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Summer Silly Season Transfer Thread 2025

Started by Deeping_white, April 24, 2025, 05:08:09 PM

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Fulham Tup North

"Whether you think you can or you think you can't,....you're right"

General

Almost 10 days until the season starts again..



jayffc

Quote from: Super Mick on August 04, 2025, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 04, 2025, 11:00:20 PMhttps://x.com/fulhamtransfer/status/1952482690508484843?s=46&t=MQpeKLAIS_cZtCbMzx7__w

What the hell is going on!

This one really wouldn't make any sense if the wage structure rumours are true.

Muniz leaving wouldn't really help us at all given he's on such an affordable wage

Could be though it's preventing us from being able to keep him here if we can't raise his wage considerably enough for a new deal to be agreed...but ultimately he has 2 years left contractually, so if it really is stopping us from spending then ya gotta think there's little way we sell him knowing we then have to bring in 2 strikers. Unless Mitro has made his gazillions and wants to come back and play for free as a thank you for releasing him 😅

Who knows though, it's all hearsay, interested to see if anything is revealed come the end is the window

Drewry66

Quote from: jayffc on August 04, 2025, 11:27:13 PM
Quote from: Super Mick on August 04, 2025, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on August 04, 2025, 11:00:20 PMhttps://x.com/fulhamtransfer/status/1952482690508484843?s=46&t=MQpeKLAIS_cZtCbMzx7__w

What the hell is going on!

This one really wouldn't make any sense if the wage structure rumours are true.

Muniz leaving wouldn't really help us at all given he's on such an affordable wage

Could be though it's preventing us from being able to keep him here if we can't raise his wage considerably enough for a new deal to be agreed...but ultimately he has 2 years left contractually, so if it really is stopping us from spending then ya gotta think there's little way we sell him knowing we then have to bring in 2 strikers. Unless Mitro has made his gazillions and wants to come back and play for free as a thank you for releasing him 😅

Who knows though, it's all hearsay, interested to see if anything is revealed come the end is the window

If SCR next year is the issue we are far better saying no this year and just selling Muniz next year. God only knows. It's certainly going to be an interesting time until the end of August I think. 

Angus Telford

#4105
Re. SCR, going to stick my neck out and say taking into account the potential for further delays/appeals in the Man City case, a potential challenge from the PFA, and the requirement for a majority of clubs to vote in favour of implementation, the actual likelihood of SCR ever actually coming into effect must be about 50:50.

I reckon the chances of it coming immediately into full force, on a non-phased basis with no transitional arrangements,  as soon as 26/27, must be < 10%.

Will be very cynical and disappointed if this becomes our excuse for another tight-fisted window.


Drewry66

It's all pure conjecture but really looks like something is going on. Even we don't tend to leave things this late for getting stuff done and everything is talk of 1 year loans which certainly suggests SCR concerns. Could be that, could be they don't want to commit with Marco leaving or could simply be that they don't want to invest or something we haven't even thought of. Perhaps we are closer to PSR limits this year but I just don't believe that with the sales we have made in the 3 year period and plenty of sources say we have tonnes of room.

Perhaps they'll spend £80m in the next few weeks and we'll realise they weren't concerned about it at all and were just going for bargains late but not looking likely at present if all these loan rumours are anything to go by. Incredibly frustrating whatever the reason.

Almost all clubs already voted in favour of bringing SCR in so you'd imagine they are certainly expecting it may well happen. If so to make big purchases wouldn't make much sense even if it's 50/50 when we are in all likelihood already miles over the limit looking at previous accounts and activity since.

I think whatever the reason if we have barely spent anything by the end of the window the club need to explain the situation as it is causing chaos among the fan base and going to turn very sour if things don't go well on the pitch. Owners have done so before in recent years when at the limit of the current rules and at least the fans can then understand why. Think the Wolves owners did so a few years ago and sure there have been others as well. Not our style but really think we should, especially considering how fanbase has felt treated with ticket prices and everything else. Let's just hope they somehow pull something magic out one way or another by the end of the month.

Angus Telford

#4107
Quote from: Drewry66 on August 05, 2025, 12:35:23 AMAlmost all clubs already voted in favour of bringing SCR in so you'd imagine they are certainly expecting it may well happen.

Agree with much of what you've said, but this is a bit of an oversimplification, isn't it?

They voted in favour of trialling it last year on a non-binding basis - that trial then happened.

Then when it came to actually implementing it, they voted to put that off for at least another year (19-1 according to Twitter although I haven't been able to verify that).

FFC In Oz

Quote from: General on August 04, 2025, 11:18:59 PMAlmost 10 days until the season starts again..

And there's still nobody through the door to get excited about


Coastwalker

Quote from: FFC In Oz on August 05, 2025, 06:23:53 AM
Quote from: General on August 04, 2025, 11:18:59 PMAlmost 10 days until the season starts again..

And there's still nobody through the door to get excited about

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Neutral Zone Ultra

Assuming Atalanta sell Lookman they shouldn't be short on cash, so we should be demanding north of £50m for Muniz.

StuinSalop

#4111
What we know is that to help make SCR, Raul, Adama and TC are out of contract.  That makes £200K a week, that on its own could do it, we would however need to replace but we could bring in low cost now or Jan and effectively trial this season.

Highest earner Leno on £120K a week, we could look to replace but doubt it.

Selling Robinson and Muniz probably gets us £100 Million.

Probably plenty of other options, it's just a question of playing the cards correctly.

What we can't do is commit to high earning long term contracts for players we don't know.

Conclusion, we are looking to bring in what we know....Nelson plus some low cost potential 1st team players like Lecomte.   Can we find more Robinsons, Tetes and Lenos? Who cost very little but have delivered hugely.

King is like a new £20M plus signing who in a few years time could be worth ridiculous money.

It's not all lost by any means, we have a solid squad now, but it requires careful management and good decision making.


Drewry66

Quote from: Angus Telford on August 05, 2025, 01:27:50 AM
Quote from: Drewry66 on August 05, 2025, 12:35:23 AMAlmost all clubs already voted in favour of bringing SCR in so you'd imagine they are certainly expecting it may well happen.

Agree with much of what you've said, but this is a bit of an oversimplification, isn't it?

They voted in favour of trialling it last year on a non-binding basis - that trial then happened.

Then when it came to actually implementing it, they voted to put that off for at least another year (19-1 according to Twitter although I haven't been able to verify that).

Yeah quite possibly. Honestly who knows but something weird seems to be going on at FFC unless we have a random splurge late on with signings out of the blue. Possible with us of course. Let's see what happens and pray for better news soon.

Neutral Zone Ultra

Quote from: StuinSalop on August 05, 2025, 08:35:00 AMWhat we know is that to help make SCR, Raul, Adama and TC are out of contract.  That makes £200K a week, that on its own could do it, we would however need to replace but we could bring in low cost now or Jan and effectively trial this season.

Highest earner Leno on £120K a week, we could look to replace but doubt it.

Selling Robinson and Muniz probably gets us £100 Million.

Probably plenty of other options, it's just a question of playing the cards correctly.

What we can't do is commit to high earning long term contracts for players we don't know.

Conclusion, we are looking to bring in what we know....Nelson plus some low cost potential 1st team players like Lecomte.   Can we find more Robinsons, Tetes and Lenos? Who cost very little but have delivered hugely.

King is like a new £20M plus signing who in a few years time could be worth ridiculous money.

It's not all lost by any means, we have a solid squad now, but it required careful management and good decision making.

I don't think Robinson and Muniz would get us £100m. Muniz £50m tops (apparently Flamengo have a 20% sell on clause), Robinson is too old now to sell for anything above £25-30m.

Agree with your other points though, key thing is shifting Jimenez, Cairney, Reed and potentially Leno off the wage bill in the next year.

Hugh Janus

Quote from: StuinSalop on August 05, 2025, 08:35:00 AMWhat we know is that to help make SCR, Raul, Adama and TC are out of contract.  That makes £200K a week, that on its own could do it, we would however need to replace but we could bring in low cost now or Jan and effectively trial this season.

Highest earner Leno on £120K a week, we could look to replace but doubt it.

Selling Robinson and Muniz probably gets us £100 Million.

Probably plenty of other options, it's just a question of playing the cards correctly.

What we can't do is commit to high earning long term contracts for players we don't know.

Conclusion, we are looking to bring in what we know....Nelson plus some low cost potential 1st team players like Lecomte.   Can we find more Robinsons, Tetes and Lenos? Who cost very little but have delivered hugely.

King is like a new £20M plus signing who in a few years time could be worth ridiculous money.

It's not all lost by any means, we have a solid squad now, but it required careful management and good decision making.


Robinson and Muniz fetching £100m is optimistic given the former's age. There's no way Muniz fetches more than £30m without a 15 goal season.

Certainly potential with King but right now it is just that.


YoungsBitter

Quote from: Angus Telford on August 05, 2025, 12:00:32 AMRe. SCR, going to stick my neck out and say taking into account the potential for further delays/appeals in the Man City case, a potential challenge from the PFA, and the requirement for a majority of clubs to vote in favour of implementation, the actual likelihood of SCR ever actually coming into effect must be about 50:50.

I reckon the chances of it coming immediately into full force, on a non-phased basis with no transitional arrangements,  as soon as 26/27, must be < 10%.

Will be very cynical and disappointed if this becomes our excuse for another tight-fisted window.
I think there is an awful lot of guesswork and supposition purely due to frustration at the lack of completed signings. We have even turned ourselves in knots to come up with our own theory as to why, the bogeyman SCR.
As Angus says, likelihood of this hard and fast and enforced next season is slim and so back to what is happening. As much as it's frustrating for all of us this summer is tough for anyone without the massive income of Champions League and big stadiums/fan bases - look at Newcastle and Villa, even they are struggling.
We assume the club is asleep at the wheel yet we know Silva is a very driven man and the incentives for the club to sign well and fully understood.
They are working hard to thread the needle of players who Marco wants at a price and wage structure that fits. It takes time so patience is needed.
Quark, strangeness and charm

General

I think it's less SCR tbh.. Marco has intimated the desire and need to make signings. If I remember correctly from January though we've got a squad where it's more about quality than quantity, and in order to get that quality it looks like the market is just perhaps harder... I suppose that'll largely depend on how high a quality we're going for.

Sterling would be a high quality addition. KDH?.. Kind of.. Nelson, we know his quality, but agree with trying another loan to see if he survives a season injury-free.

Chukwueze - unsure of. For a forward he doesn't have the most impressive stats.

And then whoever else is going on behind the scenes in terms of approaches/interest etc.

We've seemingly been interested in Palhinha and not got him.. Everton have had a bid for KDH, but that doesn't mean much unless the player decides to go, and if we're in the running still then?


FFC1987

Have to agree with the sentiment that we're turning SCR into potentially something its not. People may well be right, and our severe lack of investment the last few windows, as a way to gear up for this, but I'm sceptical. The discord is rife with it as well and it feels like posters are threading a narrative to rationalise lack of early signings.

Again, not saying anyone is wrong, but I'll just wait and make this sort of judgement by the end of the window. Silva has always said its not about bodies, its about the right bodies and I'm still convinced this is, at least part of why we haven't signed anyone yet. Some of the comments whenever a player we were 'linked' with, are going elsewhere, is a tad bizarre as well. Are posters really wishing we'd lump £30+ into say Dewsbury Hall? Or are we just desperate for a signing and some excitement..


Pavel Dempsey

Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on August 05, 2025, 08:27:53 AMAssuming Atalanta sell Lookman they shouldn't be short on cash, so we should be demanding north of £50m for Muniz.

They sold Mateo Retegui for €65 million two weeks ago.

Neutral Zone Ultra

Quote from: FFC1987 on August 05, 2025, 09:39:00 AMHave to agree with the sentiment that we're turning SCR into potentially something its not. People may well be right, and our severe lack of investment the last few windows, as a way to gear up for this, but I'm sceptical. The discord is rife with it as well and it feels like posters are threading a narrative to rationalise lack of early signings.

Again, not saying anyone is wrong, but I'll just wait and make this sort of judgement by the end of the window. Silva has always said its not about bodies, its about the right bodies and I'm still convinced this is, at least part of why we haven't signed anyone yet. Some of the comments whenever a player we were 'linked' with, are going elsewhere, is a tad bizarre as well. Are posters really wishing we'd lump £30+ into say Dewsbury Hall? Or are we just desperate for a signing and some excitement..
For the record on Dewsbury-Hall, I can't say I was that thrilled by him as a player, it was more the principle of we were interested in him, had interest for a while, then Everton come in and get the deal wrapped up in a matter of days. Our transfer business just doesn't feel as proactive as our rivals right now.