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Khan’s will be buzzing

Started by RAY Rock ????, January 08, 2024, 08:09:21 PM

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Yorkie_FFC

Once the date is set, hopefully we are sensible with ticketing and prices. It could be a great opportunity to get some "1st timers" hooked with deals on family tickets/adult plus kid and in general lower the threshold. I imagine like Rotherham allocation we will give Newcastle the whole of the Putney End. Although I can see Tottenham vs Man City and Blackburn vs Wrexham potentially being TV games. I wouldn't be surprised if ours turned into one although prefer Sat 3pm

Jims Dentist

Don't think The Met Police will be too chuffed.


bill taylors apprentice

#3
Quote from: Yorkie_FFC on January 08, 2024, 10:59:30 PMOnce the date is set, hopefully we are sensible with ticketing and prices. It could be a great opportunity to get some "1st timers" hooked with deals on family tickets/adult plus kid and in general lower the threshold. I imagine like Rotherham allocation we will give Newcastle the whole of the Putney End. Although I can see Tottenham vs Man City and Blackburn vs Wrexham potentially being TV games. I wouldn't be surprised if ours turned into one although prefer Sat 3pm

Rotherham were entitled to 3,855 tickets as 15 % of capacity and I don't think they sold their full allocation so I don't think we gave them the whole Putney end?
Maybe we just closed off the remaining PE sections as it was the easy option?

As for Newcastle, the PE seats 5,926 (I believe) so the club may take the easy option of giving them the whole end despite them only being entitled to 15% of capacity.

That is 3855 from 25,700 or am I wrong?

EN1 FFC

Another opportunity missed because of the Debacle of the Riverside stand not being finished for 3 seasons.
The club is losing large amounts of revenue because of this failure by the CEO & Owners and the rest of us are suffering, so I doubt the prices will be the same as Rotherham, more likely they will not be any different to what our EPL prices will be @ home to Newcastle, ie: extortionate.

filham

To most on this board the best ever match seen at the Cottage will have been that magnificent  victory over Juventus where we came from behind to beat one of the big European teams on our way to the tournament final.
However great though that match was I need to go way back to 1956 when we entertained Newcastle in the 4th round of the FA Cup and lost 4-5 in spite of a hat trick from the young cheeky Tosh Chamberlin.

The FA Cup in those days was a major tournament and the cup holders were more prestigeous than the league champions, Newcastle were in the top division and were cup holders, they also had many star players including Mitchel a lively winger and Milburn the England center forward. They were expected to score many goals and win comfortably against 2nd Division Fulham.
The Cottage was packed with a gate of 39,000 with only the JH Stand offering cover, the rest of us standing on open terracing.


As expected Newcastle went into an early lead and it looked as if they had the game in their pocket but we hit back and turned the deficit into a lead , we looked as if we could win the match but the turning point came with a controversial Newcastle equaliser. Our keeper Ian Black had risen high to cleanly catch a cross but was bundled into the goal by a lurking striker, Vic Keeble, who made a habit of targeting keepers in this manner. Of course that goal would not be allowed today but back then the keeper was fare game as long as he had his feet on the ground. The debate raged for a ling time as to where Ian's feet were at the moment of impact but the ref gave the goal and Newcastle went on to win.

So for me this match at the end of the month is repeat of that old cup tie with the chance for revenge.
It would be nice if the villian of the day Keeble could at last see his team lose.



Mickeyboro

Quote from: filham on January 09, 2024, 12:52:57 PM.
It would be nice if the villian of the day Keeble could at last see his team lose.



Fascinating story, but Keeble died in 2018!

Fulham Tup North

Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 09, 2024, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: Yorkie_FFC on January 08, 2024, 10:59:30 PMOnce the date is set, hopefully we are sensible with ticketing and prices. It could be a great opportunity to get some "1st timers" hooked with deals on family tickets/adult plus kid and in general lower the threshold. I imagine like Rotherham allocation we will give Newcastle the whole of the Putney End. Although I can see Tottenham vs Man City and Blackburn vs Wrexham potentially being TV games. I wouldn't be surprised if ours turned into one although prefer Sat 3pm

Rotherham were entitled to 3,855 tickets as 15 % of capacity and I don't think they sold their full allocation so I don't think we gave them the whole Putney end?
Maybe we just closed off the remaining PE sections as it was the easy option?

As for Newcastle, the PE seats 5,926 (I believe) so the club may take the easy option of giving them the whole end despite them only being entitled to 15% of capacity.

That is 3885 from 25,700 or am I wrong?


Almost ... 3,855  ::thumb::
"Whether you think you can or you think you can't,....you're right"

btffc

Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 09, 2024, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: Yorkie_FFC on January 08, 2024, 10:59:30 PMOnce the date is set, hopefully we are sensible with ticketing and prices. It could be a great opportunity to get some "1st timers" hooked with deals on family tickets/adult plus kid and in general lower the threshold. I imagine like Rotherham allocation we will give Newcastle the whole of the Putney End. Although I can see Tottenham vs Man City and Blackburn vs Wrexham potentially being TV games. I wouldn't be surprised if ours turned into one although prefer Sat 3pm


Rotherham were entitled to 3,855 tickets as 15 % of capacity and I don't think they sold their full allocation so I don't think we gave them the whole Putney end?
Maybe we just closed off the remaining PE sections as it was the easy option?

As for Newcastle, the PE seats 5,926 (I believe) so the club may take the easy option of giving them the whole end despite them only being entitled to 15% of capacity.

That is 3885 from 25,700 or am I wrong?


I believe for some reason we have to give the entire Putney end to away fans for cup games. I assume it has something to do with not being able to have a proper partition in the entry areas if the stand is split.


filham

Quote from: Mickeyboro on January 09, 2024, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: filham on January 09, 2024, 12:52:57 PM.
It would be nice if the villian of the day Keeble could at last see his team lose.



Fascinating story, but Keeble died in 2018!
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Quote from: Mickeyboro on January 09, 2024, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: filham on January 09, 2024, 12:52:57 PM.
It would be nice if the villian of the day Keeble could at last see his team lose.


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It would be nice if the villian of the day Keeble could at last see his team lose.



Fascinating story, but Keeble died in 2018!

Fascinating story, but Keeble died in 2018!

Oh dear, I have to apologise to any relative of Vic Keeble who I am sure is remembered well by older Newcastle fans.

filham

Quote from: EN1 FFC on January 09, 2024, 11:38:36 AMAnother opportunity missed because of the Debacle of the Riverside stand not being finished for 3 seasons.
The club is losing large amounts of revenue because of this failure by the CEO & Owners and the rest of us are suffering, so I doubt the prices will be the same as Rotherham, more likely they will not be any different to what our EPL prices will be @ home to Newcastle, ie: extortionate.
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Quote from: EN1 FFC on January 09, 2024, 11:38:36 AMAnother opportunity missed because of the Debacle of the Riverside stand not being finished for 3 seasons.
The club is losing large amounts of revenue because of this failure by the CEO & Owners and the rest of us are suffering, so I doubt the prices will be the same as Rotherham, more likely they will not be any different to what our EPL prices will be @ home to Newcastle, ie: extortionate.

With a packed ground and a few goals this could have turned into the match of the season. That huge empty gap in the Riverside stand is going to depress the atmosphere. Some one should be hiding in a corner ashamed of their failure on the stand.

Sammyffc

Quote from: EN1 FFC on January 09, 2024, 11:38:36 AMAnother opportunity missed because of the Debacle of the Riverside stand not being finished for 3 seasons.
The club is losing large amounts of revenue because of this failure by the CEO & Owners and the rest of us are suffering, so I doubt the prices will be the same as Rotherham, more likely they will not be any different to what our EPL prices will be @ home to Newcastle, ie: extortionate.

How is a construction company going bust then being in court with Fulham and Liverpool the fault of the owners and ceo?


filham

Quote from: Sammyffc on January 09, 2024, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: EN1 FFC on January 09, 2024, 11:38:36 AMAnother opportunity missed because of the Debacle of the Riverside stand not being finished for 3 seasons.
The club is losing large amounts of revenue because of this failure by the CEO & Owners and the rest of us are suffering, so I doubt the prices will be the same as Rotherham, more likely they will not be any different to what our EPL prices will be @ home to Newcastle, ie: extortionate.

How is a construction company going bust then being in court with Fulham and Liverpool the fault of the owners and ceo?
I have said before that the appointment of a good and experienced contract manager would have minimised a lot of the present problems. The club should not be out of pocket as money paid to date should only have covered work done and by now a new contractor should have been appointed and the job finished.
At least a new program and completion date should be in place.

At the moment that great big steel structure is little more than a monument to poor Fulham management.

Deeping_white

Quote from: filham on January 09, 2024, 02:55:13 PM
Quote from: Sammyffc on January 09, 2024, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: EN1 FFC on January 09, 2024, 11:38:36 AMAnother opportunity missed because of the Debacle of the Riverside stand not being finished for 3 seasons.
The club is losing large amounts of revenue because of this failure by the CEO & Owners and the rest of us are suffering, so I doubt the prices will be the same as Rotherham, more likely they will not be any different to what our EPL prices will be @ home to Newcastle, ie: extortionate.

How is a construction company going bust then being in court with Fulham and Liverpool the fault of the owners and ceo?
I have said before that the appointment of a good and experienced contract manager would have minimised a lot of the present problems. The club should not be out of pocket as money paid to date should only have covered work done and by now a new contractor should have been appointed and the job finished.
At least a new program and completion date should be in place.

At the moment that great big steel structure is little more than a monument to poor Fulham management.

With the greatest of respect, that's not how it works in the real world. I work on multi million pound projects for a living, and when we've been brought in to fix another companies mess, it's often several months if not longer after work has stopped because of complex legal negotiations to sort out financial liability, handover from one company to the next etc etc. Building a football stand isn't something your average builder does either, its a collaboration of a number of specialist trades who if they're any good, won't be able to start working immediately because they'll be in demand for quite some time for their skills and expertise. The original build with Buckingham would've likely been milestone billing as it was, due to the type of project that building a football stand is, but it's not quite so simple as assuming we wouldn't be out of pocket either, and the club would likely be looking to claw back some money based on quality control issues, contractual obligations not being met and so on.

Stoneleigh Loyalist

#14
I was there on the halfway line in 1956 and the papers were full of photos of the famous barge.


Angus Telford

I remember when there was a large body of fans who refused to believe the Riverside development would happen until they saw "spades in the ground". Well now the stand is open and nearly finished, and for me it'll always represent glorious proof of the Khans' intent and ability to support the livelihood of this club.

With that said, the delay of a two-year project to five years is pretty terrible and goes beyond the Buckingham insolvency. Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, you do hope the Khans are reflecting on how the project has been managed and the people within the club that managed it.

C Block

Quote from: Angus Telford on January 09, 2024, 03:29:21 PMI remember when there was a large body of fans who refused to believe the Riverside development would happen until they saw "spades in the ground". Well now the stand is open and nearly finished, and for me it'll always represent glorious proof of the Khans' intent and ability to support the livelihood of this club.

With that said, the delay of a two-year project to five years is pretty terrible and goes beyond the Buckingham insolvency. Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, you do hope the Khans are reflecting on how the project has been managed and the people within the club that managed it.
From what I understand the entire Riverside Stand project is currently on hold due to the "Fulham Pier" if we got permission for that to go ahead then things would happen very quickly,
No business is going to commit to a Hotel or a health club or a Michelin starred restaurant etc until they know whether or not the Pier is going ahead,if it does then Fulham suddenly becomes an entertainment and lifestyle choice for Londoners and tourists alike with all those Thames Clippers arriving,
99% of our supporters don't realise how important that "Pier" decision is for us,
Fingers crossed we get the decision soon.

KentFulham

Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 09, 2024, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: Yorkie_FFC on January 08, 2024, 10:59:30 PMOnce the date is set, hopefully we are sensible with ticketing and prices. It could be a great opportunity to get some "1st timers" hooked with deals on family tickets/adult plus kid and in general lower the threshold. I imagine like Rotherham allocation we will give Newcastle the whole of the Putney End. Although I can see Tottenham vs Man City and Blackburn vs Wrexham potentially being TV games. I wouldn't be surprised if ours turned into one although prefer Sat 3pm

Rotherham were entitled to 3,855 tickets as 15 % of capacity and I don't think they sold their full allocation so I don't think we gave them the whole Putney end?
Maybe we just closed off the remaining PE sections as it was the easy option?

As for Newcastle, the PE seats 5,926 (I believe) so the club may take the easy option of giving them the whole end despite them only being entitled to 15% of capacity.

That is 3855 from 25,700 or am I wrong?


The club stated online that they had given the whole putney end to them, but they sold 10% of it, so it was closed off


EN1 FFC

#18
Quote from: Sammyffc on January 09, 2024, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: EN1 FFC on January 09, 2024, 11:38:36 AMAnother opportunity missed because of the Debacle of the Riverside stand not being finished for 3 seasons.
The club is losing large amounts of revenue because of this failure by the CEO & Owners and the rest of us are suffering, so I doubt the prices will be the same as Rotherham, more likely they will not be any different to what our EPL prices will be @ home to Newcastle, ie: extortionate.

How is a construction company going bust then being in court with Fulham and Liverpool the fault of the owners and ceo?
Because as the CEO and Owners keep pointing out to us, 'they are Guardians of the club', are we being told the truth ?
The loss of Revenue to the club as a result of the delay has a knock on effect to the profitability and the loss to FFP income, the actual cost of the stand does not effect profitability or FFP, so did they not have insurance for delays and bankruptcy built into contracts.
The planning of the Fulham Pier, walkways, shops, Hotel, Sports Gym and other amenities were supposed to be bringing revenue into the club by now. So let's hope they claim on the insurance.
I'm still wondering how/if they are going to get a safety certificate once fully opened, the stand is already a nightmare to enter and exit and has limited turnstile facilities.

Roberty

#19
I doubt that it can be insured for. Delays are usually catered for in the contract and would be a penalty against the contractor. Buckingham going bust means we are an unsecured creditor and unlikely to be paid anything.
 
I would imagine that the safety certificate is contingent on the entrance/exit to Bishops Park, thus only limited numbers in the stand until the walkway is open.
It could be better but it's real life and not a fantasy