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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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Coast94

10 days until the season opener and the only rumour of note is Muniz leaving. Nothing even seems remotely close on incomings. Things can change, but this has been an incredibly poor window so far. Absolutely no ambition to move the club forward.

Makes you wonder if there's something deeper at play. Whether it be SCR etc.

FFC1987

Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on August 05, 2025, 09:42:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 05, 2025, 09:39:00 AMHave to agree with the sentiment that we're turning SCR into potentially something its not. People may well be right, and our severe lack of investment the last few windows, as a way to gear up for this, but I'm sceptical. The discord is rife with it as well and it feels like posters are threading a narrative to rationalise lack of early signings.

Again, not saying anyone is wrong, but I'll just wait and make this sort of judgement by the end of the window. Silva has always said its not about bodies, its about the right bodies and I'm still convinced this is, at least part of why we haven't signed anyone yet. Some of the comments whenever a player we were 'linked' with, are going elsewhere, is a tad bizarre as well. Are posters really wishing we'd lump £30+ into say Dewsbury Hall? Or are we just desperate for a signing and some excitement..
For the record on Dewsbury-Hall, I can't say I was that thrilled by him as a player, it was more the principle of we were interested in him, had interest for a while, then Everton come in and get the deal wrapped up in a matter of days. Our transfer business just doesn't feel as proactive as our rivals right now.

I guess my only retort to this is.....Were we really interested? Felt like a lot of links had us 'looking' among other clubs at a number of Chelsea players and they clearly need to sell, so I guess maybe we were if a loan deal could be struck?

I don't know, this just feels like one of links where, we might not of even been serious about him, and now posters seem to think we're missing out.....

Pavel Dempsey

Its becoming pretty boring and depressing with those CSR, FFP talks...

We desperetely need some ITK snipets to cheer us up. DM, please? Drewry66, something new on Discord?


Drewry66

Quote from: Pavel Dempsey on August 05, 2025, 09:47:59 AMIts becoming pretty boring and depressing with those CSR, FFP talks...

We desperetely need some ITK snipets to cheer us up. DM, please? Drewry66, something new on Discord?

Nothing much. In the main all depressed about this SCR theory like many of us are. Have however posted this from a claimed ITK on another forum but nothing much new in it although reiterating that we are still hopeful with Muniz and that as others have suggested Nelson is a formality. Again no idea of reliability but as at the bottom they have said he's known as a good ITK:

"From Voy TFI -

Rumours -- MN, Monday, August 04, 07:58:18pm
A few bits I've heard:

Nelson - a formality and expected to be done this week.

Green away kit - apparently this might be our 3rd kit, away is rumoured to be black (no idea if true)

Muniz contract -talks ongoing but expected to be compete by the closure of the window. Hopefully no big offers comes in/he doesn't ask to leave if a big club makes a bid.

Mitro - told he have no interest at the moment

(The community on that forum are saying that he's a good itk)"




Neutral Zone Ultra

Quote from: FFC1987 on August 05, 2025, 09:45:32 AM
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on August 05, 2025, 09:42:06 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 05, 2025, 09:39:00 AMHave to agree with the sentiment that we're turning SCR into potentially something its not. People may well be right, and our severe lack of investment the last few windows, as a way to gear up for this, but I'm sceptical. The discord is rife with it as well and it feels like posters are threading a narrative to rationalise lack of early signings.

Again, not saying anyone is wrong, but I'll just wait and make this sort of judgement by the end of the window. Silva has always said its not about bodies, its about the right bodies and I'm still convinced this is, at least part of why we haven't signed anyone yet. Some of the comments whenever a player we were 'linked' with, are going elsewhere, is a tad bizarre as well. Are posters really wishing we'd lump £30+ into say Dewsbury Hall? Or are we just desperate for a signing and some excitement..
For the record on Dewsbury-Hall, I can't say I was that thrilled by him as a player, it was more the principle of we were interested in him, had interest for a while, then Everton come in and get the deal wrapped up in a matter of days. Our transfer business just doesn't feel as proactive as our rivals right now.

I guess my only retort to this is.....Were we really interested? Felt like a lot of links had us 'looking' among other clubs at a number of Chelsea players and they clearly need to sell, so I guess maybe we were if a loan deal could be struck?

I don't know, this just feels like one of links where, we might not of even been serious about him, and now posters seem to think we're missing out.....
Perhaps. Just given nothing else is happening on the transfer front that's all we have to go off.

Chutney

The SCR issue doesn't add up, our accounts are public knowledge, and our spending and income since they were last published is also widely reported.

We have plenty to spend on paper, even with the upcoming SCR rules.

I suspect it's an Ali Mac play to counter the criticism, and its worked brilliantly.
C O Y W


Drewry66

Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2025, 10:03:36 AMThe SCR issue doesn't add up, our accounts are public knowledge, and our spending and income since they were last published is also widely reported.

We have plenty to spend on paper, even with the upcoming SCR rules.

I suspect it's an Ali Mac play to counter the criticism, and its worked brilliantly.

It is very clear in black and white on the 23/24 accounts mate that for that year we would have been massively over if the new rules were in place. The new stand has come in since then so extra income but we have also added big saleries and amortised fees with Andersen, ESR and Berge. I did a full breakdown with figures on the KDH thread. Could be I have something wrong on it or the new stand is earning ridiculous amounts of money to cover it but I don't think so and a lot of folk are saying the same.

Deeping_white

Quote from: Chutney on August 05, 2025, 10:03:36 AMThe SCR issue doesn't add up, our accounts are public knowledge, and our spending and income since they were last published is also widely reported.

We have plenty to spend on paper, even with the upcoming SCR rules.

I suspect it's an Ali Mac play to counter the criticism, and its worked brilliantly.

Independant financial review of our accounts has shown that we currently sit at the 85% wage to revenue threshold that is widely touted to be implemented, and over 100% if amortisation is included. Unless Ali Mac has fiddled our submissions to companies house to inflate our spending, which would be both strange and illegal, then it isn't something he's been able to manufacture

Coastwalker

Quote from: Drewry66 on August 05, 2025, 09:56:25 AM
Quote from: Pavel Dempsey on August 05, 2025, 09:47:59 AMIts becoming pretty boring and depressing with those CSR, FFP talks...

We desperetely need some ITK snipets to cheer us up. DM, please? Drewry66, something new on Discord?

Nothing much. In the main all depressed about this SCR theory like many of us are. Have however posted this from a claimed ITK on another forum but nothing much new in it although reiterating that we are still hopeful with Muniz and that as others have suggested Nelson is a formality. Again no idea of reliability but as at the bottom they have said he's known as a good ITK:

"From Voy TFI -

Rumours -- MN, Monday, August 04, 07:58:18pm
A few bits I've heard:

Nelson - a formality and expected to be done this week.

Green away kit - apparently this might be our 3rd kit, away is rumoured to be black (no idea if true)

Muniz contract -talks ongoing but expected to be compete by the closure of the window. Hopefully no big offers comes in/he doesn't ask to leave if a big club makes a bid.

Mitro - told he have no interest at the moment

(The community on that forum are saying that he's a good itk)"





Dont know what is going on with Nelson.
Formality and expected to be done this week.
We were told that over 2 weeks ago.
Something stinks IMO.


Drewry66

Quote from: Coastwalker on August 05, 2025, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: Drewry66 on August 05, 2025, 09:56:25 AM
Quote from: Pavel Dempsey on August 05, 2025, 09:47:59 AMIts becoming pretty boring and depressing with those CSR, FFP talks...

We desperetely need some ITK snipets to cheer us up. DM, please? Drewry66, something new on Discord?

Nothing much. In the main all depressed about this SCR theory like many of us are. Have however posted this from a claimed ITK on another forum but nothing much new in it although reiterating that we are still hopeful with Muniz and that as others have suggested Nelson is a formality. Again no idea of reliability but as at the bottom they have said he's known as a good ITK:

"From Voy TFI -

Rumours -- MN, Monday, August 04, 07:58:18pm
A few bits I've heard:

Nelson - a formality and expected to be done this week.

Green away kit - apparently this might be our 3rd kit, away is rumoured to be black (no idea if true)

Muniz contract -talks ongoing but expected to be compete by the closure of the window. Hopefully no big offers comes in/he doesn't ask to leave if a big club makes a bid.

Mitro - told he have no interest at the moment

(The community on that forum are saying that he's a good itk)"





Dont know what is going on with Nelson.
Formality and expected to be done this week.
We were told that over 2 weeks ago.
Something stinks IMO.

Just passing on the message as requested mate of course. Fulham being Fulham even if it is done prob take another week to announce it but who the hell knows.

demeant0r

All this talk of PSR has me questioning why clubs like Bournemouth can spend net €280m over the last three seasons and only this season have they sold anyone for substantial amounts. They also have a tiny stadium.

How come they can and we can't? Surely their wages can't be THAT much smaller than ours.

FFC007

We are ten days or so away from the start of the season.

If we have a bad start to the season.. the fallout from a lack of signings could be poisonous.



FFC1987

Quote from: FFC007 on August 05, 2025, 11:18:20 AMWe are ten days or so away from the start of the season.

If we have a bad start to the season.. the fallout from a lack of signings could be poisonous.



I mean, its no different to any other season is it really. We have a rough set of fixtures to open with so we'll just have to wait and see.


Thailand Mick

Regarding Scr our squad weekly wage bill =£1,216000m
Leno   130,000
Diop    70,000
Traore  65,000
Raul   100,000
Cairney 30,000
Total  395,000
If at the end of the season we
Release Cairney and Raul and sell Diop, Leno and Traore who is rumoured to be leaving this window we would wipe off nearly a third of the bill. King would be replacing Cairney and maybe Figrolls can replace Diop. I'm sure we can find a very good goalkeeper to replace Leno on far less money.

Deeping_white

Quote from: demeant0r on August 05, 2025, 11:01:18 AMAll this talk of PSR has me questioning why clubs like Bournemouth can spend net €280m over the last three seasons and only this season have they sold anyone for substantial amounts. They also have a tiny stadium.

How come they can and we can't? Surely their wages can't be THAT much smaller than ours.

PSR is a rolling 3 year window; they spent big on lower wage players and sold them on for a profit to cover off the initial expendature so overall they fall within the regulations. They sold Solanke for £60m last year, and will get over £100m in sales this year so never really at risk


Thailand Mick

Everton bid 40m for Tyler Dibling rejected, Southampton want 45m+5m add on and 25% sell on and people wonder why we have a problem.

Pavel Dempsey

Quote from: Drewry66 on August 05, 2025, 09:56:25 AM
Quote from: Pavel Dempsey on August 05, 2025, 09:47:59 AMIts becoming pretty boring and depressing with those CSR, FFP talks...

We desperetely need some ITK snipets to cheer us up. DM, please? Drewry66, something new on Discord?

Nothing much. In the main all depressed about this SCR theory like many of us are. Have however posted this from a claimed ITK on another forum but nothing much new in it although reiterating that we are still hopeful with Muniz and that as others have suggested Nelson is a formality. Again no idea of reliability but as at the bottom they have said he's known as a good ITK:

"From Voy TFI -

Rumours -- MN, Monday, August 04, 07:58:18pm
A few bits I've heard:

Nelson - a formality and expected to be done this week.

Green away kit - apparently this might be our 3rd kit, away is rumoured to be black (no idea if true)

Muniz contract -talks ongoing but expected to be compete by the closure of the window. Hopefully no big offers comes in/he doesn't ask to leave if a big club makes a bid.

Mitro - told he have no interest at the moment

(The community on that forum are saying that he's a good itk)"





Cheers, mate.

General

Quote from: Thailand Mick on August 05, 2025, 11:25:44 AMRegarding Scr our squad weekly wage bill =£1,216000m
Leno   130,000
Diop    70,000
Traore  65,000
Raul   100,000
Cairney 30,000
Total  395,000
If at the end of the season we
Release Cairney and Raul and sell Diop, Leno and Traore who is rumoured to be leaving this window we would wipe off nearly a third of the bill. King would be replacing Cairney and maybe Figrolls can replace Diop. I'm sure we can find a very good goalkeeper to replace Leno on far less money.


Do we genuinely think Cairney is only on £30k a week after everything he's done for us? You have to be kidding.


FFC1987

Also talk about Pereria being off based on a social media post with him and his family by a plane, think the translation is 'walk by faith, not by sight' on the discord.

Angus Telford

Quote from: Deeping_white on August 05, 2025, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: demeant0r on August 05, 2025, 11:01:18 AMAll this talk of PSR has me questioning why clubs like Bournemouth can spend net €280m over the last three seasons and only this season have they sold anyone for substantial amounts. They also have a tiny stadium.

How come they can and we can't? Surely their wages can't be THAT much smaller than ours.

PSR is a rolling 3 year window; they spent big on lower wage players and sold them on for a profit to cover off the initial expendature so overall they fall within the regulations. They sold Solanke for £60m last year, and will get over £100m in sales this year so never really at risk

But we know that under PSR / current rules, we've plenty of headroom. I thought the issue was SCR, potentially next season. In that regard, Bournemouth will have approx £300m of fees amortising (they've already spent another £40m this summer and have a couple of roles still to fill) which is way more than us, lower revenue, and presumably a comparable wage bill (albeit ours is inflated by the older domestic players we tend to sign).