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The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

Started by Friendsoffulham, May 21, 2021, 03:23:46 PM

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RaySmith

One image i have of Frank is him dribbling through defenders, breaking through to the edge of the  area, and in on goal, but then what happened?

So we see his huge talent, and how he is frustrating, in one.

But, of course, noone at Fulham was able to find the back of the net with necessary frequency.

Frank wasn't too effective defensively either.

Reed  was more of a defensive midfield player, who did seem very effective in that role.

But, of course Frank shouldn't just be judged on scoring or creating, but he still  hasn't seemed to fulfil his potential in games - but maybe it can be unlocked by a different manager.

Riversider

Muniz very close to signing,  expect deal to be completed in next 24 hours

Whitestone

Quote from: RaySmith on August 05, 2021, 06:03:48 AM
One image i have of Frank is him dribbling through defenders, breaking through to the edge of the  area, and in on goal, but then what happened?

So we see his huge talent, and how he is frustrating, in one.

But, of course, noone at Fulham was able to find the back of the net with necessary frequency.

Frank wasn't too effective defensively either.

Reed  was more of a defensive midfield player, who did seem very effective in that role.

But, of course Frank shouldn't just be judged on scoring or creating, but he still  hasn't seemed to fulfil his potential in games - but maybe it can be unlocked by a different manager.


Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.


e4b

Quote from: Riversider on August 05, 2021, 07:32:12 AM
Muniz very close to signing,  expect deal to be completed in next 24 hours

Hooray some transfer news on the transfer thread.

Statto

Quote from: Whitestone on August 05, 2021, 07:40:13 AM
Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.

This. The reason is that Reed always looks like he's trying harder and dare I say it, he's English.

Facts Not Fiction

Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 05, 2021, 07:40:13 AM
Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.

This. The reason is that Reed always looks like he's trying harder and dare I say it, he's English.

Honestly, can you name a game where Reed has a "bad game"? Don't think it's ever happened. His role is much simpler than Anguissa's, but he perfects it every game.


junior white

Do we have a thread for discussing Anguissa? Thought this was transfers

sarnian

#1107
Thankfully only a few posts on this board get sidetracked which makes it such a good read whereas on another site every post gets highjacked into a Tony K rant by one particular poster often followed up by his shadow.  049:gif

This is just an observation and not meant as a topic of conversation.

Tabby



Tabby

Hartlepool United are going to take legal action over the signing of Luca Murphy where Fulham paid no compensation fee.

Ians

Quote from: Tabby on August 05, 2021, 11:13:17 AM
Hartlepool United are going to take legal action over the signing of Luca Murphy where Fulham paid no compensation fee.
How would we as a Club feel if this happened to us. If this is true it's surprising and despicable in my opinion.

Twig

Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 05, 2021, 07:40:13 AM
Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.

This. The reason is that Reed always looks like he's trying harder and dare I say it, he's English.

Personally I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with him being English. It's got everything to do with the fact that week in, week out he fufils his role as a defensive centre mid consistently well.  Fulham fans have embraced players from all over the globe so Englishness hasn't been the factor.
Zambo on the other hand rarely fulfils his role as a more attacking centre mid. Yes, he has some decent stats for tackles and intercepts but he's in the side for his attacking contribution and in that key area he's simply failed to deliver.
I think we'd all love to see him succeed, why wouldn't we? But to date, despite his apparent talent, he's just not given us much to enthuse about.

And I'm sorry for another Anguissa post but I felt it important to respond to the suggestion that FFC supporters are biased towards English players.


Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Tabby on August 05, 2021, 11:13:17 AM
Hartlepool United are going to take legal action over the signing of Luca Murphy where Fulham paid no compensation fee.

If it's true good for them.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Tabby

Quote from: Ians on August 05, 2021, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 05, 2021, 11:13:17 AM
Hartlepool United are going to take legal action over the signing of Luca Murphy where Fulham paid no compensation fee.
How would we as a Club feel if this happened to us. If this is true it's surprising and despicable in my opinion.
He went to us for a trial and then forced his way out of the club after coming back and signed for Fulham as a free agent. They are saying that we should pay compensation as they offered him a contract.

For more reading: https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/hartlepool-united-to-take-legal-action-against-fulham-over-controversial-youth-player-transfer-that-left-them-without-any-compensation-3335162

Statto

Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2021, 08:42:28 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 05, 2021, 07:40:13 AM
Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.

This. The reason is that Reed always looks like he's trying harder and dare I say it, he's English.

Honestly, can you name a game where Reed has a "bad game"? Don't think it's ever happened. His role is much simpler than Anguissa's, but he perfects it every game.

I like Reed but the perception of him on this forum is laughable sometimes. Credit where it's due, he was decent last year but in a dismal team/season. First season with us he was bang average, took a while to break into the team then got lengthy injuries. Only came good in the last 10 games which is all everyone remembers. Overall Alfie Mawson made a bigger contribution to that promotion campaign than Reed but no one remembers the start of the season, just the end of it. 


FFCFOREVER

A translated Muniz update:
Fulham agreed with Flamengo to change the documentation to close the purchase of Rodrigo Muniz this Thursday.  The player has even been informed by his representatives of the hit.  Now, it seems, finally, this soap opera is going to end.  https://odia.ig.com.br/esporte/coluna-do-vene/2021/08/6205849-flamengo-e-fulham-aparam-as-arestas-e-ficam-perto-novamente-de-fechar- operation-by-rodrigo-muniz.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=article&utm_campaign=share-article

Lordedmundo

Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2021, 11:40:21 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2021, 08:42:28 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 05, 2021, 07:40:13 AM
Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.

This. The reason is that Reed always looks like he's trying harder and dare I say it, he's English.

Honestly, can you name a game where Reed has a "bad game"? Don't think it's ever happened. His role is much simpler than Anguissa's, but he perfects it every game.

I like Reed but the perception of him on this forum is laughable sometimes. Credit where it's due, he was decent last year but in a dismal team/season. First season with us he was bang average, took a while to break into the team then got lengthy injuries. Only came good in the last 10 games which is all everyone remembers. Overall Alfie Mawson made a bigger contribution to that promotion campaign than Reed but no one remembers the start of the season, just the end of it.

Well not really laughable just because people have a different opinion.  I don't think it is just perception that Reed has been more committed than Anguissa over their respective periods at the club to date. This may be one reason why he has suffered so many injuries.

Nothing wrong with being supportive of Mawson - but I honestly cannot remember him being anything other than an average in all his games for us.  He has never looked 100% fit to me.

Bassey the warrior

Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2021, 11:40:21 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 05, 2021, 08:42:28 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 05, 2021, 07:40:13 AM
Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.

This. The reason is that Reed always looks like he's trying harder and dare I say it, he's English.

Honestly, can you name a game where Reed has a "bad game"? Don't think it's ever happened. His role is much simpler than Anguissa's, but he perfects it every game.

I like Reed but the perception of him on this forum is laughable sometimes. Credit where it's due, he was decent last year but in a dismal team/season. First season with us he was bang average, took a while to break into the team then got lengthy injuries. Only came good in the last 10 games which is all everyone remembers. Overall Alfie Mawson made a bigger contribution to that promotion campaign than Reed but no one remembers the start of the season, just the end of it. 

Reed wasn't bang average the season we got promoted. Granted he took a while to settle in but once he was in he was consistently brilliant. He also finished third in the player of the season award.


S.F.Sorrow

Quote from: Twig on August 05, 2021, 11:22:27 AM
Quote from: Statto on August 05, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on August 05, 2021, 07:40:13 AM
Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.

This. The reason is that Reed always looks like he's trying harder and dare I say it, he's English.

Personally I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with him being English. It's got everything to do with the fact that week in, week out he fufils his role as a defensive centre mid consistently well.  Fulham fans have embraced players from all over the globe so Englishness hasn't been the factor.
Zambo on the other hand rarely fulfils his role as a more attacking centre mid. Yes, he has some decent stats for tackles and intercepts but he's in the side for his attacking contribution and in that key area he's simply failed to deliver.
I think we'd all love to see him succeed, why wouldn't we? But to date, despite his apparent talent, he's just not given us much to enthuse about.

Exactly! They have completely different roles in the team.

Reed has been superb in his role.

Anguissa has been extremely inconsistent. At his best he has looked like a world class player but at his worst he has been a liability. It's almost like there's two different versions of him and you never know which one you're gonna get. It would also be fair to expect more goals/assists from his more attacking role but he's just not a natural goal scorer. His stats seem to suggest that he's better in a more defensive midfield position but we've already tried him in the KMac/Reed role and it was a disaster. KMac/Reed are lacking in pace but both have the abilility to read the game and spot any danger soon enough to deal with it. Anguissa's lack of awareness means can't be trusted as a sole holding midfielder. It seems to me that Anguissa's best position could be as a second DM but we don't set up our team that way.

If he is motivated he SHOULD be one of the best players in the Championship but Silva will have to figure out how to get the best out of him. If not he should be sold. Personally I think he will be sold. We will probably need to sell at least one of our most valuable players to avoid problems with FFP and Anguissa seems like the most likely candidate IMO.

Bassey the warrior

Quote from: Ians on August 05, 2021, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Tabby on August 05, 2021, 11:13:17 AM
Hartlepool United are going to take legal action over the signing of Luca Murphy where Fulham paid no compensation fee.
How would we as a Club feel if this happened to us. If this is true it's surprising and despicable in my opinion.

Agree