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The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

Started by Friendsoffulham, May 21, 2021, 03:23:46 PM

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Deeping_white

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 04, 2021, 07:13:04 PM
We will not miss Zambo he makes very little impact and does not play within the framework of the team, we are better off with any money we can get for him, and get his wages off the bill.

What exactly is the framework of the team and what doesn't he do to play within it?

JEEVES

If we stayed up I would have liked to of keep Anguissa but don't see his departure as a negative. See him as a valuable asset that we need to sell to finish off a championship winning squad which also doesn't need to fear FFP.  I think selling him would be more beneficial than keeping him. That being said, no way anyone's offering what our owners value him at.



JEEVES

Quote from: mrmicawbers on August 04, 2021, 08:56:11 PM
Keep

Anguissa or.. Grimes, Muniz, Wilson, Gazzaniga? And I don't have a clue about how FFP works it's just a theoretical question.

FFCFOREVER

 :wow:
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 04, 2021, 08:03:33 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 04, 2021, 07:13:04 PM
We will not miss Zambo he makes very little impact and does not play within the framework of the team, we are better off with any money we can get for him, and get his wages off the bill.

What exactly is the framework of the team and what doesn't he do to play within it?
At the end of the day he's never done enough on the pitch to convince me he's worth keeping and if someone offered 20 odd million to take him I would bite their hand off. He loses the ball too much and 2 career goals and 2 career assists in leagues that are considered 'easier' don't warrant that price tag.

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Deeping_white on August 04, 2021, 08:03:33 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 04, 2021, 07:13:04 PM
We will not miss Zambo he makes very little impact and does not play within the framework of the team, we are better off with any money we can get for him, and get his wages off the bill.

What exactly is the framework of the team and what doesn't he do to play within it?

Normally I would charge you a consultation fee for this, but on this occasion you can have this one for free, but just this once only.
Playing within the Framework of the team is an important aspect to cultivating a winning football team. The positive bonds formed between players through teamwork help to improve the performance of the team and sustain camaraderie when losses occur.
Members of a team work together as one in order to win games.
A single players weaknesses are lessoned when he is part of a good team. When players work well together as a group, they form a positive bond that improves team performance.
By contrast players that do not work well together tend to reduce the success of their team. No matter how great a single football player is, it is the efforts of the team as a whole that helps to win games.
The greatest football teams demonstrate phenomenal team work and win championships as a result of unified efforts.
Coaches enjoy working with level headed football players who are willing to "take one for the team."
Every team sport including football emphasises the importance of team work on and off the field. Working together encourages players to maintain a positive attitude towards one another. Success is multiplied through the efforts of a solid team.
When members of the team focus on themselves instead of the team, they can easily lose games to less talented opponents.
Athlete's who respect their team mates form personal and game related alliances that make any football strategy implemented on the field more likely to be effected.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


70sPimlico

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 04, 2021, 09:40:42 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 04, 2021, 08:03:33 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 04, 2021, 07:13:04 PM
We will not miss Zambo he makes very little impact and does not play within the framework of the team, we are better off with any money we can get for him, and get his wages off the bill.

What exactly is the framework of the team and what doesn't he do to play within it?

Normally I would charge you a consultation fee for this, but on this occasion you can have this one for free, but just this once only.
Playing within the Framework of the team is an important aspect to cultivating a winning football team. The positive bonds formed between players through teamwork help to improve the performance of the team and sustain camaraderie when losses occur.
Members of a team work together as one in order to win games.
A single players weaknesses are lessoned when he is part of a good team. When players work well together as a group, they form a positive bond that improves team performance.
By contrast players that do not work well together tend to reduce the success of their team. No matter how great a single football player is, it is the efforts of the team as a whole that helps to win games.
The greatest football teams demonstrate phenomenal team work and win championships as a result of unified efforts.
Coaches enjoy working with level headed football players who are willing to "take one for the team."
Every team sport including football emphasises the importance of team work on and off the field. Working together encourages players to maintain a positive attitude towards one another. Success is multiplied through the efforts of a solid team.
When members of the team focus on themselves instead of the team, they can easily lose games to less talented opponents.
Athlete's who respect their team mates form personal and game related alliances that make any football strategy implemented on the field more likely to be effected.
Copied & pasted (inc errors) from 3 different web sources shows a real passion for BS. Well done you

JEEVES

Quote from: 70sPimlico on August 04, 2021, 10:49:06 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 04, 2021, 09:40:42 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 04, 2021, 08:03:33 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 04, 2021, 07:13:04 PM
We will not miss Zambo he makes very little impact and does not play within the framework of the team, we are better off with any money we can get for him, and get his wages off the bill.

What exactly is the framework of the team and what doesn't he do to play within it?

Normally I would charge you a consultation fee for this, but on this occasion you can have this one for free, but just this once only.
Playing within the Framework of the team is an important aspect to cultivating a winning football team. The positive bonds formed between players through teamwork help to improve the performance of the team and sustain camaraderie when losses occur.
Members of a team work together as one in order to win games.
A single players weaknesses are lessoned when he is part of a good team. When players work well together as a group, they form a positive bond that improves team performance.
By contrast players that do not work well together tend to reduce the success of their team. No matter how great a single football player is, it is the efforts of the team as a whole that helps to win games.
The greatest football teams demonstrate phenomenal team work and win championships as a result of unified efforts.
Coaches enjoy working with level headed football players who are willing to "take one for the team."
Every team sport including football emphasises the importance of team work on and off the field. Working together encourages players to maintain a positive attitude towards one another. Success is multiplied through the efforts of a solid team.
When members of the team focus on themselves instead of the team, they can easily lose games to less talented opponents.
Athlete's who respect their team mates form personal and game related alliances that make any football strategy implemented on the field more likely to be effected.
Copied & pasted (inc errors) from 3 different web sources shows a real passion for BS. Well done you

Elaborate? I'm eatin popcorn over here!



Twig

Quote from: Deeping_white on August 04, 2021, 05:52:22 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 04, 2021, 05:46:25 PM

You don't get points for dribbles with no end result. He has offered relatively little thus far. Not just to us but to Villarreal whilst out on loan too. 

Except you made that up because he played very regularly for them and they offered £20m for him so clearly he impressed them

Err no, read my post properly.  I said he offered relatively little. You on the other hand pretend to know that Villarreal made a firm transfer offer of £20m. Personally I seriously doubt you are ITK on that.  Perhaps you can explain to me what he actually offered to them whilst there?

Twig

Quote from: Tabby on August 04, 2021, 06:26:03 PM
Just as a point of reference, nobody got many assists last season. Lookman is in first place at 4 and then it is a draw between Mitro and Anguissa at 3.

Doubt he is going to stay seeing as we are signing a load of players and he is the only one I think we could get a decent fee for, but there is a lot of hyperbole about him right now.

Fair enough if we were talking one season rather then his senior career to date.

Statto

I assume we're also looking to offload Reed. Because his goals and assists tally in the last couple of years makes Anguissa look like Iniesta.


Sting of the North

It has been explained several times (with stats to back it up) what Anguissa brings to the table. Obviously there are other things than goals and assist that matter. Otherwise maybe we should get rid of Reed as well?

JEEVES

#1093
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 04, 2021, 11:40:00 PM
It has been explained several times (with stats to back it up) what Anguissa brings to the table. Obviously there are other things than goals and assist that matter. Otherwise maybe we should get rid of Reed as well?

You can't compare them in my eyes. In the sense that one is a luxery. the other is a little bulldog all over the gaff nibblin at everyone's toes. Reeds work rate is unreal man he's such a quality little ****** kante I'd be so so gutted if he left and we kept Anguissa. I like both of them but ask me to pick between it's so easy

cmg

Quote from: Twig on August 04, 2021, 11:33:42 PM
  Perhaps you can explain to me what he actually offered to them whilst there?

Somebody was quite impressed with Anguissa.
'Whoscored' published ratings for 300 La Liga players based on game by game ratings.
These are the players ranked 21 to 30.
Just an opinion, of course, however well informed. But not company you would be ashamed of being seen in.


LaLiga Player Statistics
All players
Player      Apps   Mins   Goals   Assists   Yel   Red   SpG   PS%   AerialsWon   MotM   Rating
21Sergio Ramos
Real Madrid, 35, D(CR)   
   7.07
22Sergio Busquets
Barcelona, 33, DMC   
   7.07
23André-Frank Zambo Anguissa
Villarreal, 25, DMC   
       7.06

24Mikel Oyarzabal
Real Sociedad, 24, AM(CLR),FW   
   7.05
25Gerard Piqué
Barcelona, 34, D(C)   
   7.03
26Koke
Atletico, 29, M(CLR)   
   7.02
27Daniel Parejo
Valencia, 32, M(C)   
   7.01
28Luka Modric
Real Madrid, 35, M(C)   
   7.01
29Ferland Mendy
Real Madrid, 26, D(L),M(L)   
   7.01
30José Campaña
Levante, 28, M(CLR)   
   7.00


Texas White

Ladies.......put your handbags away.  I thought this was a transfer thread.

Sting of the North

Quote from: JEEVES on August 04, 2021, 11:55:23 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on August 04, 2021, 11:40:00 PM
It has been explained several times (with stats to back it up) what Anguissa brings to the table. Obviously there are other things than goals and assist that matter. Otherwise maybe we should get rid of Reed as well?

You can't compare them in my eyes. In the sense that one is a luxery. the other is a little bulldog all over the gaff nibblin at everyone's toes. Reeds work rate is unreal man he's such a quality little special one kante I'd be so so gutted if he left and we kept Anguissa. I like both of them but ask me to pick between it's so easy

I didn't compare them actually. I am not the one seemingly believing that a midfielder has to contribute goals and assists in order to be of value to a team. As for Reed, he is a good midfielder although seriously overrated by many on here in my opinion. Just like Anguissa is a good midfielder seriously underrated by many on here. Also in my opinion.

Riversider



bobby01

Well reading all this on frank made me personally think everyone was talking about RLC and then I thought wow RLC got off lightly for last year if this is the assessment of frank.
Watching the ups and downs since 1958, wouldn't have it any other way, what a roller coaster of a club.

colinwhite

Frank is very good on the ball and is cool and measured in his head,when playing the game.. Some mistake this for not putting in the effort or caring,because he doesnt bomb about like Harrison Reed( who always looks like he cares and gives 100 our cent ).
Both types of players are needed in any team ,the passionate runner and the cooler schemer.
Frank put in some very good performances pre covid in the first half of last season,and then found it hard to come back in astruggling team.

He hasnt produced enough assists or goals but has the undoubted potential to do so . I would like him to stay and prove himself to be the player we can all see he could be.