The Official Silly Season January Transfer Thread 2020/21

[The Rational Fan]

The media reports are that Tosin's transfer fee is very low around £1.5m

Here are media reports that it was £8m

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12850666/fulham-adarabioyo-transfer-man-city/
https://www.90min.com/posts/fulham-sign-tosin-adarabioyo-man-city-permanent-deal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8805723/Fulham-pushing-sign-Chelsea-midfielder-Ruben-Loftus-Cheek-loan.html

Ultimately we'll never know and people can believe what they want. What's irrefutable is that he'd just had a good season with Blackburn, performing around the same standard (statistically) as Hector was performing for us, back at the time we were all raving about Hector being an excellent Championship defender and able to make the step up to the PL. So clearly his market value was much higher than £1.5m, much more like £8m, and I find it hard to believe Man City would have accepted such a low bid as £1.5m, even if he did only have one year on his contract. It's not like a Fredericks situation where they wouldn't have been able to match whatever wages we were offering him and persuade him to renew.

Nothing is clear about Tosin transfer value, unless you also know Tosin's current wages. Mesut Özil is worth less in a transfer fee than Hector, because Ozil's wages are so high and Hector's are low.

[HillingdonFFC]

The media reports are that Tosin's transfer fee is very low around £1.5m

Here are media reports that it was £8m

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12850666/fulham-adarabioyo-transfer-man-city/
https://www.90min.com/posts/fulham-sign-tosin-adarabioyo-man-city-permanent-deal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8805723/Fulham-pushing-sign-Chelsea-midfielder-Ruben-Loftus-Cheek-loan.html

Ultimately we'll never know and people can believe what they want. What's irrefutable is that he'd just had a good season with Blackburn, performing around the same standard (statistically) as Hector was performing for us, back at the time we were all raving about Hector being an excellent Championship defender and able to make the step up to the PL. So clearly his market value was much higher than £1.5m, much more like £8m, and I find it hard to believe Man City would have accepted such a low bid as £1.5m, even if he did only have one year on his contract. It's not like a Fredericks situation where they wouldn't have been able to match whatever wages we were offering him and persuade him to renew.

Nothing is clear about Tosin transfer value, unless you also know Tosin's current wages. Mesut Özil is worth less in a transfer fee than Hector, because Ozil's wages are so high and Hector's are low.

I don't know where they got that from, in the Manchester papers it was 2m plus 20% sell on. It was all over the Man City messageboards too about why are they selling him & why so cheap?

[The Rational Fan]

The most important signing is getting Ademola Lookman signed until 2024, with agreement to spend at least one season in the Championship if required. He'll boost our promotion chances enormously, and help avoid relegation.

[Statto]

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Tosin cost £2m up front plus £2m after 20, 40 and 60 appearances and a 20% sell-on clause, or something like that, and all the papers are just reporting the same thing differently.

I also agree with the post above that it's a moot point. Whether it was £2m or £8m, it was still a bargain, but doesn't change the original point made that a reliable, PL quality player like we need this month is much more likely to cost £20m+ (like Anderson and Lookman will) than whatever Tosin cost. So we may need to do something creative to get around that, but it's not obvious how/what we can do.

[colinwhite]

Unless we are prepared to pay 20 mill plus its going to be difficult to upgrade on what  we already have.

[FFC1987]

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Tosin cost £2m up front plus £2m after 20, 40 and 60 appearances and a 20% sell-on clause, or something like that, and all the papers are just reporting the same thing differently.

I also agree with the post above that it's a moot point. Whether it was £2m or £8m, it was still a bargain, but doesn't change the original point made that a reliable, PL quality player like we need this month is much more likely to cost £20m+ (like Anderson and Lookman will) than whatever Tosin cost. So we may need to do something creative to get around that, but it's not obvious how/what we can do.

That's kinda the point isn't it. I'd be happy with how he's performed if they said he was a £12m investment. As mentioned his short length of contract is probably why fee was low but I do agree, that usually means he gets a nice sign on fee and higher wages.

I still think we can find some added quality to this squad without necessarily needing to break the bank but again, we'll see.

[DevonFFC]

Unless we are prepared to pay 20 mill plus its going to be difficult to upgrade on what  we already have.

The market is going to be slow and teams are not going to want to let go of players unless it is of a particular benefit.

We need to be looking to clubs who are in financial difficulties or the scouts earn their crust and find who has low buy out clauses.

[Maidstone Lee]

#Benfica will consider a move for Jean Seri if they cant get William Carvalho from #RealBetis. Talks between #fulhamfc + #galatasaray have hit a wall over loan fee #ffc https://t.co/OzHTtF6aQx

— Lyall Thomas (@SkySportsLyall) January 15, 2021

[We Are Premier League]

MLM to little Brentford on loan? Jansson is out for the season.

[Craven Mad]

MLM to little Brentford on loan? Jansson is out for the season.

This would be good for everyone. MLM has definitely grown on me, but he's nowhere near the squad right now.

Maybe they'll throw us Toney in return! Ha

[Jeroen]

So West Brom is after the Galatasaray striker who seems highly rated. (Admitingly I don't know anything about him)
Should we use Seri as a negotiation tool: either seri in exchange deal or offer seri on a cheap loan but the condition that they don't sell their striker to West Brom (is this even allowed)

[DevonFFC]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11698/12188721/mbaye-diagne-west-brom-looking-into-loan-deal-for-galatasaray-striker

[AnOldBrownie]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11698/12188721/mbaye-diagne-west-brom-looking-into-loan-deal-for-galatasaray-striker

LOL...how are West Brom going to convince Mbaye to come to their side???   I'm sure his agent would say NO.   He would say NO.    That leaves Galatasary to want to give up their starting striker midway through the season and rely on who?

Once again...I highly doubt this.

Now, West Brom trying to get Ryan Babel I can see, but we have way more to offer Galatasary than bloody West Brom.

[Denzil Dexter]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11698/12188721/mbaye-diagne-west-brom-looking-into-loan-deal-for-galatasaray-striker

LOL...how are West Brom going to convince Mbaye to come to their side???   I'm sure his agent would say NO.   He would say NO.    That leaves Galatasary to want to give up their starting striker midway through the season and rely on who?

Once again...I highly doubt this.

Now, West Brom trying to get Ryan Babel I can see, but we have way more to offer Galatasary than bloody West Brom.

Babel seems to have a lot of love for FFC. I'm sure if Scott wants him he'll come. We'll be getting a last minute loan or 2 the way things are looking in the market.

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[General]

I know this is a very divisive call and perhaps not possible due to wages and people saying he'd be disruptive but Diego Costa is available on a free and has clauses in his severance contract that he can't play for a competitor of athletico or for a champions league team. Must be worth a half season approach. He'd be prolific for the half season, we'd put him in the shop window and guarantee survival and buy a new striker in the summer.

[Woolly Mammoth]

I know this is a very divisive call and perhaps not possible due to wages and people saying he'd be disruptive but Diego Costa is available on a free and has clauses in his severance contract that he can't play for a competitor of athletico or for a champions league team. Must be worth a half season approach. He'd be prolific for the half season, we'd put him in the shop window and guarantee survival and buy a new striker in the summer.

I know he plays on the edge and may be a slight risk, but in the absence of anyone else better I would not be against it as we certainly need reinforcements up front if we are to improve goals scored substantially enough to win games.

[Denzil Dexter]

I know this is a very divisive call and perhaps not possible due to wages and people saying he'd be disruptive but Diego Costa is available on a free and has clauses in his severance contract that he can't play for a competitor of athletico or for a champions league team. Must be worth a half season approach. He'd be prolific for the half season, we'd put him in the shop window and guarantee survival and buy a new striker in the summer.

Why not. We're a big physical team now according to the pundits. He'd fit in nicely [emoji1360][emoji23]

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[Somerset Fulham]

So not the pacey striker that everybody has been wanging on about then...

[love4ffc]

QPR winger Bright Osayi-Samuel has agreed a pre-contract with Fenerbahce and will join on a four-year contract this summer. There is a chance it could this month if they can agree a deal. Won't be the last London-based midfielder who confirms a move to Fener this month...

— Graeme Bailey (@GraemeBailey) January 15, 2021

Maked me wonder what other London player might be looking to move to Fenerbahce?  Possible Fulhamplayers?  Kmac, Stef Jo, Seri or even Ak?

[JimOG]

QPR winger Bright Osayi-Samuel has agreed a pre-contract with Fenerbahce and will join on a four-year contract this summer. There is a chance it could this month if they can agree a deal. Won't be the last London-based midfielder who confirms a move to Fener this month...

— Graeme Bailey (@GraemeBailey) January 15, 2021

Maked me wonder what other London player might be looking to move to Fenerbahce?  Possible Fulhamplayers?  Kmac, Stef Jo, Seri or even Ak?

Ozil we presume