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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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Whitestone

Quote from: jayffc on July 28, 2025, 01:43:02 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on July 28, 2025, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2025, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: hopper on July 28, 2025, 12:11:42 PM[Adam Crafton] David Moyes on Everton's transfer window: "We're a long way away just now. I would have hoped it would have been much further down the line than we are. We've been in for a lot of really good players. Unfortunately, a lot them have said no at the moment."

sums up Marcos comments every one wants CL teams

Cunha and Mbeumo were happy to sign for a team without any European commitments. I think it's an assumption that players want Europe. Some chase the money first and will sign for a so called big club. Unfortunately we don't fit into that category and neither do Everton despite what their fans may think. Most players probably view Everton as a perennial struggler, which they are.

That team was Man Utd and they paid an absolute fortune for them.

Yes, they've been crap for a while. But let's not act like Everton and Fulham have the same pull as record top-flight league title winning and multi-champions league winners Man Utd - that should and likely will eventually return to being a top 6 side eventually just due to the sheer size of the club.

Yes their draw has dwindled in recent years - but they are, for all intents and purposes a sleeping giant with a massive worldwide brand. Players still think they can go there and be part of a team that can win silverware and bring glory and European football back to old trafford. For all they were rubbish last year - they still made a european cup final.

I wasn't suggesting Fulham and Everton have the same pull as Man U. That's your interpretation of my post.

demeant0r

Quote from: Super Mick on July 28, 2025, 01:29:39 PM
Quote from: Hugh Janus on July 28, 2025, 01:27:55 PM
Quote from: F(f)CUK on July 28, 2025, 12:28:34 PMWith Mitrovic supposedly being offered to Premier League teams, I am hoping that this doesn't come off. I don't want the Fulham supporters to boo him.

What odds on having him back? Marco is still in touch with him.

Only reason that will happen is if we sell Muniz to Leeds!

Can you imagine Mitro comes back as well as Palhinha. They'll join Andersen and Sess in returning.

Fulham 442

Quote from: Hugh Janus on July 28, 2025, 01:27:55 PM
Quote from: F(f)CUK on July 28, 2025, 12:28:34 PMWith Mitrovic supposedly being offered to Premier League teams, I am hoping that this doesn't come off. I don't want the Fulham supporters to boo him.

What odds on having him back? Marco is still in touch with him.
Wow, I'm surprised after the way he left!


Fulham 442

Quote from: hopper on July 28, 2025, 12:11:42 PM[Adam Crafton] David Moyes on Everton's transfer window: "We're a long way away just now. I would have hoped it would have been much further down the line than we are. We've been in for a lot of really good players. Unfortunately, a lot them have said no at the moment."

I read this too and immediately thought of us!

Deeping_white

https://twitter.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1949825765807120636

Quote forest £15-20m, the sale is pure profit and then reinvest it into someone younger with better end product. Yes Adama is quick and he had a moderately decent output last season, but I think he goes missing in games too often given his extreme pace and strength, can't hit the broadside of a barn door most of the time and he's turning 30 in January

FFC1987

Not sure how I feel about letting Adama go. He's such an asset in circumstances to our squad. We'd be giving that way to a potential rival (assuming Forest drop down the table) but £20m+ for a guy we got for free is great business.....


jayffc

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Quote from: Whitestone on July 28, 2025, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: jayffc on July 28, 2025, 01:43:02 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on July 28, 2025, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on July 28, 2025, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: hopper on July 28, 2025, 12:11:42 PM[Adam Crafton] David Moyes on Everton's transfer window: "We're a long way away just now. I would have hoped it would have been much further down the line than we are. We've been in for a lot of really good players. Unfortunately, a lot them have said no at the moment."


sums up Marcos comments every one wants CL teams

Cunha and Mbeumo were happy to sign for a team without any European commitments. I think it's an assumption that players want Europe. Some chase the money first and will sign for a so called big club. Unfortunately we don't fit into that category and neither do Everton despite what their fans may think. Most players probably view Everton as a perennial struggler, which they are.

That team was Man Utd and they paid an absolute fortune for them.

Yes, they've been crap for a while. But let's not act like Everton and Fulham have the same pull as record top-flight league title winning and multi-champions league winners Man Utd - that should and likely will eventually return to being a top 6 side eventually just due to the sheer size of the club.

Yes their draw has dwindled in recent years - but they are, for all intents and purposes a sleeping giant with a massive worldwide brand. Players still think they can go there and be part of a team that can win silverware and bring glory and European football back to old trafford. For all they were rubbish last year - they still made a european cup final.

I wasn't suggesting Fulham and Everton have the same pull as Man U. That's your interpretation of my post.

You suggested some very good players sign for teams "like Utd"  which shows they don't want european football.
I suggested that's a bad example - given Utd, despite their woes, are still a massive club with a different level of reasons to want to sign there (one being wild fees and wages)...but that Man Utd were still in a European final last year and absolutely are a club expected to compete in Europe generally.

Just bad examples. Yes there are players out there who may move to clubs like ours, and yes it's situational. In this instance on the topic of Fofana and players like him (see Cherki last year) he's at a pretty big club already with European history, who's seen as a bit of a wonderkid- and so unsurprisingly, following in cherkis footsteps, wants to see what comes his way in terms of bigger teams. As happens alot.

jayffc

#3467
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2025, 02:41:10 PMhttps://twitter.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1949825765807120636

Quote forest £15-20m, the sale is pure profit and then reinvest it into someone younger with better end product. Yes Adama is quick and he had a moderately decent output last season, but I think he goes missing in games too often given his extreme pace and strength, can't hit the broadside of a barn door most of the time and he's turning 30 in January

I would hazard a guess he'd be very effective at forest tbh. They would play whole heartedly in a way that suits him (on the break with effective counter attacks). For that reason alone I'd rather not tbh, strengthening a rival. That said I like Adama and think he offers alot in terms of chance creation, both literally with his crossing and with the room he opens up for others

Deeping_white

Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2025, 02:44:12 PMNot sure how I feel about letting Adama go. He's such an asset in circumstances to our squad. We'd be giving that way to a potential rival (assuming Forest drop down the table) but £20m+ for a guy we got for free is great business.....

His pace is very handy, but I think that we don't always put it to best use due to our build-up style (and we shouldn't compromise it for just one player either tbf), but if you compare him to Wilson who has the intelligence to make diagonal runs in behind, you just dont see enough of it from him. He's also not the best at covering defensively either, and if the club are serious about generating revenue from transfers then getting an 8 figure sum for him which is pure profit and can be reinvested into potentially two players, I think it should be seriously considered. Also with his 9 G/A I think that can be replaced too without too much effort


FFC1987

Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2025, 02:49:17 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 28, 2025, 02:44:12 PMNot sure how I feel about letting Adama go. He's such an asset in circumstances to our squad. We'd be giving that way to a potential rival (assuming Forest drop down the table) but £20m+ for a guy we got for free is great business.....

His pace is very handy, but I think that we don't always put it to best use due to our build-up style (and we shouldn't compromise it for just one player either tbf), but if you compare him to Wilson who has the intelligence to make diagonal runs in behind, you just dont see enough of it from him. He's also not the best at covering defensively either, and if the club are serious about generating revenue from transfers then getting an 8 figure sum for him which is pure profit and can be reinvested into potentially two players, I think it should be seriously considered. Also with his 9 G/A I think that can be replaced too without too much effort

But its why I mentioned circumstantial. Look at how we deployed him in the City game and the havoc he caused. He's an asset when we're up against it. Top 4 sides, or, when holding slender leads against mid table sides when we tend to sit back, and hit the counter space. He'd be well suited at Forest as Jay mentioned.....Getting the sort of pace Adama does for £20m ish isn't cheap.....I think he's worth that for us to be honest and not sure gambling on two youngsters would be the way to go. But that's just me. Sure the scouting team know better.

Drewry66

Quote from: jayffc on July 28, 2025, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2025, 02:41:10 PMhttps://twitter.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1949825765807120636

Quote forest £15-20m, the sale is pure profit and then reinvest it into someone younger with better end product. Yes Adama is quick and he had a moderately decent output last season, but I think he goes missing in games too often given his extreme pace and strength, can't hit the broadside of a barn door most of the time and he's turning 30 in January

I would hazard a guess he'd been very effective at forest tbh. They would play whole heartedly in a way that suits him. For that reason alone I'd rather not tbh. I like adama and think he offers alot in terms of chance creation, both literally with his crossing and with the room he opens up for others

It's a really tough one this. He is a very useful weapon to have. Doubt we'd get £15m+ but if we did we'd surely have to seriously consider it rather than him going for nothing in a year. Already want two wingers however so that then means a third. If Nelson/Sterling really are lined up there have been some exciting rumours for right wing as a third. The lad from Juve, possibly Chuckwuaze or what ever happened to the Ben Doak links? As you say though don't like the idea of strengthening Forrest and he would of course suit their sit deep gir in the break tactics. Defo an interesting one if they offered anything substantial.

Thailand Mick

If we just covered the Nelson fee with Adama it would be the same as getting Nelson on a free.


General

Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2025, 02:41:10 PMhttps://twitter.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1949825765807120636

Quote forest £15-20m, the sale is pure profit and then reinvest it into someone younger with better end product. Yes Adama is quick and he had a moderately decent output last season, but I think he goes missing in games too often given his extreme pace and strength, can't hit the broadside of a barn door most of the time and he's turning 30 in January

This doesn't make sense to me.

Firstly he's 30, secondly he registered 10 G/a for us last season and in my view is getting better, thirdly he's an incredible attacking weapon with his pace and physicality.. 4th, he's only just signed a one year extension at the club.

Surely NFFC would wait a year, or start talking to him before we agreed taking up the option.

Seems stupid to go in after and when a fee was needed, when they could sign him for free beforehand, or after in a years time.

They could've kept that conversation going  given his contract situation from Jan.. which would've been the smart/right thing to do if interest was genuine, or they didn't want to pay.


Neutral Zone Ultra

Quote from: General on July 28, 2025, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2025, 02:41:10 PMhttps://twitter.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1949825765807120636

Quote forest £15-20m, the sale is pure profit and then reinvest it into someone younger with better end product. Yes Adama is quick and he had a moderately decent output last season, but I think he goes missing in games too often given his extreme pace and strength, can't hit the broadside of a barn door most of the time and he's turning 30 in January

This doesn't make sense to me.

Firstly he's 30, secondly he registered 10 G/a for us last season and in my view is getting better, thirdly he's an incredible attacking weapon with his pace and physicality.. 4th, he's only just signed a one year extension at the club.

Surely NFFC would wait a year, or start talking to him before we agreed taking up the option.

Seems stupid to go in after and when a fee was needed, when they could sign him for free beforehand, or after in a years time.

They could've kept that conversation going  given his contract situation from Jan.. which would've been the smart/right thing to do if interest was genuine, or they didn't want to pay.


Perhaps they didn't expect Elanga to leave, now that Gibbs-White is staying they want to make a statement of intent by splashing some cash. Agree still doesn't make a huge amount of sense from their perspective, but from ours I think £20m would be excellent business for offloading a free transfer. Think Nelson is an upgrade, but would like us to bring in another winger or two.

Deeping_white

Quote from: General on July 28, 2025, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2025, 02:41:10 PMhttps://twitter.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1949825765807120636

Quote forest £15-20m, the sale is pure profit and then reinvest it into someone younger with better end product. Yes Adama is quick and he had a moderately decent output last season, but I think he goes missing in games too often given his extreme pace and strength, can't hit the broadside of a barn door most of the time and he's turning 30 in January

This doesn't make sense to me.

Firstly he's 30, secondly he registered 10 G/a for us last season and in my view is getting better, thirdly he's an incredible attacking weapon with his pace and physicality.. 4th, he's only just signed a one year extension at the club.

Surely NFFC would wait a year, or start talking to him before we agreed taking up the option.

Seems stupid to go in after and when a fee was needed, when they could sign him for free beforehand, or after in a years time.

They could've kept that conversation going  given his contract situation from Jan.. which would've been the smart/right thing to do if interest was genuine, or they didn't want to pay.



They've sold Elanga and need a replacement now not next year, makes perfect sense. He also signed a 2 year deal in 2023 with a club option to extend which we did, nothing to do with him.


Hugh Janus

Quote from: Fulham 442 on July 28, 2025, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: Hugh Janus on July 28, 2025, 01:27:55 PM
Quote from: F(f)CUK on July 28, 2025, 12:28:34 PMWith Mitrovic supposedly being offered to Premier League teams, I am hoping that this doesn't come off. I don't want the Fulham supporters to boo him.

What odds on having him back? Marco is still in touch with him.
Wow, I'm surprised after the way he left!

Read an article not so long ago that said we would have been in trouble with FFP had the sale not happened.

General

Quote from: Thailand Mick on July 28, 2025, 03:07:59 PMIf we just covered the Nelson fee with Adama it would be the same as getting Nelson on a free.

Not really a logic that sticks. As we'd still be then down a player and need to spend money on bringing in a replacement. E.g. adama was already in and we wanted to add Nelson (both were in last year!), so Nelson was just bringing squad numbers back to what we had last year, not necessarily adding anything.

Then we'd have a need to replace Willian and Vinicius. If you bring in Nelson, as you say, to cover adama leaving, then you'd still need to spend money on three new recruits instead of two, as you'd now be replacing one of Nelson/Adama, on top of Vinicius and Willian.

And we got Adama for free. So you'd be spending more money covering fees and wages of new players than just simply keeping Adama in and bringing in Nelson on loan with a potentially small fee.


General

Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2025, 03:14:05 PM
Quote from: General on July 28, 2025, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2025, 02:41:10 PMhttps://twitter.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1949825765807120636

Quote forest £15-20m, the sale is pure profit and then reinvest it into someone younger with better end product. Yes Adama is quick and he had a moderately decent output last season, but I think he goes missing in games too often given his extreme pace and strength, can't hit the broadside of a barn door most of the time and he's turning 30 in January

This doesn't make sense to me.

Firstly he's 30, secondly he registered 10 G/a for us last season and in my view is getting better, thirdly he's an incredible attacking weapon with his pace and physicality.. 4th, he's only just signed a one year extension at the club.

Surely NFFC would wait a year, or start talking to him before we agreed taking up the option.

Seems stupid to go in after and when a fee was needed, when they could sign him for free beforehand, or after in a years time.

They could've kept that conversation going  given his contract situation from Jan.. which would've been the smart/right thing to do if interest was genuine, or they didn't want to pay.



They've sold Elanga and need a replacement now not next year, makes perfect sense. He also signed a 2 year deal in 2023 with a club option to extend which we did, nothing to do with him.

You're conflating two points.

Yes they sold elanga and need a replacement, that doesn't automatically mean Traore is the replacement.

They sold Elanga for a lot, so could easily afford a younger player who's equally as effective and have change left, plus resale value.



Deeping_white

Quote from: General on July 28, 2025, 03:18:00 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2025, 03:14:05 PM
Quote from: General on July 28, 2025, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 28, 2025, 02:41:10 PMhttps://twitter.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1949825765807120636

Quote forest £15-20m, the sale is pure profit and then reinvest it into someone younger with better end product. Yes Adama is quick and he had a moderately decent output last season, but I think he goes missing in games too often given his extreme pace and strength, can't hit the broadside of a barn door most of the time and he's turning 30 in January

This doesn't make sense to me.

Firstly he's 30, secondly he registered 10 G/a for us last season and in my view is getting better, thirdly he's an incredible attacking weapon with his pace and physicality.. 4th, he's only just signed a one year extension at the club.

Surely NFFC would wait a year, or start talking to him before we agreed taking up the option.

Seems stupid to go in after and when a fee was needed, when they could sign him for free beforehand, or after in a years time.

They could've kept that conversation going  given his contract situation from Jan.. which would've been the smart/right thing to do if interest was genuine, or they didn't want to pay.



They've sold Elanga and need a replacement now not next year, makes perfect sense. He also signed a 2 year deal in 2023 with a club option to extend which we did, nothing to do with him.

You're conflating two points.

Yes they sold elanga and need a replacement, that doesn't automatically mean Traore is the replacement.

They sold Elanga for a lot, so could easily afford a younger player who's equally as effective and have change left, plus resale value.



What two points am I conflating exactly? they lost a direct pacy winger and are looking to bring in a direct pacy winger, and have gone after Adama because Nuno used to manage him and wants to sign him as a known quality. Yes they might try and sign another winger as well, but they might not be able to afford better quality players or might be getting turned down so far

Nero

Flog Adama and get Werner, at least Werner's done in in the past