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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2024

Started by jayffc, May 19, 2024, 11:52:16 AM

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Bassey the warrior

I'd hope we could learn something from Crystal Palace's recent transfer business, they've brought in a lot of young talent from The Championship and abroad. We need to move on from trying to resurrect the careers of 30 something Premier League players (I'm aware Martial is 28).

Speaking of Martial, he's talented but lazy and we can't afford any passengers. It's a no from me.

Craven Mad

Quote from: Bassey the warrior on May 29, 2024, 11:50:36 AMI'd hope we could learn something from Crystal Palace's recent transfer business, they've brought in a lot of young talent from The Championship and abroad. We need to move on from trying to resurrect the careers of 30 something Premier League players (I'm aware Martial is 28).

Speaking of Martial, he's talented but lazy and we can't afford any passengers. It's a no from me.

Bournemouth have done the same lately too, to great effect.

Gabriel Sara (Norwich) is the player I'd most like from the Championship. Creative, strong, reads the game well, and is exactly the sort of player who could come in straight away and improve our midfield (Brazilian too, so would should be able to fit in with the other Portuguese speakers). I think he'd be an excellent fit.

Jack Clarke (Sunderland) is another who I think could add a lot to our left wing. Whenever I've watched him, he reminds me of Willian - just seems to have time on the ball and makes things look simple. Could be a great understudy if we can convince Willian to give us another season, as I think he'd probably need a season to adjust before becoming first choice.

Super Mick

Tosins mugged us off. Any club that gets him can get stuffed.


LC

So I think we need the following player improvements on our starting 11:

- centre back
- central midfielder
- left sided forward

I think it's time to replace Willian either with someone who can take over from him right away or someone who can take over in one seasons time- possible Jack Clarke.

We need more goals in our forward line. Personally I would be tempted to listen to offers for Andreas and look to find an improvement on him.

Someone who could fill the left sided forward and number 10 role is Emile Smith Rowe who would probably cost around £40m but that's the standard of player we need in order to improve.

All that is presuming we can't find diamonds in the rough, which to be fair, the club have been very good at over the last few years, so who knows. But I think the focus needs to be on improving the starting 11.

MickTheBeard

I agree copying Crystal Palace policy on transfers is a better policy of recruitment than us resurrecting player careers which doesn't give us a strong foundation with assets to sell with extra bonus of youth players filling the void 27 to 28 year olds does not by us assets take note of the type of player at Everton with their director of football and silva age with high price getting their money back has been hard to get money back,but their academy has sold some good assets and some which are playing well with promise.

Marcel_Gecov

Quote from: LC on May 29, 2024, 02:33:51 PMSo I think we need the following player improvements on our starting 11:

- centre back
- central midfielder
- left sided forward

I think it's time to replace Willian either with someone who can take over from him right away or someone who can take over in one seasons time- possible Jack Clarke.

We need more goals in our forward line. Personally I would be tempted to listen to offers for Andreas and look to find an improvement on him.

Someone who could fill the left sided forward and number 10 role is Emile Smith Rowe who would probably cost around £40m but that's the standard of player we need in order to improve.

All that is presuming we can't find diamonds in the rough, which to be fair, the club have been very good at over the last few years, so who knows. But I think the focus needs to be on improving the starting 11.

40m for ESR is mad. He is a 15/20m player tops with his recent lack of football. Glad fans dont buy players.


WolverineFFC

Quote from: Craven Mad on May 29, 2024, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Bassey the warrior on May 29, 2024, 11:50:36 AMI'd hope we could learn something from Crystal Palace's recent transfer business, they've brought in a lot of young talent from The Championship and abroad. We need to move on from trying to resurrect the careers of 30 something Premier League players (I'm aware Martial is 28).

Speaking of Martial, he's talented but lazy and we can't afford any passengers. It's a no from me.

Bournemouth have done the same lately too, to great effect.

Gabriel Sara (Norwich) is the player I'd most like from the Championship. Creative, strong, reads the game well, and is exactly the sort of player who could come in straight away and improve our midfield (Brazilian too, so would should be able to fit in with the other Portuguese speakers). I think he'd be an excellent fit.

Jack Clarke (Sunderland) is another who I think could add a lot to our left wing. Whenever I've watched him, he reminds me of Willian - just seems to have time on the ball and makes things look simple. Could be a great understudy if we can convince Willian to give us another season, as I think he'd probably need a season to adjust before becoming first choice.

I think a balanced strategy is best which means bringing 1 or 2 younger or inexperienced players in a year. Bringing in too many at once can leave you in a situation like Burnley or Leeds if you're not careful.

Dammy

Gabriel Osho from Luton Town on a free transfer?

LC

Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on May 29, 2024, 04:07:39 PM
Quote from: LC on May 29, 2024, 02:33:51 PMSo I think we need the following player improvements on our starting 11:

- centre back
- central midfielder
- left sided forward

I think it's time to replace Willian either with someone who can take over from him right away or someone who can take over in one seasons time- possible Jack Clarke.

We need more goals in our forward line. Personally I would be tempted to listen to offers for Andreas and look to find an improvement on him.

Someone who could fill the left sided forward and number 10 role is Emile Smith Rowe who would probably cost around £40m but that's the standard of player we need in order to improve.

All that is presuming we can't find diamonds in the rough, which to be fair, the club have been very good at over the last few years, so who knows. But I think the focus needs to be on improving the starting 11.

40m for ESR is mad. He is a 15/20m player tops with his recent lack of football. Glad fans dont buy players.

He's no way a £15-20m player and he'll go for around £30-40m this summer. And I didn't say we should spend that, I'm simply saying that is the going rate for a player of his quality, and he is quality. His lack of game time would drag down the price, but he's English and has an incredibly high ceiling which is why Arsenal will probably get the price they want


Jim©

Quote from: LC on May 30, 2024, 12:23:55 AMHe's no way a £15-20m player and he'll go for around £30-40m this summer. And I didn't say we should spend that, I'm simply saying that is the going rate for a player of his quality, and he is quality. His lack of game time would drag down the price, but he's English and has an incredibly high ceiling which is why Arsenal will probably get the price they want

He's not a £40m player. He can't get into arsenal's side. He's done little of note for two years. Wilson, as proved v Luton can play 10 if need be and play it well. We need a left sided player, esr is not that player.

jayffc

Quote from: Jim© on May 30, 2024, 08:03:46 AM
Quote from: LC on May 30, 2024, 12:23:55 AMHe's no way a £15-20m player and he'll go for around £30-40m this summer. And I didn't say we should spend that, I'm simply saying that is the going rate for a player of his quality, and he is quality. His lack of game time would drag down the price, but he's English and has an incredibly high ceiling which is why Arsenal will probably get the price they want

He's not a £40m player. He can't get into arsenal's side. He's done little of note for two years. Wilson, as proved v Luton can play 10 if need be and play it well. We need a left sided player, esr is not that player.

Agreed

The only way it gets close to this figure is if it's with add ons.

Morgan gibbs white was starting all the time and playing very well for wolves when he was signed for 25m.....with 17m in add ons. Something around that might be the sort of deal he gets but fairer would be around 20m with 15m in add ons given his lack of first team play time.

That said, I would love ESR, albeit we have Cairney/Iwobi/Wilson and potentially BDR all able to cover here behind Andreas

FFC In Oz

Quote from: Craven Mad on May 29, 2024, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Bassey the warrior on May 29, 2024, 11:50:36 AMI'd hope we could learn something from Crystal Palace's recent transfer business, they've brought in a lot of young talent from The Championship and abroad. We need to move on from trying to resurrect the careers of 30 something Premier League players (I'm aware Martial is 28).

Speaking of Martial, he's talented but lazy and we can't afford any passengers. It's a no from me.

Bournemouth have done the same lately too, to great effect.

Gabriel Sara (Norwich) is the player I'd most like from the Championship. Creative, strong, reads the game well, and is exactly the sort of player who could come in straight away and improve our midfield (Brazilian too, so would should be able to fit in with the other Portuguese speakers). I think he'd be an excellent fit.

Jack Clarke (Sunderland) is another who I think could add a lot to our left wing. Whenever I've watched him, he reminds me of Willian - just seems to have time on the ball and makes things look simple. Could be a great understudy if we can convince Willian to give us another season, as I think he'd probably need a season to adjust before becoming first choice.

I suggested similar a few months back.

We need to look at lowering the age of the squad - and that needs to be addressed from this window and be spread out over the next 2-3 seasons.

It's important to get young players from the Championship or lesser leagues - these are the types of players that will have resale value. 

Brighton are the other natural example of a team that have done this well over a number of seasons.

Sara and Clarke are both good shouts.


Surlyc

In a similar vein to some the previous suggestions, Jaden Philogene (Hull) and Nathan Wood (Swansea) could be good options.

MickTheBeard

Yes please we need to buy younger it means long term we can buy more for our money just tell silva buy a player at 27 their is no return after a 4 year +1 contract it's that simple.



Craven Mad

Summerville would obviously be great (although his one-footedness always concerned me) but I very much doubt we'd pay that much and it doesn't feel like the sort of thing we'd do.

If we do have £40m to splash, I think we could get better value across a few positions, rather than go all-in on a single position.

jayffc

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Quote from: Craven Mad on May 30, 2024, 05:22:59 PMSummerville would obviously be great (although his one-footedness always concerned me) but I very much doubt we'd pay that much and it doesn't feel like the sort of thing we'd do.

If we do have £40m to splash, I think we could get better value across a few positions, rather than go all-in on a single position.

Yeh that seems a mighty big amount. Sessegnon went for around 27m having won the same awards and look how that turned out. Granted we've had inflation since then - but seems an excessive amount to me and a huge risk at that price. Better value to be found out there surely

LC

Quote from: jayffc on May 30, 2024, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on May 30, 2024, 05:22:59 PMSummerville would obviously be great (although his one-footedness always concerned me) but I very much doubt we'd pay that much and it doesn't feel like the sort of thing we'd do.

If we do have £40m to splash, I think we could get better value across a few positions, rather than go all-in on a single position.

Yeh that seems a mighty big amount. Sessegnon went for around 27m having won the same awards and look how that turned out. Granted we've had inflation since then - but seems an excessive amount to me and a huge risk at that price. Better value to be found out there surely

I would prefer Jack Clarke for at least half that amount


Nero

Quote from: jayffc on May 30, 2024, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on May 30, 2024, 05:22:59 PMSummerville would obviously be great (although his one-footedness always concerned me) but I very much doubt we'd pay that much and it doesn't feel like the sort of thing we'd do.

If we do have £40m to splash, I think we could get better value across a few positions, rather than go all-in on a single position.

Yeh that seems a mighty big amount. Sessegnon went for around 27m having won the same awards and look how that turned out. Granted we've had inflation since then - but seems an excessive amount to me and a huge risk at that price. Better value to be found out there surely

Sess have UK player tax as well, not sure I like Summerville since Feb hes been playing for himself and not the team looking for his move, dont know if I like the attitude. PLay off final he was terrible was always looking for his own glory and not the teams with the passes only doing so if he thought it was a one two to get it back and have a shot

WolverineFFC

Quote from: Nero on May 30, 2024, 06:29:24 PM
Quote from: jayffc on May 30, 2024, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: Craven Mad on May 30, 2024, 05:22:59 PMSummerville would obviously be great (although his one-footedness always concerned me) but I very much doubt we'd pay that much and it doesn't feel like the sort of thing we'd do.

If we do have £40m to splash, I think we could get better value across a few positions, rather than go all-in on a single position.

Yeh that seems a mighty big amount. Sessegnon went for around 27m having won the same awards and look how that turned out. Granted we've had inflation since then - but seems an excessive amount to me and a huge risk at that price. Better value to be found out there surely

Sess have UK player tax as well, not sure I like Summerville since Feb hes been playing for himself and not the team looking for his move, dont know if I like the attitude. PLay off final he was terrible was always looking for his own glory and not the teams with the passes only doing so if he thought it was a one two to get it back and have a shot

His issue in the playoff final was he went against a Premier League level RB in Walker-Peters.

I like him, but don't like anything north of 15 to 20 million for him. He is young and had a great goal scoring season in the Championship so there's room for growth. The issue is whether he can make the jump up now. Ultimately I think the price will be too high and he'll end up somewhere else.