The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

[Bassey the warrior]

Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.

This. The reason is that Reed always looks like he's trying harder and dare I say it, he's English.

Personally I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with him being English. It's got everything to do with the fact that week in, week out he fufils his role as a defensive centre mid consistently well.  Fulham fans have embraced players from all over the globe so Englishness hasn't been the factor.
Zambo on the other hand rarely fulfils his role as a more attacking centre mid. Yes, he has some decent stats for tackles and intercepts but he's in the side for his attacking contribution and in that key area he's simply failed to deliver.
I think we'd all love to see him succeed, why wouldn't we? But to date, despite his apparent talent, he's just not given us much to enthuse about.

Exactly! They have completely different roles in the team.

Reed has been superb in his role.

Anguissa has been extremely inconsistent. At his best he has looked like a world class player but at his worst he has been a liability. It's almost like there's two different versions of him and you never know which one you're gonna get. It would also be fair to expect more goals/assists from his more attacking role but he's just not a natural goal scorer. His stats seem to suggest that he's better in a more defensive midfield position but we've already tried him in the KMac/Reed role and it was a disaster. KMac/Reed are lacking in pace but both have the abilility to read the game and spot any danger soon enough to deal with it. Anguissa's lack of awareness means can't be trusted as a sole holding midfielder. It seems to me that Anguissa's best position could be as a second DM but we don't set up our team that way.

If he is motivated he SHOULD be one of the best players in the Championship but Silva will have to figure out how to get the best out of him. If not he should be sold. Personally I think he will be sold. We will probably need to sell at least one of our most valuable players to avoid problems with FFP and Anguissa seems like the most likely candidate IMO.

His best role will be box to box midfielder and given Silva's success with Doucoure I think he can really help Anguissa in that role. I don't think he's ever going to be a regular goalscorer but I've seen enough in his passing to suggest he can get more assists, Silva needs to encourage him to play the ball more progressively and coach the safe passing that Parker encouraged out of him.

[rusty shackleford]

Roma want anguissa

[grandad]

And todays scapegoat is- drum roll- Anguissa.

[Statto]

Reed wasn't bang average the season we got promoted. Granted he took a while to settle in but once he was in he was consistently brilliant. He also finished third in the player of the season award.

First 10 games he got rotated. Then strung 6 starts together before getting injured. Came back, played 3 games then got injured again. Came back again (this is June by now) played seven strong games, then a suspension, then good in the play-offs. As I said, good for the last quarter of the season but hit and miss, and frequently absent, for the bulk of it. Played in less than half our league games overall. Certainly not "consistent".

[Bassey the warrior]

Reed wasn't bang average the season we got promoted. Granted he took a while to settle in but once he was in he was consistently brilliant. He also finished third in the player of the season award.

First 10 games he got rotated. Then strung 6 starts together before getting injured. Came back, played 3 games then got injured again. Came back again (this is June by now) played seven strong games, then a suspension, then good in the play-offs. As I said, good for the last quarter of the season but hit and miss, and frequently absent, for the bulk of it. Played in less than half our league games overall. Certainly not "consistent".

Consistent when he played yes, he was a key player when he was available.

[Bassey the warrior]

Roma want anguissa

Normally I'd say we should ask for £25 million but as it's Mourinho's team, £50 million. Can't stand that man.

[Maidstone Lee]

If we have to sell him to balance the books the so be it unfortunately. I'm not sure he would want to be here playing Championship football.

Wonder if that would mean Seri would stay or if he will be sent away as well.

Catching up with this Muniz situation, my god it's dragging on isn't it. Him and Grimes have been linked for a while...hopefully we can have this wrapped up ASAP.

Not sure if we need to sign anyone else if we can get them through the door? Anyone else agree?

[junior white]

Roma want anguissa

Normally I'd say we should ask for £25 million but as it's Mourinho's team, £50 million. Can't stand that man.

Report in the paper the other day that Roma are skint and need to sell players

[grandad]

Hilda the tea lady has a year left on her contract. Should we let it run down then offer a pay per cup deal.   

[Bassey the warrior]

Roma want anguissa

Normally I'd say we should ask for £25 million but as it's Mourinho's team, £50 million. Can't stand that man.

Report in the paper the other day that Roma are skint and need to sell players

Probably looking for a loan in that case, we should say no.

[Lordedmundo]

Roma want anguissa

Normally I'd say we should ask for £25 million but as it's Mourinho's team, £50 million. Can't stand that man.

Report in the paper the other day that Roma are skint and need to sell players

Probably looking for a loan in that case, we should say no.

Straight swap for Lorenzo Pellegrini? If not - Spinazzola will do  :dft012:

[junior white]

Hilda the tea lady has a year left on her contract. Should we let it run down then offer a pay per cup deal.

About time we cut her adrift, been around for years and is due to retire so let her go and get someone new.

[Tabby]

Roma want anguissa

Normally I'd say we should ask for £25 million but as it's Mourinho's team, £50 million. Can't stand that man.

Report in the paper the other day that Roma are skint and need to sell players

Probably looking for a loan in that case, we should say no.

Straight swap for Lorenzo Pellegrini? If not - Spinazzola will do  :dft012:

Spinazzola would fit our profile seeing as he will spend next season in the physio room.

[simplyfulham]

One image i have of Frank is him dribbling through defenders, breaking through to the edge of the  area, and in on goal, but then what happened?

So we see his huge talent, and how he is frustrating, in one.

But, of course, noone at Fulham was able to find the back of the net with necessary frequency.

Frank wasn't too effective defensively either.

Reed  was more of a defensive midfield player, who did seem very effective in that role.

But, of course Frank shouldn't just be judged on scoring or creating, but he still  hasn't seemed to fulfil his potential in games - but maybe it can be unlocked by a different manager.

Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.

Over the course of their careers, Reed has been roughly 3x more productive in terms of goals+assists then Anguissa when you break it down to minutes they've played.

I don't know for sure but at a guess I'd have thought Frank probably costs Fulham 3x as much as Reed in transfers+wages.

I'm not arguing for either way for those two but I would guess those perceptions play into people judgment when they're being weighed against each other.

Part of the difference in perception also probably comes down to Reed being more disciplined in his positioning as a more traditional 6 type player. But Frank does his best work when given a bit of freedom to break forwards more?

[LittleErn]

Interesting that you mention Reed. He can do no wrong in the eyes of most whilst Anguissa is a bit marmite. Yet when you compare the stats Reed is no better than Anguissa, particularly when comparing assists and goals as many have on threads on this forum. On top of that Reed has an injury history with Anguissa getting more minutes last season and is a much more valuable player in monetary terms.

This. The reason is that Reed always looks like he's trying harder and dare I say it, he's English.

Personally I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with him being English. It's got everything to do with the fact that week in, week out he fufils his role as a defensive centre mid consistently well.  Fulham fans have embraced players from all over the globe so Englishness hasn't been the factor.
Zambo on the other hand rarely fulfils his role as a more attacking centre mid. Yes, he has some decent stats for tackles and intercepts but he's in the side for his attacking contribution and in that key area he's simply failed to deliver.
I think we'd all love to see him succeed, why wouldn't we? But to date, despite his apparent talent, he's just not given us much to enthuse about.

Exactly! They have completely different roles in the team.

Reed has been superb in his role.

Anguissa has been extremely inconsistent. At his best he has looked like a world class player but at his worst he has been a liability. It's almost like there's two different versions of him and you never know which one you're gonna get. It would also be fair to expect more goals/assists from his more attacking role but he's just not a natural goal scorer. His stats seem to suggest that he's better in a more defensive midfield position but we've already tried him in the KMac/Reed role and it was a disaster. KMac/Reed are lacking in pace but both have the abilility to read the game and spot any danger soon enough to deal with it. Anguissa's lack of awareness means can't be trusted as a sole holding midfielder. It seems to me that Anguissa's best position could be as a second DM but we don't set up our team that way.

If he is motivated he SHOULD be one of the best players in the Championship but Silva will have to figure out how to get the best out of him. If not he should be sold. Personally I think he will be sold. We will probably need to sell at least one of our most valuable players to avoid problems with FFP and Anguissa seems like the most likely candidate IMO.

His best role will be box to box midfielder and given Silva's success with Doucoure I think he can really help Anguissa in that role. I don't think he's ever going to be a regular goalscorer but I've seen enough in his passing to suggest he can get more assists, Silva needs to encourage him to play the ball more progressively and coach the safe passing that Parker encouraged out of him.

I'm with you Warrior. His penetrating forward runs draw defenders so if Silva can teach him how to make the pass before he is closed down he will be devastating.

[sunburywhite]

Hilda the tea lady has a year left on her contract. Should we let it run down then offer a pay per cup deal.   

Is her trolley ULEZ compliant?

[Fulham Tup North]

Hilda the tea lady has a year left on her contract. Should we let it run down then offer a pay per cup deal.   

We should only use her for 'Cup matches!! 😉⚽️⚽️👍

[HV71]

If it's pay per cup how much will she urn?

[Fulham Tup North]

Hartlepool United are going to take legal action over the signing of Luca Murphy where Fulham paid no compensation fee.

If it's true good for them.

Absolutely...... we shouldn't be crapping on smaller clubs.... We hated it when Spurs and Liverpool tried to screw us over!
Sides like Hartlepool can only survive by bringing through talent and selling on their best assets.
Grass roots need the support of bigger clubs, not being taken advantage of.
Fairs fair Fulham.... play the game  🤬⚽️⚽️

[Statto]

Hartlepool United are going to take legal action over the signing of Luca Murphy where Fulham paid no compensation fee.

If it's true good for them.

Absolutely...... we shouldn't be crapping on smaller clubs.... We hated it when Spurs and Liverpool tried to screw us over!
Sides like Hartlepool can only survive by bringing through talent and selling on their best assets.
Grass roots need the support of bigger clubs, not being taken advantage of.
Fairs fair Fulham.... play the game  🤬⚽️⚽️

Sorry but does anyone know the facts here or are we just assuming the bigger club did something wrong?

We paid more than we needed to for Robinson which implies we don't mind paying extra to conduct our business in an ethical way.

And we're not one of those clubs that goes around mugging other clubs off. If anything we're generally the mugs, with more money than sense.

Just because Hartlepool are whining it doesn't mean it has any merit.