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The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

Started by Friendsoffulham, May 21, 2021, 03:23:46 PM

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grandad

Anguissa will  be a key player for us. We don´t need to sell him. He will be a beast in the Championship. People need to get off his back.
Where there's a will there's a wife

FFCFOREVER

Quote from: grandad on August 04, 2021, 05:05:30 PM
Anguissa will  be a key player for us. We don´t need to sell him. He will be a beast in the Championship. People need to get off his back.
Not really. He did nothing in Prem other than lose the ball on numerous occasions, no goals, no goal threat and no assists. What makes you think he will set the Championship alight? Its not the easiest of leagues. Cash in I say and put the money to better use. This of course is my humble opinion

FFCFOREVER

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Re Muniz, all we needed to do was send the paperwork over with. Proviso of subject to a fully healthy medical and get it signed like most other clubs do.

As for is he any good does anyone know? I'm not disparaging just wondering

Should we send the paperwork over before or after we've found out if he's any good or not?
Lol. If Silva wants him then they should back him, if it goes pear shaped its a lesson learned and Silva will know, if they dont back him then he will rightly be pissed off if it is his call to sign the player.

So send it now (should have been done ages ago) lock it up on the proviso as i say
Totally agreed


Jules

Quote from: grandad on August 04, 2021, 05:05:30 PM
Anguissa will  be a key player for us. We don´t need to sell him. He will be a beast in the Championship. People need to get off his back.
But if we need to sell at least 1 big name for big bucks to meet FFP. Who would you sell if not Anguissa?

Jules

Quote from: FFCFOREVER on August 04, 2021, 05:12:59 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 04, 2021, 05:05:30 PM
Anguissa will  be a key player for us. We don´t need to sell him. He will be a beast in the Championship. People need to get off his back.
Not really. He did nothing in Prem other than lose the ball on numerous occasions, no goals, no goal threat and no assists. What makes you think he will set the Championship alight? Its not the easiest of leagues. Cash in I say and put the money to better use. This of course is my humble opinion
I agree with you. Overrated and no end product

Twig

Quote from: grandad on August 04, 2021, 05:05:30 PM
Anguissa will  be a key player for us. We don´t need to sell him. He will be a beast in the Championship. People need to get off his back.

"A beast in the Championship". On what basis?


Twig

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Worrying that bids will seemingly now start for Anguissa.

Be brilliant if we can hold onto him but if we can't, we need to sell.

Good we rejected a loan, I don't want to lose him unless it's a good fee.

Cheeky so and so's - didn't even offer a loan fee apparently!

I'm going to be controversal here and say that Frank is even more of a luxury player at Championship level than Premier League level.  If I believed that he was suddenly going to start creating assists and scoring goals, then he would be worth keeping. But I can't see how he will suddenly start doing it after never managing to any stage of his career so far.  In this team, we really do need more goal threat from midfield. Without a fit Cairney, this is not going to be provided by Anguissa or Reed - Francois maybe/maybe not. The only central midfielder we have who scores goals is Onomah and his inability to make an impression in many games means he is an unlikely starter.

If we get offered anything around or above £20m for Frank, then I think we should sell him.
Agreed, and I really don't think he will be a big loss to us. I would love us to get as much as £20m for a midfield player with no goals and just 3 assists in 2 seasons playing for us.

And that's the nub of it isn't it? He's played in different leagues, in different countries, under different managers and in different systems but he has never ever scored goals or delivered assists remotely frequently enough. People see potential in him but he's 25 going on 26 now and we are yet to see that potential blossom into an end result.  I'd love to see him come good but until and unless he does, he's a luxury.

He's not a luxury because of his defensive statistics and his dribbling ability, he's more like Mousa Dembele, he also had poor goal scoring and assist stats, would you say he was a luxury?

His defensive stats and dribbling ability are fine and I agree you could say he is similar in style to Mousa Dembele. However - his goal scoring and assists were still better than Frank's (even more so when he played as a winger for AZ Alkmaar). Frank is a luxury player because we need more players in the team who can provide goals and assists. When Mousa was at the club we had plenty of other players who could do that (Zamora, Murphy, Duff, Davies, Dempsey, AJ, Duff). It was probably one of the main reasons why he moved from the wing to a deeper central role.

Doesn't make him a luxury though as he still offers something to the team.

You don't get points for dribbles with no end result. He has offered relatively little thus far. Not just to us but to Villarreal whilst out on loan too. 

Deeping_white

Quote from: Twig on August 04, 2021, 05:46:25 PM

You don't get points for dribbles with no end result. He has offered relatively little thus far. Not just to us but to Villarreal whilst out on loan too. 

Except you made that up because he played very regularly for them and they offered £20m for him so clearly he impressed them

Jules

Quote from: Deeping_white on August 04, 2021, 05:52:22 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 04, 2021, 05:46:25 PM

You don't get points for dribbles with no end result. He has offered relatively little thus far. Not just to us but to Villarreal whilst out on loan too. 

Except you made that up because he played very regularly for them and they offered £20m for him so clearly he impressed them
We should have snapped their hands off with that offer for him


grandad

Zambo will be our Rambo. Just wait & see. I will  be cheering him on.
Where there's a will there's a wife

Tabby

Just as a point of reference, nobody got many assists last season. Lookman is in first place at 4 and then it is a draw between Mitro and Anguissa at 3.

Doubt he is going to stay seeing as we are signing a load of players and he is the only one I think we could get a decent fee for, but there is a lot of hyperbole about him right now.

Deeping_white

WSW is there anything interesting to report on for any FFC transfers at the moment?


Finnans Right Peg

Big frank flatters to deceive and I honestly think that with ffp we willl have to sell at least one big name .

Go through the players

We must keep tosin so we can build a team around him ,i also think that silva will get a better return from mitro .

If we sell Frank and bring in grimes give francois (who has almost as many assists) plus carv a chance and maybe will Hughes or a surprise signing  then I think we will be bettet off

Woolly Mammoth

We will not miss Zambo he makes very little impact and does not play within the framework of the team, we are better off with any money we can get for him, and get his wages off the bill.
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The Rock

#1074
People aren't going to like this, but I think we should sell TC. He's 30 and crocked and barely played in the past year. I thought we were protecting him for the Championship, but apparently he really has been and still is injured. Reminds me of the great piece of biz we got selling Bullard to Hull for 5m, and he played a half a season and that was it. I actually looked it up, he played 21 games or something and another season at Ipswich. You get the point.


S.F.Sorrow

Quote from: The Rock on August 04, 2021, 07:18:40 PM
People aren't going to like this, but I think we should sell TC. He's 30 and crocked and barely played in the past year. I thought we were protecting him for the Championship, but apparently he really has been and still is injured. Reminds me of the great piece of biz we got selling Bullard to Hull for 5m, and he played a half a season and that was it.

There's the slight problem of the medical... What club would want to buy him or even want him for free with the wages he's on?

The Rock

Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on August 04, 2021, 07:26:39 PM
Quote from: The Rock on August 04, 2021, 07:18:40 PM
People aren't going to like this, but I think we should sell TC. He's 30 and crocked and barely played in the past year. I thought we were protecting him for the Championship, but apparently he really has been and still is injured. Reminds me of the great piece of biz we got selling Bullard to Hull for 5m, and he played a half a season and that was it.

There's the slight problem of the medical... What club would want to buy him or even want him for free with the wages he's on?

Sheffield Utd! Not sure how far off he is to being fit as he's training I think - everyone on here talks about how one main player has to go and TC is rated at £10m so if there is a will perhaps there is a way.

70sPimlico

If only he'd shake his fist, gee up the crowd and run round really fast and fly into tackles like a proper player should. He doesn't do anything meaningful like tackle (more than Harrison, Robinson, Tosin, Anderson) or interceptions (more than basically the whole team) or assists (3rd behind Lookman & Mitro) or successful dribbles (more than whole team) or man of the match (well, he slams that as well.

I listened to a really interesting interview with a few Everton players and they were very open about things. They said that they knew when they were having a stinker and just couldn't get into the match that what they had to do was run like a madman and at least appear to be overly passionate and that would hide a lot with some fans, who would cheer them off.

I think the major issue with Zambo is the coaches who we've had in his time at the club. Just been so p-i-s-s poor.

I think Zambo will never be appreciated by some because of his style of play. We'd rather have Harrison giving his tiger-ish all in the middle of the park. We understand that, we relate to it. But, I'm sure Reed would be the first to admit that Anguissa is in a different league.

People say he doesn't give enough, for some reason completely blind to the fact that he provides more than anyone in the team overall.

We will lose him as we can't afford to buy players without balancing the books. I just hope we get a glimpse of what a coach who knows how to get the best out of our team before that and maybe some of you will ever so slightly change your view


Penfold

Quote from: grandad on August 04, 2021, 05:05:30 PM
Anguissa will  be a key player for us. We don´t need to sell him. He will be a beast in the Championship. People need to get off his back.

Personally would prefer a Houghton. Or Malbranque.

JEEVES

#1079
I reckon between slav coming in for Sheff Utd, and the present. Any and everyone has probably been put off of TC. Despite his injury problems over the years I'm only just now feeling like he's probably done at this point. One of my favourite players for years but the fact he missed so much of last season and still isn't fit for this one.. Who would be dumb enough to spend much money on him now?I

Also when did the club decide to start dressing up injured players and showing them in training like they were fine? thought we had an injury or two and turns out about 5 first team players are injured.