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Bournemouth crumbling!

Started by Ss12white, November 21, 2021, 01:59:32 PM

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Woolly Mammoth

#60
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 22, 2021, 12:16:41 AM
Quote from: Tabby on November 21, 2021, 05:37:29 PM
Quote from: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on November 21, 2021, 03:33:19 PM
People need to stop getting carried away. Yes the weekend was the best it could possibly be for us, but we have to play them both still. And we play those games in the very near future. Once we have got a result against both sides, we can get carried away. It would be silly to now though.

People said that about West Brom etc. If we show up we will blow any team in the division out of the water, just got to perform as we know we can. Getting a bit tired of the "the next game will be a tough test" refrain.

I think there are still reasons to be cautious about our promotion, at this stage.
  • Firstly, Bournemouth can finish ahead of us and if they luckily beat us twice probably will. If one club goes on a massive winning streak, the team coming second is the potential sacrificial lamb. 
  • Secondly, the championship is weaker than normally so a long winning streak for WBA (or another team) is very possible.
  • Thirdly, the next five games are against Giant Killers (Derby, Preston, Bournemouth, Luton, and Sheffield United).
  • Lastly, we probably need to win 13 out of 23 games away from home to be guaranteed automatic promotion. We currently have won 6 out of 9 easy games, so still have 7 to win out of 12 harder games.

Alternatively, if we win the next five games without major injuries, the above reasons will start to fall like flies. Bournemouth will struggle to finish ahead of us, a team with a winning streak won't catch us, and we only need to win 5 of the remaining 10 away games. I'd like the season effectively over before we play Bournemouth in the 44 games, to give the players more rest and preparation for the premier league, but that is currently a 50/50 chance.

It's all food for thought and if you enjoy debating what is hypothetical and what you are saying does not take into consideration the unexpected, key players getting injured or lose form. Players getting suspended or something Fulhamish happening.
It is preferable to just embrace the next match and enjoy it because you never know what lies ahead.
What your describing is something out of a fantasy football game, all stats and figures in a perfect world with no room for manoeuvre and too predictable.
It hardly ever works out that way otherwise but no longer becomes a competition, how boring is that, where is the satisfaction.
Too much dissecting and not making an allowance for human error, like is though you come from Robot Land.
Just enjoy the journey as each opponent will bring different challenges which you won't find on a computer or a book, only on a football pitch.
Where is the pleasure and satisfaction in your world of numbers statistics and expectations.
We have currently reached the summit, our challenge is to stay there now we have reached the top, keep it ticking over and build on it.
Not raise expectations of what might or might not happen, you know no more than anyone else does, same with me.
Never look too far ahead because by doing so you take your eye off the present.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

perry geyton

Quote from: Tabby on November 21, 2021, 05:37:29 PM
Quote from: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on November 21, 2021, 03:33:19 PM
People need to stop getting carried away. Yes the weekend was the best it could possibly be for us, but we have to play them both still. And we play those games in the very near future. Once we have got a result against both sides, we can get carried away. It would be silly to now though.

People said that about West Brom etc. If we show up we will blow any team in the division out of the water, just got to perform as we know we can.

Getting a bit tired of the "the next game will be a tough test" refrain.

It's a night game, we generally show up for games under the lights

The Rational Fan

#62
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 22, 2021, 12:49:24 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 22, 2021, 12:16:41 AM
Quote from: Tabby on November 21, 2021, 05:37:29 PM
Quote from: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on November 21, 2021, 03:33:19 PM
People need to stop getting carried away. Yes the weekend was the best it could possibly be for us, but we have to play them both still. And we play those games in the very near future. Once we have got a result against both sides, we can get carried away. It would be silly to now though.

People said that about West Brom etc. If we show up we will blow any team in the division out of the water, just got to perform as we know we can. Getting a bit tired of the "the next game will be a tough test" refrain.

I think there are still reasons to be cautious about our promotion, at this stage.
  • Firstly, Bournemouth can finish ahead of us and if they luckily beat us twice probably will. If one club goes on a massive winning streak, the team coming second is the potential sacrificial lamb. 
  • Secondly, the championship is weaker than normally so a long winning streak for WBA (or another team) is very possible.
  • Thirdly, the next five games are against Giant Killers (Derby, Preston, Bournemouth, Luton, and Sheffield United).
  • Lastly, we probably need to win 13 out of 23 games away from home to be guaranteed automatic promotion. We currently have won 6 out of 9 easy games, so still have 7 to win out of 12 harder games.

Alternatively, if we win the next five games without major injuries, the above reasons will start to fall like flies. Bournemouth will struggle to finish ahead of us, a team with a winning streak won't catch us, and we only need to win 5 of the remaining 10 away games. I'd like the season effectively over before we play Bournemouth in the 44 games, to give the players more rest and preparation for the premier league, but that is currently a 50/50 chance.

It's all food for thought and if you enjoy debating what is hypothetical and what you are saying does not take into consideration the unexpected, key players getting injured or lose form. Players getting suspended or something Fulhamish happening.
It is preferable to just embrace the next match and enjoy it because you never know what lies ahead.
What your describing is something out of a fantasy football game, all stats and figures in a perfect world with no room for manoeuvre and too predictable.
It hardly ever works out that way otherwise but no longer becomes a competition, how boring is that, where is the satisfaction.
Too much dissecting and not making an allowance for human error, like is though you come from Robot Land.
Just enjoy the journey as each opponent will bring different challenges which you won't find on a computer or a book, only on a football pitch.
Where is the pleasure and satisfaction in your world of numbers statistics and expectations?
We have currently reached the summit, our challenge is to stay there now we have reached the top, keep it ticking over and build on it.
Not raise expectations of what might or might not happen, you know no more than anyone else does, same with me.
Never look too far ahead because by doing so you take your eye off the present.

As you know, my expectations are always "exceeding low when we are in the premier league" and "very high in the championship" (i.e. yo-yoing). If we win the next five games and other results go our way, then Fulham should start planning for the strategy for 22/23, 23/24, and 24/25 seasons, rather than just having an "eye on the present".

The first priority should be renewing or replacing key players in the winter transfer window, whose contracts are ending immediately at the end of the season such as Christie, Odoi, Hector, Mawson, Ream, Seri, Carvalho, and Kebano.