the club I thought was best. It's not rocket science it's human nature.
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The need for a striker has been known for a long time, since we were last in the Prem. So the club should be doing whatever it takes, they will have 3 / 4 that are on that list, so if they can't get number one target, then work through the list.
And what if they get to number 5+ on that list and buy him.
And then last couple days if the window it turns out number 1 or 2 is now available due to the domino effect of transfers....
Now for the sake of 2 weeks weve got a player we wanted less , potentially at an inflated price, when we could have got a decent deal in our number 1 target. Never mind that as we negotiated a good price were now able to pick up that signing...plus another cheaper option that's become available because of the room weve been able to manoeuvre with our budget.
This has happened to our advantage before. Yes it could not happen as easily,but it has worked out for us before.
Just look at Mitro, that season we coulda signed any number of other players....last day of the window he becomes available due to a break down in his preferred move....bam we sign one of the most influential players that has played a huge part in this club being where it is still and you were there jumping up and down singing Mitros on Fire at Wembley...had we jumped the gun early that window with lesser target (and it was January I might add) we may we have never had those memories and may not even be back in the premiership.
There is literally no reason for the club to dilly dally for no reason and I have zero evidence to suggest thats what they do all the time during the first part of the windows...they say as much in every interview on it ever...there are always negotiations going on but they often dont get tied up till later.
That's not just because they want it like that it's just they are not the only moving piece in at all
We all expected more from Mitro than hes shown the last season and a half so it wasnt as desperate as were making out in hindsight...most thought we needed a good second option in the summer, now we all appreciate we actually need a new starter.
Anyway, gotta stop getting drawn in on all this every window. Its explained well enough as above from other posters every time
Have a good un everyone and heres hoping come the last day of the window were all excited about our prospects
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2021, 04:37:33 PM
When I saw Rui Fonti play away at Ipswich,I thought we had a player there..But like lots of cases it went pear shaped..Where is he now?
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 13, 2021, 06:03:32 PM👍Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2021, 04:37:33 PM
When I saw Rui Fonti play away at Ipswich,I thought we had a player there..But like lots of cases it went pear shaped..Where is he now?
He scored 6 for Braga last season
Quote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 07:35:21 AM
Just consider the following. Cavaliero is a new signing and makes his debut with that performance last night. Everyone would be raving about us finding a quick skillful forward whofits the bill!!
The question is if we can find anyone better than what we already have,that will improve the team. If Cavaleiro keeps up that level of performance and RLC continues the progress he showed last night its going to be hard to get into that team.
Quote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 07:35:21 AM
Just consider the following. Cavaliero is a new signing and makes his debut with that performance last night. Everyone would be raving about us finding a quick skillful forward whofits the bill!!
The question is if we can find anyone better than what we already have,that will improve the team. If Cavaleiro keeps up that level of performance and RLC continues the progress he showed last night its going to be hard to get into that team.
Quote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 07:35:21 AM
Just consider the following. Cavaliero is a new signing and makes his debut with that performance last night. Everyone would be raving about us finding a quick skillful forward whofits the bill!!
The question is if we can find anyone better than what we already have,that will improve the team. If Cavaleiro keeps up that level of performance and RLC continues the progress he showed last night its going to be hard to get into that team.
Quote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
My point was ,can we find someone better than what we have on a low budget or loan deal? doubtful without spending big money.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 10:34:11 AMAlso, do they still need to score highly on Khan juniors Laptop matrix programme??Quote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
My point was ,can we find someone better than what we have on a low budget or loan deal? doubtful without spending big money.
Not necessarily. Tosin, £1.5m, Anderson, £2m, Anderson, Areola, Lookman, Lemina and RLC all on loans that I don't think have broken the bank for us too badly. Players and deals are out there. Just finding the right player at the right price is the tricky bit.....
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 10:34:11 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
My point was ,can we find someone better than what we have on a low budget or loan deal? doubtful without spending big money.
Not necessarily. Tosin, £1.5m, Anderson, £2m, Anderson, Areola, Lookman, Lemina and RLC all on loans that I don't think have broken the bank for us too badly. Players and deals are out there. Just finding the right player at the right price is the tricky bit.....
Quote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:27:03 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 10:34:11 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
My point was ,can we find someone better than what we have on a low budget or loan deal? doubtful without spending big money.
Not necessarily. Tosin, £1.5m, Anderson, £2m, Anderson, Areola, Lookman, Lemina and RLC all on loans that I don't think have broken the bank for us too badly. Players and deals are out there. Just finding the right player at the right price is the tricky bit.....
Think Tosin was about £9m, Lemina seems to have fitness issues preventing him from consistently starting, and the others would all cost £20m-£30m to buy. I'm inclined to agree with Colin...
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 11:31:58 AMQuote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:27:03 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 10:34:11 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
My point was ,can we find someone better than what we have on a low budget or loan deal? doubtful without spending big money.
Not necessarily. Tosin, £1.5m, Anderson, £2m, Anderson, Areola, Lookman, Lemina and RLC all on loans that I don't think have broken the bank for us too badly. Players and deals are out there. Just finding the right player at the right price is the tricky bit.....
Think Tosin was about £9m, Lemina seems to have fitness issues preventing him from consistently starting, and the others would all cost £20m-£30m to buy. I'm inclined to agree with Colin...
Unless I'm missing something, Tosin was a £1.5m fee to Man City. All the others are loans so a transfer fee is irrelevant as we can still loan and add quality which was my point. We don't need to break the bank. I don't think suggesting Lemina has fitness issues is entirely fair as he got a knock and once back, played then got Covid. We could break the bank, but I don't think that's necessarily our only option.
Quote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:37:51 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 11:31:58 AMQuote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:27:03 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 10:34:11 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
My point was ,can we find someone better than what we have on a low budget or loan deal? doubtful without spending big money.
Not necessarily. Tosin, £1.5m, Anderson, £2m, Anderson, Areola, Lookman, Lemina and RLC all on loans that I don't think have broken the bank for us too badly. Players and deals are out there. Just finding the right player at the right price is the tricky bit.....
Think Tosin was about £9m, Lemina seems to have fitness issues preventing him from consistently starting, and the others would all cost £20m-£30m to buy. I'm inclined to agree with Colin...
Unless I'm missing something, Tosin was a £1.5m fee to Man City. All the others are loans so a transfer fee is irrelevant as we can still loan and add quality which was my point. We don't need to break the bank. I don't think suggesting Lemina has fitness issues is entirely fair as he got a knock and once back, played then got Covid. We could break the bank, but I don't think that's necessarily our only option.
Tosin was reported to be £1.5m initially but £8-9m with add-ons which I'm guessing will materialise. Lemina has had 3 injuries in the 4 months we've had him - yes that's including Covid but I don't think its a coincidence he was cheap. And even if Tosin and Lemina were bargains the average fee to buy the players you mention would still be about £20m. So yes it's possible to get a player for less but clearly not likely, and not something you can reasonably expect or rely on. And yes another loan is theoretically an option but do we have the free slot?
Quote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:37:51 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 11:31:58 AMQuote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:27:03 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 10:34:11 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
My point was ,can we find someone better than what we have on a low budget or loan deal? doubtful without spending big money.
Not necessarily. Tosin, £1.5m, Anderson, £2m, Anderson, Areola, Lookman, Lemina and RLC all on loans that I don't think have broken the bank for us too badly. Players and deals are out there. Just finding the right player at the right price is the tricky bit.....
Think Tosin was about £9m, Lemina seems to have fitness issues preventing him from consistently starting, and the others would all cost £20m-£30m to buy. I'm inclined to agree with Colin...
Unless I'm missing something, Tosin was a £1.5m fee to Man City. All the others are loans so a transfer fee is irrelevant as we can still loan and add quality which was my point. We don't need to break the bank. I don't think suggesting Lemina has fitness issues is entirely fair as he got a knock and once back, played then got Covid. We could break the bank, but I don't think that's necessarily our only option.
Tosin was reported to be £1.5m initially but £8-9m with add-ons which I'm guessing will materialise. Lemina has had 3 injuries in the 4 months we've had him - yes that's including Covid but I don't think its a coincidence he was cheap. And even if Tosin and Lemina were bargains the average fee to buy the players you mention would still be about £20m. So yes it's possible to get a player for less but clearly not likely, and not something you can reasonably expect or rely on. And yes another loan is theoretically an option but do we have the free slot?
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 14, 2021, 12:28:09 PM
Apparently Man U want to sell Andreas Pereira - might be a good about for a RW who can also play as a CAM if needed, he's certainly got a bit of creative flair about him
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 14, 2021, 12:32:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 14, 2021, 12:28:09 PM
Apparently Man U want to sell Andreas Pereira - might be a good about for a RW who can also play as a CAM if needed, he's certainly got a bit of creative flair about him
I'd prefer Lingard over Pereira and I don't particularly want Lingard.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 14, 2021, 12:32:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 14, 2021, 12:28:09 PM
Apparently Man U want to sell Andreas Pereira - might be a good about for a RW who can also play as a CAM if needed, he's certainly got a bit of creative flair about him
I'd prefer Lingard over Pereira and I don't particularly want Lingard.
Quote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 07:35:21 AM
Just consider the following. Cavaliero is a new signing and makes his debut with that performance last night. Everyone would be raving about us finding a quick skillful forward whofits the bill!!
The question is if we can find anyone better than what we already have,that will improve the team. If Cavaleiro keeps up that level of performance and RLC continues the progress he showed last night its going to be hard to get into that team.
Quote from: JimOG on January 14, 2021, 01:47:16 PMAgree 100%.Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 14, 2021, 12:32:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 14, 2021, 12:28:09 PM
Apparently Man U want to sell Andreas Pereira - might be a good about for a RW who can also play as a CAM if needed, he's certainly got a bit of creative flair about him
I'd prefer Lingard over Pereira and I don't particularly want Lingard.
We need to concentrate resources on that striker position. Get that right & I believe we will be higher on the table than Newcastle
Quote from: Bronaldinho on January 14, 2021, 02:00:40 PMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 07:35:21 AM
Just consider the following. Cavaliero is a new signing and makes his debut with that performance last night. Everyone would be raving about us finding a quick skillful forward whofits the bill!!
The question is if we can find anyone better than what we already have,that will improve the team. If Cavaleiro keeps up that level of performance and RLC continues the progress he showed last night its going to be hard to get into that team.
Cav has massively improved since playing as a striker. Having to grow into the role, of course.
But you can see his confidence is rising and he's playing the role more naturally.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 12:10:54 PMQuote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:37:51 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 11:31:58 AMQuote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:27:03 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 10:34:11 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
My point was ,can we find someone better than what we have on a low budget or loan deal? doubtful without spending big money.
Not necessarily. Tosin, £1.5m, Anderson, £2m, Anderson, Areola, Lookman, Lemina and RLC all on loans that I don't think have broken the bank for us too badly. Players and deals are out there. Just finding the right player at the right price is the tricky bit.....
Think Tosin was about £9m, Lemina seems to have fitness issues preventing him from consistently starting, and the others would all cost £20m-£30m to buy. I'm inclined to agree with Colin...
Unless I'm missing something, Tosin was a £1.5m fee to Man City. All the others are loans so a transfer fee is irrelevant as we can still loan and add quality which was my point. We don't need to break the bank. I don't think suggesting Lemina has fitness issues is entirely fair as he got a knock and once back, played then got Covid. We could break the bank, but I don't think that's necessarily our only option.
Tosin was reported to be £1.5m initially but £8-9m with add-ons which I'm guessing will materialise. Lemina has had 3 injuries in the 4 months we've had him - yes that's including Covid but I don't think its a coincidence he was cheap. And even if Tosin and Lemina were bargains the average fee to buy the players you mention would still be about £20m. So yes it's possible to get a player for less but clearly not likely, and not something you can reasonably expect or rely on. And yes another loan is theoretically an option but do we have the free slot?
I feel like theres some straws and clutching here if we using unmaterialised add ons to say how much a player may or may not be. Lemina even with lack of playing time has added points and quality to the squad at a small fee so he's definitely a bargain. Anderson, Tosin and Robinson also all bargains. They can be found and I stick by that point.
Quote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 02:47:03 PMDo I sense a touch of sarcasm here STATTO?? 🤪⚽️⚽️Quote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 12:10:54 PMQuote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:37:51 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 11:31:58 AMQuote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:27:03 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 10:34:11 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
My point was ,can we find someone better than what we have on a low budget or loan deal? doubtful without spending big money.
Not necessarily. Tosin, £1.5m, Anderson, £2m, Anderson, Areola, Lookman, Lemina and RLC all on loans that I don't think have broken the bank for us too badly. Players and deals are out there. Just finding the right player at the right price is the tricky bit.....
Think Tosin was about £9m, Lemina seems to have fitness issues preventing him from consistently starting, and the others would all cost £20m-£30m to buy. I'm inclined to agree with Colin...
Unless I'm missing something, Tosin was a £1.5m fee to Man City. All the others are loans so a transfer fee is irrelevant as we can still loan and add quality which was my point. We don't need to break the bank. I don't think suggesting Lemina has fitness issues is entirely fair as he got a knock and once back, played then got Covid. We could break the bank, but I don't think that's necessarily our only option.
Tosin was reported to be £1.5m initially but £8-9m with add-ons which I'm guessing will materialise. Lemina has had 3 injuries in the 4 months we've had him - yes that's including Covid but I don't think its a coincidence he was cheap. And even if Tosin and Lemina were bargains the average fee to buy the players you mention would still be about £20m. So yes it's possible to get a player for less but clearly not likely, and not something you can reasonably expect or rely on. And yes another loan is theoretically an option but do we have the free slot?
I feel like theres some straws and clutching here if we using unmaterialised add ons to say how much a player may or may not be. Lemina even with lack of playing time has added points and quality to the squad at a small fee so he's definitely a bargain. Anderson, Tosin and Robinson also all bargains. They can be found and I stick by that point.
Yep I have to hold my hands up there and admit i was clutching at straws just because I have some personal interest in proving you wrong. The various reports saying the deal for Tosin was worth £8m were wrong, and actually Man City gave us a proven Championship player for about 20% of his market value purely because they were feeling generous. Similarly Southampton let us have Lemina for a third of what they paid Juventus for him because they just don't care about money. We could probably buy the other three you mention, Areola, Lookman and Anderson, for £5m each as well. This whole idea that a good PL forward costs £20-30m is a conspiracy and deals like West Ham paying that for Benrahma are just sham transfers designed to keep up the illusion. In a couple of weeks we'll announce the signing of Salah from Liverpool for £500 and a box of tracksuits. COYW!!!
Quote from: JimOG on January 14, 2021, 01:47:16 PMA Bobby Zamora type player would be handy.Not that prolific but can add to the goal tally while bringing others into play also.Could Mitro do it ?He's a pretty good footballer not sure he would relish that role.Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 14, 2021, 12:32:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 14, 2021, 12:28:09 PM
Apparently Man U want to sell Andreas Pereira - might be a good about for a RW who can also play as a CAM if needed, he's certainly got a bit of creative flair about him
I'd prefer Lingard over Pereira and I don't particularly want Lingard.
We need to concentrate resources on that striker position. Get that right & I believe we will be higher on the table than Newcastle
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 14, 2021, 12:28:09 PM
Apparently Man U want to sell Andreas Pereira - might be a good about for a RW who can also play as a CAM if needed, he's certainly got a bit of creative flair about him
Quote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 02:47:03 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 12:10:54 PMQuote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:37:51 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 11:31:58 AMQuote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 11:27:03 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 10:34:11 AMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
My point was ,can we find someone better than what we have on a low budget or loan deal? doubtful without spending big money.
Not necessarily. Tosin, £1.5m, Anderson, £2m, Anderson, Areola, Lookman, Lemina and RLC all on loans that I don't think have broken the bank for us too badly. Players and deals are out there. Just finding the right player at the right price is the tricky bit.....
Think Tosin was about £9m, Lemina seems to have fitness issues preventing him from consistently starting, and the others would all cost £20m-£30m to buy. I'm inclined to agree with Colin...
Unless I'm missing something, Tosin was a £1.5m fee to Man City. All the others are loans so a transfer fee is irrelevant as we can still loan and add quality which was my point. We don't need to break the bank. I don't think suggesting Lemina has fitness issues is entirely fair as he got a knock and once back, played then got Covid. We could break the bank, but I don't think that's necessarily our only option.
Tosin was reported to be £1.5m initially but £8-9m with add-ons which I'm guessing will materialise. Lemina has had 3 injuries in the 4 months we've had him - yes that's including Covid but I don't think its a coincidence he was cheap. And even if Tosin and Lemina were bargains the average fee to buy the players you mention would still be about £20m. So yes it's possible to get a player for less but clearly not likely, and not something you can reasonably expect or rely on. And yes another loan is theoretically an option but do we have the free slot?
I feel like theres some straws and clutching here if we using unmaterialised add ons to say how much a player may or may not be. Lemina even with lack of playing time has added points and quality to the squad at a small fee so he's definitely a bargain. Anderson, Tosin and Robinson also all bargains. They can be found and I stick by that point.
Yep I have to hold my hands up there and admit i was clutching at straws just because I have some personal interest in proving you wrong. The various reports saying the deal for Tosin was worth £8m were wrong, and actually Man City gave us a proven Championship player for about 20% of his market value purely because they were feeling generous. Similarly Southampton let us have Lemina for a third of what they paid Juventus for him because they just don't care about money. We could probably buy the other three you mention, Areola, Lookman and Anderson, for £5m each as well. This whole idea that a good PL forward costs £20-30m is a conspiracy and deals like West Ham paying that for Benrahma are just sham transfers designed to keep up the illusion. In a couple of weeks we'll announce the signing of Salah from Liverpool for £500 and a box of tracksuits. COYW!!!
Quote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 06:50:09 PM
To get someone better than cavaleiro,lookman ,Reid and RLC is going to cost alot of dosh !
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 14, 2021, 04:50:24 PMQuote from: JimOG on January 14, 2021, 01:47:16 PMA Bobby Zamora type player would be handy.Not that prolific but can add to the goal tally while bringing others into play also.Could Mitro do it ?He's a pretty good footballer not sure he would relish that role.Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 14, 2021, 12:32:12 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 14, 2021, 12:28:09 PM
Apparently Man U want to sell Andreas Pereira - might be a good about for a RW who can also play as a CAM if needed, he's certainly got a bit of creative flair about him
I'd prefer Lingard over Pereira and I don't particularly want Lingard.
We need to concentrate resources on that striker position. Get that right & I believe we will be higher on the table than Newcastle
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 07:12:29 PMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 06:50:09 PM
To get someone better than cavaleiro,lookman ,Reid and RLC is going to cost alot of dosh !
Potentially, but we could also find a gem in the market like the examples I raised previously.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 14, 2021, 07:22:53 PM
When we got Babel two years ago no one thought he would come good for us. Hopefully we can find another gem.
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Quote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 07:30:27 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 07:12:29 PMQuote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 06:50:09 PM
To get someone better than cavaleiro,lookman ,Reid and RLC is going to cost alot of dosh !
Potentially, but we could also find a gem in the market like the examples I raised previously.
You didn't mention examples (plural)
Being generous, Tosin is one example, although £8m so arguably not that cheap anyway. Plus that's for a defender, which is generally a cheaper position to fill than CF.
Lookman, Anderson and Areola are loans. We can't have any more loans unless we're going to drop one of the others from the matchday squad every week.
Lemina is also a loan, and even to the extent his option price is low, it's because he's generally only available half the time, which isn't really a solution.
Maybe you can think of some other quality, reliable, fit forwards who we can get on a permanent transfer for a very low fee but I suspect it will involve "some straws and clutching"
Quote from: colinwhite on January 14, 2021, 06:50:09 PM
To get someone better than cavaleiro,lookman ,Reid and RLC is going to cost alot of dosh !
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 07:41:40 PM
Looking at football index and transfermarket.com, both say Tosin was signed for £1.49m. Transfermarket also suggests his worth is still under 5m and never pushed past 4.5m when at City. So I'd suggest your valuation, even pushing up with unmaterialised bonuses is inaccurate. Happy to agree to disagree here if you still maintain he's circa 5m as I don't know your sources for it but I find mine fairly accurate.
We could easily juggle the additional loan or even buy out say Lemina if the price of £5m (i've seen it as high as £10m also) is accurate and free up a slot like we have history of doing. I'd be over the moon if we took that option.
We're currently obviously poor for depth in that position and some of the players mentioned by Colin about who we'd need to pay over the odds for, were generally not strikers. Wingers or false no.9's. So it's essential we find a fit, hard working striker. It's obviously not a simple task and our options might well be limited but we've pulled off transfers like this before so I wouldn't be surprised if a Kamara esque from the French league comes in. I do think it'll be from a foreign league unless, we are prepared to overspend as you and Colin have pointed out. I don't think we will however hence me saying, there's probably a gem in the rough out there. I don't know who that is, its not my job to, but we also never realised how many decent CB's were available when many speculated there were none....then Tosin and Anderson came in at decent prices so we'll just have to see.
Quote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 07:51:03 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 07:41:40 PM
Looking at football index and transfermarket.com, both say Tosin was signed for £1.49m. Transfermarket also suggests his worth is still under 5m and never pushed past 4.5m when at City. So I'd suggest your valuation, even pushing up with unmaterialised bonuses is inaccurate. Happy to agree to disagree here if you still maintain he's circa 5m as I don't know your sources for it but I find mine fairly accurate.
We could easily juggle the additional loan or even buy out say Lemina if the price of £5m (i've seen it as high as £10m also) is accurate and free up a slot like we have history of doing. I'd be over the moon if we took that option.
We're currently obviously poor for depth in that position and some of the players mentioned by Colin about who we'd need to pay over the odds for, were generally not strikers. Wingers or false no.9's. So it's essential we find a fit, hard working striker. It's obviously not a simple task and our options might well be limited but we've pulled off transfers like this before so I wouldn't be surprised if a Kamara esque from the French league comes in. I do think it'll be from a foreign league unless, we are prepared to overspend as you and Colin have pointed out. I don't think we will however hence me saying, there's probably a gem in the rough out there. I don't know who that is, its not my job to, but we also never realised how many decent CB's were available when many speculated there were none....then Tosin and Anderson came in at decent prices so we'll just have to see.
I generally find transfermarkt accurate regarding fees paid but I think in relation to Tosin, it's clear from press reports and common sense that we didn't get him for £1.5m and they're just quoting the upfront component of a structured deal.
Transfermarkt is *not* accurate regarding player valuations. It has Anderson and Lookman down as £12m and £9m, for example, which is about a third of what theyd probably cost. I don't know why it even bothers with that feature actually.
I don't disagree with the rest of your post FWIW but it would have been better if you'd said that up the thread rather than malkin condescending comments about straws and clutching.
Quote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 07:51:03 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 07:41:40 PM
Looking at football index and transfermarket.com, both say Tosin was signed for £1.49m. Transfermarket also suggests his worth is still under 5m and never pushed past 4.5m when at City. So I'd suggest your valuation, even pushing up with unmaterialised bonuses is inaccurate. Happy to agree to disagree here if you still maintain he's circa 5m as I don't know your sources for it but I find mine fairly accurate.
We could easily juggle the additional loan or even buy out say Lemina if the price of £5m (i've seen it as high as £10m also) is accurate and free up a slot like we have history of doing. I'd be over the moon if we took that option.
We're currently obviously poor for depth in that position and some of the players mentioned by Colin about who we'd need to pay over the odds for, were generally not strikers. Wingers or false no.9's. So it's essential we find a fit, hard working striker. It's obviously not a simple task and our options might well be limited but we've pulled off transfers like this before so I wouldn't be surprised if a Kamara esque from the French league comes in. I do think it'll be from a foreign league unless, we are prepared to overspend as you and Colin have pointed out. I don't think we will however hence me saying, there's probably a gem in the rough out there. I don't know who that is, its not my job to, but we also never realised how many decent CB's were available when many speculated there were none....then Tosin and Anderson came in at decent prices so we'll just have to see.
I generally find transfermarkt accurate regarding fees paid but I think in relation to Tosin, it's clear from press reports and common sense that we didn't get him for £1.5m and they're just quoting the upfront component of a structured deal.
Transfermarkt is *not* accurate regarding player valuations. It has Anderson and Lookman down as £12m and £9m, for example, which is about a third of what theyd probably cost. I don't know why it even bothers with that feature actually.
I don't disagree with the rest of your post FWIW but it would have been better if you'd said that up the thread rather than malkin condescending comments about straws and clutching.
Quote from: Jim© on January 14, 2021, 08:03:30 PM
Surely you don't think Anderson and lookman would cost £36m and £27m respectively? I'd love to be in on the negotiation: "so you bought them for £25m and £20m respectively, now you think they've gone up in value by a third despite your manager choosing not to play them?!
Quote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 08:20:26 PMQuote from: Jim© on January 14, 2021, 08:03:30 PM
Surely you don't think Anderson and lookman would cost £36m and £27m respectively? I'd love to be in on the negotiation: "so you bought them for £25m and £20m respectively, now you think they've gone up in value by a third despite your manager choosing not to play them?!
I certainly don't think the two of them having great seasons in the most difficult league in the world will cause their value to drop. I'm not sure anyone can say with any certainty what they'll cost. Ironically on another thread today another poster gsd said Areola, Anderson and Lookman will cost £100m and I've argued that I don't think it will be that much. But I'd certainly expect Anderson and Lookman, as a pair, to cost £40-60m rather than £21m, yes. If you think you can get Lookman for £9m then you should get on the blower to TK.
Quote from: filham on January 14, 2021, 08:40:01 PM
The real money value of anything, including footballers is simply what someone is prepared to pay.
So we have to really widen our search and find that gem that no one else has noticed. time we unearthed another Ivor.
Quote from: Asotosyios on January 14, 2021, 09:48:08 PM
From SkySports Transfer Centre:
BENFICA MAY TURN TO SERI
Benfica will consider a move for Fulham's Jean Michael Seri if they fail to agree a deal for top target William Carvalho.
The Portuguese club are in talks with Real Betis to bring Carvalho back to Portugal, but Seri is another player they like in his position and is said to be a backup option.
Seri has been in talks over a move to Galatasaray, where he spent the 2019-20 season on loan, but the clubs have reached an obstacle in negotiations.
Discussions have been over a loan with an option to buy, but Fulham are said to want a loan fee and Galatasaray are reluctant to pay one.
Seri, who was not named in Fulham's squad for the Premier League season, has also been hoping for a club in France to come in for him.
But the ongoing financial problems in French football have made it difficult for a club to sign him.
Quote from: Statto on January 14, 2021, 07:51:03 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 14, 2021, 07:41:40 PM
Looking at football index and transfermarket.com, both say Tosin was signed for £1.49m. Transfermarket also suggests his worth is still under 5m and never pushed past 4.5m when at City. So I'd suggest your valuation, even pushing up with unmaterialised bonuses is inaccurate. Happy to agree to disagree here if you still maintain he's circa 5m as I don't know your sources for it but I find mine fairly accurate.
We could easily juggle the additional loan or even buy out say Lemina if the price of £5m (i've seen it as high as £10m also) is accurate and free up a slot like we have history of doing. I'd be over the moon if we took that option.
We're currently obviously poor for depth in that position and some of the players mentioned by Colin about who we'd need to pay over the odds for, were generally not strikers. Wingers or false no.9's. So it's essential we find a fit, hard working striker. It's obviously not a simple task and our options might well be limited but we've pulled off transfers like this before so I wouldn't be surprised if a Kamara esque from the French league comes in. I do think it'll be from a foreign league unless, we are prepared to overspend as you and Colin have pointed out. I don't think we will however hence me saying, there's probably a gem in the rough out there. I don't know who that is, its not my job to, but we also never realised how many decent CB's were available when many speculated there were none....then Tosin and Anderson came in at decent prices so we'll just have to see.
I generally find transfermarkt accurate regarding fees paid but I think in relation to Tosin, it's clear from press reports and common sense that we didn't get him for £1.5m and they're just quoting the upfront component of a structured deal.
Transfermarkt is *not* accurate regarding player valuations. It has Anderson and Lookman down as £12m and £9m, for example, which is about a third of what theyd probably cost. I don't know why it even bothers with that feature actually.
I don't disagree with the rest of your post FWIW but it would have been better if you'd said that up the thread rather than malkin condescending comments about straws and clutching.
Quote from: jayffc on January 14, 2021, 11:02:02 PMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 14, 2021, 09:48:08 PM
From SkySports Transfer Centre:
BENFICA MAY TURN TO SERI
Benfica will consider a move for Fulham's Jean Michael Seri if they fail to agree a deal for top target William Carvalho.
The Portuguese club are in talks with Real Betis to bring Carvalho back to Portugal, but Seri is another player they like in his position and is said to be a backup option.
Seri has been in talks over a move to Galatasaray, where he spent the 2019-20 season on loan, but the clubs have reached an obstacle in negotiations.
Discussions have been over a loan with an option to buy, but Fulham are said to want a loan fee and Galatasaray are reluctant to pay one.
Seri, who was not named in Fulham's squad for the Premier League season, has also been hoping for a club in France to come in for him.
But the ongoing financial problems in French football have made it difficult for a club to sign him.
Presumably if he goes to a french team were less likely to get a good fee for him if all this talk of no money there is true...soooo come on Benfica- show us the Money!
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 14, 2021, 11:27:28 PMQuote from: jayffc on January 14, 2021, 11:02:02 PMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 14, 2021, 09:48:08 PM
From SkySports Transfer Centre:
BENFICA MAY TURN TO SERI
Benfica will consider a move for Fulham's Jean Michael Seri if they fail to agree a deal for top target William Carvalho.
The Portuguese club are in talks with Real Betis to bring Carvalho back to Portugal, but Seri is another player they like in his position and is said to be a backup option.
Seri has been in talks over a move to Galatasaray, where he spent the 2019-20 season on loan, but the clubs have reached an obstacle in negotiations.
Discussions have been over a loan with an option to buy, but Fulham are said to want a loan fee and Galatasaray are reluctant to pay one.
Seri, who was not named in Fulham's squad for the Premier League season, has also been hoping for a club in France to come in for him.
But the ongoing financial problems in French football have made it difficult for a club to sign him.
Presumably if he goes to a french team were less likely to get a good fee for him if all this talk of no money there is true...soooo come on Benfica- show us the Money!
If the french league is so skint, should we not be trying to pick up some bargains?
Quote from: Bronaldinho on January 14, 2021, 01:59:29 PM
No to both! Think both of them are over-rated and how they are at United still is beyond me.
We need a forward. My wishlist:
Onauchu - 6'7, mobile, proven scorer in Europe. Would give us the option with the ball in the box and happy to stretch defensives.
Adam Armstrong - if we want to go with a more poacher type forward.
Onuachu looks like a class act (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VaMGd2lgs5A) but with 19 goals in 19 games this season he's sadly, hardly under the radar. Loads of clubs must be looking at him and when's the last time Fulham signed an obvious target aside from Mitro. Would love him at FFC but can't imagine he'd be affordable, nor up for joining a club in a relegation fight
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 14, 2021, 11:26:34 PM
The media reports are that Tosin's transfer fee is very low around £1.5m
Quote from: Statto on January 15, 2021, 01:59:29 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 14, 2021, 11:26:34 PM
The media reports are that Tosin's transfer fee is very low around £1.5m
Here are media reports that it was £8m
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12850666/fulham-adarabioyo-transfer-man-city/
https://www.90min.com/posts/fulham-sign-tosin-adarabioyo-man-city-permanent-deal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8805723/Fulham-pushing-sign-Chelsea-midfielder-Ruben-Loftus-Cheek-loan.html
Ultimately we'll never know and people can believe what they want. What's irrefutable is that he'd just had a good season with Blackburn, performing around the same standard (statistically) as Hector was performing for us, back at the time we were all raving about Hector being an excellent Championship defender and able to make the step up to the PL. So clearly his market value was much higher than £1.5m, much more like £8m, and I find it hard to believe Man City would have accepted such a low bid as £1.5m, even if he did only have one year on his contract. It's not like a Fredericks situation where they wouldn't have been able to match whatever wages we were offering him and persuade him to renew.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 15, 2021, 04:13:49 AMQuote from: Statto on January 15, 2021, 01:59:29 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 14, 2021, 11:26:34 PM
The media reports are that Tosin's transfer fee is very low around £1.5m
Here are media reports that it was £8m
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12850666/fulham-adarabioyo-transfer-man-city/
https://www.90min.com/posts/fulham-sign-tosin-adarabioyo-man-city-permanent-deal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8805723/Fulham-pushing-sign-Chelsea-midfielder-Ruben-Loftus-Cheek-loan.html
Ultimately we'll never know and people can believe what they want. What's irrefutable is that he'd just had a good season with Blackburn, performing around the same standard (statistically) as Hector was performing for us, back at the time we were all raving about Hector being an excellent Championship defender and able to make the step up to the PL. So clearly his market value was much higher than £1.5m, much more like £8m, and I find it hard to believe Man City would have accepted such a low bid as £1.5m, even if he did only have one year on his contract. It's not like a Fredericks situation where they wouldn't have been able to match whatever wages we were offering him and persuade him to renew.
Nothing is clear about Tosin transfer value, unless you also know Tosin's current wages. Mesut Özil is worth less in a transfer fee than Hector, because Ozil's wages are so high and Hector's are low.
Quote from: Statto on January 15, 2021, 09:56:04 AM
It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Tosin cost £2m up front plus £2m after 20, 40 and 60 appearances and a 20% sell-on clause, or something like that, and all the papers are just reporting the same thing differently.
I also agree with the post above that it's a moot point. Whether it was £2m or £8m, it was still a bargain, but doesn't change the original point made that a reliable, PL quality player like we need this month is much more likely to cost £20m+ (like Anderson and Lookman will) than whatever Tosin cost. So we may need to do something creative to get around that, but it's not obvious how/what we can do.
Quote from: colinwhite on January 15, 2021, 10:04:05 AM
Unless we are prepared to pay 20 mill plus its going to be difficult to upgrade on what we already have.
#Benfica will consider a move for Jean Seri if they cant get William Carvalho from #RealBetis. Talks between #fulhamfc + #galatasaray have hit a wall over loan fee #ffc https://t.co/OzHTtF6aQx
— Lyall Thomas (@SkySportsLyall) January 15, 2021
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 15, 2021, 03:21:14 PM
MLM to little Brentford on loan? Jansson is out for the season.
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 15, 2021, 06:51:08 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11698/12188721/mbaye-diagne-west-brom-looking-into-loan-deal-for-galatasaray-striker
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 15, 2021, 07:19:29 PMBabel seems to have a lot of love for FFC. I'm sure if Scott wants him he'll come. We'll be getting a last minute loan or 2 the way things are looking in the market.Quote from: DevonFFC on January 15, 2021, 06:51:08 PM
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11698/12188721/mbaye-diagne-west-brom-looking-into-loan-deal-for-galatasaray-striker
LOL...how are West Brom going to convince Mbaye to come to their side??? I'm sure his agent would say NO. He would say NO. That leaves Galatasary to want to give up their starting striker midway through the season and rely on who?
Once again...I highly doubt this.
Now, West Brom trying to get Ryan Babel I can see, but we have way more to offer Galatasary than bloody West Brom.
Quote from: General on January 16, 2021, 12:18:35 AM
I know this is a very divisive call and perhaps not possible due to wages and people saying he'd be disruptive but Diego Costa is available on a free and has clauses in his severance contract that he can't play for a competitor of athletico or for a champions league team. Must be worth a half season approach. He'd be prolific for the half season, we'd put him in the shop window and guarantee survival and buy a new striker in the summer.
Quote from: General on January 16, 2021, 12:18:35 AMWhy not. We're a big physical team now according to the pundits. He'd fit in nicely [emoji1360][emoji23]
I know this is a very divisive call and perhaps not possible due to wages and people saying he'd be disruptive but Diego Costa is available on a free and has clauses in his severance contract that he can't play for a competitor of athletico or for a champions league team. Must be worth a half season approach. He'd be prolific for the half season, we'd put him in the shop window and guarantee survival and buy a new striker in the summer.
QPR winger Bright Osayi-Samuel has agreed a pre-contract with Fenerbahce and will join on a four-year contract this summer. There is a chance it could this month if they can agree a deal. Won't be the last London-based midfielder who confirms a move to Fener this month...
— Graeme Bailey (@GraemeBailey) January 15, 2021
Quote from: love4ffc on January 16, 2021, 02:31:31 AMQPR winger Bright Osayi-Samuel has agreed a pre-contract with Fenerbahce and will join on a four-year contract this summer. There is a chance it could this month if they can agree a deal. Won't be the last London-based midfielder who confirms a move to Fener this month...
— Graeme Bailey (@GraemeBailey) January 15, 2021
Maked me wonder what other London player might be looking to move to Fenerbahce? Possible Fulhamplayers? Kmac, Stef Jo, Seri or even Ak?
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 16, 2021, 02:08:30 AM
So not the pacey striker that everybody has been wanging on about then...
Quote from: Holders on January 16, 2021, 02:56:30 PM
If Dwight Gayle is the new Jason Koumas, expect someone most of us have never heard of to be announced out of the blue on deadline day. If it's another of the quality like last window I'll be happy but the waiting is so frustrating. Perhaps windows should be shortened to a couple of weeks.
No firm news on defenestrations either.
Quote from: dfwilson84 on January 16, 2021, 01:11:33 PM
Pretty confident we will bring in a striker on deadline day. That's when the majority of transfer business will be done in this window.
I think that puts Odoi at risk of loosing his squad place in the 25. I fully expect Onomah to take La Marchand's spot and with Reid, Tete and Aina able to cover RB/RWB and 5 centre backs ahead of Odoi, I think he will be the one to make way.
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 16, 2021, 11:00:53 PM
I pray we stay up, bargain...
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I pray we stay up, bargain...
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Not sure how accurate that report is - the asking price looks low. They bought him for £16m according to Transfermarkt and his contract expires in 3 years, so I would expect an asking price closer to £25m.
Quote from: Statto on January 16, 2021, 11:15:35 PMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 16, 2021, 11:05:38 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 16, 2021, 11:00:53 PM
I pray we stay up, bargain...
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Not sure how accurate that report is - the asking price looks low. They bought him for £16m according to Transfermarkt and his contract expires in 3 years, so I would expect an asking price closer to £25m.
Could be that we paid a sizeable loan fee, maybe £5m already. Put in a few add-ons and you've got a total cost closer to the fee you mention.
Quote from: Statto on January 16, 2021, 11:15:35 PMQuote from: Asotosyios on January 16, 2021, 11:05:38 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 16, 2021, 11:00:53 PM
I pray we stay up, bargain...
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Not sure how accurate that report is - the asking price looks low. They bought him for £16m according to Transfermarkt and his contract expires in 3 years, so I would expect an asking price closer to £25m.
Could be that we paid a sizeable loan fee, maybe £5m already. Put in a few add-ons and you've got a total cost closer to the fee you mention.
Quote from: Tabby on January 17, 2021, 09:45:42 AM
Reduction in fee due to loan fee doesn't make any sense unless there was already an agreed buyout clause when the loan was made. Leipzig already has that money without selling him.
Quote from: Jeroen on January 17, 2021, 12:29:40 PM
I think the reason why we haven't gone for an easy deal with Babel (send seri that way and we get Babel who knows the club) is that we are aiming for someone better with Babel being a fall back option.
Don't get me wrong I would love Babel and think he would be a good solution for this season, but it kinda fills me with hope!
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 17, 2021, 12:22:07 PMQuote from: Tabby on January 17, 2021, 09:45:42 AM
Reduction in fee due to loan fee doesn't make any sense unless there was already an agreed buyout clause when the loan was made. Leipzig already has that money without selling him.
It does if they see a loan fee as recouping part of his sign on fee and don't suspect they'll get the same price. Like Seri for us, you can bet we're acknowledging loan fee's as part of his transfer value because no one is paying what we paid.
Quote from: grandad on January 18, 2021, 09:03:52 AMBut no transfer fee?
King wants £120k a week. No way we would pay that. Move on.
Quote from: Tempest on January 18, 2021, 09:18:34 AMQuote from: grandad on January 18, 2021, 09:03:52 AMBut no transfer fee?
King wants £120k a week. No way we would pay that. Move on.
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Quote from: Craven Mad on January 18, 2021, 09:23:07 AMQuote from: Tempest on January 18, 2021, 09:18:34 AMQuote from: grandad on January 18, 2021, 09:03:52 AMBut no transfer fee?
King wants £120k a week. No way we would pay that. Move on.
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Madness if true. Given he's a free transfer I'd expected him to shoot for a higher wage, but even half of that amount would be plenty enough. £120k is ridiculous.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 18, 2021, 09:46:53 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 18, 2021, 09:23:07 AMQuote from: Tempest on January 18, 2021, 09:18:34 AMQuote from: grandad on January 18, 2021, 09:03:52 AMBut no transfer fee?
King wants £120k a week. No way we would pay that. Move on.
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Madness if true. Given he's a free transfer I'd expected him to shoot for a higher wage, but even half of that amount would be plenty enough. £120k is ridiculous.
I guess he's better than what we got but really can't see the appeal of King. He's 29, not exactly prolific & every time I've seen him he's been rank average
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 18, 2021, 10:19:13 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 18, 2021, 09:46:53 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 18, 2021, 09:23:07 AMQuote from: Tempest on January 18, 2021, 09:18:34 AMQuote from: grandad on January 18, 2021, 09:03:52 AMBut no transfer fee?
King wants £120k a week. No way we would pay that. Move on.
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Madness if true. Given he's a free transfer I'd expected him to shoot for a higher wage, but even half of that amount would be plenty enough. £120k is ridiculous.
I guess he's better than what we got but really can't see the appeal of King. He's 29, not exactly prolific & every time I've seen him he's been rank average
The appeal is basically what you've said: better than what we currently have, Prem experience and likely available. That wage price is absurd though; there's no way anyone will pay that much
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 18, 2021, 10:50:02 AM
I see Chelsea have sold Charlie Brown to MK Dons
I wonder if he went for peanuts
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 18, 2021, 10:50:02 AMI see what you did there 👍😅
I see Chelsea have sold Charlie Brown to MK Dons
I wonder if he went for peanuts
Quote from: fcfulham55 on January 18, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
Josh King.
Thus far, 10 appearances for Bournemouth.
0 goals.
Is there a reason why we're going for him?
To be fair I don't know if he's out of favour because he wants to move on, could be just brief apps as sub?
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 18, 2021, 03:59:38 PM
Apparently we tried to re-sign Moussa Dembele the younger but couldn't afford the wages that Atleti offered him. Clearly we must have the right sort of money available to try and entice a decent player to join us, presumably on loan with an option so that we're not hamstrung by a large purchase should we get relegated
Quote from: jayffc on January 18, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-fulham-have-failed-in-bid-to-re-sign-34-5m-star/
so if true, would suggest, as we'd hope, we have been trying since early to get a deal done for a new striker.
Quote from: Statto on January 18, 2021, 04:53:19 PMQuote from: jayffc on January 18, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-fulham-have-failed-in-bid-to-re-sign-34-5m-star/
so if true, would suggest, as we'd hope, we have been trying since early to get a deal done for a new striker.
I don't think anyone doubts that we've been "trying"
When Derby went down with 11pts I'm sure they "tried" to stay up
Quote from: @jolslover on January 18, 2021, 05:55:58 PM
Ahhh I would have loved Dembele, would have been perfect for our team
Hopefully whoever we bring in is as good as him and I will be impressed
Would like Morelos - would be happy with King as well - in Kings premier league seasons he has scored 6,6,8,16 and 12 goals. Good return however with rumoured wages of 120k per week perhaps we could get better ...
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 18, 2021, 07:01:11 PM
Surely Toney from Brentford would be ideal
Quick, young, knows where the goal is and possibly only 15m tops?
Quote from: Arthur on January 18, 2021, 07:04:00 PMWhat even with a defender chucked in?Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 18, 2021, 07:01:11 PM
Surely Toney from Brentford would be ideal
Quick, young, knows where the goal is and possibly only 15m tops?
Not a hope at £15M.
Brentford aren't going to toss away their promotion chance for a quick £8M profit.
?s=21EXCLU - Mercato : Crystal Palace et Fulham pistent Boulaye Dia https://t.co/tpbDWT07CG pic.twitter.com/LUd1EdMXwN
— le10sport (@le10sport) January 18, 2021
EXCLU - Mercato : Crystal Palace et Fulham pistent Boulaye Dia https://t.co/tpbDWT07CG pic.twitter.com/LUd1EdMXwN
— le10sport (@le10sport) January 18, 2021
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 18, 2021, 08:40:47 PM
Quick look online he has 12 goals in 18 this season, 24 year old centre forward.
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 18, 2021, 08:40:47 PMsounds perfect to replace Robinson at left back.
Quick look online he has 12 goals in 18 this season, 24 year old centre forward.
Quote from: Twig on January 18, 2021, 08:45:09 PMPalace already have loads of forwards.
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Boulaye Dia, the center-forward of Stade de Reims , current top scorer in Ligue 1 with 12 goals, logically arouses many interests. In France, OM kept an eye on him, but did not advance his pawns in the end. In England, besides West Ham , several other Premier League clubs have come to the news in recent times.
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Quote from: Tabby on January 18, 2021, 07:42:03 PMWe desperately needed a forward. The stat machine obviously said no.
Remember arguing for Toney in the summer, but I don't think there is any way that Brentford will be selling their standout attacking player who has scored almost half of their goals halfway through a season where they're aiming for promotion.
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 18, 2021, 10:22:55 PMQuote from: Tabby on January 18, 2021, 07:42:03 PMWe desperately needed a forward. The stat machine obviously said no.
Remember arguing for Toney in the summer, but I don't think there is any way that Brentford will be selling their standout attacking player who has scored almost half of their goals halfway through a season where they're aiming for promotion.
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Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle.
Quote from: jayffc on January 19, 2021, 01:45:48 AM
Gayle a great championship striker but never scored more than 6 in a premier league season. Not for me, wanted him a couple seasons back when we were in the chamionship but not now.
Would only be interested if he was brought in as a second option to the main target (Dembele type or taking a step down someone like Dia) , with the view that, should we go down, we'd have a top championship level striker in place. Could see the logic then to a point, and he has experience on the wing too...but at 31 already, I think I'd still be a little underwhelmed.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 19, 2021, 08:30:57 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Would prefer a sub for Newcastle than the equal top scorer in Ligue 1 - equal with Mbappe
hahaahahahah
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 19, 2021, 09:20:07 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 19, 2021, 08:30:57 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Would prefer a sub for Newcastle than the equal top scorer in Ligue 1 - equal with Mbappe
hahaahahahah
In fairness, not agreeing/disagreeing with either of you but just playing Devil's advocate, Dia has only been this good for one season and has no Prem experience, whereas Gayle is a known quantity and when in the right system has been effective.
Dia could be a star, but he could equally end up as this season's Mitroglou. At least Gayle would be able to step straight in and, if the worse we're to happen and we were relegated, would likely stay with us in the Championship.
Tbh, I think we need two attackers anyway, so I don't think the question of 'which one?' Is particularly helpful, but just saying that there are fair reasons for both...
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 18, 2021, 10:32:18 PMGayle could be bad in training and Newcastle are looking to see the back of him. there are many a pitfall out there for us to avoid, this could be one of them.
Gayle not even in squad today. Strange for a team struggling to score goals. He must be off to a new club.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 19, 2021, 09:48:13 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 19, 2021, 09:20:07 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 19, 2021, 08:30:57 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Would prefer a sub for Newcastle than the equal top scorer in Ligue 1 - equal with Mbappe
hahaahahahah
In fairness, not agreeing/disagreeing with either of you but just playing Devil's advocate, Dia has only been this good for one season and has no Prem experience, whereas Gayle is a known quantity and when in the right system has been effective.
Dia could be a star, but he could equally end up as this season's Mitroglou. At least Gayle would be able to step straight in and, if the worse we're to happen and we were relegated, would likely stay with us in the Championship.
Tbh, I think we need two attackers anyway, so I don't think the question of 'which one?' Is particularly helpful, but just saying that there are fair reasons for both...
Exactly this.
Rui Fonte was banging them in for one season for Braga and look how that turned out. People just get swept away with a signing from abroad but I'd rather someone who knows the league.
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 19, 2021, 09:55:56 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 19, 2021, 09:48:13 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 19, 2021, 09:20:07 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 19, 2021, 08:30:57 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Would prefer a sub for Newcastle than the equal top scorer in Ligue 1 - equal with Mbappe
hahaahahahah
In fairness, not agreeing/disagreeing with either of you but just playing Devil's advocate, Dia has only been this good for one season and has no Prem experience, whereas Gayle is a known quantity and when in the right system has been effective.
Dia could be a star, but he could equally end up as this season's Mitroglou. At least Gayle would be able to step straight in and, if the worse we're to happen and we were relegated, would likely stay with us in the Championship.
Tbh, I think we need two attackers anyway, so I don't think the question of 'which one?' Is particularly helpful, but just saying that there are fair reasons for both...
Exactly this.
Rui Fonte was banging them in for one season for Braga and look how that turned out. People just get swept away with a signing from abroad but I'd rather someone who knows the league.
The most goals Gayle has ever managed in one PL season is 7, and he did that 7 years ago. The most he's scored in recent times is 6 in 17/18, and that was in 35 appearances. If he scores at the same rate he's managed over the last few seasons in the last 20 fixtures (should we buy him), he'll score about 4 goals, which isn't really very good considering he's on £50k a week and would probably want something in that region
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 19, 2021, 09:55:56 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 19, 2021, 09:48:13 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 19, 2021, 09:20:07 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 19, 2021, 08:30:57 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Would prefer a sub for Newcastle than the equal top scorer in Ligue 1 - equal with Mbappe
hahaahahahah
In fairness, not agreeing/disagreeing with either of you but just playing Devil's advocate, Dia has only been this good for one season and has no Prem experience, whereas Gayle is a known quantity and when in the right system has been effective.
Dia could be a star, but he could equally end up as this season's Mitroglou. At least Gayle would be able to step straight in and, if the worse we're to happen and we were relegated, would likely stay with us in the Championship.
Tbh, I think we need two attackers anyway, so I don't think the question of 'which one?' Is particularly helpful, but just saying that there are fair reasons for both...
Exactly this.
Rui Fonte was banging them in for one season for Braga and look how that turned out. People just get swept away with a signing from abroad but I'd rather someone who knows the league.
The most goals Gayle has ever managed in one PL season is 7, and he did that 7 years ago. The most he's scored in recent times is 6 in 17/18, and that was in 35 appearances. If he scores at the same rate he's managed over the last few seasons in the last 20 fixtures (should we buy him), he'll score about 4 goals, which isn't really very good considering he's on £50k a week and would probably want something in that region
Quote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 11:10:51 AMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 19, 2021, 09:55:56 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 19, 2021, 09:48:13 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 19, 2021, 09:20:07 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 19, 2021, 08:30:57 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Would prefer a sub for Newcastle than the equal top scorer in Ligue 1 - equal with Mbappe
hahaahahahah
In fairness, not agreeing/disagreeing with either of you but just playing Devil's advocate, Dia has only been this good for one season and has no Prem experience, whereas Gayle is a known quantity and when in the right system has been effective.
Dia could be a star, but he could equally end up as this season's Mitroglou. At least Gayle would be able to step straight in and, if the worse we're to happen and we were relegated, would likely stay with us in the Championship.
Tbh, I think we need two attackers anyway, so I don't think the question of 'which one?' Is particularly helpful, but just saying that there are fair reasons for both...
Exactly this.
Rui Fonte was banging them in for one season for Braga and look how that turned out. People just get swept away with a signing from abroad but I'd rather someone who knows the league.
The most goals Gayle has ever managed in one PL season is 7, and he did that 7 years ago. The most he's scored in recent times is 6 in 17/18, and that was in 35 appearances. If he scores at the same rate he's managed over the last few seasons in the last 20 fixtures (should we buy him), he'll score about 4 goals, which isn't really very good considering he's on £50k a week and would probably want something in that region
But he will hit the ground running, which is what we need.
Don't get me wrong, I'd probably rather we took the risk on Dia, but even if he works out to be a 'good' signing there's a risk he follows the Anguissa route, ie looks like a £30m player and a good signing in two years' time, but in the short-term isn't adjusted to the PL and is less useful than Ollie Norwood
Quote from: jayffc on January 19, 2021, 03:16:17 PMQuote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 11:10:51 AMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 19, 2021, 09:55:56 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 19, 2021, 09:48:13 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 19, 2021, 09:20:07 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 19, 2021, 08:30:57 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Would prefer a sub for Newcastle than the equal top scorer in Ligue 1 - equal with Mbappe
hahaahahahah
In fairness, not agreeing/disagreeing with either of you but just playing Devil's advocate, Dia has only been this good for one season and has no Prem experience, whereas Gayle is a known quantity and when in the right system has been effective.
Dia could be a star, but he could equally end up as this season's Mitroglou. At least Gayle would be able to step straight in and, if the worse we're to happen and we were relegated, would likely stay with us in the Championship.
Tbh, I think we need two attackers anyway, so I don't think the question of 'which one?' Is particularly helpful, but just saying that there are fair reasons for both...
Exactly this.
Rui Fonte was banging them in for one season for Braga and look how that turned out. People just get swept away with a signing from abroad but I'd rather someone who knows the league.
The most goals Gayle has ever managed in one PL season is 7, and he did that 7 years ago. The most he's scored in recent times is 6 in 17/18, and that was in 35 appearances. If he scores at the same rate he's managed over the last few seasons in the last 20 fixtures (should we buy him), he'll score about 4 goals, which isn't really very good considering he's on £50k a week and would probably want something in that region
But he will hit the ground running, which is what we need.
Don't get me wrong, I'd probably rather we took the risk on Dia, but even if he works out to be a 'good' signing there's a risk he follows the Anguissa route, ie looks like a £30m player and a good signing in two years' time, but in the short-term isn't adjusted to the PL and is less useful than Ollie Norwood
There is no guarantee he'll hit the ground running, his form is way off at the moment. He might, but there's not a huge amount of evidence to suggest it's a formality at this level. There's still plenty of risk based on that evidence.
There is always a risk involved in any transfer hitting the ground running, it is possible they will, it is possible they won't. We can't talk with such certainty regarding either option as if it is fact rather than opinion
Quote from: JimOG on January 19, 2021, 03:24:33 PM
We don't know FFC's FFP position but I would hope we'll bring in two players. When I looked at the bench on Saturday it showed how threadbare we are at Prem standard...whilst Chelsea ran Hudson Odoi Abrahams and Werner - all £130 million of them
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 19, 2021, 03:37:40 PMHe's 6'7, no thanks
What about Paul Onuachu from Genk, 6 feet 7 inches
Good finisher, strong header, can take penalties, scored 19 in 20 in the Belgian League, Nigerian international and should only cost aroun 10m
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2021, 04:07:10 PMThat's cheap. Surely a loan fee.
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Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 19, 2021, 04:12:37 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2021, 04:07:10 PMThat's cheap. Surely a loan fee.
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Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 19, 2021, 04:12:37 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2021, 04:07:10 PMThat's cheap. Surely a loan fee.
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Quote from: Deeping_white on January 19, 2021, 04:25:01 PMWe should be all over thisQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 19, 2021, 04:12:37 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2021, 04:07:10 PMThat's cheap. Surely a loan fee.
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He's out of contract in June so would have to be a permanent transfer
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 19, 2021, 04:26:55 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 19, 2021, 04:25:01 PMWe should be all over thisQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 19, 2021, 04:12:37 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2021, 04:07:10 PMThat's cheap. Surely a loan fee.
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He's out of contract in June so would have to be a permanent transfer
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Quote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 04:31:06 PMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 19, 2021, 04:26:55 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 19, 2021, 04:25:01 PMWe should be all over thisQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 19, 2021, 04:12:37 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2021, 04:07:10 PMThat's cheap. Surely a loan fee.
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He's out of contract in June so would have to be a permanent transfer
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If that's true and it's a permanent transfer then yes we should be moving for this fast
Quote from: Woodlawn on January 19, 2021, 05:25:36 PM
Parker now saying it is unlikely that we will bring in a striker this window,as per sky Transfer Show
Quote from: tonywildman on January 19, 2021, 05:24:36 PMYes, just heard this.... either a smokescreen or target we wanted we have missed out on and so now looking doubtful..
On sky just now, Scott Parker said is unlikely we will bring in a striker this transfer window
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 19, 2021, 05:37:02 PMQuote from: tonywildman on January 19, 2021, 05:24:36 PMYes, just heard this.... either a smokescreen or target we wanted we have missed out on and so now looking doubtful..
On sky just now, Scott Parker said is unlikely we will bring in a striker this transfer window
All sounds a bit desperate....
Quote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 19, 2021, 07:17:33 PMWe have nobody to score goals.Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
You've lost me, you saying we didn't try to win against Newcastle, Liverpool , Spurs or Chelsea?
Quote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 11:10:51 AMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 19, 2021, 09:55:56 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 19, 2021, 09:48:13 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 19, 2021, 09:20:07 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 19, 2021, 08:30:57 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Would prefer a sub for Newcastle than the equal top scorer in Ligue 1 - equal with Mbappe
hahaahahahah
In fairness, not agreeing/disagreeing with either of you but just playing Devil's advocate, Dia has only been this good for one season and has no Prem experience, whereas Gayle is a known quantity and when in the right system has been effective.
Dia could be a star, but he could equally end up as this season's Mitroglou. At least Gayle would be able to step straight in and, if the worse we're to happen and we were relegated, would likely stay with us in the Championship.
Tbh, I think we need two attackers anyway, so I don't think the question of 'which one?' Is particularly helpful, but just saying that there are fair reasons for both...
Exactly this.
Rui Fonte was banging them in for one season for Braga and look how that turned out. People just get swept away with a signing from abroad but I'd rather someone who knows the league.
The most goals Gayle has ever managed in one PL season is 7, and he did that 7 years ago. The most he's scored in recent times is 6 in 17/18, and that was in 35 appearances. If he scores at the same rate he's managed over the last few seasons in the last 20 fixtures (should we buy him), he'll score about 4 goals, which isn't really very good considering he's on £50k a week and would probably want something in that region
But he will hit the ground running, which is what we need.
Don't get me wrong, I'd probably rather we took the risk on Dia, but even if he works out to be a 'good' signing there's a risk he follows the Anguissa route, ie looks like a £30m player and a good signing in two years' time, but in the short-term isn't adjusted to the PL and is less useful than Ollie Norwood
Quote from: Twig on January 19, 2021, 06:54:06 PMMy exact words last weekend 5 mins after the game when again we had this monotonous diatribe of wanting Scott goneQuote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
For goodness sake give it a bloody rest.
Quote from: SG on January 19, 2021, 07:56:15 PMQuote from: Twig on January 19, 2021, 06:54:06 PMMy exact words last weekend 5 mins after the game when again we had this monotonous diatribe of wanting Scott goneQuote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
For goodness sake give it a bloody rest.
Quote from: @jolslover on January 19, 2021, 07:44:14 PMQuote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 11:10:51 AMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 19, 2021, 09:55:56 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 19, 2021, 09:48:13 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 19, 2021, 09:20:07 AMQuote from: @jolslover on January 19, 2021, 08:30:57 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 18, 2021, 10:23:58 PM
Would prefer Gayle to Dia.
Would prefer a sub for Newcastle than the equal top scorer in Ligue 1 - equal with Mbappe
hahaahahahah
In fairness, not agreeing/disagreeing with either of you but just playing Devil's advocate, Dia has only been this good for one season and has no Prem experience, whereas Gayle is a known quantity and when in the right system has been effective.
Dia could be a star, but he could equally end up as this season's Mitroglou. At least Gayle would be able to step straight in and, if the worse we're to happen and we were relegated, would likely stay with us in the Championship.
Tbh, I think we need two attackers anyway, so I don't think the question of 'which one?' Is particularly helpful, but just saying that there are fair reasons for both...
Exactly this.
Rui Fonte was banging them in for one season for Braga and look how that turned out. People just get swept away with a signing from abroad but I'd rather someone who knows the league.
The most goals Gayle has ever managed in one PL season is 7, and he did that 7 years ago. The most he's scored in recent times is 6 in 17/18, and that was in 35 appearances. If he scores at the same rate he's managed over the last few seasons in the last 20 fixtures (should we buy him), he'll score about 4 goals, which isn't really very good considering he's on £50k a week and would probably want something in that region
But he will hit the ground running, which is what we need.
Don't get me wrong, I'd probably rather we took the risk on Dia, but even if he works out to be a 'good' signing there's a risk he follows the Anguissa route, ie looks like a £30m player and a good signing in two years' time, but in the short-term isn't adjusted to the PL and is less useful than Ollie Norwood
Why will he? Just because he's got prem experience doesn't mean he will hit the ground running, lots of times we've signed players domestically that have done well at other clubs but for whatever reason don't work out at Fulham
Likewise just because he's foreign doesn't mean he will take a while to adapt, look at Anderson
Quote from: JimOG on January 19, 2021, 05:58:02 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on January 19, 2021, 05:37:02 PMQuote from: tonywildman on January 19, 2021, 05:24:36 PMYes, just heard this.... either a smokescreen or target we wanted we have missed out on and so now looking doubtful..
On sky just now, Scott Parker said is unlikely we will bring in a striker this transfer window
All sounds a bit desperate....
The quote on Sky is 'time is not on our side' ...maybe the same difference?
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Quote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 08:07:03 PMQuote from: JimOG on January 19, 2021, 05:58:02 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on January 19, 2021, 05:37:02 PMQuote from: tonywildman on January 19, 2021, 05:24:36 PMYes, just heard this.... either a smokescreen or target we wanted we have missed out on and so now looking doubtful..
On sky just now, Scott Parker said is unlikely we will bring in a striker this transfer window
All sounds a bit desperate....
The quote on Sky is 'time is not on our side' ...maybe the same difference?
Well we were never going to sign someone like Toney, King or Gayle because TK just doesn't operate like that. He's not just going to pay big money for a well-known domestic player. He has to prove his scouting prowess, business acumen and the value of his stats. So no doubt we're in discussions with some Championship Manager player at Benfica, Fiorentina, Lyon or somewhere like that, trying to persuade the club to accept £15m instead of £25m and/or trying to get the player to join us instead of Milan, Everton or Real Madrid. And Parker is just saying what the rest of us would if we had visibility of the situation - it probably won't even come off, and even if it does, it won't be until the last moment.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
Quote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 08:57:14 PMwhy will it be a grave mistake to not bring in two forwards in this window? Surely Parker is doing a good enough job as you have said , to keep us up without them.Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
If you can't see the huge improvements we've made over the last 8 games then I cannot help you. Changing the manager now would guarantee our regulation.
If we don't sign a striker, which we desperately need, it's not a failure of the manager- I don't want to criticise the DoF as I think he's committed to the club and passionate, but it would be a grave mistake not to bring one or two forwards in this window. I don't want to speak for others but I think this is a generally accepted view
Quote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 08:07:03 PMto be fair, he spent big money on the well known domestic players of bobby cav and knockaert last season and that didn't turn out to well. His stats signings as we like to call them have been spot on this season, so why not go for someone who might kick us on as opposed to someone who we probably know won't.Quote from: JimOG on January 19, 2021, 05:58:02 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on January 19, 2021, 05:37:02 PMQuote from: tonywildman on January 19, 2021, 05:24:36 PMYes, just heard this.... either a smokescreen or target we wanted we have missed out on and so now looking doubtful..
On sky just now, Scott Parker said is unlikely we will bring in a striker this transfer window
All sounds a bit desperate....
The quote on Sky is 'time is not on our side' ...maybe the same difference?
Well we were never going to sign someone like Toney, King or Gayle because TK just doesn't operate like that. He's not just going to pay big money for a well-known domestic player. He has to prove his scouting prowess, business acumen and the value of his stats. So no doubt we're in discussions with some Championship Manager player at Benfica, Fiorentina, Lyon or somewhere like that, trying to persuade the club to accept £15m instead of £25m and/or trying to get the player to join us instead of Milan, Everton or Real Madrid. And Parker is just saying what the rest of us would if we had visibility of the situation - it probably won't even come off, and even if it does, it won't be until the last moment.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:18:35 PM
to be fair, he spent big money on the well known domestic players of bobby cav and knockaert last season and that didn't turn out to well.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:04:25 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 08:57:14 PMwhy will it be a grave mistake to not bring in two forwards in this window? Surely Parker is doing a good enough job as you have said , to keep us up without them.Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
If you can't see the huge improvements we've made over the last 8 games then I cannot help you. Changing the manager now would guarantee our regulation.
If we don't sign a striker, which we desperately need, it's not a failure of the manager- I don't want to criticise the DoF as I think he's committed to the club and passionate, but it would be a grave mistake not to bring one or two forwards in this window. I don't want to speak for others but I think this is a generally accepted view
Quote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 10:28:52 PMRegressed under Parker's watch would be my take on it. Needed a top two squad last season to finish in the play offs and it's looking like we need a top ten team just to finish 17 th this season. 😉Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:18:35 PM
to be fair, he spent big money on the well known domestic players of bobby cav and knockaert last season and that didn't turn out to well.
You sure? They got us promoted. So I'd say they worked out well. Or do you attribute that to Parker's sheer brilliance as a manager, rather than having a good squad at his disposal?
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Quote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 10:32:43 PMi think we do agree but you won't admit it. I believe that like me you think we will get relegated without new strikers. Am I right?Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:04:25 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 08:57:14 PMwhy will it be a grave mistake to not bring in two forwards in this window? Surely Parker is doing a good enough job as you have said , to keep us up without them.Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
If you can't see the huge improvements we've made over the last 8 games then I cannot help you. Changing the manager now would guarantee our regulation.
If we don't sign a striker, which we desperately need, it's not a failure of the manager- I don't want to criticise the DoF as I think he's committed to the club and passionate, but it would be a grave mistake not to bring one or two forwards in this window. I don't want to speak for others but I think this is a generally accepted view
Fairly clear we aren't going to agree, so I guess time will tell.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 10:36:11 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 10:32:43 PMi think we do agree but you won't admit it. I believe that like me you think we will get relegated without new strikers. Am I right?Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:04:25 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 08:57:14 PMwhy will it be a grave mistake to not bring in two forwards in this window? Surely Parker is doing a good enough job as you have said , to keep us up without them.Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
If you can't see the huge improvements we've made over the last 8 games then I cannot help you. Changing the manager now would guarantee our regulation.
If we don't sign a striker, which we desperately need, it's not a failure of the manager- I don't want to criticise the DoF as I think he's committed to the club and passionate, but it would be a grave mistake not to bring one or two forwards in this window. I don't want to speak for others but I think this is a generally accepted view
Fairly clear we aren't going to agree, so I guess time will tell.
Quote from: LC on January 20, 2021, 01:37:06 AMi also agree that if we get a good striker in then we will have a good chance to stay up. My point is that if we don't, you yourself think we will go down, as do I, difference is I would want someone else to come in with fresh ideas to try and prevent that. Anyway it's a moot point as we will win the next 3, get a striker in and survive comfortably.Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 10:36:11 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 10:32:43 PMi think we do agree but you won't admit it. I believe that like me you think we will get relegated without new strikers. Am I right?Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:04:25 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 08:57:14 PMwhy will it be a grave mistake to not bring in two forwards in this window? Surely Parker is doing a good enough job as you have said , to keep us up without them.Quote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: LC on January 19, 2021, 06:43:19 PMyes we might stop winning games and slip down the league into the relegation spots. Oh wait. If we don't bring in a striker then surely Parker has already proved that he wouldn't be good enough to keep us up. More importantly, if we don't bring in a striker, then we need to change tactics and formation to actually try and win some games. We've seen how bad draws are for us, we need some wins.
If the club fail to bring in a striker this window it's a tragedy.
What would be worse if the board decide to remove Parker in hope someone new can get results- this would be a disaster and something I think could happen.
If you can't see the huge improvements we've made over the last 8 games then I cannot help you. Changing the manager now would guarantee our regulation.
If we don't sign a striker, which we desperately need, it's not a failure of the manager- I don't want to criticise the DoF as I think he's committed to the club and passionate, but it would be a grave mistake not to bring one or two forwards in this window. I don't want to speak for others but I think this is a generally accepted view
Fairly clear we aren't going to agree, so I guess time will tell.
Yes I do believe that. Where we don't agree is the performance of our manager. I think SP is doing a good job with what he has. If we get a striker and we don't improve I'll be the first to highlight any failings, but I don't believe that will be the case
Quote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 10:28:52 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:18:35 PM
to be fair, he spent big money on the well known domestic players of bobby cav and knockaert last season and that didn't turn out to well.
You sure? They got us promoted. So I'd say they worked out well. Or do you attribute that to Parker's sheer brilliance as a manager, rather than having a good squad at his disposal?
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Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 20, 2021, 04:41:34 AMQuote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 10:28:52 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:18:35 PM
to be fair, he spent big money on the well known domestic players of bobby cav and knockaert last season and that didn't turn out to well.
You sure? They got us promoted. So I'd say they worked out well. Or do you attribute that to Parker's sheer brilliance as a manager, rather than having a good squad at his disposal?
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Historical Analysis
The only sensible analysis of the "Bobby, Cav and Knockaert" signings is that they weren't the greatest or worst signings ever (prove that TK is improving); but there were good enough to keep us a YO-YO team allowing us to get more signings. If we keep signing players of their quality and value, then we will likely stay a YO-YO team, which is OK
Future
I am convinced, the longer Tony Khan keeps us a YO-YO team and the more he is involved, the more Khan money will be spent and the better it will be spent, so one day (maybe in a few years) we will end 17th in the Premier League.
We could finish the season in a number of positions this season: i) 17th position, which is our dream; ii) 18th with a good balance sheet, which places us favorites for promotion; or iii) 18th with a terrible balance sheet, with FFP laws requiring us to do a massive cut in the wages bill. Tony Khan's #1 focus should to be avoid the last possibility.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 20, 2021, 04:41:34 AMQuote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 10:28:52 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:18:35 PM
to be fair, he spent big money on the well known domestic players of bobby cav and knockaert last season and that didn't turn out to well.
You sure? They got us promoted. So I'd say they worked out well. Or do you attribute that to Parker's sheer brilliance as a manager, rather than having a good squad at his disposal?
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Historical Analysis
The only sensible analysis of the "Bobby, Cav and Knockaert" signings is that they weren't the greatest or worst signings ever (prove that TK is improving); but there were good enough to keep us a YO-YO team allowing us to get more signings. If we keep signing players of their quality and value, then we will likely stay a YO-YO team, which is OK
Future
I am convinced, the longer Tony Khan keeps us a YO-YO team and the more he is involved, the more Khan money will be spent and the better it will be spent, so one day (maybe in a few years) we will end 17th in the Premier League.
We could finish the season in a number of positions this season: i) 17th position, which is our dream; ii) 18th with a good balance sheet, which places us favorites for promotion; or iii) 18th with a terrible balance sheet, with FFP laws requiring us to do a massive cut in the wages bill. Tony Khan's #1 focus should to be avoid the last possibility.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 20, 2021, 04:41:34 AMQuote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 10:28:52 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:18:35 PM
to be fair, he spent big money on the well known domestic players of bobby cav and knockaert last season and that didn't turn out to well.
You sure? They got us promoted. So I'd say they worked out well. Or do you attribute that to Parker's sheer brilliance as a manager, rather than having a good squad at his disposal?
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Historical Analysis
The only sensible analysis of the "Bobby, Cav and Knockaert" signings is that they weren't the greatest or worst signings ever (prove that TK is improving); but there were good enough to keep us a YO-YO team allowing us to get more signings. If we keep signing players of their quality and value, then we will likely stay a YO-YO team, which is OK
Future
I am convinced, the longer Tony Khan keeps us a YO-YO team and the more he is involved, the more Khan money will be spent and the better it will be spent, so one day (maybe in a few years) we will end 17th in the Premier League.
We could finish the season in a number of positions this season: i) 17th position, which is our dream; ii) 18th with a good balance sheet, which places us favorites for promotion; or iii) 18th with a terrible balance sheet, with FFP laws requiring us to do a massive cut in the wages bill. Tony Khan's #1 focus should to be avoid the last possibility.
Quote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 09:24:40 AM
Is there any chance this thread could just stick to the title- transfer rumours? Other discussions, slagging/supporting TK, slagging/supporting Parker etc can have their own threads surely.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 20, 2021, 09:31:38 AMQuote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 09:24:40 AM
Is there any chance this thread could just stick to the title- transfer rumours? Other discussions, slagging/supporting TK, slagging/supporting Parker etc can have their own threads surely.
We locked this thread last time, purely because of that reason, and just updated it with transfer rumours as they come around, and think we'll be going back to model next time.
Quote from: jayffc on January 20, 2021, 09:40:45 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 20, 2021, 09:31:38 AMQuote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 09:24:40 AM
Is there any chance this thread could just stick to the title- transfer rumours? Other discussions, slagging/supporting TK, slagging/supporting Parker etc can have their own threads surely.
We locked this thread last time, purely because of that reason, and just updated it with transfer rumours as they come around, and think we'll be going back to model next time.
Yes please
Quote from: jayffc on January 20, 2021, 10:19:35 AMcould just as easily delete the whole thread as we have only loosely been linked with 3 players anyway haven't we. The most quiet window that I can remember.Quote from: Statto on January 20, 2021, 09:49:19 AMQuote from: jayffc on January 20, 2021, 09:40:45 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 20, 2021, 09:31:38 AMQuote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 09:24:40 AM
Is there any chance this thread could just stick to the title- transfer rumours? Other discussions, slagging/supporting TK, slagging/supporting Parker etc can have their own threads surely.
We locked this thread last time, purely because of that reason, and just updated it with transfer rumours as they come around, and think we'll be going back to model next time.
Yes please
Interesting response considering hardly any of your posts on this thread have contained any actual transfer rumours...
Never miss an opportunity for confrontation and snideyness do you. Telling.
No you're right , they've often been responses to people like you using it to slag off the board, and frankly I'm as tired now of it as I'm sure others are of reading it, going round in circles.
More than happy for them lock it down to avoid it. Sooner the better. Back to the hide post feature I think.
Quote from: Jeroen on January 20, 2021, 10:26:14 AM
So..... back on topic! :-)
According to Parker we are not looking at Dia
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-not-looking-to-sign-striker-dia-says-parker
And he mentioned something about the risk for owners and being in the bottom 3 and that the deal has to be right for all parties. This tells me LOAN WITH GUARANTEE TO BUY, right?
Quote from: Tabby on January 20, 2021, 09:48:54 AM
Parker saying that Dia has not been one of the names discussed in a new interview.
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/fulham-not-looking-to-sign-striker-dia-says-parker
Quote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 11:02:01 AM
We have our full loan quota though don't we? So we would have to send one back or make one perm to get another loan in.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 20, 2021, 11:50:57 AM
Just heard Stuttgart after Cauley Woodrow,but will most probably leave it till the Summer,as the German hierarchy looking at postponing games.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 20, 2021, 10:45:35 AM
A loan where the option is we must buy if we stay up may be more preferable to the selling club.
Quote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 11:02:01 AM
We have our full loan quota though don't we? So we would have to send one back or make one perm to get another loan in.
Quote from: Tabby on January 20, 2021, 12:06:10 PMQuote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 11:02:01 AM
We have our full loan quota though don't we? So we would have to send one back or make one perm to get another loan in.
Loan quota isn't a thing for players from foreign clubs. If we wanted to get a player from a domestic club we'd have to either buy Lemina or RLC or send one of them back though.
"With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas."
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 20, 2021, 09:29:17 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 20, 2021, 04:41:34 AMQuote from: Statto on January 19, 2021, 10:28:52 PMQuote from: fulhamben on January 19, 2021, 09:18:35 PM
to be fair, he spent big money on the well known domestic players of bobby cav and knockaert last season and that didn't turn out to well.
You sure? They got us promoted. So I'd say they worked out well. Or do you attribute that to Parker's sheer brilliance as a manager, rather than having a good squad at his disposal?
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Historical Analysis
The only sensible analysis of the "Bobby, Cav and Knockaert" signings is that they weren't the greatest or worst signings ever (prove that TK is improving); but there were good enough to keep us a YO-YO team allowing us to get more signings. If we keep signing players of their quality and value, then we will likely stay a YO-YO team, which is OK
Future
I am convinced, the longer Tony Khan keeps us a YO-YO team and the more he is involved, the more Khan money will be spent and the better it will be spent, so one day (maybe in a few years) we will end 17th in the Premier League.
We could finish the season in a number of positions this season: i) 17th position, which is our dream; ii) 18th with a good balance sheet, which places us favorites for promotion; or iii) 18th with a terrible balance sheet, with FFP laws requiring us to do a massive cut in the wages bill. Tony Khan's #1 focus should to be avoid the last possibility.
I have to disagree with you regarding being a yo yo team. Nothing is gained short or long term as there is no stability and no direction. We will be treading water if that keeps occurring. Loans coming in and going out, no foundation with a profusion of players passing each other in opposite directions like ships in the night. That in itself rules out any real empathy for players who come and go. Far more difficult to build a real team spirit.
You cannot build or plan anything with that philosophy and further more it denies and reduces Academy players getting an opportunity of playing in any matches. Overall the cost of going up and down like an empty lift is that it will cost the club in more ways than one, and not just financially. Our identity will be tarnished unnecessarily. A recipe for problems on and off the pitch whichever Division a club may find itself in. The idea of getting promoted is to stay promoted, and make plans to stay promoted which requires foresight and vision rather than accept what you are suggesting, and spend the whole year putting out fires, no sense in that. Managers have to be supported by their employees in enabling them to give the team the best chance of staying in the top flight. Otherwise you will be replacing staff non stop on and off the pitch every year without gaining anything but the wrong reputation.
As I have tried to explain if you get promoted you pull out all the stops to stay promoted.
Quote from: Statto on January 20, 2021, 12:27:22 PMQuote from: Tabby on January 20, 2021, 12:06:10 PMQuote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 11:02:01 AM
We have our full loan quota though don't we? So we would have to send one back or make one perm to get another loan in.
Loan quota isn't a thing for players from foreign clubs. If we wanted to get a player from a domestic club we'd have to either buy Lemina or RLC or send one of them back though.
"With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas."
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
My understanding is we can't include more than 5 loans in the matchday squad (whether domestic or foreign)
Quote from: Statto on January 20, 2021, 12:27:22 PMi had this conversation with a sports writer in the summer. Neither of us can actually find a rule that states it for prem teams. So I don't think it's an actual thing. And I read through the whole prem rule book which I do not recommend.Quote from: Tabby on January 20, 2021, 12:06:10 PMQuote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 11:02:01 AM
We have our full loan quota though don't we? So we would have to send one back or make one perm to get another loan in.
Loan quota isn't a thing for players from foreign clubs. If we wanted to get a player from a domestic club we'd have to either buy Lemina or RLC or send one of them back though.
"With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas."
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
My understanding is we can't include more than 5 loans in the matchday squad (whether domestic or foreign)
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 20, 2021, 09:31:38 AMQuote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 09:24:40 AM
Is there any chance this thread could just stick to the title- transfer rumours? Other discussions, slagging/supporting TK, slagging/supporting Parker etc can have their own threads surely.
We locked this thread last time, purely because of that reason, and just updated it with transfer rumours as they come around, and think we'll be going back to model next time.
Quote from: fulhamben on January 20, 2021, 12:35:05 PMQuote from: Statto on January 20, 2021, 12:27:22 PMi had this conversation with a sports writer in the summer. Neither of us can actually find a rule that states it for prem teams. So I don't think it's an actual thing. And I read through the whole prem rule book which I do not recommend.Quote from: Tabby on January 20, 2021, 12:06:10 PMQuote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 11:02:01 AM
We have our full loan quota though don't we? So we would have to send one back or make one perm to get another loan in.
Loan quota isn't a thing for players from foreign clubs. If we wanted to get a player from a domestic club we'd have to either buy Lemina or RLC or send one of them back though.
"With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas."
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
My understanding is we can't include more than 5 loans in the matchday squad (whether domestic or foreign)
Stefan Johansen | “We are looking at solutions” – Agent confirms several clubs want Fulham player, won’t just go anywherehttps://t.co/bHEiSxm1f9 #ffc
— Sport Witness (@Sport_Witness) January 20, 2021
Quote from: Statto on January 20, 2021, 12:27:22 PMQuote from: Tabby on January 20, 2021, 12:06:10 PMQuote from: The Cravenette on January 20, 2021, 11:02:01 AM
We have our full loan quota though don't we? So we would have to send one back or make one perm to get another loan in.
Loan quota isn't a thing for players from foreign clubs. If we wanted to get a player from a domestic club we'd have to either buy Lemina or RLC or send one of them back though.
"With the exception of Welsh clubs competing in the competitions listed under Rule V.6.2, loans from a club in membership of another National Association do not count towards the above quotas."
https://www.premierleague.com/news/464747
My understanding is we can't include more than 5 loans in the matchday squad (whether domestic or foreign)
Quote from: FFC In Oz on January 20, 2021, 02:00:38 PM
I'm not sure why Parker said we aren't interested in Dia.
We aren't going to be able to attract a world-class striker (obviously), so someone like Dia, leading the Ligue 1 goal scoring charts - is exactly the type of forward we SHOULD be looking to take a chance on.
Parker says we should be doing early business, and we've had no substantial links to anybody yet, not one player.
It wouldn't surprise me to see us get nobody in this window, except maybe for a prospect from the lower leagues.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 20, 2021, 02:20:22 PMQuote from: FFC In Oz on January 20, 2021, 02:00:38 PM
I'm not sure why Parker said we aren't interested in Dia.
We aren't going to be able to attract a world-class striker (obviously), so someone like Dia, leading the Ligue 1 goal scoring charts - is exactly the type of forward we SHOULD be looking to take a chance on.
Parker says we should be doing early business, and we've had no substantial links to anybody yet, not one player.
It wouldn't surprise me to see us get nobody in this window, except maybe for a prospect from the lower leagues.
And they reckon he'll go for 13m which in today's money isn't a huge amount
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 20, 2021, 02:50:37 PMHow much do the Khans trust SP? It's simple. Buy him forwards to give him a chance to stay up, or don't and relegate us again.Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 20, 2021, 02:20:22 PMQuote from: FFC In Oz on January 20, 2021, 02:00:38 PM
I'm not sure why Parker said we aren't interested in Dia.
We aren't going to be able to attract a world-class striker (obviously), so someone like Dia, leading the Ligue 1 goal scoring charts - is exactly the type of forward we SHOULD be looking to take a chance on.
Parker says we should be doing early business, and we've had no substantial links to anybody yet, not one player.
It wouldn't surprise me to see us get nobody in this window, except maybe for a prospect from the lower leagues.
And they reckon he'll go for 13m which in today's money isn't a huge amount
£13m isn't normally an issue for us, but if we pay it and go down, it puts us in a really awkward position with regards to FPP. Appreciate it's a catch 22 as we need a good striker to survive and not buying one means we inevitably go down, but if we invest and still go down then it screws us for next season. Best thing to do is loan with obligation to buy should we stay up, which I'm sure is something the club are looking at.
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 20, 2021, 03:33:21 PM
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Nice want Seri and MLM back, we should swap them for Kasper Dolberg
Quote from: Jeroen on January 20, 2021, 04:01:41 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 20, 2021, 03:33:21 PM
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Nice want Seri and MLM back, we should swap them for Kasper Dolberg
I saw somewhere that he is looking to move (or they are looking to move him)
Good solution/option in my opinion
Quote from: Jeroen on January 20, 2021, 04:01:41 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 20, 2021, 03:33:21 PM
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Nice want Seri and MLM back, we should swap them for Kasper Dolberg
I saw somewhere that he is looking to move (or they are looking to move him)
Good solution/option in my opinion
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 20, 2021, 02:20:22 PMQuote from: FFC In Oz on January 20, 2021, 02:00:38 PM
I'm not sure why Parker said we aren't interested in Dia.
We aren't going to be able to attract a world-class striker (obviously), so someone like Dia, leading the Ligue 1 goal scoring charts - is exactly the type of forward we SHOULD be looking to take a chance on.
Parker says we should be doing early business, and we've had no substantial links to anybody yet, not one player.
It wouldn't surprise me to see us get nobody in this window, except maybe for a prospect from the lower leagues.
And they reckon he'll go for 13m which in today's money isn't a huge amount
Quote from: MickeyAdamsFamily on January 20, 2021, 06:34:13 PM
Kasper Dolberg would be an amazing catch.
I seriously doubt he would ever consider coming to us, but he's a huge talent. Maybe Andersen could help to convince him that we're building something special at Fulham, and we can use Seri & MLM to sweeten the deal for Nice. This is a pleasant fantasy, and I'm going to hold on to it for a while...
Dolberg is a big guy, but surprisingly fast. He holds the ball well with skilled footwork & has great interlink play with wingers. He would fit in very well with the style we've adopted. Plus, he's only 23.
Oh well, only 10 days until reality sets in...
Quote from: Barrett487 on January 20, 2021, 06:54:54 PM
https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2021/bordeaux-enquire-for-jean-michael-seri/
Bordeaux enquire for Jean-Michaël Seri
Our colleagues at Foot Mercato report that Ligue 1 side Bordeaux have enquired for Fulham's Ivorian international central midfielder Jean-Michaël Seri.
Les Girondins are hoping to land the 29-year-old on loan with an option to buy – OGC Nice are also seeking to bring Seri back, per Eurosport.
Benfica had also been interested in Seri, but are understood to have turned their attention to other possible targets.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 21, 2021, 09:57:18 AM
Palace have got themselves a decent new striker from Bundesliga - Jean Mateta
Quote from: Riversider on January 21, 2021, 10:53:30 AMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 21, 2021, 09:57:18 AM
Palace have got themselves a decent new striker from Bundesliga - Jean Mateta
We will now be linked with Benteke before the day is out 😉
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 21, 2021, 09:57:18 AM
Palace have got themselves a decent new striker from Bundesliga - Jean Mateta
Quote from: FFC In Oz on January 21, 2021, 10:56:57 AMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 21, 2021, 09:57:18 AM
Palace have got themselves a decent new striker from Bundesliga - Jean Mateta
We'll end up with a 17 year old from Grimsby though so we're cool
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 21, 2021, 09:57:18 AM
Palace have got themselves a decent new striker from Bundesliga - Jean Mateta
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 21, 2021, 09:57:18 AMBut you can't sign players before deadline day. Oh...
Palace have got themselves a decent new striker from Bundesliga - Jean Mateta
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 21, 2021, 11:23:51 AMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 21, 2021, 09:57:18 AM
Palace have got themselves a decent new striker from Bundesliga - Jean Mateta
Looks good but doesn't fit the profile of quick, dynamic striker that would suit our tactics. More like Mitro, albeit maybe better with his feet.
Quote from: bencher on January 21, 2021, 11:20:56 AMQuote from: FFC In Oz on January 21, 2021, 10:56:57 AMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 21, 2021, 09:57:18 AM
Palace have got themselves a decent new striker from Bundesliga - Jean Mateta
We'll end up with a 17 year old from Grimsby though so we're cool
But have you seen his stats in the North East Lincolnshire Under 18s league?
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 21, 2021, 09:57:18 AM
Palace have got themselves a decent new striker from Bundesliga - Jean Mateta
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2021, 07:09:17 AM
Spam have upped their bid for Josh King.
Quote from: Hoppus on January 22, 2021, 09:12:25 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2021, 07:09:17 AM
Spam have upped their bid for Josh King.
If Igalo is the other option, I want Josh King!
Spam offering £16m but West Brom also interested.
Quote from: filham on January 22, 2021, 10:22:35 AMThat's crazy money for King, especially less than 6 months before the end of his contract.Quote from: Hoppus on January 22, 2021, 09:12:25 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2021, 07:09:17 AM
Spam have upped their bid for Josh King.
If Igalo is the other option, I want Josh King!
Spam offering £16m but West Brom also interested.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 22, 2021, 10:45:26 AM
His agent has come forward saying the rumour £120k and huge wage demands isn't true but I'd not pay £16m for him. Haven't been impressed last two seasons to be honest.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2021, 11:02:35 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 22, 2021, 10:45:26 AM
His agent has come forward saying the rumour £120k and huge wage demands isn't true but I'd not pay £16m for him. Haven't been impressed last two seasons to be honest.
True....But maybe he has fell out of love with Bournemouth and he'll hit the ground running at another club...Might keep us up if he does.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 22, 2021, 11:14:28 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2021, 11:02:35 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 22, 2021, 10:45:26 AM
His agent has come forward saying the rumour £120k and huge wage demands isn't true but I'd not pay £16m for him. Haven't been impressed last two seasons to be honest.
True....But maybe he has fell out of love with Bournemouth and he'll hit the ground running at another club...Might keep us up if he does.
Whilst I don't disagree, any player can make a move and have a rejuvenation in career, I'm just not sure he's what we need in terms of final piece of the puzzle. I mean, if he comes, amazing and i'll support him and pray he delivers!
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 22, 2021, 11:34:17 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 22, 2021, 11:14:28 AMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2021, 11:02:35 AMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 22, 2021, 10:45:26 AM
His agent has come forward saying the rumour £120k and huge wage demands isn't true but I'd not pay £16m for him. Haven't been impressed last two seasons to be honest.
True....But maybe he has fell out of love with Bournemouth and he'll hit the ground running at another club...Might keep us up if he does.
Whilst I don't disagree, any player can make a move and have a rejuvenation in career, I'm just not sure he's what we need in terms of final piece of the puzzle. I mean, if he comes, amazing and i'll support him and pray he delivers!
He hasn't scored a league goal this season, he's got 6 months left on his deal & he's 29. HTF can he be worth that 16m? He gets a goal in every four & a bit games & sounds like he's a tool downer too
Surely there's got to be a better option out there??
Quote from: FFC In Oz on January 22, 2021, 03:08:35 PMDon't blame Tony if this happens though. Although its his job.
Looking increasingly likely that we won't get anyone in.
Here's to Cav playing up top for the rest of the season.
Quote from: FFC In Oz on January 22, 2021, 03:08:35 PM.....and for the promotion push next......👍🤣
Looking increasingly likely that we won't get anyone in.
Here's to Cav playing up top for the rest of the season.
Quote from: Mullers OG on January 22, 2021, 04:54:45 PM
Time for Woodrow to come home. Poorly treated to my mind when he was with us and just the sort of finisher we need now.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 22, 2021, 05:40:30 PMI was a great fan of Cauley Woodrow and thought he was a very nice footballer that never got the right opportunities with us. Having said that I am not confident that he would solve our goal scoring problems right now. If Parker thought he could surely we would have secured his signature on January 1st.Quote from: Mullers OG on January 22, 2021, 04:54:45 PM
Time for Woodrow to come home. Poorly treated to my mind when he was with us and just the sort of finisher we need now.
Stuttgart want him in the Summer window.
Quote from: Mullers OG on January 22, 2021, 04:54:45 PMI doubt he would get under 23 time mate.Very rarely works out for someone to come back and do well.IMO he's just not quick enough for the prem.
Time for Woodrow to come home. Poorly treated to my mind when he was with us and just the sort of finisher we need now.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 22, 2021, 07:37:10 PMQuote from: Mullers OG on January 22, 2021, 04:54:45 PMI doubt he would get under 23 time mate.Very rarely works out for someone to come back and do well.IMO he's just not quick enough for the prem.
Time for Woodrow to come home. Poorly treated to my mind when he was with us and just the sort of finisher we need now.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 22, 2021, 07:46:52 PM
Deadline day move for Cenk Tosun is where my moneys at.
Quote from: Arthur on January 23, 2021, 04:19:31 AMQuote from: PaulJ123 on January 22, 2021, 07:46:52 PM
Deadline day move for Cenk Tosun is where my moneys at.
I think West Brom will most likely get him - Allardyce was manager at Everton when Tosun first went there.
A possibility for WBA as is Benteke apparently 🤔 !!! Benteke maybe too similar to Mitro for us but we need to watch WBA with Sam !!
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AM
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AMAmazing that, considering its impossible to get players in January according to some!
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AM
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 23, 2021, 10:26:58 AMWe have only missed out on them if they had an interest in coming here in the first place, we are in the relegation zone, we are not going to get any half decent striker coming unless they have no other options.Quote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AM
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
Looks like he's got a good scoring record in la liga as does the new palace striker in the Bundesliga. That's 2 we've missed out on
Quote from: St. Andrews White on January 23, 2021, 11:02:41 AM
Rumour going around That Genoa have opened talks with Southampton to sign Lemina. Would be a blow I think
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Quote from: Jim© on January 23, 2021, 11:08:32 AM
They can't at the moment, we've got an option in place. Smells of poor journalism to me.
The £15m-rated forward has been involved in 40% of Fulham's Premier League goals so far this season, yet his transfer rests on Premier League survival.
— The Goalpost (@TGoalpost) January 23, 2021
More on: https://t.co/3GRdgTPNEm#Fulham #FulhamFC #PremierLeague #RBLeipzig #Leipzig #Lookman #transfers #TransferTalk #news
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AM
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
Quote from: Classic94 on January 23, 2021, 12:12:50 PMQuote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AM
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
And Brighton too. No excuses - it's blindingly obvious where we're falling short. Our defensive improvement will be for nothing if we don't get a striker in ASAP.
Quote from: Classic94 on January 23, 2021, 12:12:50 PMQuote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AM
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
And Brighton too. No excuses - it's blindingly obvious where we're falling short. Our defensive improvement will be for nothing if we don't get a striker in ASAP.
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 12:56:16 PMQuote from: Classic94 on January 23, 2021, 12:12:50 PMQuote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AM
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
And Brighton too. No excuses - it's blindingly obvious where we're falling short. Our defensive improvement will be for nothing if we don't get a striker in ASAP.
Have Brighton signed a striker in this window too? Unless you're referrring to Welbeck from a few month ago?
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 23, 2021, 01:41:35 PM
https://www.gazzetta.it/Exception/23-01-2021/mercatospezia-fulham-offre-12-milioni-nzola-40066334906.shtml
We've made a £10.5m offer for M'bala Nzola of Spezia apparently
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 23, 2021, 01:41:35 PM
https://www.gazzetta.it/Exception/23-01-2021/mercatospezia-fulham-offre-12-milioni-nzola-40066334906.shtml
We've made a £10.5m offer for M'bala Nzola of Spezia apparently
Quote from: Tabby on January 23, 2021, 01:46:56 PM
https://www.calciomercato.it/2021/01/23/calciomercato-juventus-adarabioyo-fulham-premier/
According to this Juventus are interested in signing Tosin, and the asking price is meant to be €10-12 million. Seems like a rubbish story though.
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 23, 2021, 01:41:35 PM
https://www.gazzetta.it/Exception/23-01-2021/mercatospezia-fulham-offre-12-milioni-nzola-40066334906.shtml
We've made a £10.5m offer for M'bala Nzola of Spezia apparently
Quote from: twang on January 23, 2021, 02:47:34 PMQuote from: Tabby on January 23, 2021, 01:46:56 PM
https://www.calciomercato.it/2021/01/23/calciomercato-juventus-adarabioyo-fulham-premier/
According to this Juventus are interested in signing Tosin, and the asking price is meant to be €10-12 million. Seems like a rubbish story though.
Don't know much about him except that he's the type of player I want us to go for as he's a left-footed striker/winger hybrid so we could play him wide right or up front on his own. Just the type of player we're missing. If he's good enough is another question though, but his record this season is impressive.
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 23, 2021, 02:58:32 PM
Unless he's injured he's not playing or in the match day squad as I write this
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 23, 2021, 10:18:21 AMQuote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AMAmazing that, considering its impossible to get players in January according to some!
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
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Quote from: Tabby on January 23, 2021, 03:08:42 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 23, 2021, 02:58:32 PM
Unless he's injured he's not playing or in the match day squad as I write this
This is the fourth game he has been out for.
Quote from: Whitestone on January 23, 2021, 02:58:30 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 23, 2021, 01:41:35 PM
https://www.gazzetta.it/Exception/23-01-2021/mercatospezia-fulham-offre-12-milioni-nzola-40066334906.shtml
We've made a £10.5m offer for M'bala Nzola of Spezia apparently
Spezia currently playing away at Roma. Nzola not in the starting line up or on the bench. Could there be something happening here ?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2021, 03:23:23 PMQuote from: Whitestone on January 23, 2021, 02:58:30 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 23, 2021, 01:41:35 PM
https://www.gazzetta.it/Exception/23-01-2021/mercatospezia-fulham-offre-12-milioni-nzola-40066334906.shtml
We've made a £10.5m offer for M'bala Nzola of Spezia apparently
Spezia currently playing away at Roma. Nzola not in the starting line up or on the bench. Could there be something happening here ?
He's having a medical at Eintracht Frankfurt.🤔
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 23, 2021, 03:25:37 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2021, 03:23:23 PMQuote from: Whitestone on January 23, 2021, 02:58:30 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 23, 2021, 01:41:35 PM
https://www.gazzetta.it/Exception/23-01-2021/mercatospezia-fulham-offre-12-milioni-nzola-40066334906.shtml
We've made a £10.5m offer for M'bala Nzola of Spezia apparently
Spezia currently playing away at Roma. Nzola not in the starting line up or on the bench. Could there be something happening here ?
He's having a medical at Eintracht Frankfurt.🤔
Have they not just signed the lad from Madrid?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2021, 03:29:15 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 23, 2021, 03:25:37 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2021, 03:23:23 PMQuote from: Whitestone on January 23, 2021, 02:58:30 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 23, 2021, 01:41:35 PM
https://www.gazzetta.it/Exception/23-01-2021/mercatospezia-fulham-offre-12-milioni-nzola-40066334906.shtml
We've made a £10.5m offer for M'bala Nzola of Spezia apparently
Spezia currently playing away at Roma. Nzola not in the starting line up or on the bench. Could there be something happening here ?
He's having a medical at Eintracht Frankfurt.🤔
Have they not just signed the lad from Madrid?
I'm joking....It will be something like that I'm presuming why he isn't in their squad.
Quote from: Whitestone on January 23, 2021, 03:34:09 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2021, 03:29:15 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 23, 2021, 03:25:37 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 23, 2021, 03:23:23 PMQuote from: Whitestone on January 23, 2021, 02:58:30 PMQuote from: Deeping_white on January 23, 2021, 01:41:35 PM
https://www.gazzetta.it/Exception/23-01-2021/mercatospezia-fulham-offre-12-milioni-nzola-40066334906.shtml
We've made a £10.5m offer for M'bala Nzola of Spezia apparently
Spezia currently playing away at Roma. Nzola not in the starting line up or on the bench. Could there be something happening here ?
He's having a medical at Eintracht Frankfurt.🤔
Have they not just signed the lad from Madrid?
I'm joking....It will be something like that I'm presuming why he isn't in their squad.
He was subbed off in a match against Sampdoria on 11 Jan and hasn't played since so he's most likely out injured. On a positive note he did score a penalty in that game
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 23, 2021, 03:43:31 PM
Says ankle problem here on 16 Jan - nailed on we sign him then boys and girls
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mbala-nzola/leistungsdaten/spieler/354814/saison/2020/plus/1#gesamt
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 23, 2021, 10:18:21 AMQuote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AMAmazing that, considering its impossible to get players in January according to some!
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
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Quote from: Tabby on January 23, 2021, 03:08:42 PMOh dear sounds like a treatment room partner for KongoloQuote from: DevonFFC on January 23, 2021, 02:58:32 PM
Unless he's injured he's not playing or in the match day squad as I write this
This is the fourth game he has been out for.
Quote from: jayffc on January 23, 2021, 03:40:38 PM
Imagine it's always likely to be one of these more risky purchases than a consistent top league scorer given our league position... hes only 24 so no reason he cant improve and scoring well in his first serie A season. Lots of rumblings of interest from Milan and other clubs in italy,
Let's see how it pans out
Quote from: Statto on January 23, 2021, 04:25:27 PMQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 23, 2021, 10:18:21 AMQuote from: Jamie88 on January 23, 2021, 10:09:09 AMAmazing that, considering its impossible to get players in January according to some!
I see Wolves have managed to sign a striker in Willian Jose from Sociedad. Very frustrating to see both them and Palace signing strikers when we are left without so much as a rumour for anyone.
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Yep, exactly right Denzil
Quote from: Tabby on January 23, 2021, 06:10:57 PM
https://www.calcionews24.com/spezia-due-proposte-dalla-premier-league-per-nzola-i-dettagli/
Saying that Fulham have bid €12 million for Mbala Nzola but that Spezia doesn't want to sell.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 23, 2021, 06:30:46 PM
Spezia are probably trying to survive in their league - be a bit stupid if they sold their goal scorer at this stage I would say............
Quote from: twang on January 23, 2021, 06:53:02 PM
Offer for Piatek rejected according to this.
https://www.onet.pl/sport/onetsport/transfery-hertha-otrzymala-oferte-za-piatka-zdecydowana-odpowiedz/ep73ljr,d87b6cc4
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 23, 2021, 06:30:46 PMTo be fair they're in a much better league position than we are.
Spezia are probably trying to survive in their league - be a bit stupid if they sold their goal scorer at this stage I would say............
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 23, 2021, 07:43:45 PM
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Quote from: joef on January 24, 2021, 09:15:46 AM
I really think we should look to Championship for a striker.
Someone who will be eager to prove themselves and not see it as a sidestep or temporary stop.
Someone who won't need to settle in from another country in, let's be honest, very surreal times due to COVID. I can imagine London can feel quite lonely without anyone there to help show you around, and without any of the perks of London living actually being open due to COVID. That could affect performances and ability to hit the ground running, scoring from the very start of their Fulham career.
Che Adam's, Bowen, Watkins have all stepped up and look good.
And if worst happens this year and we go down we will have the Championship ready striker on the books to help fire us back up.
I'd be really interested in knowing who is out there in the Championship and could potentially be that guy for us.
Quote from: joef on January 24, 2021, 09:15:46 AM
I really think we should look to Championship for a striker.
Someone who will be eager to prove themselves and not see it as a sidestep or temporary stop.
Someone who won't need to settle in from another country in, let's be honest, very surreal times due to COVID. I can imagine London can feel quite lonely without anyone there to help show you around, and without any of the perks of London living actually being open due to COVID. That could affect performances and ability to hit the ground running, scoring from the very start of their Fulham career.
Che Adam's, Bowen, Watkins have all stepped up and look good.
And if worst happens this year and we go down we will have the Championship ready striker on the books to help fire us back up.
I'd be really interested in knowing who is out there in the Championship and could potentially be that guy for us.
Matt O’Riley is a Don ✍️#DonDeal pic.twitter.com/SJNtlObctZ
— Milton Keynes Dons (@MKDonsFC) January 24, 2021
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 24, 2021, 11:27:37 AMMatt O’Riley is a Don ✍️#DonDeal pic.twitter.com/SJNtlObctZ
— Milton Keynes Dons (@MKDonsFC) January 24, 2021
Quote from: @jolslover on January 24, 2021, 11:33:13 AMQuote from: Friendsoffulham on January 24, 2021, 11:27:37 AMMatt O’Riley is a Don ✍️#DonDeal pic.twitter.com/SJNtlObctZ
— Milton Keynes Dons (@MKDonsFC) January 24, 2021
That's mad, rejected a Fulham contract to sign for MK Dons .. I always rated him
Quote from: 70sPimlico on January 24, 2021, 01:48:44 PM
Apologies if sort of wrong thread and of its been answered elsewhere but how on earth can a transfer that took place nearly two years ago not be looked at yet by a tribunal (Harvey Elliot)
How long could that meeting possibly take. Surely, a day at absolute most.
It is like that QPR punishment thing, insofar as its an area of football administration that is a hidden world to me. I'm sure it isn't but it just smells seedy
Quote from: HV71 on January 24, 2021, 10:20:25 PMGotta be better than nobody surely?
No too slow and isn't scoring for Palace
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 24, 2021, 11:15:22 PMQuote from: HV71 on January 24, 2021, 10:20:25 PMGotta be better than nobody surely?
No too slow and isn't scoring for Palace
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Quote from: AJW48361 on January 24, 2021, 06:48:49 PM
Talented player not been handled that well would've thought Staying and playing under Scot would help his career
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 24, 2021, 11:15:22 PMGiven the way we have been playing it seems we need a mobile striker and for me Benteke doesn't fit that partQuote from: HV71 on January 24, 2021, 10:20:25 PMGotta be better than nobody surely?
No too slow and isn't scoring for Palace
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Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 24, 2021, 11:15:22 PMQuote from: HV71 on January 24, 2021, 10:20:25 PMGotta be better than nobody surely?
No too slow and isn't scoring for Palace
No , gotta be better than Mitro, Cav.and Kamara.
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Quote from: junior white on January 25, 2021, 11:14:44 AM
Cant see us loaning anyone, unless we make someone permanent or send back a loaner as don't we have to many now so one has to miss out on game days? For some reason i think it is 5 in a match day squad.
Loans we have are
Areola
Andersen
Aina
Lotus Cheek
Lemina
Lookman
Quote from: Tabby on January 25, 2021, 11:19:50 AMFair enoughQuote from: junior white on January 25, 2021, 11:14:44 AM
Cant see us loaning anyone, unless we make someone permanent or send back a loaner as don't we have to many now so one has to miss out on game days? For some reason i think it is 5 in a match day squad.
Loans we have are
Areola
Andersen
Aina
Lotus Cheek
Lemina
Lookman
That is the rule in the Championship, no such rules in the Prem other than 2 domestic loans as a restriction. We've had all our loans in the same match day squad this season.
Quote from: junior white on January 25, 2021, 11:14:44 AM
Cant see us loaning anyone, unless we make someone permanent or send back a loaner as don't we have to many now so one has to miss out on game days? For some reason i think it is 5 in a match day squad.
Loans we have are
Areola
Andersen
Aina
Lotus Cheek
Lemina
Lookman
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 25, 2021, 12:51:02 PMMaybe he left out the "F" 'cos it reminded him of that other lot down the road that play in blue.....but with hoops....Quote from: junior white on January 25, 2021, 11:14:44 AM
Cant see us loaning anyone, unless we make someone permanent or send back a loaner as don't we have to many now so one has to miss out on game days? For some reason i think it is 5 in a match day squad.
Loans we have are
Areola
Andersen
Aina
Lotus Cheek
Lemina
Lookman
I know we have Loftus Cheek but now we seem to have added Lotus Cheek. Hope Tony doesn't try to sign Cheek & Chong. :005:
Quote from: Jules on January 25, 2021, 03:49:45 PM
https://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/parker-expects-at-least-two-departures-at-fulham-and-possibly-no-arrivals
I hope this isn't true!!!
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on January 25, 2021, 04:40:22 PMThere has been several stories/rumours about this. Just search Sirkiri Dembele Fulham and they all pop up. None from particularly reliable sources from what I have seen. Cant find it now but read somewhere earlier Celtic are interested (his brother is there) but us, Forest and another prem team were readying bids.
Source please?
Quote from: Riversider on January 25, 2021, 04:30:57 PM
Has this been reported on here, were apparently in for Peterborough winger Siriki Dembele.
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on January 25, 2021, 04:40:22 PM
Source please?
Quote from: Tooting legend on January 25, 2021, 04:56:23 PM
Fulham 'readying bid for Dembele'
Fulham are among a number of clubs preparing an offer for in-demand Peterborough forward Siriki Dembele, according to reports this afternoon.
Football Insider claims that the Whites, Sheffield United and Nottingham Forest are all keen on signing the 24-year-old, who submitted a transfer request earlier this month. Dembele, who can operate as a conventional striker or on either wing, has scored six goals in twenty appearances for the League One side this season and has been a longstanding Fulham target.
Celtic are also keen on reuniting Dembele
Quote from: davew on January 25, 2021, 06:24:19 PM
Anybody with a surname of Dembele or Kamara are usually great players! There are a few exceptions though!
Quote from: Jeroen on January 24, 2021, 01:23:44 PM
Any idea how much the compensation would be? Could help us with our FFP - on that note, and I know it's a dead horse..... what about our Liverpool compensation - if it is around 8-10M than this actually has a massive impact on our current transfer window and FFP.
Quote from: WolverineFFC on January 25, 2021, 10:55:35 PMQuote from: Jeroen on January 24, 2021, 01:23:44 PM
Any idea how much the compensation would be? Could help us with our FFP - on that note, and I know it's a dead horse..... what about our Liverpool compensation - if it is around 8-10M than this actually has a massive impact on our current transfer window and FFP.
Does compensation still occur since he has been out of contract for so long? Over 6 months, correct?
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 25, 2021, 10:59:34 PMQuote from: WolverineFFC on January 25, 2021, 10:55:35 PMQuote from: Jeroen on January 24, 2021, 01:23:44 PM
Any idea how much the compensation would be? Could help us with our FFP - on that note, and I know it's a dead horse..... what about our Liverpool compensation - if it is around 8-10M than this actually has a massive impact on our current transfer window and FFP.
Does compensation still occur since he has been out of contract for so long? Over 6 months, correct?
Yep it's a development fee as he's an academy product, it'll be peanuts as MK Dons aren't really minted, but it'll be something.
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 25, 2021, 11:50:23 PM
I hope we are all over this for 2m
https://readsouthampton.com/2021/01/25/southampton-fans-urge-saints-to-make-demarai-gray-bid-as-valuation-revealed/
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 26, 2021, 12:34:27 AM
RW on loan? https://www.football-espana.net/2021/01/20/barcelona-running-out-of-patience-with-big-money-signing
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 26, 2021, 12:34:27 AM
RW on loan? https://www.football-espana.net/2021/01/20/barcelona-running-out-of-patience-with-big-money-signing
Quote from: Craven Mad on January 26, 2021, 07:02:21 AM
I don't think we'll be able to convince someone like Trincao to join us. But no doubt it'd be a great signing if we could
Quote from: FFC In Oz on January 26, 2021, 07:29:57 AMQuote from: Craven Mad on January 26, 2021, 07:02:21 AM
I don't think we'll be able to convince someone like Trincao to join us. But no doubt it'd be a great signing if we could
On a loan deal with no optional/future fee clauses?
I think Barca would prefer him to get first team football, he's still only around 20
Quote from: Jeroen on January 26, 2021, 10:51:45 AMGoing to West Ham/Brom
Lingard anyone? (We prob have to make Lemina perm or send him back)
Quote from: Denzil Dexter on January 26, 2021, 10:54:04 AMQuote from: Jeroen on January 26, 2021, 10:51:45 AMGoing to West Ham/Brom
Lingard anyone? (We prob have to make Lemina perm or send him back)
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Quote from: Twig on January 26, 2021, 10:37:53 AMhttps://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/2202053/fulham-to-move-for-koumas
Can we please, please have a solid transfer rumour? Come on TK let's see a bit of action!
Quote from: f321ffc on January 26, 2021, 11:28:56 AMQuote from: Twig on January 26, 2021, 10:37:53 AMhttps://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/2202053/fulham-to-move-for-koumas
Can we please, please have a solid transfer rumour? Come on TK let's see a bit of action!
Quote from: Jeroen on January 26, 2021, 11:16:20 AMI'd take him. I'd take anyone who can score goals at this levelQuote from: Denzil Dexter on January 26, 2021, 10:54:04 AMQuote from: Jeroen on January 26, 2021, 10:51:45 AMGoing to West Ham/Brom
Lingard anyone? (We prob have to make Lemina perm or send him back)
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Hijack it, surely we don't want a striker of his potential to go to West Brom!?!? (When we are apparently struggling to find options)
Would he be better than most other options available? (Within budget)
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on January 26, 2021, 11:45:26 AMQuote from: f321ffc on January 26, 2021, 11:28:56 AMQuote from: Twig on January 26, 2021, 10:37:53 AMhttps://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/2202053/fulham-to-move-for-koumas
Can we please, please have a solid transfer rumour? Come on TK let's see a bit of action!
Hope we get this over the line
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on January 26, 2021, 11:45:26 AMQuote from: f321ffc on January 26, 2021, 11:28:56 AMQuote from: Twig on January 26, 2021, 10:37:53 AMhttps://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/2202053/fulham-to-move-for-koumas
Can we please, please have a solid transfer rumour? Come on TK let's see a bit of action!
Hope we get this over the line
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 26, 2021, 12:22:24 PMI'd rather discover a young French striker a bit like ......Louis Saha bet he wouldd get 15-20 a season in this team.
How I would love to have had John Aldridge in his prime playing for us now
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 26, 2021, 12:20:25 PMQuote from: Finnans Right Peg on January 26, 2021, 11:45:26 AMQuote from: f321ffc on January 26, 2021, 11:28:56 AMQuote from: Twig on January 26, 2021, 10:37:53 AMhttps://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/2202053/fulham-to-move-for-koumas
Can we please, please have a solid transfer rumour? Come on TK let's see a bit of action!
Hope we get this over the line
It must be a very wide line.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2021, 05:47:18 PM
Obviously no rumours then.
This getting our signings done early,now looks like a rather silly statement....But we live in
hope of a striker coming in🤔
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2021, 05:47:18 PMWatch the Parker interview, unless he is bluffing we are not bringing any one in. So lets hope Mitro or Kamara can come good and shut this tread down.
Obviously no rumours then.
This getting our signings done early,now looks like a rather silly statement....But we live in
hope of a striker coming in🤔
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on January 26, 2021, 06:52:17 PMQuote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2021, 05:47:18 PM
Obviously no rumours then.
This getting our signings done early,now looks like a rather silly statement....But we live in
hope of a striker coming in🤔
I think Scotty mean't early before this coming weekend Mince
First get Stef Jo out on loan to QPR then Seri tomorrow or Thursday leaving the necessary space for 2 new signings before close of play Friday
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2021, 05:47:18 PM
Obviously no rumours then.
This getting our signings done early,now looks like a rather silly statement....But we live in
hope of a striker coming in🤔
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2021, 08:13:14 PM
It would be pretty criminal for a club to send players out but not bring in a position we are in desperate need of. I'm holding on to faith that common sense will prevail.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2021, 08:13:14 PM
It would be pretty criminal for a club to send players out but not bring in a position we are in desperate need of. I'm holding on to faith that common sense will prevail.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2021, 08:44:59 PM
I'm not suggesting the players who are going would have offered anything, just that we're doing business in the window just not where we need. I'm all for fringe/non playing players getting game time elsewhere, I just don't like seeing players leaving with no players coming in. Players leaving would normally be to open up finances to bring people in and for younger players, to get experience. The two points aren't as related as I think some think I meant. That might be as I worded it poorly.
Quote from: Statto on January 26, 2021, 10:26:44 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on January 26, 2021, 08:44:59 PM
I'm not suggesting the players who are going would have offered anything, just that we're doing business in the window just not where we need. I'm all for fringe/non playing players getting game time elsewhere, I just don't like seeing players leaving with no players coming in. Players leaving would normally be to open up finances to bring people in and for younger players, to get experience. The two points aren't as related as I think some think I meant. That might be as I worded it poorly.
Surely you've learned by now that the way the transfer window works is you can sell players in the middle of the window, but you can't buy them until the very last moment. It's a basic rule we always follow and which I'm told applies equally to every club.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on January 26, 2021, 10:31:29 PM
I am pre preparing to eat my hat if we don't sign a forward.Salt and pepper obviously any other recommendations?
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 01:20:05 AM
A "True Disaster" would be to bring in a striker that is "too expensive to get relegated with" and "yet cannot keep us up". I'm sure Tony Khan has avoided signing many such strikers so far, so many expensive players that won't deliver.
Finding a "cheap striker to keep us up" isn't easy; plus let's be honest such a striker would be talking to Brighton, WBA, Newcastle, and Burnley as well, and as I doubt FFC is his best option; I don't assume we will win the race to sign him.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 26, 2021, 10:19:41 PM
Looks like we've had an official bid of 12m knocked back for Nzola
Quote from: LC on January 27, 2021, 03:02:18 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 01:20:05 AM
A "True Disaster" would be to bring in a striker that is "too expensive to get relegated with" and "yet cannot keep us up". I'm sure Tony Khan has avoided signing many such strikers so far, so many expensive players that won't deliver.
Finding a "cheap striker to keep us up" isn't easy; plus let's be honest such a striker would be talking to Brighton, WBA, Newcastle, and Burnley as well, and as I doubt FFC is his best option; I don't assume we will win the race to sign him.
Why wouldn't we be the players 'best option'? Are you saying you would rather play for Burnley or WBA? Brighton are a smaller club than us without a doubt but I could understand a player going to Newcastle over us, but in all fairness we can certainly compete with any of those clubs.
Quote from: Arthur on January 27, 2021, 03:04:41 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 26, 2021, 10:19:41 PM
Looks like we've had an official bid of 12m knocked back for Nzola
With time running out, this seems to be our best (only?) hope of a signing. We've made a bid. We could go back with another.
It depends, perhaps, on whether the report that Spezia don't want to sell actually means they will sell if we make a high offer. In such circumstances, our opening bid is always going to be declined because the selling club will be trying to extract the maximum they can from us. It might take a couple of incremental bids before Spezia can see we have reached our limit.
On the other hand, of course, Spezia may simply have made it clear they will not be selling their man for any price we might be able to afford.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 04:08:25 AMQuote from: Arthur on January 27, 2021, 03:04:41 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 26, 2021, 10:19:41 PMWith time running out, this seems to be our best (only) hope of a signing. We've made a bid. We could go back with another.
Looks like we've had an official bid of 12m knocked back for Nzola
It depends, perhaps, on whether the report that Spezia don't want to sell actually means they will sell if we make a high offer. In such circumstances, our opening bid is always going to be declined because the selling club will be trying to extract the maximum they can from us. It might take a couple of incremental bids before Spezia can see we have reached our limit.
On the other hand, of course, Spezia may simply have made it clear they will not be selling their man for any price we might be able to afford.
Let's be clear reading the accounts and FFP laws, we can afford to pay around £35m for a striker, which is a lot more than £12m required to buy a striker like Nzola so we can bid higher. While FFP allows us to spend £35m on a five contract, if we spend that much and don't stay up, the dreaded double relegation is probably unavoidable. Alternatively, if we spend nothing relegation is not a certainty and if we go down coming back up is likely.
Instead of buying a new striker, I believe the DOF, should spend this season's remaining money writing down the book value of Fabri, Mawson, MLM, Seri, and Knockaert to their correct values to reduce our future amortization's costs.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 27, 2021, 04:40:30 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 04:08:25 AMQuote from: Arthur on January 27, 2021, 03:04:41 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 26, 2021, 10:19:41 PMWith time running out, this seems to be our best (only) hope of a signing. We've made a bid. We could go back with another.
Looks like we've had an official bid of 12m knocked back for Nzola
It depends, perhaps, on whether the report that Spezia don't want to sell actually means they will sell if we make a high offer. In such circumstances, our opening bid is always going to be declined because the selling club will be trying to extract the maximum they can from us. It might take a couple of incremental bids before Spezia can see we have reached our limit.
On the other hand, of course, Spezia may simply have made it clear they will not be selling their man for any price we might be able to afford.
Let's be clear reading the accounts and FFP laws, we can afford to pay around £35m for a striker, which is a lot more than £12m required to buy a striker like Nzola so we can bid higher. While FFP allows us to spend £35m on a five contract, if we spend that much and don't stay up, the dreaded double relegation is probably unavoidable. Alternatively, if we spend nothing relegation is not a certainty and if we go down coming back up is likely.
Instead of buying a new striker, I believe the DOF, should spend this season's remaining money writing down the book value of Fabri, Mawson, MLM, Seri, and Knockaert to their correct values to reduce our future amortization's costs.
Putting the future to one side for the moment, how about considering the present for a change. As there is a small matter of avoiding relegation. Which would save Fulham an awful lot of trouble and financial headache. Which would be caused by relegation. To accumulate you need to speculate, and for the price of one striker who does not need a Sat Nav to find the onion bag whereupon we would get our money back if we stayed up. That should not be too difficult should it and financially astute.
Since they had the best part of six months to find a forward assuming he was on the top of their shopping list in the first place, or are they still sleep walking around to find yet another defender.
Or perhaps as an alternative they should first of all find a competent D of F with the knowledge and ability to identify and successfully negotiate a deal to sign a striker,
I mean we have so much time on our side, the best part of five days.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 05:24:59 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 27, 2021, 04:40:30 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 04:08:25 AMQuote from: Arthur on January 27, 2021, 03:04:41 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 26, 2021, 10:19:41 PMWith time running out, this seems to be our best (only) hope of a signing. We've made a bid. We could go back with another.
Looks like we've had an official bid of 12m knocked back for Nzola
It depends, perhaps, on whether the report that Spezia don't want to sell actually means they will sell if we make a high offer. In such circumstances, our opening bid is always going to be declined because the selling club will be trying to extract the maximum they can from us. It might take a couple of incremental bids before Spezia can see we have reached our limit.
On the other hand, of course, Spezia may simply have made it clear they will not be selling their man for any price we might be able to afford.
Let's be clear reading the accounts and FFP laws, we can afford to pay around £35m for a striker, which is a lot more than £12m required to buy a striker like Nzola so we can bid higher. While FFP allows us to spend £35m on a five contract, if we spend that much and don't stay up, the dreaded double relegation is probably unavoidable. Alternatively, if we spend nothing relegation is not a certainty and if we go down coming back up is likely.
Instead of buying a new striker, I believe the DOF, should spend this season's remaining money writing down the book value of Fabri, Mawson, MLM, Seri, and Knockaert to their correct values to reduce our future amortization's costs.
Putting the future to one side for the moment, how about considering the present for a change. As there is a small matter of avoiding relegation. Which would save Fulham an awful lot of trouble and financial headache. Which would be caused by relegation. To accumulate you need to speculate, and for the price of one striker who does not need a Sat Nav to find the onion bag whereupon we would get our money back if we stayed up. That should not be too difficult should it and financially astute.
Since they had the best part of six months to find a forward assuming he was on the top of their shopping list in the first place, or are they still sleep walking around to find yet another defender.
Or perhaps as an alternative they should first of all find a competent D of F with the knowledge and ability to identify and successfully negotiate a deal to sign a striker,
I mean we have so much time on our side, the best part of five days.
If we hire a competent DOF that is correctly able to value Seri's current book value, then he would lower Seri's book value (and others) to less than £1m which would trigger FFP losses, and bingo we cannot buy players.
In a great irony, a competent DOF would have to at a minimum "write off the deadwood"; and not bring in anyone at all. An incompetent DOF could leave Seri's book value at £10m, so he can spend on a striker instead.
Tony Khan is deciding if he should be a "competent DOF" reporting the correct "book value of players" hurting us this season but helping us next season, or "incompetent DOF" incorrectly reporting the book value of players so he can be bringing in that extra striker that would help us this season and hurt us next season.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 27, 2021, 05:30:53 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 05:24:59 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 27, 2021, 04:40:30 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 04:08:25 AMQuote from: Arthur on January 27, 2021, 03:04:41 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 26, 2021, 10:19:41 PMWith time running out, this seems to be our best (only) hope of a signing. We've made a bid. We could go back with another.
Looks like we've had an official bid of 12m knocked back for Nzola
It depends, perhaps, on whether the report that Spezia don't want to sell actually means they will sell if we make a high offer. In such circumstances, our opening bid is always going to be declined because the selling club will be trying to extract the maximum they can from us. It might take a couple of incremental bids before Spezia can see we have reached our limit.
On the other hand, of course, Spezia may simply have made it clear they will not be selling their man for any price we might be able to afford.
Let's be clear reading the accounts and FFP laws, we can afford to pay around £35m for a striker, which is a lot more than £12m required to buy a striker like Nzola so we can bid higher. While FFP allows us to spend £35m on a five contract, if we spend that much and don't stay up, the dreaded double relegation is probably unavoidable. Alternatively, if we spend nothing relegation is not a certainty and if we go down coming back up is likely.
Instead of buying a new striker, I believe the DOF, should spend this season's remaining money writing down the book value of Fabri, Mawson, MLM, Seri, and Knockaert to their correct values to reduce our future amortization's costs.
Putting the future to one side for the moment, how about considering the present for a change. As there is a small matter of avoiding relegation. Which would save Fulham an awful lot of trouble and financial headache. Which would be caused by relegation. To accumulate you need to speculate, and for the price of one striker who does not need a Sat Nav to find the onion bag whereupon we would get our money back if we stayed up. That should not be too difficult should it and financially astute.
Since they had the best part of six months to find a forward assuming he was on the top of their shopping list in the first place, or are they still sleep walking around to find yet another defender.
Or perhaps as an alternative they should first of all find a competent D of F with the knowledge and ability to identify and successfully negotiate a deal to sign a striker,
I mean we have so much time on our side, the best part of five days.
If we hire a competent DOF that is correctly able to value Seri's current book value, then he would lower Seri's book value (and others) to less than £1m which would trigger FFP losses, and bingo we cannot buy players.
In a great irony, a competent DOF would have to at a minimum "write off the deadwood"; and not bring in anyone at all. An incompetent DOF could leave Seri's book value at £10m, so he can spend on a striker instead.
Tony Khan is deciding if he should be a "competent DOF" reporting the correct "book value of players" hurting us this season but helping us next season, or "incompetent DOF" incorrectly reporting the book value of players so he can be bringing in that extra striker that would help us this season and hurt us next season.
I shall try and get back asap once I find an interpreter. I should make yourself comfortable as I could be quite a while.
Quote from: FulhamStu on January 27, 2021, 08:54:39 AM
I am going to repeat myself because nobody has really picked up on a previous post, signing a striker does NOT guarantee anything other than putting the club in more financial difficulty, and by financial I mean FFP.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 04:08:25 AM
Let's be clear reading the accounts and FFP laws, we can afford to pay around £35m for a striker
Quote from: Statto on January 27, 2021, 09:30:11 AMQuote from: FulhamStu on January 27, 2021, 08:54:39 AM
I am going to repeat myself because nobody has really picked up on a previous post, signing a striker does NOT guarantee anything other than putting the club in more financial difficulty, and by financial I mean FFP.
That's very true and nobody is saying we should not sign a striker, it's just complicated.
You can say that about any signing Stu. Why bother signing anyone ever?
Quote from: FFC In Oz on January 27, 2021, 10:28:17 AM
Meanwhile, WBA are showing that it is possible to get a decent striker in January, bringing in Mbaye Diagne from Galatasaray.
Looks like we will be enjoying Cav up front for the rest of the season.
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on January 27, 2021, 10:30:56 AMQuote from: FFC In Oz on January 27, 2021, 10:28:17 AM
Meanwhile, WBA are showing that it is possible to get a decent striker in January, bringing in Mbaye Diagne from Galatasaray.
Looks like we will be enjoying Cav up front for the rest of the season.
Maybe we could send Seri and hijack the deal
Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on January 27, 2021, 10:30:56 AMQuote from: FFC In Oz on January 27, 2021, 10:28:17 AM
Meanwhile, WBA are showing that it is possible to get a decent striker in January, bringing in Mbaye Diagne from Galatasaray.
Looks like we will be enjoying Cav up front for the rest of the season.
Maybe we could send Seri and hijack the deal
Quote from: FFC In Oz on January 27, 2021, 10:28:17 AM
Meanwhile, WBA are showing that it is possible to get a decent striker in January, bringing in Mbaye Diagne from Galatasaray.
Looks like we will be enjoying Cav up front for the rest of the season.
Quote from: Jeroen on January 27, 2021, 10:47:33 AMQuote from: FFC In Oz on January 27, 2021, 10:28:17 AM
Meanwhile, WBA are showing that it is possible to get a decent striker in January, bringing in Mbaye Diagne from Galatasaray.
Looks like we will be enjoying Cav up front for the rest of the season.
If that is the case it either means;
- we have money and are going after a much better target
- we are totally incompetent
He is exactly what we need with a decent record and have seri make-weight, hence we either look at much better options or have no clue what we are doing
Quote from: jayffc on January 27, 2021, 11:37:15 AM
Seems they've signed him now.
Imagine the melt down on here if he scores against us and WBA win 🤣
Sounds like theres alot to the FFP stuff that were not all completely getting our head around. Would make sense given Scott's comments that it's difficult. Wish I understood the books enough to make sense of it objectively but big decisions to be made by the board if true, as case of wether we go all in with our chips and pray for survival- at risk of completely falling apart if it fails. Or play it safe and hope for the best this season without reinforcements and keep us in a position to bounce back if it doesnt work out. Eesh
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 27, 2021, 11:45:04 AMQuote from: jayffc on January 27, 2021, 11:37:15 AM
Seems they've signed him now.
Imagine the melt down on here if he scores against us and WBA win 🤣
Sounds like theres alot to the FFP stuff that were not all completely getting our head around. Would make sense given Scott's comments that it's difficult. Wish I understood the books enough to make sense of it objectively but big decisions to be made by the board if true, as case of wether we go all in with our chips and pray for survival- at risk of completely falling apart if it fails. Or play it safe and hope for the best this season without reinforcements and keep us in a position to bounce back if it doesnt work out. Eesh
I don't think we can just lean on FFP as an excuse to potentially not signing someone. If reports are true, we put a £11m (12m euros I think) for Nzola so we either aren't interested and are looking at other targets or we lost out on this one a while back with his interested clearly elsewhere from Fulham. Or, you're correct and FFP is crippling us and turned down bids are just a smokescreen to pretend we tried....The Ashley tactic as I believe its known.
If FFP is the issue, it does also show that maybe our DoF or powers that be overpaid on barely upper level championship quality players like Knockaert etc. and we really are in a hole. I know Statto and a few others are more clued up here but I just can't imagine a situation where we couldn't spend around £15m on a striker with a buy out relegation clause.
Quote from: FFC1987 on January 27, 2021, 11:45:04 AMQuote from: jayffc on January 27, 2021, 11:37:15 AM
Seems they've signed him now.
Imagine the melt down on here if he scores against us and WBA win 🤣
Sounds like theres alot to the FFP stuff that were not all completely getting our head around. Would make sense given Scott's comments that it's difficult. Wish I understood the books enough to make sense of it objectively but big decisions to be made by the board if true, as case of wether we go all in with our chips and pray for survival- at risk of completely falling apart if it fails. Or play it safe and hope for the best this season without reinforcements and keep us in a position to bounce back if it doesnt work out. Eesh
I don't think we can just lean on FFP as an excuse to potentially not signing someone. If reports are true, we put a £11m (12m euros I think) for Nzola so we either aren't interested and are looking at other targets or we lost out on this one a while back with his interested clearly elsewhere from Fulham. Or, you're correct and FFP is crippling us and turned down bids are just a smokescreen to pretend we tried....The Ashley tactic as I believe its known.
If FFP is the issue, it does also show that maybe our DoF or powers that be overpaid on barely upper level championship quality players like Knockaert etc. and we really are in a hole. I know Statto and a few others are more clued up here but I just can't imagine a situation where we couldn't spend around £15m on a striker with a buy out relegation clause.
Quote from: sarnian on January 27, 2021, 12:22:37 PM
In truth very few deals being done. Has FFP hit a lot of clubs including us. It seems strange to me that premiership champions Liverpool who have been desperate to sign at least one centre back since early in the season through injuries cannot go out there and afford to buy someone.
Quote from: Gezza on January 27, 2021, 12:59:28 PM
From what I can see there have ben a grand total of 4 signings by Premier League clubs so far this window !
Quote from: Statto on January 27, 2021, 01:01:40 PMStill a low number for a January window, i guess half expected because of the situation.Quote from: Gezza on January 27, 2021, 12:59:28 PM
From what I can see there have ben a grand total of 4 signings by Premier League clubs so far this window !
From the PL's own page it's 11 and we know several more are very close
Quote from: Statto on January 27, 2021, 01:01:40 PMQuote from: Gezza on January 27, 2021, 12:59:28 PM
From what I can see there have ben a grand total of 4 signings by Premier League clubs so far this window !
From the PL's own page it's 11 and we know several more are very close
Quote from: Riversider on January 27, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
It's just my own personal view but I think tonight is pivotal for transfer business,
Lose,and there's no point in throwing good money after bad, win or draw and I think they will roll the dice,
For me this is the biggest game of the season by some distance, with that in mind, why Anguissa was playing against Burnley at the weekend, I have absolutely no idea, made no sense whatsoever.
West Ham to better Fulham bid for Spezia striker Mbala Nzola #ffc #whufc https://t.co/hdJIGykB5r
— Tribal Football (@tribalfootball) January 27, 2021
Quote from: Riversider on January 27, 2021, 02:02:30 PMWin 6-0 tonight with hat tricks from Kamara and Mitro and we will conclude we have no need for a new striker.
It's just my own personal view but I think tonight is pivotal for transfer business,
Lose,and there's no point in throwing good money after bad, win or draw and I think they will roll the dice,
For me this is the biggest game of the season by some distance, with that in mind, why Anguissa was playing against Burnley at the weekend, I have absolutely no idea, made no sense whatsoever.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 05:38:37 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 27, 2021, 05:30:53 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 05:24:59 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 27, 2021, 04:40:30 AMQuote from: The Rational Fan on January 27, 2021, 04:08:25 AMQuote from: Arthur on January 27, 2021, 03:04:41 AMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 26, 2021, 10:19:41 PMWith time running out, this seems to be our best (only) hope of a signing. We've made a bid. We could go back with another.
Looks like we've had an official bid of 12m knocked back for Nzola
It depends, perhaps, on whether the report that Spezia don't want to sell actually means they will sell if we make a high offer. In such circumstances, our opening bid is always going to be declined because the selling club will be trying to extract the maximum they can from us. It might take a couple of incremental bids before Spezia can see we have reached our limit.
On the other hand, of course, Spezia may simply have made it clear they will not be selling their man for any price we might be able to afford.
Let's be clear reading the accounts and FFP laws, we can afford to pay around £35m for a striker, which is a lot more than £12m required to buy a striker like Nzola so we can bid higher. While FFP allows us to spend £35m on a five contract, if we spend that much and don't stay up, the dreaded double relegation is probably unavoidable. Alternatively, if we spend nothing relegation is not a certainty and if we go down coming back up is likely.
Instead of buying a new striker, I believe the DOF, should spend this season's remaining money writing down the book value of Fabri, Mawson, MLM, Seri, and Knockaert to their correct values to reduce our future amortization's costs.
Putting the future to one side for the moment, how about considering the present for a change. As there is a small matter of avoiding relegation. Which would save Fulham an awful lot of trouble and financial headache. Which would be caused by relegation. To accumulate you need to speculate, and for the price of one striker who does not need a Sat Nav to find the onion bag whereupon we would get our money back if we stayed up. That should not be too difficult should it and financially astute.
Since they had the best part of six months to find a forward assuming he was on the top of their shopping list in the first place, or are they still sleep walking around to find yet another defender.
Or perhaps as an alternative they should first of all find a competent D of F with the knowledge and ability to identify and successfully negotiate a deal to sign a striker,
I mean we have so much time on our side, the best part of five days.
If we hire a competent DOF that is correctly able to value Seri's current book value, then he would lower Seri's book value (and others) to less than £1m which would trigger FFP losses, and bingo we cannot buy players.
In a great irony, a competent DOF would have to at a minimum "write off the deadwood"; and not bring in anyone at all. An incompetent DOF could leave Seri's book value at £10m, so he can spend on a striker instead.
Tony Khan is deciding if he should be a "competent DOF" reporting the correct "book value of players" hurting us this season but helping us next season, or "incompetent DOF" incorrectly reporting the book value of players so he can be bringing in that extra striker that would help us this season and hurt us next season.
I shall try and get back asap once I find an interpreter. I should make yourself comfortable as I could be quite a while.
FFP is highly confusing, most of the comments of FOF show very little understanding of how it works over a rolling three year cycle and more importantly how a DOF best positions a club to do well under it. Once someone understands how FFP works, they will soon realize Tony Khan is a much better DOF than most fans give him credit for.
Quote from: Riversider on January 27, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
It's just my own personal view but I think tonight is pivotal for transfer business,
Lose,and there's no point in throwing good money after bad, win or draw and I think they will roll the dice,
For me this is the biggest game of the season by some distance, with that in mind, why Anguissa was playing against Burnley at the weekend, I have absolutely no idea, made no sense whatsoever.
Quote from: JoelH5 on January 27, 2021, 03:53:50 PMQuote from: Riversider on January 27, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
It's just my own personal view but I think tonight is pivotal for transfer business,
Lose,and there's no point in throwing good money after bad, win or draw and I think they will roll the dice,
For me this is the biggest game of the season by some distance, with that in mind, why Anguissa was playing against Burnley at the weekend, I have absolutely no idea, made no sense whatsoever.
Spot on imo. And from the players side. No point coming here unless we win tonight.
Quote from: Riversider on January 27, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
It's just my own personal view but I think tonight is pivotal for transfer business,
Lose,and there's no point in throwing good money after bad, win or draw and I think they will roll the dice,
For me this is the biggest game of the season by some distance, with that in mind, why Anguissa was playing against Burnley at the weekend, I have absolutely no idea, made no sense whatsoever.
Quote from: Barrett487 on January 27, 2021, 10:03:48 PM
REPORT: LIVERPOOL-LINKED 'EXCELLENT DEFENDER' AVAILABLE FOR £9M; FULHAM JOIN THE RACE
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/01/27/report-liverpool-linked-excellent-defender-available-for-9m-fulham-join-the-race/
Fulham are interested in signing Napoli defender Nikola Maksimovic, with Il Mattino reporting that the Serbia international is free to leave for £9 million.
Of course, with Gennaro Gattuso's side fighting to secure a return to the Champions League this season, the Partenopei would prefer to keep hold of their commanding 29-year-old centre-back.
Especially when you consider that Maksimovic has started six of the last seven Serie A games.
But, with his contract expiring in July, Napoli's hands are tied.
The 2020 Coppa Italia champions have refused to meet Maksimovic's demands of a new £35,000-a-week deal and this has opened the door for a number of Premier League clubs
Quote from: Twig on January 27, 2021, 10:22:37 PMQuote from: Barrett487 on January 27, 2021, 10:03:48 PM
REPORT: LIVERPOOL-LINKED 'EXCELLENT DEFENDER' AVAILABLE FOR £9M; FULHAM JOIN THE RACE
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/01/27/report-liverpool-linked-excellent-defender-available-for-9m-fulham-join-the-race/
Fulham are interested in signing Napoli defender Nikola Maksimovic, with Il Mattino reporting that the Serbia international is free to leave for £9 million.
Of course, with Gennaro Gattuso's side fighting to secure a return to the Champions League this season, the Partenopei would prefer to keep hold of their commanding 29-year-old centre-back.
Especially when you consider that Maksimovic has started six of the last seven Serie A games.
But, with his contract expiring in July, Napoli's hands are tied.
The 2020 Coppa Italia champions have refused to meet Maksimovic's demands of a new £35,000-a-week deal and this has opened the door for a number of Premier League clubs
Just what we need right now, a defender.
Quote from: mancwhite on January 27, 2021, 09:31:15 PM
Absolutely no control in midfield - need more than just a striker need someone to pass the ball to them. I'm not sure what the timescale is with Cairney but we desperately miss someone of his ilk. Struggling to see us beating West Brom based on that tonight
Quote from: Plodder on January 27, 2021, 01:51:55 PM
Konstantinos Mitroglou has signed for Greek club Aris, so that's another top striker who has escaped us. Somewhat tongue in cheek on my part, but I do genuinely find it hard to understand how it was that he played only three games for us and achieved nothing, whereas at other clubs (whether on loan from us, from another club or permanent) his goal scoring rate is top notch (181 goals in 400 appearances). I have a feeling Seri is a similar case - hasn't done much for us, but will flourish elsewhere, for no apparent reason.
Quote from: Brawn on January 28, 2021, 02:20:10 AMQuote from: Plodder on January 27, 2021, 01:51:55 PM
Konstantinos Mitroglou has signed for Greek club Aris, so that's another top striker who has escaped us. Somewhat tongue in cheek on my part, but I do genuinely find it hard to understand how it was that he played only three games for us and achieved nothing, whereas at other clubs (whether on loan from us, from another club or permanent) his goal scoring rate is top notch (181 goals in 400 appearances). I have a feeling Seri is a similar case - hasn't done much for us, but will flourish elsewhere, for no apparent reason.
A lot of players flop here but have big successes before and after their time here, in recent years, which leads me to think there is something fundamentally wrong with the club off the field. Even Mawson is currently playing brilliantly for Bristol, but I'd also throw open the fact that Fulham "rejects" Richard Stearman, Dan Burn, and Ollie Norwood were all in the PL last season and we weren't.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 28, 2021, 02:54:59 AM
For example, MLM has won three of his last six premier league starts, yet he was replaced several times (with at least 5-6 players ahead of him now) and now those replacements haven't won any of their last six premier league games.
Quote from: Arthur on January 28, 2021, 05:24:45 AMMLM is past his sell by date, and hate to say this so is reammmm cause I've backed Tim on boards like this, but there time is up. The future is tosun and Anderson.Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 28, 2021, 02:54:59 AM
For example, MLM has won three of his last six premier league starts, yet he was replaced several times (with at least 5-6 players ahead of him now) and now those replacements haven't won any of their last six premier league games.
This statistic might have some validity if the MLM's six games had immediately preceded our last six. But they don't. Moreover, in five of MLM's last six P.L. games, his centre-back partner has been Ream. (In the other, it was Mawson and we conceded 4.) In which case, if you're arguing in favour of MLM, surely you're arguing for Ream to partner him.
Are you claiming, therefore, that had we played all season with MLM and Ream as our centre-backs, we'd be doing better than we have done with Andersen and Tosin? What, then, about our goalkeeper? Areola hasn't won any of his last six either. Should we be trying to bring back Rico before the transfer deadline?
What if I remind you that Mitrovic has failed to score in his last six starts, but that Joe Bryan has two goals in his last six. Does this statistic tell Parker he would do better to put Bryan up front and leave Mitrovic on the bench this Saturday?
I think your sample of games is too small. Also, the ten different players in our starting line-up back then to our starting XI tonight is too great. I don't think the data suggests the conclusion you are implying.
Quote from: AJW48361 on January 28, 2021, 12:16:58 AM
What about Lookman.
Quote from: fulhamross on January 28, 2021, 08:34:03 AM
The longer Reams hair gets the worse he is
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 28, 2021, 12:54:14 PM
West Brom have agreed a loan-to-buy deal for Celta Vigo midfielder Okay Yokuslu.
Quote from: bencher on January 28, 2021, 01:04:15 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 28, 2021, 12:54:14 PM
West Brom have agreed a loan-to-buy deal for Celta Vigo midfielder Okay Yokuslu.
Is he any good?...
Quote from: Sting of the North on January 28, 2021, 01:07:04 PMQuote from: bencher on January 28, 2021, 01:04:15 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 28, 2021, 12:54:14 PM
West Brom have agreed a loan-to-buy deal for Celta Vigo midfielder Okay Yokuslu.
Is he any good?...
He's okay
Quote from: Sting of the North on January 28, 2021, 01:07:04 PMQuote from: bencher on January 28, 2021, 01:04:15 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 28, 2021, 12:54:14 PM
West Brom have agreed a loan-to-buy deal for Celta Vigo midfielder Okay Yokuslu.
Is he any good?...
He's okay
Quote from: bencher on January 28, 2021, 01:43:21 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on January 28, 2021, 01:07:04 PMQuote from: bencher on January 28, 2021, 01:04:15 PMQuote from: DevonFFC on January 28, 2021, 12:54:14 PM
West Brom have agreed a loan-to-buy deal for Celta Vigo midfielder Okay Yokuslu.
Is he any good?...
He's okay
I laid it on a plate for you
Quote from: copthornemike on January 28, 2021, 01:35:15 PM
WBA apparently have agreed a loan for Mbaye Diagne, a Galatasay striker who has scored 11 from 18 games this season (so in form) and the medical is being carried out inTurkey.
Now a certain Mr Seri is of interest to Galatasaray - and we should be looking for a striker who knows how to score!
Quote from: Jeroen on January 28, 2021, 04:41:30 PMOr perhaps he isnt the type of player, have the right personality or something else for the team or to match our needs.Quote from: copthornemike on January 28, 2021, 01:35:15 PM
WBA apparently have agreed a loan for Mbaye Diagne, a Galatasay striker who has scored 11 from 18 games this season (so in form) and the medical is being carried out inTurkey.
Now a certain Mr Seri is of interest to Galatasaray - and we should be looking for a striker who knows how to score!
I said this earlier, if there is no money for a striker we should have been all over this to make it a cheap option to strengthen!
My only conclusion is that we are looking at better options (or we are incompetent as sh/t)
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on January 28, 2021, 06:41:41 PMYou may have answered your own question there Steven...😝👍⚽️⚽️
What has happened to the guy that had good inside information that turned out to be pretty reliable? I know Statto pi$$ed him off big time so I expect he's got the hump a bit but having said that, if nothing is happening what is there to report on!
Quote from: Jeroen on January 28, 2021, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 28, 2021, 08:49:43 PMFredericks has agreed to a 50% pay cut!
Looks like lingard is joining West Ham.... how an they afford his wages???
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 28, 2021, 08:49:43 PMWould guess they are not paying it all
Looks like lingard is joining West Ham.... how an they afford his wages???
?s=21New talks today between Bordeaux & Fulham didn't result in a total agreement for a loan of Jean Michaël Seri, as much as the French side were hoping for a positive outcome - the Premier League side have tried to include Josh Maja in a deal, according to L'Équipe. More tomorrow.
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Quote from: Southcoastffc on January 28, 2021, 11:35:00 PM
Josh Maja scored when Sunderland beat us 1 nil, immediately before our 24 game unbeaten run under Slav I think?
Quote from: Deeping_white on January 28, 2021, 11:30:50 PM?s=21New talks today between Bordeaux & Fulham didn't result in a total agreement for a loan of Jean Michaël Seri, as much as the French side were hoping for a positive outcome - the Premier League side have tried to include Josh Maja in a deal, according to L'Équipe. More tomorrow.
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We want to bring Josh Maja home in a swap for Seri
Quote from: bencher on January 29, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
As soon as I saw the link to Bordeaux I looked up the forwards in their squad to see which dud we would try to add to the deal; Maja was the obvious candidate. I haven't see too much of him but I doubt he is the answer to our problems.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 29, 2021, 07:38:21 AMQuote from: bencher on January 29, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
As soon as I saw the link to Bordeaux I looked up the forwards in their squad to see which dud we would try to add to the deal; Maja was the obvious candidate. I haven't see too much of him but I doubt he is the answer to our problems.
I don't know anything about him, but I recall a seeing lot of scepticism about bringing in Lookman and look how that turned out.
Quote from: JoelH5 on January 29, 2021, 08:52:36 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 29, 2021, 07:38:21 AMQuote from: bencher on January 29, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
As soon as I saw the link to Bordeaux I looked up the forwards in their squad to see which dud we would try to add to the deal; Maja was the obvious candidate. I haven't see too much of him but I doubt he is the answer to our problems.
I don't know anything about him, but I recall a seeing lot of scepticism about bringing in Lookman and look how that turned out.
Josh Maja is the old Sunderland striker from the documentary
Quote from: Whitestone on January 29, 2021, 09:15:21 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on January 29, 2021, 08:52:36 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 29, 2021, 07:38:21 AMQuote from: bencher on January 29, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
As soon as I saw the link to Bordeaux I looked up the forwards in their squad to see which dud we would try to add to the deal; Maja was the obvious candidate. I haven't see too much of him but I doubt he is the answer to our problems.
I don't know anything about him, but I recall a seeing lot of scepticism about bringing in Lookman and look how that turned out.
Josh Maja is the old Sunderland striker from the documentary
Josh Maja is a 22 year old Londoner who was on the books at Fulham as a youth player. He made his name whilst at Sunderland in League 1 and featured heavily in the Netflix documentary Sunderland Til I Die. He looked decent from what I saw and secured a move to Bordeaux as his contract was running down and he didn't want to resign with Sunderland. At the time I thought he'd be a good option for us as a Championship side. He was scoring goals for fun. Could be worth a gamble considering our current position and he is a centre forward.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 29, 2021, 07:38:21 AMQuote from: bencher on January 29, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
As soon as I saw the link to Bordeaux I looked up the forwards in their squad to see which dud we would try to add to the deal; Maja was the obvious candidate. I haven't see too much of him but I doubt he is the answer to our problems.
I don't know anything about him, but I recall a seeing lot of scepticism about bringing in Lookman and look how that turned out.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 29, 2021, 10:13:47 AM
West Brom and West Ham also linked with Maja
Quote from: Whitestone on January 29, 2021, 09:15:21 AMQuote from: JoelH5 on January 29, 2021, 08:52:36 AMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 29, 2021, 07:38:21 AMQuote from: bencher on January 29, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
As soon as I saw the link to Bordeaux I looked up the forwards in their squad to see which dud we would try to add to the deal; Maja was the obvious candidate. I haven't see too much of him but I doubt he is the answer to our problems.
I don't know anything about him, but I recall a seeing lot of scepticism about bringing in Lookman and look how that turned out.
Josh Maja is the old Sunderland striker from the documentary
Josh Maja is a 22 year old Londoner who was on the books at Fulham as a youth player. He made his name whilst at Sunderland in League 1 and featured heavily in the Netflix documentary Sunderland Til I Die. He looked decent from what I saw and secured a move to Bordeaux as his contract was running down and he didn't want to resign with Sunderland. At the time I thought he'd be a good option for us as a Championship side. He was scoring goals for fun. Could be worth a gamble considering our current position and he is a centre forward.
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on January 29, 2021, 11:19:37 AMThere must be an issue keeping clubs away from him. Cannot understand why not already snapped up. No for me.
Daniel sturidge anyone 31 years old? Could play on the counter. No risk till the end of season?
Fulham & Bordeaux set for another day of talks to conclude loan of 29-year-old midfielder Jean Michaël Seri - Premier League side tried to include Josh Maja in negotiations, but the 2 sides have now agreed to negotiate each case as a separate deal. https://t.co/l48Zz4uYew
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Quote from: Jimmy Hill on January 29, 2021, 11:19:37 AM
Daniel sturidge anyone 31 years old? Could play on the counter. No risk till the end of season?
Quote from: Tempest on January 29, 2021, 11:39:23 AMQuote from: Jimmy Hill on January 29, 2021, 11:19:37 AMThere must be an issue keeping clubs away from him. Cannot understand why not already snapped up. No for me.
Daniel sturidge anyone 31 years old? Could play on the counter. No risk till the end of season?
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Quote from: Friendsoffulham on January 29, 2021, 11:44:20 AMFulham & Bordeaux set for another day of talks to conclude loan of 29-year-old midfielder Jean Michaël Seri - Premier League side tried to include Josh Maja in negotiations, but the 2 sides have now agreed to negotiate each case as a separate deal. https://t.co/l48Zz4uYew
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Quote from: cmg on January 29, 2021, 02:53:42 PM
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Fulham & Bordeaux set for another day of talks to conclude loan of 29-year-old midfielder Jean Michaël Seri - Premier League side tried to include Josh Maja in negotiations, but the 2 sides have now agreed to negotiate each case as a separate deal."
I translate this as: "They get Seri. We don't get Maja."
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Fulham & Bordeaux set for another day of talks to conclude loan of 29-year-old midfielder Jean Michaël Seri - Premier League side tried to include Josh Maja in negotiations, but the 2 sides have now agreed to negotiate each case as a separate deal."
Quote from: cmg on January 29, 2021, 02:53:42 PMSeparate but at the same time in different rooms or one after the other. If one after the other which one first.
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Fulham & Bordeaux set for another day of talks to conclude loan of 29-year-old midfielder Jean Michaël Seri - Premier League side tried to include Josh Maja in negotiations, but the 2 sides have now agreed to negotiate each case as a separate deal."
I translate this as: "They get Seri. We don't get Maja."
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 29, 2021, 07:38:21 AMQuote from: bencher on January 29, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
As soon as I saw the link to Bordeaux I looked up the forwards in their squad to see which dud we would try to add to the deal; Maja was the obvious candidate. I haven't see too much of him but I doubt he is the answer to our problems.
I don't know anything about him, but I recall a seeing lot of scepticism about bringing in Lookman and look how that turned out.
Quote from: sunburywhite on January 29, 2021, 03:51:47 PM
I will check out incoming planes at Farnborough
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on January 29, 2021, 03:48:07 PMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 29, 2021, 07:38:21 AMQuote from: bencher on January 29, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
As soon as I saw the link to Bordeaux I looked up the forwards in their squad to see which dud we would try to add to the deal; Maja was the obvious candidate. I haven't see too much of him but I doubt he is the answer to our problems.
I don't know anything about him, but I recall a seeing lot of scepticism about bringing in Lookman and look how that turned out.
Exactly this, the amount of people saying we shouldn't be touching Woodman with a barge pole was unbelievable
Maja unbelievably has just turned 22, personally don't think in all honesty, he's what we really want, but he's young enough to crack on with his career & get better. Could be a complete dud or a shrewd signing
Quote from: Bracken White on January 29, 2021, 05:14:20 PMI thought sky said 4pm but i thought that time was weird
Closes at 11pm on Monday.
Quote from: Twig on January 29, 2021, 04:44:53 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on January 29, 2021, 03:48:07 PMQuote from: Mitrovic the warrior on January 29, 2021, 07:38:21 AMQuote from: bencher on January 29, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
As soon as I saw the link to Bordeaux I looked up the forwards in their squad to see which dud we would try to add to the deal; Maja was the obvious candidate. I haven't see too much of him but I doubt he is the answer to our problems.
I don't know anything about him, but I recall a seeing lot of scepticism about bringing in Lookman and look how that turned out.
Exactly this, the amount of people saying we shouldn't be touching Woodman with a barge pole was unbelievable
Maja unbelievably has just turned 22, personally don't think in all honesty, he's what we really want, but he's young enough to crack on with his career & get better. Could be a complete dud or a shrewd signing
Out of interest who is Woodman? Have I missed something?
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 29, 2021, 07:48:17 PMWhat about quarantine.....or does that not exist in the Midlands???😉👍
New striker from Galatasaray can start for West Brom tomorrow - his registration was made in time
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 29, 2021, 07:48:17 PMDidn't we refuse to let Seri move to Gala in the summer over money? Probably explains why hes gone to WBA! Last minute winner written all over it.
New striker from Galatasaray can start for West Brom tomorrow - his registration was made in time
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on January 29, 2021, 08:13:16 PMDon't think its just there, i am surprised it doesnt apply. But i guess the is an allowance for elite sportspeople, however i did think that had been rescindedQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on January 29, 2021, 07:48:17 PMWhat about quarantine.....or does that not exist in the Midlands???😉👍
New striker from Galatasaray can start for West Brom tomorrow - his registration was made in time
Quote from: twang on January 29, 2021, 08:10:10 PM
Maja on the bench for Bordeaux tonight.
Quote from: Riversider on January 30, 2021, 08:58:56 PM
Despite what Parker has said tonight I still think Josh Maja will be joining us on Monday.
Quote from: jayffc on January 30, 2021, 10:00:04 PM
The fact that we reportedly wanted to make the Maja deal happen alongside this but that then became 2 separate negotiations suggests to me that we're a long way from getting him in too.
Only current strong rumours were him or the N'zolo . Seems odd if true that we bidded 10+ mil but wouldnt be able to bring anyone in. Are we right to assume that if someone hasn't been brought in from Europe by now that we're unlikely to get the work permits in time given the current brexit legislation? Or are there loopholes for that?
Deary oh dear. Fingers firmly crossed for some movement
Quote from: jayffc on January 30, 2021, 10:00:04 PMDidnt Scott say in an interview before the game we ar next in for Nzola? Seem to remember something like that
The fact that we reportedly wanted to make the Maja deal happen alongside this but that then became 2 separate negotiations suggests to me that we're a long way from getting him in too.
Only current strong rumours were him or the N'zolo . Seems odd if true that we bidded 10+ mil but wouldnt be able to bring anyone in. Are we right to assume that if someone hasn't been brought in from Europe by now that we're unlikely to get the work permits in time given the current brexit legislation? Or are there loopholes for that?
Deary oh dear. Fingers firmly crossed for some movement
Quote from: filham on January 31, 2021, 05:25:12 PMDoesn't really leave space for an incoming as neither were in the 25 man Premier League squad. SP has an issue if he wants Onomah in there as he will need to drop someone from it as it stands, same for any new incoming. I assume Hector, Ream le Marchand and Odoi are at risk
Well Stefjo and Seri have moved on with loans until the end of the season, has that left room for an incoming player and is their time left for TK to come up with a good deal. Just tomorrow left now, what are the chances of a new signing, pretty low I would think.
Quote from: filham on January 31, 2021, 05:25:12 PM
Well Stefjo and Seri have moved on with loans until the end of the season, has that left room for an incoming player and is their time left for TK to come up with a good deal. Just tomorrow left now, what are the chances of a new signing, pretty low I would think.
Quote from: junior white on January 31, 2021, 05:46:21 PMQuote from: filham on January 31, 2021, 05:25:12 PMDoesn't really leave space for an incoming as neither were in the 25 man Premier League squad. SP has an issue if he wants Onomah in there as he will need to drop someone from it as it stands, same for any new incoming. I assume Hector, Ream le Marchand and Odoi are at risk
Well Stefjo and Seri have moved on with loans until the end of the season, has that left room for an incoming player and is their time left for TK to come up with a good deal. Just tomorrow left now, what are the chances of a new signing, pretty low I would think.
Quote from: The Rock on January 31, 2021, 10:08:06 PM
52 pages. A waste of a thread. When was the last time we didn't make a Jan signing?
Quote from: The Rock on January 31, 2021, 10:08:06 PM
52 pages. A waste of a thread. When was the last time we didn't make a Jan signing?
